BTD6 Hero Tier List

[@Hbomb]

Let me know what you think of the new editing! I have 2 different editors right now and I want to know what you guys think.

[@facelessperson]

i think i did a good job!

[@getbouncin5244]

Bit harsh with obyn

[@pancanmans4148]

very nice

[@Thaydarin]

Editing is fine, the tiers were off.. Especially with Obyn.

[@hola0759]

I think that obyn should be in C at least because makes easy maps chimps ez

[@johnny4554]

You forgot to mention that Quincy never let's anything get past his bow.

[@lightray107]

true

[@levanteluxegifting8430]

nothing gets past my bow meanwile random ddt: i am nothing

[@YceSzmiff]

except when he does

[@MellonMellow]

Thank😎

[@MellonMellow]

@@YceSzmiff nothing gets past my bowwww

[@alexteafm1766]

No shot obyn is in F tier, the obyn druid strategy is extremely strong and very easy to get down and it can clear all rounds from round 50 to 80 no problem whatsoever (without the avatar of wrath)

[@vermeer5944]

Yeah you did mah boi dirty

[@daledilll9290]

He can also see through obsticles, his attack targets, and his level 11 buff is amazing.

[@ozymandias1314]

Just use gwen cause she's way stronger.

[@cybel4820]

he rated churchil same as brickrell

[@versuzzero5335]

Obyn was overpowered when he was cheap enough to be placed as first tower in CHIMPS. Why is he in F tier?

[@NotOmni]

I don’t know if it’s honestly fair to put Obyn at F tier. A bit harsh if you ask me.

[@terrellparnell9888]

Obyn is kinda good but he only good around druid spam

[@marined5479]

@@terrellparnell9888 Obyn ninja alch sun god is also a super good strategy. Weird

[@veṅo7f]

imo Obyn is a great early-mid game tower

[@icetide9411]

I absolutely love Obyn, if you do bottom path druid spam his buffs increase their damage output a lot for cheap. The fast attack speed can make sustaining things like alch buffs on a group of poplusts expensive, so that permanent pierce is great. I was very surprised by the F tier.

[@sunbleachedangel]

Obyn is definitely not worse than freaking Quincy, #JusticeForObyn

[@fishareneat]

Quincy should be in "the best" because you cant lose with him because as we all know nothing gets past his bow

[@tja4379]

you obviously confuse qunicy with his son quincy, son of quincy. a common mistake

[@ahmadarafat8836]

@@tja4379 yes but he repeatedly says nothing gets passed his bow no matter if he is son quincy or quincy, so hes still the bestl.

[@actuallydeadfr]

Quincy: *Nothing gets past my bow!* *2 seconds later* *loses*

[@Dado_nastro]

Nothing gets past my bow Random D.D.T: I'm gonna ruin this monkey's whole carrier

[@tacotown4598]

@@Dado_nastro my mib: Touche

[@SkaG1997]

That Obyn placement was personal 💀

[@wigglytuffgaming]

Nah jit is on that zaza fs

[@davidthecommenter]

"BECAUSE OBYN KILLED MY GRANDMA, OKAY?!"

[@sefferman5829]

I don’t get it😭

[@alexandergrote9531]

F tier usually means unusable, which Obyn certanly is not.

[@jimkas3606]

I agree, F is ussually for heroes like ben in a chimps tier list or psi in a boss bloon tier list

[@hyper_d1113]

F tier means unusable or very niche, which Obyn certainly is.

[@badcatgames783]

Obyn is worse then most heroes, but he FOR SURE is better than Quincy (and Ezili, she is the worst hero afterall)

[@tacotown4598]

@@badcatgames783 1. ezili is very good hero, far better than gwen quincy obyn sauda and adora, she's just difficult to use for unskilled players 2. quincy has more valuable earlygame power on chimps because he can started with, making him viable on infernal and muddles. plus he actually does damage relavent to lategame, unlike obyn.

[@talesofthespiritwarriorand1106]

@@jimkas3606 Psi isn't f tier for bosses

[@africacorpse8010]

One reason why Geraldo doesn't have to be nerfed is that he is completely "hands-on". Sure, all heroes have abilities, but sometimes you can just set your monkeys up and relax. Geraldo's entire strength comes from his shop, so you need to be constantly on top of things to keep him rolling.

[@Rurike]

I think it does help that unlike other heros you have to keep investing money in Geraldo to get much out of him, though it is still a bit nuts what all he can accomplish on his own

[@jovandragas8734]

He may be hands on but if you do pay attention and use him effectively no hero comes close to his ease of use and versatility

[@zaahidramakdawala]

I actually couldn’t agree more this is the worst hero for someone who just plays with ease and doesn’t care for pro strats but if u play the game with strats and true game understanding and all the stats of each monkey he becomes a god. He is definitely OP but I also think he shouldn’t be nerfed because you have to play him so different every match to utilize him to his max making his very hands on and lots of paying attention to detail like exact rounds and what not.

[@chainsawplayin]

He has the best synergy with Tack Zone and Sky Shredder with the pickles alone. Add everything else and you're unstoppable.

[@JoelTheParrot]

Pretty sure he was confirmed to be getting nerfs and for good reason, even if you use him very casually he's insane.

[@gamingwithdrgoblin]

1:24 just letting you know, amphibious means both land and water, like pat. Brickell isn't amphibious:)

[@gamingwithdrgoblin]

@@splooge1428 sup

[@officialtruenoob]

just saying how did this comment have more likes than hbomb's comment

[@ChimmneyMan]

@@officialtruenoob Pinned youtuber comments are alot more ignored than you’d think

[@tamasnguyen1064]

🤓

[@ruileite4579]

@@tamasnguyen1064 "🤓" 🤓

[@aydenator27]

ezili is actually amazing for alternate bloons rounds, she has camo and lead popping power right away, so you dont have to worry about those. plus, theres way more regrows on ABR so her level 3 has some use. and at level 9 she can remove camo and fortified off of smaller bloons, which is helpful for the extra fortified ceramic there are in ABR. edit: i didnt mention, but i find putting her targetting to strong gets the best use out of her. her DOT is quite strong, so getting her to target the tough early bloons like pinks, whites, and zebras, will do a lot more damage. her splash damage will affect the weaker bloons surrounding them. and strong targetting makes her target moabs for mid - late game so she can properly use her very high moab DPS.

[@AshenPlayer]

Sauda or 1-0-1 ninja>Benjamin or even Geraldo since he has the potions I believe they are better in ABR since if you're going to use an early game hero that doesn't have much use mid game then I think it's kind of meh

[@aydenator27]

@@AshenPlayer ezili’s moab damage is very high. and she de-fortifies most of the ceramics from ~57-78. + moab hex is very good which you get around round 60. and sacrificial totem gives very nice buffs.

[@anoniem4634]

@@aydenator27 not to mention the fact that she boosts zombie bloons popping power and shes also able to activate elite defender/bomb blitz by placing her totem. Ezili is the PURRRRFECT hero for abr. (and yes im using cat ezili skin why do u ask)

[@kittenchopper4646]

I dunno she attacks really slowly

[@amphiapple7890]

people underlook her main attack, it's actually dealing over 60 damage per second to moabs, which is incredibly strong at just level 8, and it only gets stronger from there.

[@samanthabrooke2467]

Only thing i have to say is that I don't think Obyn deserved F-tier, he's the tower I have won most of my chimps maps on! He is definitely able to hold his ground pretty well, as well as helping with bananas, buffing magic monkeys, and slowing/blocking bloons with his trees. His trees literally EAT the DDT bloons

[@Strain117]

Said by one of the top CHIMPS players: B- Tier: Obyn - Relatively powerful against early bloon rounds but hampered by the fact that he can’t be afforded on r6. Main attack falls off in power lategame or even mid. - Brambles are decently powerful earlygame but are reliant on RNG for pre-placement. - Wall of trees holds very little RBE relative to the strength of other heroes level 10 abilities, but can be a crutch for r63, 76, 78, and stray bloon leaks, and can now be aimed, removing RNG. - Totems are pretty good lategame for slowing down waves, although not as potent as before. - His buffs to magic towers are outclassed by Gwen/Pat/Geraldo

[@tacotown4598]

@@Strain117 scaling is very different on the index list-b- is near bottom tier

[@saplingrowan]

Obyn is one of my favs!

[@aren-u4t]

@@saplingrowan obyn IS my favorite

[@JosiahCasiano]

quincy: Are you kidding me? Nothing gets past my bow! also quincy: misses a green bloon

[@Roquelaure2.0]

Your quite mistake because nothing gets past quincy bow he is easily the best hero in the game

[@kdxdeadman]

im so disappointed with the placement of obyn imo he is an easy s tier but maybe cuz he is my favourite hero but still the druid strat is so good you just can put him in f atleast give him a b specially considering his early game makes life very easy

[@cosmicbananas8084]

In battles he's pretty good my build in battles 2 is pure magic

[@Benji10109]

He does have a good early game, and for druid strats I do always go him, but outside of that he is just outclassed. However, I dont think there are any F tier heroes in the game, and Obyn should go bottom of C tier.

[@XxDannySniperZXxGOB]

its his opinion

[@XxDannySniperZXxGOB]

but in all due respect i strongly disagree with the obyn placement

[@armstrong9497]

@@Benji10109 boom general only strong strat is boom spam but outside of that he is outclass but he is S tier... I think there is some unfairness here

[@nieveangeletti1271]

At 1:22 the bullet point says Brickell is “Amphibious” but she’s actually Aquatic. The only amphibious tower is Pat (and the turtle agent from btd5 I guess) Edit: Oh! And technically the true sun god!

[@all-starsilver1835]

I'm surprised water temples still exist tbh. They look a little goofy XD

[@tacotown4598]

@@all-starsilver1835 I was also surprised to find out about them

[@kevinkharmandaryan6565]

I don’t think any hero should be in f tier. All heros have some use and synergy and obyn synergies with druids making chimps very easy on most maps

[@jamesknapp64]

Yeah, I have over 30 Black Borders. And Ive used a lot of different strats on CHIMPS (so far have used ETN, Quincy, Suada, Brickell, Pat, Gwen and Obynn). So Ive employed a bunch of various strats, and there are some that only way Ive beaten CHIMPS is Obyn+Druids. That should mean something

[@gistrobaguette7566]

@@jamesknapp64 No offense, but the obyn druid spam strat isnt even the best strat on any map. So the reason it was the only way for you to beat a map is likely just because you understand the druid strat and know how to use it, and dont know how to use an other strat yet. Which isnt a bad thing of course but i am confident that when you play the game for a longer period of time and get to know the other possible strats and hero combinations that you will understand why obyn is arguably the worst hero in the game right now :)

[@Revalopod]

@@jamesknapp64 obyn isn't even the best hero for druids. that would go to geraldo, and then gwyn.

[@guywholikesorialot1246]

@@jamesknapp64 I think people forget on certain maps, there’s no water… So Admiral Brickwell used on those maps is literally a worse hero because you have to spend monkey money or a power to literally get her. At least you can place Obyn and the others on all of the maps.

[@tacotown4598]

@@jamesknapp64 not really when it's completely outclassed

[@AlphaSeagull]

I feel like Adora's super underrated mostly because players use her wrong. I think A is a great spot for her overall, but the thing is, everyone always thinks you HAVE to sacrifice thousands of coins to level her up otherwise she'll be terrible, when that's really not the case. In fact I'd argue you shouldn't use her sacrifice at all until you're buffing Sun God with it. You can't just toss a Tier 5 tower's worth of money at a Hero and expect them to outperform that Tier 5 tower. Adora works best when focusing on her efficiency, synergizing with Ninja/Alch and letting that combo carry you until you farm enough money to pivot into a late-game defense. She might have a "weak" midgame and level slowly, but that's not the Achilles Heel people pretend it is. I think Sauda and Geraldo (technically) are the only heroes capable of surviving mid-game by themselves, every other Hero needs 5+ tower strategies to work in mid-game, but Adora needs 2 and suddenly she's underpowered? Doesn't make any sense.

[@tacotown4598]

Her lategame is weak, those 2 towers can survive mid game without her and spending 30k on your hero so they can be what is basically a mediocre dps option really isn’t very good. Plus no Camo or purple at any level.

[@tacotown4598]

People don’t “pretend” adora has a weak mid game, they know she doesn’t have one at all. She basically doesn’t get any significant power boost between lvl 10 and 20, making her extremely subpar outside of early. Plus farming isn’t available in chimps and if I wanted to farm outside of it I’d use Ben

[@jeremiahbriney4899]

​@Taco Town in chimps adora is bad. But in any other game mode for the most part including easier maps. Adora literally claps rounds by herself with ease.

[@freddywondercat1362]

Mf put our boy Greenfoot in F tier - and I couldn't disagree more. If any hero should go in F, I'd say maybe Churchill and that's only because he literally has no use compared to any other dps hero rn.

[@minthecat7829]

Ig you haven't use Churchill hah

[@gistrobaguette7566]

This man really put Churchill in F tier :(. Didnt play with him i guess

[@tacotown4598]

obyn was destroyed by the nerfs, he doesn't slow moabs by 60% anymore, get over it, this is not pre-16.0 anymore. obyn is bad and outclassed by other stratagies. he just doesn't have a real niche in the game's meta anymore

[@broken.137]

Obyn is like Benjamin, he is purely suport , so Obyn is basically obliged to use druids to do damage when Churchill is just a very,very good dps hero ( even capable of soloing round 100. )

[@tacotown4598]

@@broken.137 Plus obyn’s support isn’t even that good

[@FlareBlitzed]

The best pro of Quincy is that nothing gets past his bow.

[@gameboy3d943]

Pink bloons: I’m about to end this man’s whole career!

[@fog1.16]

@@gameboy3d943 straight lines.

[@Kris-ce1po]

@@fog1.16 good placement

[@Mrchocotart10]

The bloon named "nothing": *gasp* omg im so lucky!

[@njh123]

I feel like the buff to PoD for 50% pierce by ezili deserves a mention. It makes one of the most viable towers even much stronger, and PoD's main problem is bads and r97 for example, ezili's moab hex really works with it incredibly well.

[@amphiapple7890]

It’s not entirely 50%, the description isn’t accurate. Ezili does give a 50% pierce increase to moabs and BFBs (+10 and +25) but the undead bloon pierce is to a variable number between 2-11 pierce, so the +1 pierce ezili gives to those isn’t a 50% buff except for the weakest bloons.

[@tacotown4598]

plus her hex is busted when timed correctly

[@shaydenprime275]

Hex is only good for r100

[@njh123]

@@shaydenprime275 No, its great for 98, 97, 96, 94, 92 and its ok with ddt:s

[@tacotown4598]

@@shaydenprime275 nope. It can easily be chained from bloom to bloom racking up huge amounts of damage. It has, if I’m correct, 24 charges, and thus at max could one shot up to 24 zomg’s or bfbs if used correctly. Overall an extremely strong ability, nearly as good as etienne’ s ucav, just not as easy to use

[@Luna34186]

I know she's not actually bad (I just used her in Mesa chimps in fact) but Gwendolyn is so infuriating at times. She NEVER throws the cocktail of fire in the right spot. I needed insanely good timing to get her to throw it on the correct lane in many early game rounds which makes it so luck dependent how strong she is.

[@all-starsilver1835]

Ah yes. RNG and a game mode where a single life costs you the game don't exactly mix well :V

[@Scylaceus]

The RNG of the cocktail pisses me off, sometimes you need to pre-emptively use it on R40 to destroy the MOAB but then the RNG just cucks you which is a shame because shes one of my preferred heroes but being at the mercy of RNG isn't fun on a game like BTD6

[@cuongleuc2167]

Wait the minute, isn't ninjakiwi buff her cocktail to targeting on her current targeting options? I use her ability while there a target in her range, and she never misses that target except that a pink. Obyn got the same rework too and the only time they throw at random is when there are no target in their range. 🤔

[@Luna34186]

@@cuongleuc2167 that's basically correct. Which means you can sometimes avoid any rng with good timing. The problem is that: 1) that can be hard to do. For example try using it to beat the first wave of round 36. 2) it's usually very bad against moabs. If I were to do that on round 40, she would throw the fire near the back of the moab which means it completely misses the ceramics that pop out of it.

[@genieinthepot2455]

They're adding cleansing foam esque targeting to her next update!

[@alejandrovesely9961]

Quincy is actually pretty good in half cash because he covers all bases. He is cheap, has Moab damage, good range, fast leveling, level 10 is insane in grouped and close deaths because of full map range, has an okay lead popping if you target, level 3 is good with moabs like on round 40 where you can save by not buying a mauler, has camo, and is cheap yet again. As long as you get good balloon popping power and anti ddt defense he is an amazing hero.

[@Official_ViperYT]

Well yeah, makes since that he's good, after all, nothing gets past his bow

[@mat2468xk]

"I'm not his biggest fan, but I will do my best to not be biased." *Proceeds to put Striker Jones in S tier.*

[@1Lazarus]

That is the exact opposite of being biased

[@mat2468xk]

@@1Lazarus You could even say that he's so unbiased, that he circled back to being biased. In all seriousness, I kind of get why he said that. I usually say "not to be biased" if what I'll be saying might be divisive. But in his case, it was kind of unnecessary.

[@lazarus-d8k]

@@1Lazarusnever found someone w the same name as me

[@rhyswilliams328]

don't forget that Ezeli + bottom path wizard is a crazy combo with her level 11 giving undead bloons 50% more pierce

[@tacotown4598]

She is very strong, primarily because hex is busted. Insane ability, great synergies. Also, that lvl 11 ability only buffs the zombie BLOONS, not the zombie moabs of bfbs, which is where most of the damage on pod comes from

[@dinamosflams]

ikr?! Idk why the hate people have with ezili.she is easily the best hero for alternating bloons and used together with psy they can basicly duo every round up to 200+! they cost toguether less than 2k on chimps!

[@MichaelSolly97]

@@dinamosflams how do you get 2 heroes in 1 game?

[@Name-ru1kt]

@@dinamosflams no they don’t… Tell me where the bloon damage is for earlier rounds and since you can only do that in co op then its even slower leveling on slow leveling heros

[@Name-ru1kt]

@@dinamosflams can’t even beat 63 with both maxed probally

[@iceicicle3046]

All I need to say to make this tier list crumble is avatar of wrath. Seriously obyn in f tier? Literally free black borders everywhere. All beginner and intermediate maps, and quite a few advanced maps and dark castle literally are ruined by obyn and avatar of wrath

[@fractionjackson1625]

I was about to make a similar comment myself glad someone else realized that it was weird. I would have put him in B at least maybe A

[@jimkas3606]

so many strategies work on those maps, just because obyn has one strategy that works on them doesn't mean he is good

[@fractionjackson1625]

@jim kas but a lot of them are and many people agree with it if you look at more comments

[@iceicicle3046]

@@jimkas3606 still very easy to use and is quite hard to find a better strategy. Just because you can beat every expert map with no hero, doesn't mean geraldo isn't way better than having no heroes

[@jimkas3606]

@@iceicicle3046 I get what you mean but their are so many stronger and cheaper strategies

[@NijikaAirConditioner]

Obyn may be weak in terms of dps in late game and to moabs in general but his buffs to magic monkeys and especially druid make him insanely good, in my opinion he's a S tier to me. edit: also him being able to slow down bloons and then moab class bloons at later levels is pretty good too

[@jimbob-br5jt]

I agree he is really good because of the magic buff but i dont know about s tier i would put him at a solid a

[@donnabrown9717]

Obyn per say isn’t s tier but he is high b or low to mid tier a.

[@hyper_d1113]

buffs he gives that is completely negligible and completely outclassed by Geraldo's support.

[@tacotown4598]

Druid strat is terrible and completely outclassed

[@humanbeing3551]

If you think about it obyn's buffs are comparatively weak to jones's, brickell's, gwen's, and geraldo's (the druid buffs aren't bad though just not amazing). His brambles, like Hbomb said, is basically only useful for early camo. With his pretty average dps in early to mid game and trash in late game, it is a bit more understandable for why he put obyn in F-tier. My personal opinion is high D - low C because his synergy with some good strats and his wall of trees being a decent moneymaker isn't worth obyn being in F tier. I DO agree that obyn is the worst hero however.

[@ceoofswitzerland1310]

appreciate the fact you put striker jones in s tier, he is really underrated: the bomb spam strat is one if not the best strat in the game and it's only real downside is that it takes a lot of space. However i have to disagree oh Obynn, the druid spam strat is still very good and imo he is b tier (would put quincy in f tier instead as the worst hero)

[@goomba9956]

Imo Quincy gets so much hate just because he can't consistently pop yellows and pinks. Quincy levels fast, can pop leads and camos, (with enough levels) has amazing abilities, and does the most damage to moabs than any other hero. The ddt issue is easily solved by a 230 village, which you would probably need to buy for games like chimps anyways. Quincy is a tier at the least imo, and azili is the worst, besause she isn't useable until Freeplay and even then she is heavily micro dependent.

[@whyisthisathingagain]

Quincy compared to obyn is op

[@Luna34186]

saying this about the original video, this comment, and its replies: can we just agree that all the heroes are pretty good and none really objectively belong in F tier?

[@goomba9956]

@@Luna34186 based

[@ceoofswitzerland1310]

@@Luna34186 yea, there is not a bad hero and the only broken one is geraldo

[@kakacake8752]

7:12 best strat in the game currently is geraldo snipers (every chimps can be beaten with it, yes even ravine, bloody, ouch, workshop...)

[@tacotown4598]

so busted

[@dinamosflams]

tbh most map's difficulties comes from number of lanes and their lenghs, which are just nullified by snipers

Hbomb: " *Obyn is one of the worst heros in the game* " BTD battles 2 players: " *I didnt like that* "

[@just_oliwer4581]

I'm glad Geraldo was my first hero, now when I bought all of them he still remains my favourite for cheap deffence so you can farm some money meanwhile.

[@thosegamerzyt0900]

Same

[@Name-ru1kt]

He’s not that useful for cheap defense as you think. Yes he’s good but for example his normal mael ability which seems on the surface rather op for its cheap cost is actually less efficient to use than a normal mael if your gonna use it more than one time The turrets are rather meh as boomerang is better early game. Really I think sharping stone is the only broken op thing about him

[@just_oliwer4581]

@@Name-ru1kt Now after update it's not as op as it used to, though the turret with targetting set to last is a good cheap early game deffence, so you can focus on other things. 0-2-2 lingering magic MK wizard monkey is also a really good early game deffence, it can solo a lot of rounds, it just needs something to pop the purples (for example 1-0-0 ninja set to strong)

[@desmondleee]

Obyn is consider cheap for hero and has very decent popping for early stages. Its druid buff is also very good so it's not fair to put him in F tier at all.

[@tacotown4598]

druid strat is outclassed and his earlygame is outclassed by psi, quincy and just straight up dart monkeys.

[@Buzzumbud]

Another great thing about Geraldo and Gwen, they synergyze well together in co-op, as the rejuv potion and Gwen level 10 ability work amazing together on r98 as I accidentally found out last week

[@gistrobaguette7566]

You must have been playing on logs because gwen lvl10 is the absolute worst hero ability in the game currently…

[@Buzzumbud]

@@gistrobaguette7566 no, it was the one with the road.. I forgot what its called, but the road with 2 semicircle turns and it goes back and forth.

[@cellianexurianity5021]

The problem with churchill and Gwendolyn is that they REALLY suffer on tracks where they can't be put in a place where they can't shoot down a straight line to maximize their pierce and damage potentials, much like a juggernaut and dartling gunner, I've seen way too many situations that their damage potential incredibly bombs. As their projectiles would just pierce some targets, fly into the distance and waste so much damage by hitting nothing else.

[@hyper_d1113]

churchill doesnt need straight lines, stop believing lies. gwendolyn is a support hero so i dont know why you'd think she needs straight lines,

[@tacotown4598]

Church doesn’t actually need those straight lines, they just make him more busted

[@CrimsonClaws]

I’m actually waiting until the Geraldo nerf to use him in difficult modes like CHIMPS because it almost feels like cheese to have stuff such as mini smaels for 500 doubloons

[@layers3458]

yeah i hate using geraldo because you don't really need a strategy, you just throw down shop items and win

[@dinamosflams]

geraldo is the definition of pay to win lol

[@layers3458]

@@dinamosflams how is geraldo ptw?

[@CrimsonClaws]

@@layers3458 cuz you pay him for items to help win the game, also recent nerfs are good, nothing crazy but it didn’t have to be, limitations like glue disappearing much faster and sharp rock not being forever are great changes that make it feel so much more like strategizing rather than hmm I perma buff sniper for 300 coins yes good

[@dinamosflams]

@@layers3458 you literally buy his items and win with them...

[@MainChannel9521]

Finally a hero tier list that is up to date and not a joke

[@tacotown4598]

You could just check the 31.0 comprehensive chimp tier list, had full hero rankings and is so much better then this garbage

[@benro6564]

Churchill I think is A. Cost is high but there are ways to save up even on expert chimps and he does insane amounts of damage while being able to pop every bloon type and destroy dense rounds like 63 and 76 with his level 3 down a straight line

[@all-starsilver1835]

To me it's amazing how strong the early Churchill levels are at dealing with midgame. Like, what other hero can compare to Churchill at as early as level 6? And then moab strike is solid. At later levels he gets a lot stronger but he doesn't *need* those levels to do something in some cases. And I suppose the slow leveling speed makes the cost less annoying to deal with, since if you get him up late, at least you're not losing too many potential levels.

[@elfunnycar798]

@@all-starsilver1835 I disagree because he is good but only when straight lines are involved without straight lines makes him a really bad hero so he is really map dependable

[@gistrobaguette7566]

@@elfunnycar798 Yes and no. All maps have some kind of straight except maybe flooded valley. Even all true expert maps have them. He is more placement dependant than map dependant.

[@tacotown4598]

Once again, HE DOESN’T NEED STRAIGHT LINES, and point number 2 have you seen expert maps they basically can’t stay away from them

[@elfunnycar798]

@@tacotown4598 He doesn't NEED straight lines but he is WAY better with them

[@swaqqyy]

the fact that quincy isnt even s tier at least speaks volumes to how little hbomb knows about the game. everybody knows that nothing gets past his bow, therefore making him the best hero in btd6

[@Huginfugs]

Obyn does not deserve f tier. My only complaint was that obyn was in f tier when he is great early to mid game and has a low cost

[@tacotown4598]

Extremely bad, worst hero in the game. Completely outclassed unless you’re running aow, a mediocre strat.

[@goostav8235]

Obyn is a lot higher than F. Very easy early game on a lot of maps. Wall of trees comes in very clutch mid game. The only thing he doesn't really cover is the late game but you can save up for some decent stuff before late game hits especially with wall of trees letting you to just keep on saving up.

[@tacotown4598]

wall of trees doesn't give extra cash in chimps, his earlygame is outclassed by quincy and geraldo, his midgame is also outclassed by quincy, and his buffs don't have any good synergies and are outclassed by other heroes

[@CircusQueen8]

putting obyn in F because "there are other strategies that are better" while also putting ezili above F purely because of an extremely impractical, gimmicky strategy is just, what?

[@tacotown4598]

Because hex is powerful when used properly. Ur just bad for not being good enough to use it properly

[@kpz6600]

takeaways: Quincy: "nothing gets past my bow" (actually) Obyn: I don't agree. I do respect your opinion, but I'm an obyn main. his spirit wolf attack is cool and really good with druids. That's all I have to say. Thanks!

[@tacotown4598]

Did you know that all beginner maps and intermediate maps are free regardless of sauda? For the vast majority of them, you just Quincy ninja alch Apache prime win. Or you could Geraldo snipers if ur feeling fancy. Sauda does not “get” you 40 free black borders, cuz Quincy can do it for free.

[@minthecat7829]

yeah but that doesn't make Sauda bad ya know?

[@tacotown4598]

It kinda does, considering there’s no real reason to use her.

[@Rurike]

Geraldo is one of two heros i havnt unlocked yet just cause all his mechanics and such with his shop seems a bit overwhelming at a glance

[@kirinc-s.7156]

yeah. He’s really good, but the problem is if you use Geraldo, then your strat is a Geraldo start. You can’t just use him for passive help

[@The21stGamer]

i didnt get him because hes so powerful

[@ThingInTheHall]

I'm similar, but I just can't use corvus lmao

[@donpendejo122]

and the worst con of etienne is that he is french, but it can be fixed with his skin

[@Illuminex_XD]

Like how one of strikers Pros is "Likes explosives'"

[@pichrek2176]

i personally like obyn, he can easily carry you to round 20 on single lane maps while you save money for other monkeys

[@RandomPerson-gf6gd]

So does Sauda and Geraldo. And kind of Quincy

[@pichrek2176]

@@RandomPerson-gf6gd quincys annoying, geraldo is better at late game and sauda well shes out of the league shes good for both early and late game

[@RandomPerson-gf6gd]

@@pichrek2176 Geraldo is better at all times. Early, mid, late, free play

[@Martin-yo8wh]

When you put Obyn into F despite the pros and cons you mentioned; and compare that to other heroes' pros and cons, I am starting to think this might be a satire or something.

[@tacotown4598]

No obyn is really bad overall, that’s the one thing hbomb got right. Otherwise, hbomb isn’t that good at ranking these heroes

[@Ashaps-ft5xj]

Admiral Brickell actually has the best late game of any hero just because if you make a sun temple on artic wind and sell it, it becomes a water tower and can gain double attack speed from her low cooldown ability.

[@kirinc-s.7156]

really??? whoaaa

[@amphiapple7890]

Adria’s sacrifice gives double attack speed permanently if you continuously sacrifice $2500, the max sacrifice value.

[@Inklow]

Justice for his editor's opinion for obyn

[@Hbomb]

Lol

[@vadimyudkovsky9022]

@@Hbomb you listed way more pros then cons for obyn. Plus he has more then 1 good strat. The ninja alch sun avatar and grandmaster shinobi tactics are both really good. Plus he is probably like the 3rd best early game hero in the game due to 2 damage seeking

[@Hbomb]

@@vadimyudkovsky9022 idk if you're kidding, but Obyn doesn't help Shinobi ninjas much because they already stack pierce making his buff redundant (which is why we like pat's roar with them for the extra damage). He is fun to use though, especially for the early game ninja alch strat

[@tacotown4598]

@@Hbomb the best thing he does for shinobis is increase their range, making it a bit(?) easier to fit 20 of them close to a gmaster

[@Hbomb]

@@tacotown4598 true, that extra range is nice

[@vxz3189]

putting pat over obyn is crazy dude

[@tacotown4598]

No it makes a lot of sense to me.

[@YEAH340]

@@tacotown4598 probably because you’ve never played the game

[@tacotown4598]

@@YEAH340 actually the funniest shit anyone’s said to me in years. I’m going to ask you genuinely: do you think you have more experience in this game then I do?

[@YEAH340]

@@tacotown4598 I’ve been playing since December 2019

[@tacotown4598]

@@YEAH340 more comedy. let me guess, you booted up the game once, beat the tutorial, then didn't do anything until now?

[@theape6778]

A cool way I'd like to see Geraldo nerfed is by putting him on the Adora/Churchill leveling up tier.

[@pokalukawan]

You forgot one con for Etienne, he’s fr*nch

[@eray3374]

The fact that Adora has the ability to connect and change her color when she connect with vengeful true son good makes she in my opinion best hero

[@lightray107]

do you usually use vengeful and adora? no i dont think so

[@bugjams]

@@lightray107 Chill. It's literally just his opinion.

[@Baconbaconbaconbacon1]

I disagree with obyn tier, Hes so good if you utilize magic monkeys mostly or druid strat, it'll shred through alot of rounds easily cause of his buff he should be at B+ at least

[@gistrobaguette7566]

Pat >>> obyn for magic monkeys except druids.

[@tacotown4598]

druid strat is outclassed for the most part and his synergies with other magic monkeys aren't very good either

[@tacotown4598]

If obyn’s best strategy is worse than those with any other hero he’s def f tier

[@LionLoser]

S

[@tacotown4598]

@@LionLoser b- at best

[@shadowdragon2730]

Obyn's C at least because of one simple thing Poplust Spam is one of the most ubiquitous strategies in the game.

[@tacotown4598]

Ubiquitos? maybe. Good? no.

[@marshal_cody]

Thank you so much, just what I need to find out what hero to buy next

[@SimsimWwW]

Nah i have already every hero.

[@realtbhandrew]

@@SimsimWwW nobody was talking about you

[@SimsimWwW]

@@realtbhandrew Joe mama

[@SimsimWwW]

@@realtbhandrew because youre videos are stinky and long that i can beat chimps and impoppable before watching youre one video.

[@Hbomb]

Any time!

[@RocketInAMaidSuit]

7:02 ayyyy that’s me!

[@urban94]

If you want to do advanced maps on half cash without powers/instas Obyn is incredibly nice. Love him just for that

[@tacotown4598]

How???

[@Noam536]

2:36 is no one gonna talk about how it says she likes “drugs”💀

[@jframexi2783]

You forgot one Quincy Pro point: Nothing get's past his bow.

[@enlightshadow4852]

I'd put Obyn above Quincy. Quincy doesn't have THAT much more dps in late game to make him worth using and Obyn actually has a passive utility to buff other magic monkeys, applying more dps to them than Quincy ever could by himself.

[@tacotown4598]

Quincy 1. Has better early because he can be placed starting, and 2. Quincy has more than 4x more dps lategame than obyn, plus has better abilities. Plus druids are overall very subpar and don’t work on any true expert map

[@tacotown4598]

@Odd and cyn what’s the problem with that

[@mikel2976]

1:21 slight correction here. amphibious is incorrect since "amphi" means 2 and "bios" life. which is used to indicate some animal can live both under water and on land.

[@starkar91]

🤓🤓🤓

[@mikel2976]

@@starkar91 I'm no nerd😡 keep your facts straight🤬

[@dinamosflams]

so pat fussy is the only amphibious hero

[@The21stGamer]

@@mikel2976 nobody asked about the amphi and bios bit

[@Quazex]

@@The21stGamer I didn't ask but I thought it was pretty cool

[@normalchannel2185]

my man really put quincy above obyn. obyn is one of the easiest starts to beat dark castle chimps, and is great overall.

[@tacotown4598]

druid strat, 1. needs pspike to beat dark castle chimps, and 2. Dark castle chimps is pretty much the last map you can do with druid strat. on every other map other heroes are better. plus, obyn's stratagies are overall outclassed. he's really not that good. quincy is pretty good, kinda like sauda but with real usage: good for earlygame on infernal, muddles, and bluddles, while also contributing some helpful lategame damage with his powerful moab damage and strong abilities

[@normalchannel2185]

@@tacotown4598 your opinion

[@tacotown4598]

@@normalchannel2185 why exactly is it my opinion? it's based on extensive testing and the actual damage values that exist in the game. plus even the best players in the game agree with me that quincy is better than obyn. just check the 31.0 comprehensive chimps tierlist.

[@normalchannel2185]

@@tacotown4598 first of all, I don't play btd6(I'm broke), only btdb2. Based off of that game, quincy is the worst, followed by Gwen, then striker Jones, then obyn then Churchill and then Ben *in random quad, Jones and obyn fall down below gwen

[@tacotown4598]

@@normalchannel2185 ew, you play the cringe pay to win game bozo

[@congregationbypresta]

obyn should’ve been at least b tier

[@vadimyudkovsky9022]

Yes high B or low A is way better for him

[@tacotown4598]

No, b- or c at best

[@tapseymoth803]

Admittedly Im super biased because Ezili is my absolute favorite hero in the game but I think she is closer to a B than a C and it isn’t even really because of her moab hex. It’s mostly because of how cheap she is and how insane her base auto attack is at level 8. She’s incredibly flexible both being able to hit camos and leads but also over walls like an alchemist and can solo most early waves if you micro her targeting between first and strong properly. My favorite tower in the game are the necromancer towers are which she super buffs by increasing their pierce and life spawn basically allowing you to go with 0-2-5 and still get all of the benefits of 2-0-5. But as much as I love her, I cannot put her anyplace above B. Her early levels are just so awful for the midgame (waves 10-40) where most chimps levels are at their hardest with so many dead level ups that make it impossible to power rush her to level 8. Her level 3 ability isn’t completely useless, buts more because without that in the early game because a lot of her damage comes from dots regens might as well be purples to her. Its better than nothing, but literally almost anything would be better than it. If I was going to buff her it would be a simple power redistributing. Spread out some of effects that are crammed into level 8 to level 7 so it doesn’t feel as bad when playing on chimps although I do wonder if that would be too much given how insane she is post level 8. Like I said I know Im biased but she is definitely better than C in my eyes >~

[@tacotown4598]

You will be very happy to know that ezili is a tier on the 31.0 chimps tier list. Her hex is, when timed properly, insanely busted, similarly powerful to Etienne’s ucav

[@tapseymoth803]

That definitely makes sense, honestly she sometimes feels almost overpowered because of how cheap she is verse how insane her late game is. For being able to be placed right at the start and being able to solo the first couple rounds (depending on the map), how powerful she becomes almost feels unfair

[@zacharyadams3422]

@@tacotown4598 hex is way better than ucav lol.simply out Phoenix exists,so ucav is not a midgame carry it's a free 9k for the cost of a hero slot.hex does lot more than 9k of any tower.

[@tacotown4598]

@@zacharyadams3422 yes, I just have to tone the ezili propoganda down to get people on board in the first place-you know how hostile the community is to any ezili praise.

[@zacharyadams3422]

@@tacotown4598 lol

[@theresaclark9848]

Obyn is NOT F Tier, no way. He makes early rounds pretty damn easy, and his Druid strat is super good. Yeah it's replaceable but it's ol' reliable. Edit: not to add, with Obyn you have your decent farming, you can buff a Super, Wizard, Druid, Ninja or Alch pretty damn decently. With Striker, you have a stun and you can buff bombs and mortars. Obyn can make money and buff 5 different towers, that's amazing compared to a stun and buffing 2 towers.

[@MeeTonToE]

There's a reason why Striker Mauler spam has been nerfed 6 times over the last 10 updates in the last 2 years while STILL being very relevant. It's the most consistent true expert black border strategy available ever since its discovery in version 18.0. Unfortunately, that same update also nerfed how Obyn buffs non-druid magic towers, which kinda rotated him out of the metagame. Not being meta doesn't mean he's bad, he just doesn't perform as consistently as other heroes.

[@gistrobaguette7566]

Being able to buff more potential towers doesnt mean much when he is heavily outclassed by Pat with magic monkeys, and only marginally better with druids compared to Pat or Gwen. Striker has absolutely no competition. The only thing Obyn does reliably is being reliably bad.

[@theresaclark9848]

@@gistrobaguette7566 he's not F tier though. He has enough stuff going for him to the point where he's not F tier.

[@theresaclark9848]

@@MeeTonToE I'm not saying he's meta, or even good, I just think he's a lot better than Josh and pretty much the entire community gives him credit for

[@gistrobaguette7566]

@@theresaclark9848 F tier is harsch yes, but C tier is definitely justified

[@e0031-w5e]

I can clear ALL Easy and Intermediate, and 11/14 Advanced with Obyn though

[@charliefrost3242]

For real, I don't get his logic whatsoever, they say he's not good but yet i clean up maps with him and his druids lol

[@tacotown4598]

Damn that’s cool but it doesn’t change the fact that obyn is unusable on every true expert map and outclassed on all others

[@e0031-w5e]

I agree he’s not as good actually, just slightly/very surprised the uploader left D and E tiers completely blank just to give 1 slightly worse hero F?? (I work as a teacher actually so I’m kinda imagining how much controversy this might cause in a classroom context; esp w bell curve rules in place)

[@tacotown4598]

@@e0031-w5e I mean this tierlist is pretty badly scaled in general, most chimps lists made by the game's best playes have the majority of the towers between a- and SS, with a few stragglers between b+ and f.

[@logaomg]

obyn deserves at least B tier, his ability to buff magic monkeys and druids even more is just so good with strats based around magic monkeys such as ninja alch and strategies that incorporate sun avatar, and it really shouldnt matter that he does barely any damage late game since his utility makes up for it

[@gistrobaguette7566]

The fact that he can buff all magic monkeys means nothing when his magic monkey buffs are severely outclassed by pat. You dont want obyn for sav, you want pat. Ninja alch doesnt need obyn, it needs pat. Obyn is only best for druid strats. So in the end you have a hero where his only synergy is with a strat that is never the best strat to beat a map, that has a bad mid/late game on any map and is unusable on expert maps and doesnt start chimps. F tier, maybe not. Worst hero in the game currently, arguably yes.

[@hyper_d1113]

@@gistrobaguette7566 hi index person uwu

[@tacotown4598]

@@gistrobaguette7566 I think there are 3 candidates for worst hero. adora, obyn and sauda. none of them have real use cases on any relavent map

[@tacotown4598]

His utility is still worse than that provided by any other hero

[@CoffeeHype7356]

@@gistrobaguette7566 Finally someone who understands BTD6

[@dylanwhite7715]

Lol putting obyn in the f tier when his wall of trees absorbs ddts

[@Somerandomdude-010]

Avatar of wrath with obyn strat is very powerful And obynn himself helps you gain some extra money with trees too He should be B or higher

[@octoboi]

I love you Hbomb, but this time, I think you are totally wrong. I hope you don’t take this as an insult rather as a nother point of view. - Benjamin is not S tier. Any gamemode that Benjamin is good in can just be cheesed by using farms, or if you really need to, an instamonkey (even just low tier ones for early game). The game gives them out like peanuts, with daily challenges, bosses, odysseys, and daily chests. - Mauler spam is currently far from the meta. It’s still fine, I guess, espcially for easy maps like Kartsndarts, but after Mauler’s ceram damage got nerfed to the ground it’s not the best strat. - Sauda is not S tier for the same reason that Ben is not S tier. Sauda cheeses many maps even on chimps, but on all those maps, you could also just drop a ninja alch into sav, which is like one of the most effortless strategies ever anyways. The only difficult maps that I think sauda can be used for is Peninsula and Workshop, and even then Pat’s probably better. - Pat is great, but S tier, really? They only has a couple good synergies and their range is miniscule. - Adora in A tier?! Sure, she’s the best late game but it’s no fun having to spam her abilities and keep sacing monkeys for her when each round takes 5 minutes. Plus, she’s a difficult hero to play in non-lategame runs and even with all the skill required, she’s not even that good. Unless you want to prove a point or meme, there’s not really any reason to use her. - Churchill is excellent. He is NOT, as you claim, “difficult to slot in”, because he’s balanced for that. Sure, he levels slowly, but the levels that he does get surpass even level 20 heroes, Plus, he is a midgame carry when used properly. - While I respect you brickell placement, I would slot her up a bit as she is the best hero for Flooded Valley and Cargo and has an excellent synergy with Permaspike - Quincy’s… not good? But he’s not that bad either. Like MIB, alch buff, AMD, and the Strong tagreting are… things that exist? - I don’t think you understand Ezili. She is not, as you seem to claim, a BAD killer (although that is certainly a useful aspect of hers), or even a one-shotter. Her MOAB hex is absolutely goated if you use it right, because it chains onto other MOAB-class bloons AND destroys all insides for you. - Obyn is bad, but F tier? Nah. Still a contender for the worst hero though, and AoW is outclassed by GMN and MB, and AoW can also use gwen for the mib skip - I agree with your Gwen placement but her Firestorm is not a screen wipe? Its main purpose is to apply heat it up, because its damage and dot is pretty poo poo

[@tacotown4598]

Thank you for your thoughts, it’s good to hear that there are people in this community who know how the game work. I’d like to think that pat deserves s tier, but I can understand if he doesn’t if only because powercreep. Maulers are still really, really good, I used pex-assassins to black border workshit(in the current patch) and I think it works on bluddles too, as a testament to how strong and versatile it still is. Also particular thanks for putting into words why ezili is really good too, I saw her as s- on the community chimps tierlist and knew that meant she was good but didn’t quite understand why. If used properly, her Moab hex can basically eliminate the insides of entire rounds worth of moabs for free. Also, on some maps, it’s cheaper to level her to 20 then buy first strike, and that itself has to count for something

[@octoboi]

@@tacotown4598 About the maulers, pex and clusters do about as well, and you could also use like smael pat or something on workshop. Also, I never said that the bad instakill is bad, just that it's not the only positive attribute of Ezili.

[@tacotown4598]

@@octoboi that makes sense. Also, my mention of ezili’ s bad insta kill was meant in a “oh here’s another thing she can do way”, not as a criticism of what you said, though it can be hard to tell what people mean on the internet

[@ibex4865]

Obyn is one of the best heroes in the game. And his wall off trees also does a lot of late game damage. My mom and I love playing with obyn!

[@tacotown4598]

Obyn is terrible. His buffs are completely outclassed, his abilities are very weak, and his attack force is near nonexistent.

[@Pug-confuso]

@@tacotown4598 i laughed

[@tacotown4598]

@@Pug-confuso very cool, but that’s not an explanation as to why obyn is good, is it?

[@tacotown4598]

@Tom Myers if you want to use your hero slot for an rng totem with less effect then Moab glue that’s your choice, but everyone else will be making logical choices Obyn’s buff is +3 pierce to druids and +2 to other magic monkeys. This is an unbelievably weak buff that is only useful on one tower, avatar of wrath. Aow is a mediocre strategy that is heavily outclassed and has little to no viability on difficult advanced and expert maps. Conclusion: obyn sucks lmao

[@pooking7i631]

Me: Ok I’m agreeing with this so far… wait… OYBN IN F TIER?!

[@tacotown4598]

Obyn is probably the worst hero in the game, since nk cut his Moab slow in half

[@Cosmo-enjoyer]

@@tacotown4598 he is made for group for Bloons not for Dps + His ability at moabs do damage

[@tacotown4598]

@@Cosmo-enjoyer his damage, no matter how you spin it, is abysmally bad compared to every other hero.

[@sonicbionic]

hbomb back with the amazing help with new players on btd6

[@iceicicle3046]

Literally puts obyn in f tier. The pierce from obyn is what makes him way better then every other hero except geraldo because 540 dollar super maelstrom is definitely fair and balanced

[@Hbomb]

You know it!

[@mrdante_]

@@iceicicle3046 i don't think obyn is that good

[@DonJarvius]

@@mrdante_ he’s not great, but he doesn’t deserve to be in F tier.

[@iceicicle3046]

@@mrdante_ well then you clearly haven't used him properly

[@asuddenredfox3626]

Me: Hey, Striker Jones, how many bombs did you want? Striker Jones: Yes.

[@CactusQuade]

Eti is my fav atm, lets not forget that 9 times out of 10 you'll get him to lvl 20 by round 97 or 98. His lvl 20 keeps a constant UCAV in the sky so he turns into a poor mans flying fortress, honestly the best hero on large maps with multiple tracks.

[@williamcupp4883]

I did NOT expect Obyn to go in F tier 😳

[@Hbomb]

Lol, apparently no one did

[@tacotown4598]

@@Hbomb but he does deserve to be there

[@thebiggerzachariah6811]

F is a bit harsh, afterall, there are some decent strategies with him, I would probably put him at B or C tier

[@CadenO356]

Pretty Good tier list. But, Quincy should be up there with Geraldo, probably higher because nothing gets past his bow.

[@splooge1428]

Also amphibious means land and water at 1:22 which does not make sense

[@Hbomb]

Lol, I know. Flame the editor

[@TheReddieRed]

Oben Greenfoot: 2 Cons Hbomb: F tier lol no redemption

[@tacotown4598]

Hbomb sucks at the whole “ranking heroes” thing but obyn’s placement is deserved

[@charliefrost3242]

@@tacotown4598 Nah I think you are bad with him or just ignorant. The druid comp is one of the most powerful and useful methods of winning runs and going decent into late game as well. I can see from your weirdly obsessed hate comments towards him, you have some sort of vendetta against Obyn, did he sleep with your mom or something?

[@tacotown4598]

@@charliefrost3242 I don’t understand the assumption that saying some petty insult will make you more likely to win an argument about facts and logic. When I look past that, the only arguement you’ve provided is that “Druid comp is one of the most powerful and useful methods of winning runs and going decent into lategame”. Okie, let me quickly disprove that. Druid comp is a mediocre to subpar strat with little to no map flexibility and a very weak midgame. Aow, as a lategame option, is decent on maps where it can see all tracks, but is far weaker where it does not have a central location to set up the Druid army. Furthermore, with the cash you have to spend on extra midgame firepower you barely end up having enough money for lategame. And you might say “if it’s so bad then why can it be used to black border dark castle chimps” I’d respond by saying that you can black border dark castle chimps with a max buffed 302 ninja. Skucha literally has a video on it. You might respond to that by saying that that run was harder and took a lot more skill, and you’r be right. But in practical runs you can just use gmn so problem solved. I don’t have any vendetta against obyn, I just enjoy deconstructing your fragile and incorrect understanding of game mechanics and putting you on the path to getting good.

[@sc23_gaming5]

Striker jones glowup goes crazy. Everyone used to clown on this guy

[@edmundosantos2421]

Obyn don’t deserve the F tier. He pretty strong even if you don’t use the magic monkeys strategy. I think you forgot to mention that he can attack through obstacles.

[@tacotown4598]

honestly he's a contender for worst hero. just doesn't have a use case where a stratagy with another hero isn't better

[@MrJohn8apie]

@@tacotown4598 the fact that he is the worst hero yet still perfectly usable in the majority of cases just shows how balanced this game is. awesome

[@tacotown4598]

@@MrJohn8apie that’s a good way to put it

[@m4rcyonstation93]

That Obyn placement is going to be controversial among the less experienced community Honestly i 100% agree with this tierlist, I’m surprised by the adora placement though, I havent bought her yet because i was under the impression she was weak, i might have to try her out more

[@all-starsilver1835]

Honestly, Adora is probably one of the worst, or at least most annoying heroes if simply used casually, because she relies on the blood sacrifice to be good, due to it buffing sun avatars (or temples in epic lategame) and making her slow level speed less atrocious, and that requires a lot of money to be put into her, as well as the buffs being so painfully temporary if she's anywhere under level 20. Overall her attacks and abilities feel kind of weak (I especially noticed this since she practically can't do anything to the round 40 moab, even with the abilities she gets at the time), she never gets camo and only limited purple popping power. All that combined and she doesn't always feel great to use, which is probably why she usually gets rated low. Put her in the right situation, though, like using her for her support abilities (and potentially the sun god/vtsg transformation for late game) and she can be pretty useful.

[@m4rcyonstation93]

@@all-starsilver1835 Yeah that makes sense. Pumping all the stuff into adora with a bunch of savatars around seems pretty fun though

[@m4rcyonstation93]

That came out wrong

[@minthecat7829]

@@m4rcyonstation93 xD

[@tacotown4598]

@@all-starsilver1835 adora badddddddddddddddd

[@arttukettunen5757]

Many people: NK has really been balancing all of the crosspaths lately, good job! Meanwhile heroes: Yes, the overall worse heroes do have their uses, and sometimes might even be the best choice but that's often only by a small margin

[@jamesknapp64]

Yeah release Geraldo was a head scratcher.

[@tacotown4598]

@@jamesknapp64 you should see release brickell-infinite megamine stacking

[@CrusadingSnom]

the fact that obyn is in F but pat got S is really sad because I literally have won CHIMPS, relying on obyn himself so many times

[@gentleman7476]

Same. H bombs take is pretty bad on this one

[@tacotown4598]

Yeah, I bet you feel really good with your 4 beginner map black borders you got because of obyn. If that makes him op then god almighty I don’t want to imagine what you think the actually op units are.

[@CrusadingSnom]

@@tacotown4598 why so salty over a kids game, you sound like a dude who rants about why 4/0/2 alchemyst is worse than 4/0/1 bruh, get a life

[@linkfiedproductions2246]

Brother that Obyn ranking makes me cry

[@tacotown4598]

Keep crying

[@vondalironfist5753]

Obyn is not an f tier, he’s helped me win many magic moneys only games and I’m not very good at btd6

[@tacotown4598]

Yeah no obyn sucks

[@FatManJackson]

@@tacotown4598 you are just bad at playing him

[@tacotown4598]

@@FatManJackson sure, being mathamatically inferior to every other hero when used with any strategy other then aow is 100% a result of my skill and not his ingame stats

[@FatManJackson]

@@tacotown4598 thats why so many people think he is good and keep using him, makes sense.

[@tacotown4598]

@@FatManJackson thank you for saying something true "thats why so many people THINK he is good and keep using him" in reality aow is a subpar strat with numerous weaknesses that lead to it being resoundingly outclassed

[@engFilipedeMelo]

I clearly have no idea of how to use mr Pat Fusty, cuz I would never rank him that high (more like a B tiver for me because he is very rng related and heavily micro dependent. Oh, and I beliche you forgot to mention that Churchill's real strengh is highly map dependent. Love your videos btw. You are an absolut legend in this game!

[@tacotown4598]

Place pat fusty. Place tack zone. Place alch. Use pat fusty ability. Win.

[@all-starsilver1835]

Pat has a +1 damage buff that can affect all monkeys around him (albeit in a short range) from as early as level 3, and gets even better later on. Then he has the slaps to stun moabs and the squeeze for big moab rounds. So he's crazy good. I've never been too big of a fan of Pat personally, but he's certainly one of the best heroes

[@G384Gaming]

I could see how you can put obyn in F tier despite how harsh that ranking was but I'd put him over quincy just because of the utility alone and I could see why gwen would be a B but my biggest struggle is early game and gwen saves me with that level 3 and level 10 SHREDS r63 and the buff always comes when I need it most and saves my life

[@tacotown4598]

quincy does a lot more than obyn. 1, he can be placed down round 1, which gives him an earlygame use case on maps like muddles, bluddles, infernal and even sanctuary. 2, his lategame damage is nothing to laugh at, with lvl 3 active he can do a lot of damage and clean up with lvl 10. plus fast leveling. and 3, finally, his midgame anti moab capability is really, really good, being easily as strong as obyn's wall of trees midgame

[@luukthegamer]

i absolutely love the 4 second intro. thanks man :)

[@EEE-hp1mu]

It's possible to win chimps with just geraldo on some maps with flame spirit spam on turrets, just use genie for DDTs and Reinforced DDTs and BAD. Other than that, Geraldo's fire spirit spam along with his bunnies and spam of nails and spinning blades, you can solo with no other tower buffs.

[@Official_ViperYT]

5:39 why did you put Quincy in C TIER, after all, he litteraly says, "nothing gets past my bow" obvious best tier.

[@Chessdom69]

Yeaup

[@staticostrich4689]

What is your problem with obyn? Go talk to Dablooon, he'll have something to say

[@original_clone]

Obyn is the most confusing hero, he appears very good (like b or low a) But then everyone ranks him as a bottom three hero while a good number of comments say he is much better than this. Idk where I would put him at this point it just a interesting thing to see.

[@jimkas3606]

I think the reason most people overate obyn is because obyn druid strat is one of the most recommended strats for chimps for beginner players and a lot of people's first chimp was done using it

[@tacotown4598]

@@jimkas3606 when in reality the best chimps strat is Geraldo snipers, and it’s not even close

[@zacharyadams3422]

@@tacotown4598 WeLl TEchIcLY pSI SNipeRs IS Not mUCh WorsE(gets hit bye brick).

[@tacotown4598]

@@zacharyadams3422 but it isn’t that much worse. I mean, Gerry snipers is definitely on another level, but pre Geraldo psi was the broken one doing crazy shit with snipers

[@zacharyadams3422]

@@tacotown4598 yeah I guess I was pointing out that the statement that Gerry snipers is the best strategy in the game and nothing else is close is kinda inaccurate In a joking way.

[@h0m3st4r]

I'd like to think that the only thing keeping Benjamin from being bonkers OP is Deflation and CHIMPS modes, where he can't generate cash.

[@tacotown4598]

I think he’s massively overrated. all non chimps game modes are easy if you know what you’re doing. Plus, if you want a hero that you can just pop down that will carry the game, just use psi

[@zacharyadams3422]

@@tacotown4598 do to how braindead he is Ben is straight up the best hero for everything but chimps(unless you actually care about deflation).I feel like a hero that's strong enough to outclass geraldo in 80% the modes in the game has to be rated real high.

[@tacotown4598]

@Zachary Adams hmmm, idk I think placing etn and then just spamming 030 druids and then winning on all r80 or less game modes on most maps(except military only lol). Also Geraldo definitely outclasses Ben outside of chimps, his ability to near solo the game on almost every map is just ludicrously op. And I think you overestimate ben’s cash generation. You act like it literally makes everything easy. For most of the game, he really only gives you a little extra

[@zacharyadams3422]

@@tacotown4598 the thing is that Ben's cash generation is good enough that he actually outclasses geraldo against bosses(it's honestly pretty close and comes down to if more money or paragon totems is more valuable)and modes other than chimps are hard to rate but do to hard standard being so easy it comes down to ease of use if you ask me,and Ben allows you to place a defense you know wins and then just go afk before any other hero.

[@tacotown4598]

@@zacharyadams3422 all modes other than chimps are easy, and on any hard map I would rather bring psi or Geraldo. Plus having 0 value on the hardest difficulty mode is a huge problem to me

[@Sailor.V]

Quincy and Obyn are great in odysseys as they make those beginning rounds (0-35) a breeze! Buy them first and Obyn takes care of leads (and first set of camo), Quincy takes care of camo and some leads. By round 30, you should already have something to take care of their weaknesses and clean up their leftovers

[@fanglix_]

I used to only use Pat because of the memes but know I realize how decent he is.

[@OmegaBoxJ]

Obyn is really good in my opinion, especially his lead killer ability and druid strat is super good

[@godofsomething1237]

obyn can smell my foot

[@CoffeeHype7356]

Leads are covered by Gwen, Ezili, Striker, Pat, and Psi, and Druids can be supported by Gwen and Geraldo. Obyn may not be F tier, but he is the worst out of all of the heroes.

[@kdxdeadman]

i guess adora works well with drugs

[@evanm1337]

Honestly, Brickell should be at least A tier. Sure, her revolver is pitiful at killing Bloons, but her revolver isn't her focal point. If you know when to use her abilities, she can save runs. I've done countless CHIMPS runs with her, and you can too, if you follow a few easy steps. 1) Don't place Brickell at the edge of a large pool of water. You're neutering her usefulness if you do, because Naval Tactics and her other buffs, such as 8th level camo detection only work in water. 2) Don't use bottom-path buccaneer around her. Again, you're neutering usefulness. In fact, don't use any water towers in support paths around her. She is designed to help water towers that deal tons of damage in a short amount of time. 3) Place a village at the edge of the water, with Jungle Drums, for increased effectiveness. Brickell and top-path village is a ludicrously good team. 4) Use Naval Tactics only as a panic button, on rounds where you know that a bloon rush is going to happen, such as 63 or even 90. 5) Mega Mine explosions cover the whole screen, and can also vaporize non-fortified DDTs, and also fortified ones at level 18, so if a few of them sneak past and a BFB or ZOMG is approaching, don't worry. Just place the mines near the ZOMG and watch the DDTs get turned into ash. 6) Place as many Mega Mines as you can. It doesn't matter where you put them since they kill the whole screen, and they don't have a footprint like other towers. Place one the instant it gets off cooldown.

[@Now_Roxas]

AINT NO FUCKING WAY YOU JUST DISRESPECTED OBYN IN THE THUMBNAIL

[@tacotown4598]

Obyn deserves it

[@Rustygiz]

Obyn is S tier

[@Now_Roxas]

​@@tacotown4598 SPIRIT OF THE FOREST

[@tacotown4598]

@@Now_Roxas mid tower, and you're probably better off paring it with geraldo or gwen or just any other hero