F1 2024 - Odd Safety Car Crash in Monza - CLOSER LOOK

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@andrewd8026
@andrewd8026 4 ай бұрын
This is very helpful. I was on the fence about buying an Aston Martin safety car but this persuaded me to hold off
@wjspade
@wjspade 4 ай бұрын
😂
@zeus.edwards2662
@zeus.edwards2662 4 ай бұрын
lol
@991.2gt3
@991.2gt3 4 ай бұрын
😅
@K-SHABAB
@K-SHABAB 4 ай бұрын
same bro but after watching this i will continue on my MTB😂
@garyrowe58
@garyrowe58 4 ай бұрын
But he brought to the fence ...
@rarejavelin6547
@rarejavelin6547 4 ай бұрын
Maylander is the goat. Safety car became unsafe, he still crashed it in the safest way possible. Goat behaviour
@Jelo_0-99
@Jelo_0-99 4 ай бұрын
Shows his skill and experience
@Hungary_0987
@Hungary_0987 4 ай бұрын
Ong, all hail lord mäylander
@thinkfast469
@thinkfast469 4 ай бұрын
💯
@JRock3091
@JRock3091 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@josem.unzueta1452
@josem.unzueta1452 4 ай бұрын
Man they say there is no bad publicity but between the complaints of the aston martin being slow and this brake failure its making aston martin look pretty bad
@4rdF1Hunny
@4rdF1Hunny 4 ай бұрын
The old one was slow vs this. Also much less expensive than the Merc.
@Toro_Da_Corsa
@Toro_Da_Corsa 4 ай бұрын
Thats nonsense. Aston doesn't have the same model range that Mercedes does. Its cars are luxury touring. They don't have a sportscar that compares to the Mercedes safety car.
@trance9158
@trance9158 4 ай бұрын
Well... It is a British car... They're known for their shortcomings
@ilionreactor1079
@ilionreactor1079 4 ай бұрын
"look pretty bad" Yeah, they have Lance Stroll for that!
@SVPSkins
@SVPSkins 4 ай бұрын
first failure in the time Aston have had there cars as a safety car and you need to go a million mile an hour to enjoy it. Aston Martins road cars are mostly sport tourers not racing cars.
@bruhnomento7079
@bruhnomento7079 4 ай бұрын
awesome video, I had never learned how exactly an ABS system works, very informative as always!
@ehsnils
@ehsnils 4 ай бұрын
Since the car had been on the track for a while I wouldn't rule out brake fading due to overheating. The front wheel position in the picture prevents the view of the front brakes.
@eleycki
@eleycki 4 ай бұрын
It has carbon brakes, so fade isn’t a thing.
@sven679
@sven679 4 ай бұрын
​@@eleycki Carbon ceramics can fade too, lol. If they couldn't fade every F1 car would use them and be like "forget cooling"
@eleycki
@eleycki 4 ай бұрын
@@sven679 lol the AM has open discs, so they aren’t cooling limited. This car isn’t aero-fixated remember.
@sven679
@sven679 4 ай бұрын
@@eleycki Just because you can see the brakes in the rims doesn't mean they have good cooling.
@eleycki
@eleycki 4 ай бұрын
@@sven679 agreed; but they do though.
@nelsonclub7722
@nelsonclub7722 4 ай бұрын
Christian Horner: "We are lodging a complaint as the Aston has an illegal floor....!!!!"
@colinbrassington3192
@colinbrassington3192 4 ай бұрын
My assumption is a front abs sensor had failed. Logic being if the sensor doesn’t see the wheel turning it will bleed pressure away from that calliper. Glad to see Meylander ok after the shunt
@VegetaWinning
@VegetaWinning 4 ай бұрын
If an abs sensor fails the abs unit will disables itself so you still have full ability to brake just with the risk of locking up since there's no abs
@gafrers
@gafrers 4 ай бұрын
Nice analysis once again
@Catalina._
@Catalina._ 4 ай бұрын
Aston should use their Valkyrie instead 😍
@SellingLAandMiami
@SellingLAandMiami 4 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. It could lap Williams while it’s out there as well
@theairaccumulator7144
@theairaccumulator7144 4 ай бұрын
Too expensive to haul around a track like that. $100k vs several million.
@18nmc
@18nmc 4 ай бұрын
The Valkyrie is not that practical considering there is a lot of equipment needed onboard the safety car. The Valkyrie is also a lot more expensive.
@philsreef746
@philsreef746 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely and it’ll be better than their current F1 car.
@willhurst
@willhurst 4 ай бұрын
They want to use a car they can sell a lot of.
@AboveInShadow
@AboveInShadow 4 ай бұрын
The driver did a Scandinavian flick to reduce speed as much as possible.
@elDriv3r
@elDriv3r 4 ай бұрын
Hi Martin, ich denke dass starkes Fading (also ein Sieden der Bremsflüssigkeit) im Vorderachs-Kreis eine mögliche Erklärung ist. Während der Gerade vor der Parabolica war das System relativ lange ohne Bremsdruck was das Sieden ermöglichte. Das würde auch erklären warum er hinten noch bremste aber vorne nicht. Wie auch schon geschrieben, ist es die Tage in der Gegend echt heiss, was sicherlich dazu beigetragen haben könnte. 🤔
@BSport320
@BSport320 4 ай бұрын
Hi, das kann zwar sein, allerdings haette es sich in den Kurven davor schon angekuendigt und waere nicht so ploetzlich ausgefallen.
@elDriv3r
@elDriv3r 4 ай бұрын
@@BSport320 ja, oke auch möglich - mal sehen was von offizieller Seite als Stellungnahme/Erklärung kommt - wenn übehaupt 😅
@philsreef746
@philsreef746 4 ай бұрын
It’s obvious what happened. Baby Stroll nicked the safety car and binned it and then blamed it on Magnussen.
@chrisbackhouse5730
@chrisbackhouse5730 4 ай бұрын
The new corporate mantra, "quantity over quality"
@RebeccaCampbell1969
@RebeccaCampbell1969 4 ай бұрын
3:20 instead of controlling pressure differential between front and rear, which would be the best engineering option… adjusting rotor size and pads compound, larger and softer in front in that order If front is lacking pressure, one can adjust what the current pressure does instead of overhauling the whole system. Done that with my old Birel gokart chassis, and also my old Mazdaspeed 3… a “don’t rise the bridge, lower the river” approach to ever problem
@cademckee7276
@cademckee7276 4 ай бұрын
This is a bad approach. Because now your brake bias is fixed and can’t be easily adjust or changed as you can do with just varying brake pressure. There is a reason almost every race car in the world has brake bias adjustment done with pressure rather than trying to get to the maximum of pads and rotors and caliper size. Not to mention a brake proportioning valve is often much cheaper than a whole new set of pads rotors and calipers
@ivancamacho7668
@ivancamacho7668 4 ай бұрын
Good explanation of the abs and the possible cause of the crash. Thanks.
@nigeldepledge3790
@nigeldepledge3790 4 ай бұрын
If this incident triggered a "safety car", how did they deal with that . . . ?
@JRock3091
@JRock3091 3 ай бұрын
They have a backup car
@munyaradzimurapa6738
@munyaradzimurapa6738 3 ай бұрын
They will cancel the world championship
@nigelkelley3004
@nigelkelley3004 Ай бұрын
It looked to me like he tried to induce a drift but was going way too fast. The rear brakes were glowing but the fronts weren’t visible so it was an assumption they weren’t working. The rear brakes were working and the brakes lights were on but once spinning they were released as demonstrated by the wheels rotating.
@feisaljauharitufail
@feisaljauharitufail 4 ай бұрын
Imagine stroll driving this.
@philsreef746
@philsreef746 4 ай бұрын
Rumour has it he was.
@Krmpfpks
@Krmpfpks 4 ай бұрын
I remember Mayländer drove a safety car over a manhole cover during a DTM race, causing him to get airborne (a little). Or maybe he caused it to lift up and a car behind him drove over it? Don’t remember, definitely not his fault, but I would still count it as a crash. After that they did weld them shut for every race. He is a super nice guy though, met him once while I had no clue who he was. We were eating at the same table and he shared stories of his horrible flight to the race track.
@neilgordon8145
@neilgordon8145 4 ай бұрын
Safety car used to be a Jag driven by Silverstone Syd at the British GPs. Good Old Days.
@timwhiskerd2133
@timwhiskerd2133 4 ай бұрын
I would be very surprised if the fault was the Bosch ABS unit. They are fitted to millions of road vehicles without problems.
@muratti72muc
@muratti72muc 4 ай бұрын
Of course, this could be one of many possibilities that the Bosch ABS was broken. However, it is usually not the individual parts that are faulty, but rather the interaction of the many individual parts. It is often enough that, for example, a hose is 1mm too thin or thick between two individual parts. Aston Martin buys almost all of the individual parts from other manufacturers. Now you just have to look at what wrong items you have installed. Everything has to be coordinated correctly and with new car models you often have small errors.
@Kpaxlol
@Kpaxlol 4 ай бұрын
Why isn't the safety car just a racing car? Like a gt4 or gt3 with more interior stuff.
@muratti72muc
@muratti72muc 4 ай бұрын
because the cars are used for advertising purposes. You can buy them almost exactly as they are used here as a safety car. Both Aston Martin and Mercedes AMG also have these cars as GT3 and GT4 racing cars, but the racing cars are no longer permitted for road traffic.
@Toro_Da_Corsa
@Toro_Da_Corsa 4 ай бұрын
Brake fluid heating. It was a hot day. The car was doing laps and the fluid just got too hot. Track days with that much heat plus the heavily upgraded engine probably wasn't fully tested for this.
@Boomer850
@Boomer850 4 ай бұрын
I’m am pretty sure they have high temp brake fluid. And typically if brake fuild does overheat or go past its designed temperature, it results in more pedal effort, with fade across all wheels not a sudden failure of one wheel.
@josemorenoporras7506
@josemorenoporras7506 4 ай бұрын
If you do not bleed the brakes properly you can get air in the worst moment and come to the wall like this car did. I bet they got pedal to the floor suddenly and only rear brakes,that´s why they did not stop in time.
@Albertros-db5sg
@Albertros-db5sg 4 ай бұрын
@@josemorenoporras7506If the Pedal is on the floor, you dont have enough power to make the braves glow. Because of the brake Distribution if there is no other problem the front brakes would get more power and glow not the rear ones. So it seems the front brakes stopped working completly and suddenly.
@NikoKyunKyun
@NikoKyunKyun 4 ай бұрын
and the added weight from being a safety car
@fabianrudzewski9027
@fabianrudzewski9027 4 ай бұрын
​​@@Boomer850 Fade isnt really a consequence of overheated Fluid. Fade normally refers to hot pads and discs reducing their coefficient of friction, so you need more brakepressure to achieve the same deceleration. That's a slow and gradual process over multiple brake zones, giving you plenty time to dial back the speed. The fluid is mostly completely fine at that point. Fluid overheating causes boiling and the Pedal falls to the Floor the next time you touch it. That's a sudden and total loss of brake power right when you need it the most: at the start of the braking zone.
@CDeuce152
@CDeuce152 4 ай бұрын
ABS failure is what happened in my accident, so it reverted to non-ABS/conventional brakes.
@karenclemens3985
@karenclemens3985 4 ай бұрын
Added tech on dash covering parking brake warning light!
@Eden-NoEye
@Eden-NoEye 4 ай бұрын
I like that they have 2 spare safety cars.
@broughxtreme
@broughxtreme 4 ай бұрын
If the rear brakes were THAT HOT, imagine how hot the front ones were. Bet it was just a case of boiling brake fluid in the front brakes. To those who don't know much about brakes, once a fluid (like water even) boils it instantly turns to a gas.....tyre barrier.
@fabianrudzewski9027
@fabianrudzewski9027 4 ай бұрын
With carbon ceramic brakes, glowing is normal. They are meant to do so. On some cars, the front rotors light up almost like a halogen bulb.
@fastone371
@fastone371 4 ай бұрын
@@fabianrudzewski9027 Same with cast iron rotors. An oval track near us runs asphalt Super Late Models with brake restriction rules, they use 4 piston calipers with cast rotors, their rotors are always orange, lap after lap and boiling brake fluid is typically not a problem with DOT 4 fluid.
@BrianMorrison
@BrianMorrison 4 ай бұрын
Boiling brake fluid is relatively rare these days, it is usually caused by water being absorbed from the atmosphere, the fluid is hygroscopic.
@broughxtreme
@broughxtreme 4 ай бұрын
@@fabianrudzewski9027 Point taken, but all that heat still has to go somewere.
@broughxtreme
@broughxtreme 4 ай бұрын
@@fastone371 Yeh I'm into ovel track here in NZ, those rear rotors can almost be white on the sprintcars sometimes. Lets wait for the report.
@broughxtreme
@broughxtreme 4 ай бұрын
Further to my first comment. As he travelled down the straight towards the next corner the heat generated from his previous heavy braking event was still disipating into the fluid (the fluid started to boil while he was on the straight). Get to the next corner, nothing there.................tyre barrier. Great driving to toss it into the corner.
@streetpilot775
@streetpilot775 4 ай бұрын
Could have been something as simple as a tired mechanic leaving a bleed valve open while performing a last-minute bleed of the brakes. It happened to us. Car ended up in the barrier but luckily the driver was okay
@FrancSchiphorst
@FrancSchiphorst 4 ай бұрын
Car would have had shit brakes from the get go and Bernd would have noticed well before that point.
@streetpilot775
@streetpilot775 3 ай бұрын
@@FrancSchiphorst It depends on the size of the leak. As in our case it was so gradual that he had decent pedal... until he didnt
@nickporter574
@nickporter574 4 ай бұрын
Just make the safety car a GT500 from Super GT.
@SavingTheUndesireables
@SavingTheUndesireables 4 ай бұрын
Or let him drive one of his old dtm cars again
@literallyhuman5990
@literallyhuman5990 4 ай бұрын
Ah yes, lmp1 that looks like normal cars
@phildem414
@phildem414 4 ай бұрын
Maybe the rear brakes were lightly activated continuously, leading to overheating and loss of braking power, shifting the brake balance to the front as a consequence.
@RichardMcLaren
@RichardMcLaren 4 ай бұрын
Brake balance is front bias on everything, always
@Javadamutt
@Javadamutt 4 ай бұрын
The problem both safety cars have is cornering ability. They lack grip even conpared to a low speed F1 car meaning breaking, turning and accerating is pretty much requiring a driver to be pushing to the limit just to keep a decent pace. A lot of the complaints havent veen so much about top speed or acceleration but just how much slower the aston was compared to the mercades in the corners.
@NBSV1
@NBSV1 4 ай бұрын
What’s the point of a safety car if it’s going to be running laps at full pace? The speed of the safety car is supposed to be slow to provide safety. Funny how that works. Race car drivers are going to whine and cry no matter what. If left to them there’d be no safety cars and they’d just run the race flat out the whole time.
@Javadamutt
@Javadamutt 4 ай бұрын
@@NBSV1 It was seen during Bianchi's crash that in order for the tyres, brakes and aero to work, the cars need to generate enough speed. To keep heat in the tyres and brakes they need to speed up and slow down. They also need to be going fast enough to get air into the engine and over the radiators. Ironically the juxtaposition is that an F1 car operates better at speed and operates properly. Tyres are the biggest issue, too cold they don't grip, too slow they can't generate heat or remove water from the track. Yes it feels stupid having a car near it's limit to buy time to allow people onto the track to solve the issue and in the dry it's fine. In the wet tho it is more of a problem. Could the safety car set much faster laps, absolutely. It could use more of the track possibly still brake harder and accelerate harder but it is limited by the tyres and still driving "safely" within itself. However that isn't a Sunday drive, it is still pushing quite hard for what the safety car is capable of
@NBSV1
@NBSV1 4 ай бұрын
@@Javadamutt Are the conditions behind the safety car not the same for everyone? It isn’t like they singled out a driver and made him not warm his tires properly while the others got hot tires. The safety car is there to slow the field down. Granted the safety car at its limit is way slower than an F1 car can go. That also doesn’t mean it’s a reasonably safe speed for the track workers or whatever conditions brought out the safety car. These are supposed to be the best drivers in the world. A slow safety car isn’t anything new. They should be able to deal with it.
@Javadamutt
@Javadamutt 4 ай бұрын
@@NBSV1 Not sure what point you are trying to make here. Always has been the case that the drivers "have to deal with it". I never argued otherwise. I also never said they singled out a driver either. All I pointed out was the mechanics of the situation that a safety car is driving pretty much at max to keep pace while the drivers behind are struggling with it and in some cases the slow speed does create more danger due to how F1 cars and importantly tyres work. I assume you are the type of person who argues that "they know the risks" when it comes to any safety improvements? Surely by your logic they're the best drivers in the world a safety car shouldn't be needed as they wouldn't crash in the first place? Saying they're the best drivers in the world is logical fallacy, at the end of the day they're still bound by the laws of physics and what they're allowed to do behind the safety car.
@NBSV1
@NBSV1 4 ай бұрын
@@Javadamutt The point is the safety car is going to be slow for safety reasons. Doesn’t matter that the drivers are going to complain since they’ll do that anyway. Also doesn’t matter how fast the safety car is all out since it isn’t running laps all out. Having it go fast enough to keep F1 tires up to temp would basically mean them running a race pace. Which doesn’t exactly make it safe for workers to be out there. The best drivers should be able to work with the conditions. Which is why trying to blame someone’s crash on a slow safety car is silly. Everybody had the same cold tires and not everybody wrecked.
@whoeveriam0iam14222
@whoeveriam0iam14222 4 ай бұрын
that's a really cool looking Safety Car for both Aston and Mercedes
@PhilClaytonPhotography1
@PhilClaytonPhotography1 3 ай бұрын
The Boeing 737 max of safety cars!
@tbolt5883
@tbolt5883 4 ай бұрын
Isn't there any testing of a new safety car before the race and at every track ?
@PVPaco
@PVPaco 4 ай бұрын
As professional driver I want to share my opinion: We are familiar with the career of Bernd Mayländer, perhaps one of the most experienced drivers in the world-not necessarily the fastest, but his experience is undeniable. We all know that sometimes he likes to play with the car and even performs drifts on occasion, but this time it's different. I took the time to review several of his drifts, and it's clear that he never initiates them with the famous Scandinavian flick (commonly used in rallying to unsettle the car and start a drift). Since he drives a rear-wheel-drive car with a lot of power (either the AMG or the ASTON engine), he usually initiates a drift by accelerating a bit more aggressively than normal during a turn to lose control of the car in a controlled way. That's how he performs drifts, but never with the Scandinavian flick, which is mainly used in all-wheel-drive vehicles. So, what happened? Clearly, the car comes at high speed after the straight, but there is no noticeable reduction in speed or even a dip of the car's front end, which is common when braking before a turn. In the last instant, you can clearly see him deciding to use an unorthodox braking method-drifting the car. That's why we see a slight left turn to then unsettle the car by whipping the rear end and starting a drift (using a Scandinavian flick, never before used by him in rear-wheel-drive vehicles). Unfortunately, the high speed didn't allow him to make it through the turn, and the vehicle began to lose the rear axle, initiating a total loss of control as the car rotated in an uncontrollable oversteer. At this point, any professional driver, especially one with his experience, would apply full brakes to try to reduce speed as much as possible and minimize the imminent damage. This can be confirmed by watching the rear of his car in the video and clearly seeing the brake lights on. But at that same moment, you can see the tires rotating and not receiving the braking pressure that would limit their rotation. This would be especially noticeable on gravel, as even with low braking pressure, the car would have locked the tires while sliding over the gravel. Thanks to the car's safety features and the TechPro barriers, the driver and his passenger escaped with almost no injuries. Now we just have to wait for the car's investigation to find out what happened-if Aston Martin doesn't interfere to prevent any admission of a potential failure in their car.
@millennialpoes5674
@millennialpoes5674 4 ай бұрын
Are you high
@KBowWow75
@KBowWow75 4 ай бұрын
No safety car races in 7 races now. He hasn't gotten practice enough.
@captaintoyota3171
@captaintoyota3171 4 ай бұрын
This is why i drive 1990s cars. Cables connected to everything, no abs just hydraulic fluid from toe to pad.. leave it to Bumgardner to crash safely as possible
@jimmanis6717
@jimmanis6717 4 ай бұрын
I agree, If I crash I want it to be my fault not a tiny bit of road grid fouling a sensor or wiring connector.
@fitzdiggers-562
@fitzdiggers-562 3 ай бұрын
ABS was introduced in 1978 and was in most cars by the early to mid-'80s.
@zlm001
@zlm001 4 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@Joseph-vj2ph
@Joseph-vj2ph 4 ай бұрын
I want the AMG.
@RAKITHA9
@RAKITHA9 4 ай бұрын
Sergio : that’s my kind of car
@zXPeterz14
@zXPeterz14 4 ай бұрын
If you look closely you can see that its Logan Sargent behind the wheel 😮
@MehrdadF1simracing-999
@MehrdadF1simracing-999 4 ай бұрын
Yes
@Andrew-vx2ls
@Andrew-vx2ls 4 ай бұрын
Hi Martin, I would have thought that the ABS valves are inside the machined aluminium casing (but this is probably what you meant?). Could we have a B Sport video with relation symmetric braking (which I personally think should be allowed). Last weekend at Silverstone Festival, the "Safety Car" for the historic racing (an RML SWB 250 GT "replicamod") also embarrassingly spun and crashed in the wet...The blame was also placed on "brake balance". This was another case of a modern car being shown off. In this case it was struggling in front of a field of Formula Juniors (ie 100 to 1100 cc .formula cars on skinny tyres from 1959-1963 - none of which "fell off" despite the puddles! I did not see the incident but this type of incident does not seem that unusual. Safety Cars in Historic Racing are invariably driven at ridiculously slow speeds causing cars to bunch up causing accidents, some of which can be rather nasty (Cf; Spa 6 Hour race 2006 on the Kemmel straight just after the Raidillon).
@mikezappa
@mikezappa 4 ай бұрын
will the road version of this car have a recall?
@nicolashuffman4312
@nicolashuffman4312 4 ай бұрын
As complexity approaches infinity, mean time before failure approaches zero. Perhaps auto manufacturers should simplify their cars. Sure you can do some amazing things with the gizmos, but how many cars turn to garbage at 80,000 miles because their fancy electronics start failing? Some manufacturers were known to make cars that were happy to go 300k miles, but their new ones are toast at 100k.
@howarddavies136
@howarddavies136 4 ай бұрын
I reckon jt was a failure rhat prevented the system being pressuries by the brake pedal and he was able to use the parking brake to engage the rears. An electronic parking brake will also act as an emergancy brake if pulled whilst moving and depending on the laayout in the Aston, it could have still engaged the rears even in the event of a larger failure.
@twu1915
@twu1915 3 ай бұрын
You think activation of the parking brake would result in glowing discs? I think it would just prevent the rear wheels from spinning immediately without glowing discs. Plus, I think the car would have spinned much faster than it did.
@howarddavies136
@howarddavies136 3 ай бұрын
@twu1915 the parking brake could lock the wheels, so why would it not have enough clamping force to make the discs glow?
@howarddavies136
@howarddavies136 3 ай бұрын
Also, the e brake is designed to not lock the wheels as far as I'm aware. It's not like an old cable brake.
@twu1915
@twu1915 3 ай бұрын
@@howarddavies136 If I use my electronic parking brake the rear wheels lock immediately. But I am neither driving an AM nor an electric car. But I think IF the parking brake locks the rear wheels, they wouldn't glow, why should they? No turning wheels, no turning discs, no friction, no glowing.
@howarddavies136
@howarddavies136 3 ай бұрын
@@twu1915 you're missing the point. Just because the parking brake has the power to lock dthe wheels, doesn't mean it would. Bear in mind the rotational energy of the wheels at that speed...
@dcxplant
@dcxplant 3 ай бұрын
Just because daddy bought you an F1 team doesn't mean you get to drive the Aston safety car. Give the keys back.
@masiosareanivdelarev562
@masiosareanivdelarev562 4 ай бұрын
Interesting video.
@jameswong7061
@jameswong7061 4 ай бұрын
i think newey will reconsider with AM😁
@rotorblade9508
@rotorblade9508 4 ай бұрын
I guess it has more to do with the abs manufacturer not Aston Martin
@L.L
@L.L 4 ай бұрын
“OPTIMISE BREAK “ 😅
@_IMNNO
@_IMNNO 4 ай бұрын
It’s similar to the issue that a McLaren Senna has with ESC and VDC.
@dw1784
@dw1784 3 ай бұрын
Do I have dementia? I watched the Monza race, and I don't remember this at all. Was it in F2?
@kempo_95
@kempo_95 Ай бұрын
It was on the Thursday before the weekend.
@entangled31415
@entangled31415 4 ай бұрын
The spaghetti balast of the car was wrongly estimated IMO.
@JefferyHall-ct2tr
@JefferyHall-ct2tr 4 ай бұрын
It kind of surprises me that they even have ABS on these cars. Most Safety/Pace Car drivers are former racing drivers, anyway. I would think the preference would be NO ABS.
@SVPSkins
@SVPSkins 4 ай бұрын
You do know what the ABS does?
@iareanoob2277
@iareanoob2277 4 ай бұрын
@@SVPSkinswe all do, but there are pro drivers who prefer to disable abs as they would like full control of their car
@fatalbullethit
@fatalbullethit 4 ай бұрын
Not having ABS in a GT style car is an exception, not the norm. Race grade ABS and TC are significantly more capable than we humans are, making the cars more stable and drivable, not just for AM drivers (who often pay for their seats and are less experienced) but also PRO drivers. Crashing a race car is expensive and you don't want any of your drivers to have a moment 5 hours into a 6 hour endurance race that could've easily been avoided by having ABS or TC. There's often the misconception that using driving aids requires less skill, but I can ensure you that driving a GT style car with ABS and TC quickly and consistently is not an easy feat even for the most skilled drivers out there.
@JefferyHall-ct2tr
@JefferyHall-ct2tr 4 ай бұрын
@@SVPSkins Yes I am aware, but a brake failure is a brake failure, it was the skill of the driver that saved the car and himself from serious damage. On the race cars ABS sounds like a great deal, as you are travelling so fast that you can just stand on them and not lock up or lose control (hopefully).
@JefferyHall-ct2tr
@JefferyHall-ct2tr 4 ай бұрын
@@fatalbullethit Great points there, in racing, you are absolutely right, those cars are extremely expensive, moving so much faster than in the past the damage is exacerbated to a even more deadly degree. Thanks for sharing that.
@jorggamingcr409
@jorggamingcr409 4 ай бұрын
can these safety cars change the brake pressure/balance front or rear like in race cars? maybe accidentally or for drift show, the balance was extremely all the way to the rear brakes...
@egekarabacak4416
@egekarabacak4416 4 ай бұрын
From what I can find online they do not have adjustable brake bias because the braking system is still based on the road car bosch abs module. But even if they have adjustable bias it wont have a huge range like 90% rear 10% front or vice versa. I think this incident is caused by a mechanical failure that lead to front brakes not being engaged at all not a setting thats forgotten.
@gregrat6192
@gregrat6192 4 ай бұрын
Ashton , are the OIL LEAKS FREE.
@jimmymidson5393
@jimmymidson5393 4 ай бұрын
Could’ve pulled the handbrake
@FatSn8ke
@FatSn8ke 4 ай бұрын
No one buys an Aston Martin to go fast except 007. He didn’t ‘buy’ his car anyway so it doesn‘t count😂
@peterebel7899
@peterebel7899 4 ай бұрын
007 never needs a break!
@josephxanthopoulos
@josephxanthopoulos 4 ай бұрын
It's Bosh problem, not Aston Martin. I had this brake block back in 1993 RX7. its Horrify to know that you have ABS brakes and when you need it the brakes block............ you loose your trust on your car forever !!!!
@adogmcdizzle
@adogmcdizzle 3 ай бұрын
Is it an electro-mechanical system like Mercedes SBC?
@grahampalmer9337
@grahampalmer9337 4 ай бұрын
What do i think? I think if the MB AMG isn't too much more to buy that'll be where my money would go. Let Q & Bond keep their bloody Aston. 🤨
@paulhoulton638
@paulhoulton638 4 ай бұрын
It's interesting that you immediately blame the car let's not forget this track was completely resurfaced and all the braking zones had to be rediscovered as we were seeing in fp1.
@martinzuidema2249
@martinzuidema2249 4 ай бұрын
The real safety car is an armored car 😊
@MarkWeishaar-g4r
@MarkWeishaar-g4r 3 ай бұрын
I think this is yet another reason I have an AMG not an Aston. My cars faster and my brakes don't fail 🤷‍♂️🤔
@PrestigeChiro
@PrestigeChiro 4 ай бұрын
why not use an f1 type car as safety car so it handles better, goes faster and even at much slower speeds that the actual f 1 cars it can perform better overall?
@StanDPauke2210
@StanDPauke2210 4 ай бұрын
Because you just cant have an F1 car just sitting there most of the time, getting into it and drive off like in a street car in the matter of seconds when it is needed. Getting into an F1 car, starting it up and driving it out of the pit lane involves a whole bunch of people and procedures - and it takes a lot of time!
@PrestigeChiro
@PrestigeChiro 4 ай бұрын
@@StanDPauke2210 oh yah huh, duhhh. totally had a brain fart moment there and forgot all that. lol. good point
@jozsefizsak
@jozsefizsak 4 ай бұрын
Fascinating.
@unmotardalondres9211
@unmotardalondres9211 4 ай бұрын
Mat Armstrong next project car rebuild?
@levanoni
@levanoni 4 ай бұрын
Embarrasing problem to have since AM is launching a new car this month😬
@DS-pk4eh
@DS-pk4eh 4 ай бұрын
Would new Rimac Nevera R edition work better?
@karllangner1579
@karllangner1579 4 ай бұрын
This proofs that ABS braking is shitt!
@kivo3d541
@kivo3d541 4 ай бұрын
Really? I once had a go in an Audi where the ABS could be switched off and on for demo purposes. For any regular motorist it is a life saver.
@ricky4129
@ricky4129 4 ай бұрын
How does spinning provide more braking???
@BSport320
@BSport320 4 ай бұрын
When sliding sideways wheels stop rotating, rubbing over the surface, more air resistance, more resistance in the gravel
@Deontjie
@Deontjie 3 ай бұрын
Try to push a car sideways.
@Craft-oh7uv
@Craft-oh7uv 4 ай бұрын
Safety car crashed er bring out the safety car 🙄
@F14foreverF14
@F14foreverF14 4 ай бұрын
Should just stick to the awesome ////AMG-GT Same Maylander who raced the legendary 🤩 CLK-GTR ? Schneider & Ludwig had factory AMG's, he a Parsons customer CLK
@speedhunter7303
@speedhunter7303 4 ай бұрын
thats a very ‘dangerous’ car.
@erikhp35c95
@erikhp35c95 4 ай бұрын
GT are not designed for race tracks, except Porsche and some Pista, Mc Laren and a few exotic brands like XBOW. Aston’s are too heavy.
@TriLe-w8z
@TriLe-w8z 4 ай бұрын
“Safety car”
@anbu999
@anbu999 4 ай бұрын
must be the wine
@TheSpuxtm
@TheSpuxtm 4 ай бұрын
when safety car is not safety...🤣😅😂
@petemitchell6788
@petemitchell6788 4 ай бұрын
All guesses no actual facts. No need to ever watch a video from this channel ever again. 😎
@pd1648
@pd1648 4 ай бұрын
Aston over Mercedes every day - passion
@chrispearce9224
@chrispearce9224 4 ай бұрын
Yea driver lost control because the computer controls took it away.
@JohnHolden-k6f
@JohnHolden-k6f 4 ай бұрын
German driver British car, one way to destabilise sales of Aston and glorify that of Mercedes.
@Todd-o8n
@Todd-o8n 4 ай бұрын
James Bond went woke, and Aston Martin hasn't been the same since.😂
@imrehorvath129
@imrehorvath129 4 ай бұрын
Just leave the Mercedes as safety car in the future 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@GeometryEX-hp9zs
@GeometryEX-hp9zs 4 ай бұрын
Aston Martin's safety car is ugly. Mercedes' safety car is nice. But Mercedes' car is actually very heavy. It has understeer by design. But Mercedes never has problems with this. Aston Martin is not necessarily. They may not care about the maintenance work.
@midengineZ06
@midengineZ06 4 ай бұрын
bring back the AMG 🤣
@peterebel7899
@peterebel7899 4 ай бұрын
Don't irritate the Brits!
@ramosryan
@ramosryan 4 ай бұрын
I will never get this time back in my life. Thanks
@andieshepherd188
@andieshepherd188 4 ай бұрын
Safety car - not competitor. Reality check.
@ALXXR63AMG
@ALXXR63AMG 4 ай бұрын
Bring the Mercedes Safety Car 🙏Back it is safer !
@cgregistry
@cgregistry 3 ай бұрын
Beacuse The Safety Car Has A Brake Failure
@jrgenfriborg3508
@jrgenfriborg3508 4 ай бұрын
Moister in brakefluid. Ther by boil.
@JohnWiku
@JohnWiku 4 ай бұрын
That aston is a merc anyway 😂😂😂
@MikeCaffyn1
@MikeCaffyn1 4 ай бұрын
WHY DON'T THEY USE LE MANS CARS???
@RichardMcLaren
@RichardMcLaren 4 ай бұрын
The 'Scandinavian flick' shows what happened here. Bernd was gonna drift through the corner (as he very often does during his practice laps) and messed up. Also, the Aston isn't slow.....Race control dicate how fast the safety car laps to give marshals time to do what they need to do. The F1 drivers will often say that it's going too slowly, not that the Aston safety car IS slow. They say it when being the Merc, too.
@RS265cup
@RS265cup 4 ай бұрын
mechanics can always fail
@hugovalverde6682
@hugovalverde6682 4 ай бұрын
Aston Martin is a piece of S....
@C.I...
@C.I... 4 ай бұрын
If I was Bernd, I would specify my safety car to not have ABS in future.
@RebeccaCampbell1969
@RebeccaCampbell1969 4 ай бұрын
ABS is a crutch, a handicap only… better tire friction (compound) and brake pads would actually be better for the driver. The SC is not under any limiting rules like a race car is, as such the option would make the car faster than ABS with subpar systems, and quite better for a good “pedal pressure control” driver
@RebeccaCampbell1969
@RebeccaCampbell1969 4 ай бұрын
Question: any of you have driven in a race car at the track, or a good shifter gokart… or at least gone to a “track day”? The next question… any requirements from ABS needed at dry weather? When I was younger and raced every time my car slipped under braking, turning (under steer) or accelerating… it meant I made a mistake, even the ABS on my stage 3+ MS3 meant my lap was slower… and I hated it
@rdablock
@rdablock 4 ай бұрын
all GT3 race cars have ABS
@cademckee7276
@cademckee7276 4 ай бұрын
@@RebeccaCampbell1969How old was that ABS? Modern racing ABS is much much better than road ABS and better than any race car driver. Hence why you often used to see GT3 cars out brake GTE cars
@zuksontheline
@zuksontheline 4 ай бұрын
I think the sales are not going to look good
@kurtduff5907
@kurtduff5907 4 ай бұрын
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