Shotgun Hunting Round Payload Weight Explained.

Let's take a scientific look at some turkey hunting rounds! We are focusing on the total payload weight. Payload weight is what every round is built on!
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Still got you and your family in my prayers. Love your videos

[@BubbaRountreeOutdoors]

thanks Steve...

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[@ForgetU]

Nice job explaining the process for payload weight.

[@johnhunter287]

I've been reloading for decades and have learned payload is payload. Be it 1 oz. or whatever. As long as you don't overload it will fly. Great video

[@darkwinters9452]

What about slugs payload ??

[@stevemccrea9419]

I don’t reload my ammo but love the knowledge I get from Wade

[@maxpinson5002]

I usually put down an old cloth fender cover or a towel on the bench to keep hold of my "gotaways" like shot or the tiny 22 cal projectiles when loading. Round shot and such usually won't bounce and roll away. Thanks for the video and for sharing the information

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[@shadowcastre]

As always I appreciate the information and effort put forth in your videos! I agree with you 100% that when going from birdshot to buckshot, round ball, or slugs that it is safe to follow payload weight (the same or less) as the pressures will decrease. However... The reverse is not always true. When replacing buckshot or slugs with birdshot, the pressures generally increase do to the shape, fluidity, and density of the birdshot. If loads are already at or near maximum... this can create dangerous over pressures. If you like, I can give you a link to a short video showing this and how it was tested? Thanks for the video...

[@johnanderson186]

Absolutely true!!

[@CarlPapa88]

That definitely simplifies it well. 👍

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That's really good SHTF information as well!

[@BubbaRountreeOutdoors]

yessir!!

[@DRandolphOutdoors1]

An ounce is an ounce is an ounce so long as the shot material used is the same as what the data calls for. I have a very good patterning load that I used 1.5 ounce lead data for out of the Lyman #5 manual. Straight wall hull, winchester (or cheddite) primer, blue dot with a thin over shot card, a CB1138 wad and BP #47 buffer. With the nickel plated 4 buck I have, 32 pellets=1.5 ounces and with a Trulock predator choke (.670) in my Mossberg 930 I am getting 28 of 32 on a piece of poster board at 45 yards, plenty for the predator hunting we do in the thick stuff.

[@shadowcastre]

Dkgoutdours... Not always...

[@DRandolphOutdoors1]

@@shadowcastre I thought I specified lead, but I see now I didn’t.

[@shadowcastre]

@@DRandolphOutdoors1 Shot data/shells to buckshot, slugs or round ball is safe to do by payload weight. Buckshot, slug data/shells to birdshot is not always safe to do by payload weight.

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Thank you for the good content. This video clears all questions up.

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Great video. Good info. Reloading is so much fun. A lee load all in a good starting tool. Peace and love to you brother.

[@BubbaRountreeOutdoors]

my pleasure John!

[@kevinhines2588]

Thanks for that great explanation!

[@NWAAdventures]

Excellent information. Already putting it into use.

[@DummyRound]

Great presentation, sir. 🇺🇸👊👍

[@mrfancypanzer549]

I saw someone made a video about payload weight, he pressure tested bird shot and buckshot loads of the same weight, turns out buckshot loads had lower pressure for the same powder weight and shot weight, guess the buckshot had less friction going down the barrel because it had less surface area.

[@shadowcastre]

Mrfancypanzer... Correct... Birdshot to buck, slugs, and round ball = lower pressure. Buck, slugs, RB to birdshot generally raises pressure and could be dangerous.

[@jeremiah7855]

Thanks been looking for a video like this

[@michaeldunn150]

great video.. I always thought the same payload weight was the same for everything....

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For the California folks ball bearings will work. Tempered Harden steel.

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Thank you for the information

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Thank you

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[@scottmcclure1196]

Wade, just to make sure I understand you correctly, as long as the payload weight, regardless of shot type i.e. lead, steel, tungsten etc. has the same payload weight you can use it interchangeably. If this is the case, then why all the secrecy/enigma when it comes to load data surrounding tungsten loads?

[@BubbaRountreeOutdoors]

Hey Scott... yeah! That's pretty well how it works.

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👍👍some good information

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[@BubbaRountreeOutdoors]

we're doing well brother... it's great to be busy again!

[@johnbarrett7534]

So is it safe to assume I can change buckshot size in a shell if load weight is the same? Example: put #4 buck in a load that calls for #1. Thank you.

[@danmayes4657]

Just err on the lighter side.

[@BubbaRountreeOutdoors]

correct! as long as the payload weight is the same then shot size doesn't matter.

[@CarlPapa88]

​@@BubbaRountreeOutdoorsWould one need to adjust, with an overshot card under the shot to account for volume differences when swapping #00 for #4 then?

[@BubbaRountreeOutdoors]

@@CarlPapa88 if necessary, Yes. that's the way I do it!

[@catkillerify]

What if you replace the shot with a lighter payload?

[@BubbaRountreeOutdoors]

going slightly lighter with the payload is fine.

[@brandoncook2461]

so when you added the felt wad to take up space in the wad. would that be considered part of the payload?

[@BubbaRountreeOutdoors]

yes!

[@brandoncook2461]

ok thanks just really getting into reloading. thanks for the info

[@benathens3294]

I wonder how an 1 7/8 ounces of number 9 TSS would fit in there?

[@BubbaRountreeOutdoors]

It should work fine!

[@matt7363]

How much will changing shot size effect pressures?

[@BubbaRountreeOutdoors]

In theory; not enough to worry about! Most reload manuals don't even mention shot size, it only mentions Payload weight.

[@matt7363]

Ok thanks. I’m just coming into the handloading and casting world. I enjoyed your vid on making wheel weights into ingots.

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[@mostlikelywedoitservices6926]

Bubba so if powder goes in then shot card then wad and pay load. Do we need to make any new calculations for the shot card being in the mix other than height? What about pressure?

[@BubbaRountreeOutdoors]

the over-powder cards only keep the powder under the wad. It does effect the shot column height slightly so, you may have to adjust for that variable.

[@mostlikelywedoitservices6926]

Bubba, so anything in the wad above the gunpowder minus wad weight is the payload weight. If I am clearly understanding your instruction. Is this correct?

[@BubbaRountreeOutdoors]

yessir! You got it!