Buchla/Tiptop Audio 292T Quad Lopass Gate

[@CinematicLaboratory]

I just learned from TipTop Audio that it took two years to develop the vactrols and only 10% makes it to the back of the module. Respect...

[@bobbfett.musiclab]

❤beads, I really like the red mode, the fluffy distortion is beautiful into reverb. Great set and amazing demo of vactrols.

[@TheMachinesWon]

Agreed, when I heard red mode, I sold my clouds that day--so happy with Beads!

[@Nanotopia]

Oooh I sure hope & cross my fingers TipTop recreate the 227e!! For their 207t I wonder why they didn’t go with 2 Left & Right outputs like the original Buchla module?

[@Mahakit]

Nice set

[@Hessencemusic]

One of the most interesting videos from you. Amazing work out of these modules. The result is pretty close to the original. I wonder where or how are “the differences” to the original buchla modules far more expensive

[@CinematicLaboratory]

I am not sure about quality, but the Tiptops also carry the Buchla name and they would never do that if the modules did not do justice to the originals. I think the Buchla originals are more expensive because of the small market and the cost of producing limited numbers of the old models. Not to mention the 200E series which is years ahead of eurorack. Again I am just speculating, but I can imagine high costs that need to be covered by less modules.

[@geusensdriesmusic]

Sounding nice! To get log/exp curves from the 281t, mult the output with a stackcable back into the rise or fall (or both) cv input. You'll get more control when first patching into the 257t before the rise/fall cv input.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

I was also thinking about something like that, thanks for the comment and I will experiment with a Mordax Data near. To be continued!

[@jasoneskridge6453]

@@CinematicLaboratorya more clear example is shown here kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHPUdmltas2brLs

[@mickwiese3819]

I bought my 292t in Canada to avoid the cadmium free version. As a former Easel owner I couldn't be happier

[@nystada]

You’ve ordered from EU? With customs?

[@mickwiese3819]

yes, I bought it from Nightlife electronics. It arrived within 5 days@@nystada

[@CinematicLaboratory]

@@nystadaI think you can take the risk of ordering from the EU. Customs can't see what's in the box and I bet they don't know what a vactrol is (yet). This may change...

[@AndreiChivu47]

I ordered one from US some time ago and it arrived fine. I live in the UK

[@walrtbstudios5430]

The prohibition of the 292t annoys me rather. It seems that here in the UK I can buy vactrols that were (presumably) already here before the ban (I have a few scattered around the rack) but we cannot import any additional ones. It not as though I’m going to eat them. And how will I assemble my Buchla 2xx row?

[@paddymulcahy5585]

my 292t is being hand delivered from Tokyo with the help of some friends...p.s TTA/Buchla are currently working on a 259t.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

I agreed to keep that a secret so I can neither confirm or deny it. But my 259 video series will get a new episode one day :).

[@clusterchord1]

@@CinematicLaboratory hi, can you possibly share if indeed they release 259t, will it include vactrols too, since original Buchla 259 uses eight of them ? considering legal issues that made TTA resort to two different versions of 292t, and the fact they also avoided using them in 266t (even tho original uses four), i speculate 259t might be another module where they will stray from the original circuit. PS wonderful, very musical demo. as always.

[@CinematicLaboratory]

@@clusterchord1 I am not sure, I only heard rumours. They have to convert to Eurorack anyway, the original circuit is not compatible. Also, some parts of the original designs were never finished (autotune) and it may be added. My educated guess is that a 259T will not have vactrols because it's not sustainable. The MakeNoise DPO only has one for the strike input, the Furthrrrr Generator has none. Also, the modern Buchla 259E doesn't have vactrols either.

[@jonathanjenkins8630]

Nice video and sounds. I’ve not heard of the vactrol import problem before. And presumably Buchla use vactrols, so why did TipTop need to develop different ones?

[@CinematicLaboratory]

Simply because the stock of original Vactec vactrols used by MakeNoise and Buchla are depleted. I saw a set of original vactrols on Reverb priced totally unreasonably.

[@Nanotopia]

🤩

[@toslinked]

are there any news about a vactrol free version for europe?

[@CinematicLaboratory]

My dealer has 'end of year' on his website, but I wouldn't count on it. I'd recommend taking a bit of risk and importing one from a non EU country or 'second hand' from someone who already got one or two. Regardless I am sure they will come up with something that deserves to be branded as Buchla.

[@baslespatches1083]

Nice but is it as a QMMG ?

[@CinematicLaboratory]

I'd say yes. The QMMG was heavily inspired by the original 292 so both have a lot in common. However, the QMMG adds a high pass filter to the modes, and the filters also have a vactrol for resonance response. So it's quad multi-mode vs quad low pass. In every day patching the difference is pretty small because the QMMG resonance is super 'hot' and 'acid'. It's fun for an occasional patch, but not for every patch.

[@TheMachinesWon]

Lovely video, all this is giving me buchla gas though...(and I don't have time or room)

[@CinematicLaboratory]

I feel you, but it doesn't help.

[@TheMachinesWon]

@@CinematicLaboratory 🤣💯

[@robert-wr6md]

Pollocks.😀