Thought it was the right time to upload this, to refute some of Simon Hiscocks garbage. You will see the timestamp on the video. www.gofundme.com/f/588854-altnabreac-cover-up
@wellerjam3 ай бұрын
Looks like they went onto their own land?
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
@@wellerjam No, they trespassed and the BTP came onto our private land for the purposes of a search without a warrant.
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
The truth will prevail!
@wellerjam3 ай бұрын
I hope so Liz. It is very confusing.
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
@@wellerjam No, it isn't. NWR are falsely claiming to own land that we own. How is that confusing.
@brendanaengenheister53512 ай бұрын
If ever there was an example of a corporation digging themselves into a hole and refusing to stop digging this debacle has got to be it. Obviously someone in their estates department F _ _ _ _ d up big time and even when they realised the mistake they just expected you to roll over and let them do their thing, well more power to your elbow for standing up to them, well done. An absolute PR disaster which could have been avoided right at the beginning when the mistake was first noticed a bit of astute negotiating at that point could have saved so much aggravation instead of all this bullying type behaviour.
@trevorskidmore54392 ай бұрын
I hope that this is a Start to you and yours getting a normal life back after Scotrail and BTP have so obviously conspired to make it a living hell. Evil people hide behind Big names. Well done to you and yours.
@drewkoenen83342 ай бұрын
I would not allow them on my land to remove anything. You criminally put it there it is the property owners now thanks for the gift.
@pepelemoko28203 ай бұрын
Also they know you are not violent, so what is the need for a police escort for company workers? I don't know you and it's nothing to do with me but it's driving me crazy this corrupt behaviour.
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your support and I'm so pleased you can see the truth of what they are doing to us.
@forestdad3 ай бұрын
Not violent so far, but incredibly obstructive so sadly people working foe NWR need to be accompanied to allow them just to do their job. Do you think NWR employees want to deal with this shit?
@thoughtfulalbatros96833 ай бұрын
BTP are their for intimidation purposes
@Motorhawk22 ай бұрын
The transport police are funded by the railway companies which puts them on a sort of leash and can make them puppets.
@johngibson38373 ай бұрын
This is two months ago, what's happened to the nice farm style gate that was there when that train travel fella went there just before this station closed
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
Keep moving the goal posts and we'll keep refuting!
@johngibson38373 ай бұрын
@@ALTNABREAC just watched a nice little video of two fellas mountain bike riding in your area from 3 years ago and they stopped by your station it looked very sweet and pleasant
@paulAnthony72363 ай бұрын
Their land their garden not a rail companies obviously these people have done their homework.
@ChrisRaeAdmin2 ай бұрын
Most property drawings are drawn before GPS and use land marks which can move, its not unusual for two people to have different property documentation because solicitor vary in their thoroughness/competence. Most public service companies have special power to access their issue via your property, and can, theoretically. compulsorily purchase access they need, What I can't find is why it is important to you to deny them access. Don't become another postmaster, they were in the right too.
@barrymayson24922 ай бұрын
I have two electric poles on my land and they pay a small fee to have them there and have access.
@wirralnomad2 ай бұрын
@@barrymayson2492 Having access is a right in Scotland so I can't see that being a problem, installing things on the land however is not a right and therein lies the whole entire problem in my view, had they jjust wished to access their property via yours that would have been well and good, taking possession of your property for their own agenda is theft and therefore a crime, that makes it a criminal offence and not a civil matter.
@joolz4848Ай бұрын
You should have put this video up at 2 x speed with the Benny Hill music in the background, it would have been fitting for the professionalism of ScotRail.
@michaelodonoghue74642 ай бұрын
I am fascinated to know why they don’t simply access Railway Property via the Railway Line? Surely they could bring a Lorry in via that means?
@jmcc58772 ай бұрын
Has British rail Acknowledged the court appointed surveyors report yet?👹 Bit of bitter pill for them to swallow publicly?😭
@juleshathaway38942 ай бұрын
British Rail ceased to exist in 1997.
@spotcatsteve37523 ай бұрын
It’s a good job Tony Martin isn’t living there 😂
@markgc653 ай бұрын
I believe you, I am not saying you deal with it as I would however I can not imagine its easy to sort this out! . But I 100% know big companys councils etc bully people because often they can! And sadly all to often they get away with it.
@TheSmudgley2 ай бұрын
Should reach out to an electric gate company and see if they will give you an gate opener 😊
@petemccalam57273 ай бұрын
I think they left more than they removed!
@mcmkerr-peterson13293 ай бұрын
Since when do you own the Station Platform and waiting Shelter?
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
Since we moved in
@jonpotter55363 ай бұрын
@@ALTNABREAC😂
@Ireallydontknow85813 ай бұрын
@@ALTNABREACnot according to title CTH7726 that you keep showing us. The boundary runs parallel to the railway track and along the wall of the house.
@Ireallydontknow85813 ай бұрын
@@ALTNABREACthe land the railway is built on hasn't been sold recently as it isn't showing on the ScotLIS as purchased at the same time as you purchased the station buildings. Have you owned it for a very long time?
@idlewise3 ай бұрын
@@ALTNABREAC would you please upload a scaled map of your title, including established boundary lines and building footprints, rather than the red and blue areas pictured on a satellite photo that obfuscates those lines and footprints.
@nobbybrown80563 ай бұрын
I think the viewers need to see 100% proof of your property boundries, as I was led to believe the railway owned the platform almost up to your house, it also looks like they mostly walked on the public right of way to get to the platform. I would bet you find proof somewhere that they do have the right to cross your land for access to the station in at least two directions, but I would like to think, for your sake, you find proof to close that option down! I wish you luck so you can be at peace with the whole situation, but feel things may not go your way, as these large companies do seem to get their way with this sort of thing.
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@alexanderevanska42742 ай бұрын
Read and view the latest posting.
@kerryl40312 ай бұрын
Trouble is there is a right to roam unless they make a mess. They sure made a mess and did not leave it as they found it! Did they say what was missing - they've spent ages in that shed! And the police in tow too. So they are/should be witnesses and as they are filmed - unable to make false representation.
@carltrucker3 ай бұрын
I notice that they seem to remain on the public footpath
@harry0473 ай бұрын
The access route is the driveway, always has been since 1874
@Lee.Willcox3 ай бұрын
What? As they came in via the gate and didn't cut padlocks, or they didn't use the newly laid public path they put in? They went right up though the property to the shit old shed with nothing in it of any value. It looks hilarious. Why did the coppers keep darting off? Did they think they could see Liz taking a shower ?
@Ireallydontknow85813 ай бұрын
@@Lee.Willcoxthe newly laid footpath hadn't been built as this footage is from July!! Just more spin on the story to muddy the waters
@Lee.Willcox3 ай бұрын
@@Ireallydontknow8581 Got you. It's all out of time. Still shows that the people have not been stopped going onto the land. I think it's more about having some damn respect and at least let them know what is going on. I don't know. It's all a bit odd. My head keeps going back to their solicitor/conveyancer and what a lousy job they must have done.
@Ireallydontknow85813 ай бұрын
@@Lee.Willcox there are two things to me, access rights and land ownership. This has been a railway station for 150 years, the building was sold by British Rail 50 years ago, I can't believe that a railway company wouldn't keep some land to ensure it has access for customers and employees/contractors etc. or at least access rights. Secondary all the solum business again a railway company isn't going to give itself problems by selling off its infrastructure (trackbed, platform, level crossing etc. when it is still running a live railway?
@deniserockwood131823 күн бұрын
Wow! Corrupt railroad and corrupt cops to help them. Did they even bother to get prior authorization to come on your land to remove items. How arrogant!
@pappete9988Ай бұрын
As youre watching this remember what the Post office did to its employees. This behaviour by top management of publicly owned business is encouraged and even financially rewarded by their goverment bosses, and paid for by the public.
@beau41703 ай бұрын
thought there was a path to the station?
@Ireallydontknow85813 ай бұрын
That path hadn't been built as this footage is from July!!
@beau41703 ай бұрын
@@Ireallydontknow8581 the path existed but was in a poor state was it not??. still the correct way to access the station ???
@Ireallydontknow85813 ай бұрын
@@beau4170 no the access to the station was always along the drive, the new path has only been built in the last few weeks. look at some other people's video it will be clear then.
@@ALTNABREAC Not a chance in hell sorry. The driveway i'm unsure,where the new path is i'm unsure but the Platform 100% will be Network Rail property you're delusional if you think otherwise. Network Rail own the platform Scot Rail manage it, whoever did the deeds or conveyancing are wrong.
@LizAltnabreac-u8h2 ай бұрын
@@DJRyanJamesUK You've seen all the deeds have you?! You are presuming something based on your opinion. It's the law that matters. It is you who is wrong.
@sirguyfawkes87022 ай бұрын
I would have insisted to access their property they should walk along the track!, the "Cess" from the nearest access point, not trespass on private property.
@lionelmcmillan79843 ай бұрын
Scotrail only operates train services in Scotland and are not responsible for railway infrastructure,their HQ is Waterloo Street Glasgow. Network Rail own the all infrastructure, stations, and railway lines their HQ is in St Vincent Street Glasgow. So these people will work for or contracted to Network rail.
@andrewwarcup6843 ай бұрын
And Network Rail are acting on behalf of the Scottish government, who want the 'station' improved to allow increased tourist access to the area. I believe.
@Johnburggy3 ай бұрын
@@andrewwarcup684 Not just that the whole area surrounding can only be reached by rough forest tracks (no public roads anyware near The tracks for much of the year cannot be used by ordinary cars . This Station although little used (& a request stop ) is a life line for the very few who live & work here.
@rotinkerbell2 ай бұрын
@@andrewwarcup684 Network Rail are not devolved. They are under the control of Westminster.
@rodneykilpatrick34013 ай бұрын
I think you probably have enough GFM funds to get your property pegged (legal survey). It’s absolutely the first step to proving wrongdoing.
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree :-)
@beau41703 ай бұрын
looks like inmates of a penal colony guarded by the btp
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
You got a great sense of humor 😂
@jmcc58772 ай бұрын
I also note your gate chain wasn't vandalised like last time. I hope you go for damages in civil court.
@AndyBurr-du3vtАй бұрын
Just the best for you and your family at Christmas, I take it you will sue them and have an even better one next year!❤
@dianawoodall98973 ай бұрын
Wonder if they are going to install a new shelter because he measured it
@jmcc58772 ай бұрын
I hope you withdraw your permission for British rail to transit your land. Because they are wilfully trespassing.
@PJRayment2 ай бұрын
"Because they are wilfully trespassing." That depends on who is right about the ownership.
@ExodusX13Күн бұрын
Well they aren't because the railway regulations act permits the use of private property to access the railways.
@robertwaye8032 ай бұрын
The little man against the big bully that’s Scot rail bullying people again?
@PondersEndModelRailway3 ай бұрын
When i look at the footage here, the access track makes much more sense in favour of network rail. I do believe that some workers here are trying to be polite and avoiding a confrontation with you. Perhaps BTP suggested this to save agro
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
People's land ownership are calculated by measurement, not how it looks. This is how they are trying to exploit and manipulate this entire situation. The truth will come out soon
@dianawoodall98973 ай бұрын
Hope this gets sorted out soon enough is enough for you both. @@ALTNABREAC
@FaganRoche3 ай бұрын
Ok, ive paused at 1:30 of the video... why would the police need to be there? And if you watch the silver fox ( one with grey hair orange bodysuit) his body language shouts get this recorded we're waiting for it, tense and scanning for your cameras/selves
@richardashchurch3 ай бұрын
Because everyone is frightened to go there, especially if alone. These guys are just workers and know nothing of the legality of land disputes.
@John-s3t6qАй бұрын
Did they get your permission to go on to your land . Or put in righting . With a letter ?
@jamescarre67433 ай бұрын
Why, if they , as they claim, own the drive not bring their vehicle to load the items onto. They seem to, in this instance, accept that they have only pedestrian right of access and why did they not use the pathway they created having committed, allegedly, criminal damage to your property.....Hmm, something funny going on here methinks. They even brought along their BTP guardians who also did not bring their vehicle onto the drive area pass the cattle grid. Hmm ...are the upholders to the truth and law feeling a little embarrassed? Hmm...not the usual two enforces. Where they off shift or just cannot take anymore of the sophistry they have perhaps been forced to peddle?
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
Excellent observation! Yes, they left all the vehicles parked away from our driveway that day and walked in........Now why would they do that if NWR 'owned' the driveway and could drive all their vehicles in whenever they want to! They didn't own it on 24/07/2024 but owned it 10/09/2024....................
@jamescarre67433 ай бұрын
@@LizAltnabreac-u8h yes Liz, perhaps this is Scotrail, NWR and the BTP first and very public act of acknowledging your rights. Title Deed is Title Deed and all that the Title Deed entails. Get a Chartered Surveyor to survey the property, better still, get NWR to pay for an independent surveyor you can both agree on.
@Rockall573 ай бұрын
Your right,....if they NR thought they were legally entitled they would certainly come with vehicles. NR has a duty of care to it's employees, health and safety act and not put their employees in an danger or compromising position.
@kbatknutton3 ай бұрын
It must be great to have your own private security firm
@derekemberton38133 ай бұрын
I think you need to consider reducing the volume of content uploaded to this channel. It’s too much. Keep it simple and to the point (the land ownership issue - not the access issue which I think I now understand). All I want to see is it all settled amicably, probably in a court of law, and a (new?) irrefutable agreement (covenant?) (re-)introduced into your deeds, acknowledging correct ‘ownership’ and legitimate access rights to the non-owner, and how it is to be expected they can exercise (not exorcise) those rights.
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
These videos are for the public to know the FULL facts of what has and is going on here. This video, for example, shows that the workers left their vehicles parked well away from the cattlegrid and our driveway and walked in to move heavy signage. Ask yourself this question: if NWR did own our driveway like they are claiming and had a right to access it with their vehicles, heavy plant and machinery like they did 2 weeks ago, why didn't they move the chain that day and drive on?????? So they didn't own our driveway on 24/07/24 but did on 10/09/24!
@derekemberton38133 ай бұрын
@@LizAltnabreac-u8h I totally understand your desire for the public to know the full facts (from your point of view). What I’ve seen asks many questions of network rails tactics that doesn’t fit them owning certain bits of land. But it’ll be very challenging, and especially time consuming for anyone new to your channel, when confronted with the number of uploads. How will they know which ones are key and which ones background. I fear many potential supporters will just move on to the next cat video. Once you’ve uploaded all the background stuff, maybe consider a summary video to convey things and then occasional updates. If done well, viewers can then decide if they want to watch the more detailed stuff. Most probably just want this sorted out in court asap.
@raylp47513 ай бұрын
@@LizAltnabreac-u8h Krikey something you do a lot of is Speculating. Making scenarios up. A lot ends up as self fulfilling prophesy rather than fact. This proves nothing and to be fair is airing on mental health issues. How do I know. I reckognise the traits. Been there senn it and have the Badge. Last 10yrs worked in goverment . A good part of my job was investigating gathering evidence and making g a decision. But making assumptions and then pushing to get to point where I could argue I was correct. Only for decision to be overturned on appeal. I had help and got past it.
@Rockall573 ай бұрын
Rubbish..it's not just a land owner issue..this is actually highly complex..
@derekemberton38133 ай бұрын
@@Rockall57 yes, the landfill is an issue too, but perhaps should be kept separate
@graemejoyce56293 ай бұрын
I left a link to surrvey overlay on my channel for you in your "white strip.." post. YT made it small.. but readable. Better, full size is available.
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
What do you think your survey concludes? what information do we get from it in your opinion? Thanks
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
Also I noticed the boundary on the Western side is not accurate and does not depict our current boundary. Thanks
@graemejoyce56293 ай бұрын
The boundary lines etc. are from Scottish land records drawing.. I didn't draw any lines, just overlaid their drawing on satellite image.. some distortions will be present. There will be a multitude of properties where boundaries have been moved, e.g. a fence to a building wall, etc..or where GIS information may have missing changes that were not recorded. Sorry the image was not of any assistance to you. Odd that NR did not peg the boundaries (I saw that they claimed to have had a survey .. doubt it. I see no glowing markers).. Seems NR is using financial diplomacy.. knowing most public cannot afford any challenge. Not being a dispute between just 2 prolerty owners, but involving public property, it is a shame the council does not do a full, open, survey.
@Rockall573 ай бұрын
@@graemejoyce5629did you get any information from the Sasine Register if not.... To access the Sasine Register online, you can use the Registers of Scotland's online service called Registers Direct. This service allows users to search both the Land and Sasine Registers electronically You need to register for an account to use this service, which is primarily aimed at frequent users For one-off access, it's recommended to contact Registers of Scotland's customer service centers directly Additionally, the National Records of Scotland provides digital images of the Sasine Register documents in their search rooms
@jamesturner772820 күн бұрын
does the railway pay for police servises
@anthonywood70523 ай бұрын
I think there lawyers messed up when they sold the land and thought they would only need foot access . You have the right to defend your right not to have your property damaged as a land owner its amazing how many people think they can do whatever they want on your property but when the boot is on the other foot they are the aggressive ones Hope you get it resolved
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@cluckgould29543 ай бұрын
I'm probably a bit late to all of this but it does seem to me like they are just wondering around your garden doing whatever they want. Is this correct? I would absolutely hate that if I was out anything could be happening in my garden etc
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
You would be correct. They had no right to be on our land without our permission and the BTP undertook a search of our land without a warrant. That is our front garden.
@Ireallydontknow85813 ай бұрын
This couple claim to own the solum, ie the land structures, so not the platform, this is a live railway/railway station so not their garden
@Ireallydontknow85813 ай бұрын
I do not think for 1 minute that they own the platform as it is outside of their boundary. If they did own the solum (not the land) it still contains a live railway. The plot of land my house is built on, extends to the middle of the road in front of the house, however it is still a footpath and road, I can't say people need permission to walk on the footpath!!
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
@@Ireallydontknow8581 What you 'think' is irrelevant 😃What you 'think' is not evidence!
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
@@Ireallydontknow8581 The area of land is our garden. It's our land, not NR's land. If they want to use it as a platform again, they need our permission. Very, very simple. The station could have been re-opened a long time ago if NR did things the right way instead of falsely claiming to own land they do not.
@flyboy57363 ай бұрын
They found them in the “shed”, who put them in the shed? That is to say who dismantled (interfered?) with the railway property?
@ebxo2693 ай бұрын
Could have been the last owner of the property, and who does that shed belong too,??? as he demolished all of thier building's
@flyboy57363 ай бұрын
@@ebxo269 According to a video on gone-in-60-seconds channel the signs etc were in place in September 2023.
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
@flyboy5736 The BTP were satisfied, will you ever be?
@flyboy57363 ай бұрын
@@ALTNABREAC You certainly seem unlikely to ever be.
@AnthonyHerron-pi4lz3 ай бұрын
@@flyboy5736troll
@ibilly993 ай бұрын
You are being driven mad.
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
No, we are of sound mind 😃We will continue to publish truth and this rustles a lot of feathers when they get proved wrong every time!
@pepelemoko28203 ай бұрын
Surely the police should arrive upon an emergency call, as opposed to pre arranging an escort?
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
They are NWR and Scotrail's personal security guards and only represent their interests. They have no impartiality whatsoever.
@spotcatsteve37523 ай бұрын
I bet the outcall rates for escorts are high in that region 😂
@pepelemoko28203 ай бұрын
@@spotcatsteve3752 Hehehehe
@to_baldly_go3 ай бұрын
Why not just go to court and get it sorted? Not sure how making videos for others to watch fixes the problem. Even if NR are 100% in the wrong there's nothing a video can do. What is your end goal here? What is the ideal outcome for you?
@markgc653 ай бұрын
Many civil courts have a 19 month back log and barrister /Lega fees can be £40k + on a complex case like this! Its never as easy as people think!
@johnwitte5512 ай бұрын
ahh the walk of ignonimanity
@paulbelsey71113 ай бұрын
The Noddy police don't have anything to do so this is their exciting outing of the week.
@jcjc11213 ай бұрын
If there is station property that has been vandlised, it would be entirely within police business to look at it. This video literally shows bits and pieces of signs no longer standing being picked up by the rail workers. But what we don't know is how everything came to be removed or smashed up, like the missing bench, cycle rack, station signs and a large gate that used to seperate the station platform from the vehicle track.
@dianawoodall98973 ай бұрын
@jcjc1121 never seen any of the items on camera from the start.
@davidmackay-gk8sv3 ай бұрын
This is getting a bit boring now. All I can say is up until the recent owners arrived there has never been any problem with access to and from the station for pedestrians and railworkers. Is this just a typical NIMBAY situation.
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
It is commonly known that there was a land dispute and problems with access, it's even documented online through a freedom of information act document. I think you mean 'Nimby'
@pdxxtqhf2 ай бұрын
I see they brought their wholly owned security company with them.
@Richard_Barnes3 ай бұрын
I find this video title a bit misleading. They actually went looking for their stuff on their platform inside of their platform building or whatever. You don't own those. Plus I do think if you feel you have to prove every single point when questioned then you'll drive yourselves mad. This really was a non-issue as they came for their own gear so........
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
It is not at all misleading. Nothing was ever missing, it was there all along. This was definitely an issue because yet again, the rail companies were using BTP to harass us to try and get us arrested but they discovered nothing was missing so their plan failed. The BTP officers acted unlawfully by entering our private land to undertake a search for 'missing assets' without a warrant. This is harassment and if you cannot see that, that is a shame. IT IS A CIVIL MATTER, not for BTP to be involved in!
@garypreen31753 ай бұрын
However they walked through somewhere they had no right too i think thats the point
@robertwren88783 ай бұрын
Yes but on his land his driveway to a station which isnt a station and havent disclosed their intentions where i come from its called courtesy but theirs more to this than meets the eye. If someone was bullying you or your family what would you do?
@captainnutnut60773 ай бұрын
@garypreen3175 I think you're spot on. I can see what the OP is saying, but I also see what you're saying. It's very difficult, but I'm with them all the way in the fight.
@TheScottishSprayer3 ай бұрын
Read the description then.
@darrylwigginton10672 ай бұрын
Did they ask permission to come onto your land to do this?
@staffordian3 ай бұрын
You believe you own the station platform then? And is your plan to make Network Rail close the station, or is it to hold them to ransom in some way?
@MartynBrain2 ай бұрын
Would you want network rail coming into your back yard and remove anything that was there when you bought your house idiot
@mavisspearhead17422 ай бұрын
Omg..... Why not start way back to the very beginning of ALL the videos.. Therefore you will have all the story and no doubt more questions. .At least you will ask sensible questions rather than dumb ones.. And please don't forget to press the like button on your way through.. Peace
@staffordian2 ай бұрын
@@mavisspearhead1742Very helpful and constructive comment. They don't need enemies with friends like you
@PJRayment2 ай бұрын
@@staffordian "Very helpful and constructive comment." Like yours? Suggesting that their plan is to make the station close or hold them to ransom? That's a derogatory suggestion about them. I find it hard to accept that they own the platform itself, and I disagree with the way that they've tongue-lashed the police and workers, but they've made it quite clear that they want the station to remain open and for people to have access to it.
@staffordian2 ай бұрын
@@PJRaymentExcept they seem to have done nothing constructive towards that end. Actions speak far louder than words, but all we seem to get is lots of words. I've yet to see or hear anything from them which could resolve this impasse. It's all poor old us being victimised by big bad Network Rail when all NR want is a safe station.
@robertwoodcock71072 ай бұрын
I fully understand what you are fighting for but why should you expect others to fund it and if you have any money left over from the go fund me what do you intend to do with it
@R1200GSEZM3 ай бұрын
So the assault was assisted by the police?
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
Their personal security force with the powers of arrest.
@radleysmith75283 ай бұрын
When's the Turnpike gonna be installed
@bowlingmondeoman2 ай бұрын
0:29 I thought only Russia and Israel stole other peoples land
@jamesmoore98703 ай бұрын
Congratulations, looks to me like you are going to be upseting a local community plus people who use the station as a starting/ending point for country side walks by getting the station permanently closed. The station was probably there long before your house was built.
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
The station is still not open because NWR and Scotrail are behaving appallingly in this dispute rather than dealing with matters lawfully. The locals should be venting their frustrations towards them, not us. We were the main users of the station!
@johnmurphy48143 ай бұрын
You haven't been paying attention, have you. NR shut the whole thing down, the new owners want the whole thing to be dealt with, including re-opening the station but with some respect for the home they have paid for after NR decided not to bother with it. This whole thing is a civil dispute, not a criminal one, but NR keep sending police officers, whose job involves criminal law, without warrants, to make civil law judgements. This is abuse of power. If NR had a case, they have a full legal team & should obtain lawful judgements which could then lead to police involvement. The question is why NR have been so reticent to get an injunction - at which point, if they won, they could sue for costs. Yet they don't. Instead they throw their weight around, which settles nothing. Challenges have been made which NR simply ignores. If my neighbours impinge on my property, I take them to court & hammer out the details. Something is wrong when a corporation doesn't defend its position in a court of law.
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
@@johnmurphy4814 You are exactly right. NWR could not go to civil court to get an injunction against us because they know they cannot prove they own the land. That is why they have been using the BTP to harass us and they are abusing the criminal process to deal with what is a civil matter because they know they have no civil recourse. Thank you for your support and great comment that sees the truth of what is really happening here.
@robertwren88783 ай бұрын
@J well said that man! Must be a Labour voter! You can get a bus pass if your a pensioner but not a train,what a comment eh? But logging can!
@Rockall573 ай бұрын
It's not a station it's a halt, 2nd nothing stopping anyone to use it in any way today, it's NR problem, not the owners of the land why it's not in operation. Network Rail is a Bureaucratic hegemon with layers of useless Kafkaesque nonsensical management..non speak to eachother..there is poor corporate leadership and on the ground miss communication and multiple of task duplication.
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
Hopefully people watching this video will notice something very significant - this video is dated 24/07/24 and shows that these workers left their vehicles parked well away from the cattlegrid and our driveway and walked in to move heavy signage. Ask yourself this question: if NWR did own our driveway like they are claiming and had a right to access it with their vehicles, heavy plant and machinery like they did 2 weeks ago, why didn't they move the chain that day and drive on to move the signage and other property?????? So they didn't own our driveway on 24/07/24 but did on 10/09/24 two weeks ago! Another massive discrepancy in NWR's story.
@Rockall573 ай бұрын
Not yet, but they now are on notice that they could have to pay you £100K plus in compensation..so they have changed thier modus operandi.. They must of sort better legal council and found thier believe to be less sound. If not they 100% would of come with Police Scotland with a warrant to right of access if you still objected to vehicle access they would of charged you with "aggravated trespass" a criminal charge. But they did so the sun is shinning..and your on your way to a big pay out..😂
@douglascunningham89713 ай бұрын
more crap from you .what is the problem with you .the workers did nothing wrong all they did was collect whatever they collected .did they act incorrectly .NO . so why put the filming on here .get a life and stop putting NWR in a bad light .you need to stop and think what a fool you make yourself look .or even better explain. what you want from NWR .there was never any issue before you arrived .
@douglascunningham89713 ай бұрын
@@LizAltnabreac-u8h they would not have used THE driveway as more than likely told by there boss just to park there van and walk in to stop you complaining about them ..
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
@@douglascunningham8971 No, they did not use the driveway because they know they do not OWN it and have no right to. That's the logical and true explanation.
@daveherd68643 ай бұрын
Sums it up realy if you think about it
@sallystevenson67123 ай бұрын
July?
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
Yes that's correct. We uploaded due to false allegations being made.
@sallystevenson67123 ай бұрын
@@ALTNABREAC Ok fair point😉
@sallystevenson67123 ай бұрын
@@ALTNABREAC OK fair point😉
@jeffkeating89943 ай бұрын
As stated before by your wife .They are not surveyors or hold any qualification determining land boundaries .Surely the rail companies will have their own people to carry out this procedure .I for 1 wouldnt allow this .I wouldve pulled up the grid .And please do charge them with trespass if they are in the end trespassing as they will do it to someone else
@Rockall573 ай бұрын
Why pull up the grid.. it's there right of access..if NR is found using track, grid, pathway etc etc illegally then they must pay compensation. No don't block access thats completely the wrong thing to do in Scotland.. They could put a lockable gate on the grid thats reasonable.
@idlewise3 ай бұрын
I think the cattle grid is owned by the forest people
@andrewgilbertson53563 ай бұрын
Good Luck
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@Jim-u9r3 ай бұрын
Police have to be there when dealing with this type of LAND owner, glad they never bought a house on the nc 500. We would have no tourists!!!
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
What type of landowner? One that knows their legal rights and will not allow NWR to take their land from them!
@robertwren88783 ай бұрын
And has never threatened them or swore at them!
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
Yes the Highland Council helped you with the motorhome NC500 charges didn't they?
@supercharged39753 ай бұрын
Mr judgemental or just mental in general
@glenmcmurtrie55683 ай бұрын
What is wrong with you
@viking563792 ай бұрын
How much have you made from these videos typical southern English English English
@DJRyanJamesUK3 ай бұрын
Sorry you do not own the Platform regardless of your paperwork says...not a chance in hell
@garymills74943 ай бұрын
This is an awful situation to be in. SR/ NR have access to massively expensive legal resources and you are trying your best to deal with them. Maybe their legal people messed up when they sold off whatever land and now they are trying to recover the situation. Trying to fight them legally is pointless. Surely there must be some common ground between you that can be used to come to some agreement somehow.
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
We've always been willing make an agreement, but Network Rail threatened to have arrested and just try and take what is ours.
@garymills74943 ай бұрын
@@ALTNABREAC Hi, as they seem to be very aggressive, maybe they have something to hide. It could be that their legal people messed up when they originally sold the land. I suggest carefully reviewing the legal documents again to see where the opportunity is to close this off. You do not want a fight with them - I do not know the right answer. Perhaps there is another way around this awful situation.
@FaganRoche3 ай бұрын
Old video then
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
Yes, we decided to release this video to shut down false allegations that the Gone in Sixty Seconds Channel and others are putting out against us falsely alleging we stole the items from the platform.
@forestdad3 ай бұрын
@@LizAltnabreac-u8h OMG Have you been trawling through old cctv footage for this proof? You two need help 🤣
@LizAltnabreac-u8h3 ай бұрын
@@forestdad No, we knew exactly where our evidence was and didn't need to 'trawl' through anything. You have to be organised and have your paper in order when you're dealing with corporate bullies and police who abuse their police powers. It's called gathering evidence!
@Rockall573 ай бұрын
What are these signs, how and when did they get into the shed. Who's the owner of the shed. Is it on the deeds. Did NR ask permission to use the shed, was rent paid, 1000 new question to be asked just on this shed!!😂
@Ireallydontknow85813 ай бұрын
The shed is the railway waiting room, on the railway platform. These 2 claim they own the solum ie the land under the surface, but even if that were true, that doesn't include the platform or any other of the railway equipment. This is a working railway station /line hence the need for BTP.
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
This video was back before then. We uploaded just to refute the constant false allegations being made
@ronymell3 ай бұрын
Police back up , what a joke !!!! Also shouldn’t they use the path they’ve installed !!
@dianawoodall98973 ай бұрын
That's what I thought, think they are doing it to wind them up hence police officer being there.
@donmcgee20812 ай бұрын
This was 2 months earlier.
@tdc27563 ай бұрын
Im sorry i though i was watching something that had just happened, than i see the timestamp, its a couple of months old, I am confused about what the current situation is, not to worry,
@Streamer6873 ай бұрын
It seems to be the way nowadays to keep things in the Public eye?(Rehash the HELL outta it over and over)
@17snooker3 ай бұрын
Wow, they someone to hold there hands
@scrappystocks3 ай бұрын
Why are the BTP even present? Their interest in what is a civil matter should only be in a neutral capacity to ensure that there is no breach of the peace in an area where they have some jurisdiction. To my knowledge there has never been any previous evidence or threats of this during previous visits. What a waste of police time and money. Clearly two police officers have little else to do but stand around doing nothing.
@Ireallydontknow85813 ай бұрын
As they said investigating possible theft. Looking at older videos of the station, things seem to have moved, hedge, gate, bike rack, & other station furniture
@javelinXH9923 ай бұрын
The couple who live here have a court edict not to interfere with Network Rail work or staff going about that work. The police turn up to make sure that is followed.
@Steve-lb9qk3 ай бұрын
Where do you stand on Palestine/Israel? This situation has similarities? Keep calm and get a drone. My humour is often dark.😮
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
Everyone has a right to peaceably enjoy their own land
@Rockall573 ай бұрын
@@ALTNABREACunlike you and the Palestinians!
@richardlindsay24963 ай бұрын
Why didn’t they use the recently installed access path? There is also what appears to be road access almost to the south end of a platform, is there a reason that this isn’t used?
@javelinXH9923 ай бұрын
The video was taken in July 2024. The path was not installed then.
@dave48033 ай бұрын
You need to give them some trouble back. Maybe claim something of yours has gone missing or been damaged?
@Rockall573 ай бұрын
No don't do that FFS..
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
I can guarantee they couldn't care less about anything to do with me and Liz, they are completely biased. Did you see the video where the police threatened me with arrest for being on my own driveway, and if I tried to prevent Network Rail from cutting the locks and chains off our entrance, the police said they would arrest me for 'Intimidation' and 'Aggravated Trespass'?
@dave48033 ай бұрын
@@ALTNABREAC I saw that, the police should be ashamed.
@ebxo2693 ай бұрын
Why were the police there, was it to intimidate you,, did they really need to attend... as there was no threat to anyone , and no hinderance,.
@jcjc11213 ай бұрын
Maybe they were there to witness all the mysterious damage to the station equipment? Somethings had a go at it because there were several signs, a bench, cycle rack, waste bin, and a large gate seperating the platform all no longer where they were. The video shows a worker picking up what looks like bits and pieces of signs no longer standing. Instead of helping anyone understand how the station fell into this state all this video presents is the aftermath.
@andrewcoates66413 ай бұрын
@@jcjc1121also noticed that the NR staff didn’t carry away the sign which was attached to the two posts that had obviously been set in concrete, although the NR staff did pick the assembled sign and posts up and move them around slightly, why did they leave the piece of equipment behind, to give themselves a reason to return another day in order to harass the couple yet again?!?
@jcjc11213 ай бұрын
@@andrewcoates6641 Fair point no I don't know why they didn't take all the bits away there and then, but equally I find it challenging to think of rail workers and transport police attending to business at a railway station as harrassment. Stations attract rail workers, and unexplained damage to stations attracts rail workers and police.
@ALTNABREAC3 ай бұрын
Obviously Scotrail, Network and the BTP had no issues. So your false accusations are unfounded. Stop behaving like a demon possessed lunatic
@zerocompanyhq3 ай бұрын
My suspicion: They were collecting evidence. 👃🏼👃🏼 🦺🦺🦺 I can't imagine that the items they were collecting would have had any value otherwise. And if so, all without a warrant. Are ScotRail using BTP as private security? Or are BTP using ScotRail as cover for a surveillance operation? 🤔 P.S. Is there any cctv footage of "their property" being taken down? 🎦🎥