Buddhism Meets Ai: Chomsky’s Take on the Conscious Mind

Noam Chomsky is a philosopher and linguist who pioneered the concept of Universal Grammar. Sponsors:
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:50 Artificially intelligence "world government"
00:06:23 Introspection for self-knowledge (limits and power)
00:09:02 Buddhism and Taoism (for language) + suffering
00:09:54 Will humans survive?
00:10:44 What progress has been made in the study of language rules
00:13:02 Recursive "merge"
00:26:08 Dolphin and sperm whale languages (complexity measure?)
00:29:32 Philosophy of science
00:32:54 Symbol grounding problem and grounding moral philosophy
00:41:20 "Science is like a drunk at a lamppost"
00:42:36 Mind-body problem is misconceived
00:51:21 Sabine Hossenfelder on "ChatGPT Understands Language"
00:55:00 Modern language models refute Chomsky's approach to language
00:58:56 Bare phrase structure theory (inclusiveness condition)
01:01:09 Intentionality and Searle's Chinese Room Experiment
01:05:45 Generative grammar and metaphysics (Langan's CTMU)
01:07:52 Consciousness creating reality?
01:11:59 Does Universal Grammar hold up to "Bayesian modeling"?
01:13:28 AGI Scaring Chomsky
01:14:56 Linguistic successors of Chomsky
01:16:11 Human language capacity vs. arithmetical capacity (is it related?)
01:20:23 "You can't know anything for certain" and Nihilism

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Timestamps and Sponsors: - MyHeritage: Buy a DNA kit here: bit.ly/TOE_MH Use the coupon code TOE for free shipping. As an added bonus, you can start a 30-day free trial of MyHeritage's best subscription for family history research - and enjoy a 50% discount if you decide to continue it. - Masterworks: Skip the waitlist and invest in blue-chip art for the very first time by signing up for Masterworks www.masterworks.art/theoriesofeverything. Purchase shares in great masterpieces from artists like Pablo Picasso, Banksy, Andy Warhol, and more. See important Masterworks disclosures: www.masterworks.com/cd 00:00:00 Introduction 00:02:50 Artificially intelligence "world government" 00:06:23 Introspection for self-knowledge (limits and power) 00:09:02 Buddhism and Taoism (for language) + suffering 00:09:54 Will humans survive? 00:10:44 What progress has been made in the study of language rules 00:13:02 Recursive "merge" 00:26:08 Dolphin and sperm whale languages (complexity measure?) 00:29:32 Philosophy of science 00:32:54 Symbol grounding problem and grounding moral philosophy 00:41:20 "Science is like a drunk at a lamppost" 00:42:36 Mind-body problem is misconceived 00:51:21 Sabine Hossenfelder on "ChatGPT Understands Language" 00:55:00 Modern language models refute Chomsky's approach to language 00:58:56 Bare phrase structure theory (inclusiveness condition) 01:01:09 Intentionality and Searle's Chinese Room Experiment 01:05:45 Generative grammar and metaphysics (Langan's CTMU) 01:07:52 Consciousness creating reality? 01:11:59 Does Universal Grammar hold up to "Bayesian modeling"? 01:13:28 AGI Scaring Chomsky 01:14:56 Linguistic successors of Chomsky 01:16:11 Human language capacity vs. arithmetical capacity (is it related?) 01:20:23 "You can't know anything for certain" and Nihilism

[@jakubgadzala7474]

Thanks for having a pedo again.

[@smlanka4u]

Suffering comes from greed called Lobha. Not from non-greedy desire called Chanda. Desire associates with greed only if desire is associated with attachment (called Raaga in Pali).

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

I spent a couple years reading and studying Noam Chomsky back around 1995-6 and then I quoted and used Noam Chomsky for my policy activism work at University of Minnesota - Twin Cities. I then included Noam Chomsky in my master's thesis and I received a nice long reply from Noam Chomsky in 2001. I saved his email reply and I post it into youtube comments because he's a prominent public figure - a public intellectual. I don't agree with everything Noam Chomsky says but most of it. hahaha. In fact Noam Chomsky's latest statements have emphasized Music as a probable origin of human language - and this is what I have emphasized to him also. My latest email reply I received from Chomsky said that he wished he had the time to study noncommutativity.

[@canonaler]

I swear, so many people are sleeping on this channel and are unaware of how much value such discussions brings to the world...youre so underrated Kurt, but you will blow soon!

[@TamelaJC]

Blow-up

[@marcc16]

Quarter million subs isn’t considered “blowing up” anymore?

[@connectingupthedots]

It's a good channel but he has a lot of shallow guests like Bernardo Kastrup and various others with silly theories of reality that are just descriptive and a waste of time; either bring a model with a testable hypothesis or a interpretation of history that offers some insight into the current problem not a useless tautology.

[@goldwhitedragon]

​@@connectingupthedotsreality is a supertautology.

[@noam65]

​@@connectingupthedots, if you're only interested in materialism, this is the wrong channel for you. Both mathematics and philosophy have vast areas unrelated to materialism. Our grasp of physical sciences is really only a few hundred years old. If our knowledge base survived into the far future, 10,000 years from now, it would barely be recognized.

[@hectorhernandez7389]

Brings a tear to my eye seeing Chomsky this old and still fighting. We need to carry the fight on for him.

[@jakubgadzala7474]

Brings tears to my eyes that you havent meet his pedo buddies...

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

He never fought for anything.

[@fabiengerard8142]

🙏🏻♥️🙏🏽♥️🙏 the ‘’Modern Socrates’’

[@ericpmoss]

@@jakubgadzala7474 Go troll somewhere else.

[@ericpmoss]

@@NeverTalkToCops1 So tell us all the fighting you've done, and why what Chomsky has done is supposedly irrelevant.

[@bushrodlake2751]

Chomsky's mind at 90 plus, is simply amazing. I speak as an octogenarian with some experience in mental challenges. As an ex-math teacher on the secondary level, I'd recommend George Lakoff's book titled Where Mathematics Comes From (Hint: metaphors) that reinforces Chomsky's theory that it's an offshoot of language "faculty". Amazing, amazing person. He could still make mistakes, of course.

[@freelywheely]

The Chomsky documentary, Manufacturing Consent, should be mandatory viewing in every high school curriculum. It opened my eyes to Noam and understanding media propaganda.

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

Seems more eyes remain shut, Chomsky failed with that work, as he has with almost all of his erudite nonsense.

[@fabiengerard8142]

I happened to read the original book some thirty years ago, and still do keep regularly getting back to it. That very reading changed my entire world view for ever, just like the sort of initial enlightenment I’d already experienced more than a decade prior, around age 15, when being taught Plato’s ‘’Allegory of the Cave’’. Noam’s irreplaceable lucidity and sharpness of thought, coupled with such a genuine humility, are a unique treasure for humankind.

[@PenelopeHargreeves]

It radicalized me. His takes on covid and voting for Biden have been hugely disappointing

[@PiperPurdon]

When I went to hear Chomsky I recall feeling my mind literally expand - I was exhausted for days lol 😂 Seriously, this man has a depth of knowledge that’s extraordinary and quite literally mind bending

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Word

[@renzo6490]

Not “literally “

[@YourTripleScorpio]

Possibly literally?

[@regbhyyu]

Can you please do another one? This is for eternity!! Pleaaaaaase. He is always talking about politics, and these are one of the few interviews where he’s actually talking about other things, and this is such a valuable service to humanity.

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Thank you so much. I've spoken to Noam Chomsky about nine times actually. kzbin.info/aero/PLZ7ikzmc6zlORiRfcaQe8ZdxKxF-e2BCY Browse the titles and see which appeals to you most. - Curt

[@heinzgassner1057]

According to my experience of Buddhism, suffering and desire need to be seen a lot more differentiated. Buddhism differentiates between 1) Suffering from suffering (that what Noam referred to), 2) Suffering of not getting what we desire, 3) Suffering of fearing to loose what we desired and finally got - and the subtle one, 4) Suffering from the subtle disappointment of our expectations of achieving happiness after getting the so desired substances, things, fame, fortunes and relationships

[@valq10]

These interviews are beyond nourishing. What a joy to be able to have access to this man's thoughts and what great interviewing and questioning from you Curt, really bringing the best out of Noam. Inspirational how he keeps going, because he wants to help so much. He's like a bodhisattva.

[@fabiengerard8142]

👌🏻👌🏽👌 He IS definitely a bodhisattva.

[@ealykke427]

TOE/Curt and Noam are a great combo!

[@rbanyal]

By far, one of the best and all encompassing interviews of Noam.

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Thank you so much. - Curt

[@encodus1217]

It's gonna be very interesting if there's a conversation between Noam Chomsky, Rupert Spira and Bernardo Kastrup - I think this pairing hasn't been done before. Thanks for the amazing content and all the hard work you put in those videos and prep work behind the scenes, Curt! ❤🙏

[@herbalfleece8821]

With respect I don't think Rupert and Chomsky would be able to find much common-ground to operate in, Bernardo on the other hand, I would pay to hear that.

[@encodus1217]

@@herbalfleece8821 I absolutely agree that Rupert and Chomsky have zero common ground, but the reason why I added him into the mix is that only Rupert can add those extra invaluable insights. So, the main point of conversing would rather go between Bernardo and Chomsky on analytical grounds, while Rupert may add his amazing insights in key moments, which I'm sure would enrich the conversation.

[@encodus1217]

@@lavalavalavalavalava Absolutely! And I don't expect any of them to shift their point of view as result from this conversation (especially given the fact it's their work of a lifetime), and that's not the point. They have contrasting ideas, and when there's contrast, the subject becomes better defined for the viewers to discern.

[@thenowchurch6419]

My intuition says that Chomsky would look with disdain on Kastrup's conceptions and call them unscientific.

[@sonjamurphy]

Rupert along with Sam Harris (more names escape me now) could be a great contributor to helping these existential crises of our time. What happened to the idea that putting the greatest minds, in their respective fields , together to form some kind of collective priority for each “problem “ . Then once there’s a more tangible and clear vision for the future of our species and what we need to collectively address and collaborate on. I feel like everyone, on some level, knows that we are in a very difficult time in our history and that we need to do “something” to insure our future. But, no one knows what to do about anything other then either go on living in ignorance or attempt to make a positive impact in the lives around them…. No one person can have the information and wisdom to seek out the truth and the toxicity of our collective cultures and political systems etc… Every aspect of our existence has problems to address but without the greatest minds of our time, we are surely doomed, right? Is it possible to have an alliance of some sort that would allow for these philosophers, scientists, scholars, historians, etc to work together?

[@nickk6386]

Thanks for asking my question (29:37), I sent it through almost a year ago now and was super happy to hear it answered here :))

[@TheoriesofEverything]

You got it! - Curt

[@IanKnowland]

Oh boy, this presses all my buttons. Can't wait!!

[@Meditation409]

I love Mr. Chomsky. I have so much love and respect for this man!! ❤ I look forward to this pocast in 5 days!!! 🙏💕🤗

[@christopherbettridge5983]

Thanks to both the presenters for having Professor Chomsky on the show, Prof Chomsky himself for his quiet certitude; and everyone who asked a question for P Chomsky; I can only hope that the neoliberal Götterdämmerung leaves us all pens, paper and through the gasps for breath perhaps a leftover of this Epochen will retain the desire for learning like was evidenced by all who participated in this Chomsky "Take-Out" on the conscious mind. Engaging; and it actually inspired me and broke my LONG writer's block for anything but short pieces and poetry! Nothing plagiaristic, just a phrase jumped out at me, all the way up here in Canada! I look forward to all the research I'll have to start doing on a few subjects I'm relatively unfamiliar with. Thank you all again, and thank you for your time, as well. Herzlich Glückwünschen

[@seanmccall7277]

This talk was important for my personal long-term inquiry into the nature of languages. 😊🙏 Thank you

[@TheoriesofEverything]

I'm glad Sean. - Curt

[@seanmccall7277]

@TheoriesofEverything I will be listening to this again and again.. Curt, the work you're doing is incredibly important. Also, thank you for your continued interest in the UAP phenomenon. The world needs curious people on this subject who are also critical thinkers and scientifically minded. ..and we need those people to be visible in order to help guide the thinking of our populace. It needs it. You are doing exactly that. 🙏 thank you again. Peace to you.

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Thank you so much!@@seanmccall7277

[@bockmancheung]

The title "Buddhism Meets Ai" has nothing to do with the actual video. Buddhism was mentioned only once or twice and was only one of the short questions. What does that mean?

[@kraz007]

Click-bait... Doug's Dharma has actual discussions on AI and Buddhism, specifically the question of non-self.

[@marylouraygarcia401]

Thanks so much for all these magnificent videos

[@artpinsof5836]

Love U Curt 🔥🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥🔥🔥

[@manmohanmehta5697]

What a man , a gentle man with so many sides.i can only have a feeling of great respect and deep affection.

[@Biersoful]

There premieres are killing me man, I see a new video and get excited only to see that it's premiering in 3 days or sth 😭

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Sorry about that. Trying to keep to a "every week Tues at 2pm schedule."

[@Biersoful]

@@TheoriesofEverything no no no, it's great, these premieres make sure that I watch the video, but sometimes waiting is hard haha. Good job anyway, love your work!!!

[@mannequinskywalker]

Thank you for this!! I wish that Curt had asked what Noam's definition of understanding is. Maybe next time!

[@dancewithangela]

I'd love to see more questions and sharing on "inner speech" that Noam talks about - the basis of how we talk/communicate internally. Somatic therapists and explorers use this type of communication with inner communication systems of the body such as Bonnie Bainbridge Cohen. And introspection is the place where one can explore this inner communication that is pre-language and non-language based and based on the sensory nervous system and feeling systems of the body. How Bonnie Bainbridge Cohen and others work on developing collective progress of the species is by sharing the experiences of people as they explore their inner world so we can build a collective picture of that inner world. Introspection in isolation can only take us so far.

[@DaseinClimbs]

Hearing Chomsky talking about Pierce is fantastic. Two of the most gifted minds the Americas have every produced and influential beyond their years. Great interview

[@sanjee3281]

Just a mind-blowing conversation! Thank you for making it happen

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Glad you enjoyed it - Curt

[@GMC2001]

Dear Curt, I love your discussions, thank you. Noam is on another level from his knowledge of language and communication, through his philosophy of science, his examinations and explications of the manipulation of media by the oligarchy, to the utter humanity of his position on disenfranchised groups, in particular the Palestinians.

[@Anarchist0707]

Noam is the Galileo Galilei of this century. Please invite him more and more and discuss pure scientific topics like this. He is old and his every minute is so precious for us. Bring him more and more and love you Kurt for asking the good questions.

[@tear728]

Chomsky is incredible at this age. His argument that LLMs can learn impossible languages that human beings can't is on point. Given a meaningless grammar, an LLM can learn meaningless patterns and as a result output meaningless patterns. What is there to understand from a meaningless grammar though? All it is is a model that approximates arbitrarily closely, where the delta depends on the training data.

[@skywalker771]

Brilliant mind! Thank you Mr. Chomsky. Thank you Curt.

[@rolodexter]

I agree with you that Noam Chomsky is a brilliant thinker and that his work is essential for understanding the world we live in. His work on Universal Grammar has had a profound impact on our understanding of language, and his work on media propaganda has been instrumental in exposing the ways in which the media is used to manipulate public opinion. I also agree that the Chomsky documentary, Manufacturing Consent, should be mandatory viewing in every high school curriculum. It is an eye-opening film that exposes the ways in which the media is used to control our thoughts and beliefs.

[@ViktorMito2099]

Very important correction re: Buddhism says the cause of suffering is desire. This is incorrect. The cause of suffering (2nd noble truth) is reactivity to either pleasurable or unpleasant objects of/ experience. One side of it is attachment (e.g. to pleasurable experiences) and the other is aversion (pushing away from), it is those two things that cause suffering. Desire per se is not the cause of suffering.

[@BM-zd3vs]

Within a few minutes of this video, I just subscribed your channel. Keep it up with good work.

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Welcome! - Curt

[@kimjellen4508]

Thanks Curt, great content as ever

[@attackdog6824]

Interesting discussion about Nelson Goodman’s contribution to starmaking. He did recommend I read it over email so I shall.- Thanks once again!

[@givemorephilosophy]

15:27 Existential Reality is so simple once you know it .CurtJmungal you are doing a great job. It is just evading and you will find it🙏🙏🙏

[@heinzgassner1057]

Intellectual concepts and speech are just like a small boat on the huge ocean of the collective mind and ‚behind that‘ is the ultimate reality which cannot be thought or talked about. This is where the gates of NOW as timeless time and HERE as spaceless space can lead us.

[@marksharman8029]

I admit to listening sometimes, as I fall asleep. Not always. Great channel.

[@sapienspace8814]

Glag you had Noam on, he is a brilliant fascinating man, grateful he can speak tp us!

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Thanks! He's been on a few times prior. kzbin.info/aero/PLZ7ikzmc6zlORiRfcaQe8ZdxKxF-e2BCY

[@MuonRay]

Oh jeez oh man, good to hear Chomsky's insights but my god what a jarring and shameless plug of the con that is masterworks at 21:12. when you said "masterworks is the Higgs Boson in your investment portfolio" I actually lol'd.

[@pjaworek6793]

U get the best peeps Curt! Sharpest old guy ever! Thank you, tons!

[@DaevaIllusion]

before the dude shouts in the end, that it's your 9th time here. I was wondering why Chomsky interviewing with this guy a lot, and to be honest his questions are awesome , I didn't know some of them even exist . , and of course the dude is SHARP , Chomsky on 1.5 speed is amazing.

[@ywtcc]

The way I talk about science, I think of it as a social institution, rather than as a coherent philosophy. The "drunk at a lamppost", I would say is referring to a narrow view of empiricism. It's unflattering, but I think Noam is mostly correct in his assessment. I expand on empiricism a little by conceptualizing the process as a dialog, or interrogation, through observation and experimentation with "the universe"/"objective reality". The game is to get as much accurate information out of the exchange as possible, and from this information, to build theories of reality, largely in an attempt to get more information out of the dialog, but also with applications anywhere accurate, testable theories and predictions are of use. The problem is noted here, it's not a coherent philosophy, so much as it is a method for theory production and validation. Whatever philosophy you have to acquire to produce better theories is the correct one, until the next observation shows it isn't. Whatever the universe tells you is truth, even though it clearly doesn't speak your language. I think of science in a similar way, but that's more of a social institution that reflects the empiricism of its participants. Due to the philosophical versatility of empiricism, scientists seem to be able to believe everything and the opposite, and still make progress by continually proving themselves incorrect, incomplete, contradictory, and vastly superior to alternative methods of theory production when asking some of the hardest questions. Put enough of these drunks on the case and they'll find more keys in the dark than you asked them to! Which is to say, it happens to be quite an effective method, when scaled up to a social level. Interestingly, people seem to be vastly better at producing theory when engaging in these kinds of social games, as opposed to any individual effort. If science is a drunk under a lamppost looking for a key, then individual philosophy must be a passed out drunk, dreaming about what's behind the locked door.

[@mcmaho17]

Noam Chomsky's intelligence and humanity is nothing short of astounding.

[@nwogamesalert]

Indeed especially his endorsement of segregating the unvaccinated. "Noam Chomsky argued that those who remain unvaccinated should be segregated, saying that obtaining food after they had "the decency to remove themselves from the community" was "their problem." After the left-wing linguist was asked what separation of the unvaccinated would look like on a practical level, Chomsky said the unvaccinated should remove themselves from the community for the safety of others and make arrangements to get food without coming into contact with others.

[@mcmaho17]

I don't know about all that. I just see him actively encouraging intellectual engagement every where he goes. I don't have to agree with all his particular opinions on every topic to appreciate this. @@nwogamesalert

[@cyborgbear7269]

Mathematical Linguistics is another interesting subject. The Science of abstracting and formalizing quantities and patterns can be applied to grammar in order to identify and formalize its components.

[@Luke43168]

thank you...when was this recorded?

[@givemorephilosophy]

8:36 Perception and introspection and illusion so well explained...

[@heinzgassner1057]

A pity that Noam never got in touch with Buddhism and/or Advaita Vedanta. There is so much knowledge about the conventional and ultimate reality, about all the dependent arising of our ‚material world‘ from ‚no-thing‘, about the imputation of words and mental concepts of perceptions, sensations and feelings in order to remember and predict, in order to create time and space in a timeless and spaceless ‚underlying’ reality.

[@hihowareyou0000]

Absolutely Wonderful Human being ❤❤

[@juliodiaz3920]

Chomsky, you should exist forever

[@Eta_Carinae__]

You or Noam are likely aware, but I saw a talk recently by Bob Coecke on the "ICTP: Quantitative Life Sciences" (see: _Compositional Intelligence_ ) channel concerning work done by Coecke, along with Mernoosh Sarzadeh and Stephen Clark, based on unifying Roger Penrose's sort of visual tensor representations as used in quantum computing and Jim Lambek's grammar algebra that essentially finds a homology between UG-type grammars and a class of restricted neural networks. I thought it might have been pertinent to the discussion with AI - specifically as a sort of rebuttal to Noam's own view on its discontinuity.

[@MousZon]

Thanks for this.

[@gingerhipster]

The desire referenced in the torture example is the desire of the torturer, not the sufferer.

[@RoninATX]

00:56:33 what a great way of putting it

[@tear728]

He makes an excellent point

[@thegritsch]

The fact that introspection has indeed limits, should not be glossed over. This is the biggest mystery of the world hiding in plain sight! How does the unconscious become conscious?

[@cybmor1856]

Does anyone know which of Charles Peirce's books talks about what Chomsky mentions around the 37min mark?

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Everything should be subtitled. Let me know if it's incorrectly stated in the closed captioning.

[@progrob27]

Well with a title like that, how can we not watch? Cheers

[@xanxus8272]

Crazy, in a few months Noam is going to be 95.

[@mourdebars]

How new it is? When does it take place? thx

[@javiertapia4724]

there is a question we are not asking, and it is that we are not going to be able to recognize if this chatbot is going to create new ideas or is it going to steal them from some computer before known, is it the end of privacy? everytime you use a free ap you are giving away most of your info

[@scottcantdance804]

All mentions of his friendship with the owner of a certain island were deleted on the community post for this interview. Weird, wonder how that happened...

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Hey, just so you know I don't delete a single comment. It was either spam or categorized as such an unable my ability to view it / uncheck it as spam

[@scottcantdance804]

​@@TheoriesofEverythingI'm... Constantly surprised by your level of community engagement. Have always loved the channel, even when I'm not a huge fan of specific guests.

[@TheoriesofEverything]

@@scottcantdance804 Thank you so much!

[@tear728]

He was friends with a lot of people. So what is your point? Hitler also had friends and drank water

[@L2p2]

Could someone comment here the name of the person who wrote the article quoted by Noam Chomsky at 19:47 . The link to article or DOI will also help. Thank you.

[@cheoresono3896]

I'm very curious about master's ideas about RFT, the Relational Frame Theory. Cause it is being widely applied in de field of mental health.

[@electric7309]

chomsky mention Language models make errors and Hallucinate: yes they do, but there are develoments and tecniques addressing this problem with ''grounding'', the models as they are will be used for their ability to process language, that's what these language are modelling.

[@JosephDuvernay]

Thank you! Nothing seems more important for me these days than, admittedly, Listening to this Man! Mr. Dr. Prof. Noam Chomksy. Thank you! One has one's work, if lucky. But then... a bout of Learning...? before a rip-roaring or slow movie. `Cause when Descartes' name comes up, the feel is as with Galileo and many, many others...the work is not finished! Much is said there, don't miss the many jewel... Man is failing! There is much to do...

[@JeffMartin1]

There's huge debate about what is going on under the hood in LLM's. It's not known whether their behavior is purely superficial statistical patters or whether they may have developed some kind of underlying representation. Does Chomsky admit the possibility that such systems could be converging on some kind of underlying grammar despite arriving by a totally different route from normal children learning language.

[@Josephus_vanDenElzen]

53:20 a terminological question, indeed, how many resources in academia are spent on these, non inquiries?

[@bruceclark4754]

Recursive merge ? Might have been useful to have had a definition. I know you prefer your listeners to have a Phd in physics but must one also have one in linguistics?

[@tear728]

Google it

[@surajitpoddar2003]

When this interview was taken?

[@tarnopol]

When was this filmed?

[@jdspharmacopeiacsaspagyria9615]

You should interview physicist Thomas Campbell author of a theory is everything based on consciousness and simulation VR hypothesis which is currently being tested experimentally with novel quantum mechanics

[@TheoriesofEverything]

I spoke to Thomas Campbell twice :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZzSXpuMdpJrf7c is Part 1 and Part 2 is also on the channel here kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5_ciXWOZst7ptE.

[@damianclifford9693]

It would be great to hear Iain McGilchrist in discussion with Noam Chomsky. What does Noam think about the hemisphere hypothesis ?

[@aamirhussainshaikh1637]

Few days before there was news that "our language is limited to understand quantum theory" . We would be interested know your opinion

[@givemorephilosophy]

6:47 so clear ,🙏🙏

[@supercal333]

Am interested in his views on Godel's incompleteness theorem.

[@TheoriesofEverything]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jImTmaFse5Kdqas&pp=gAQBiAQB Here you go :) I spoke to him about this very topic

[@givemorephilosophy]

18:08 Complex till not understood 🙏🙏🙏

[@givemorephilosophy]

13:51 Merge is an interesting concept🙏🙏🙏

[@visavou]

the god of rhetoric our dear prof chomsky

[@user-be5mk5em4e]

Anything meaningful and interesting keeps me awake.

[@QDoppio]

Notice how Tim boxes at 1:42

[@jackhannon4322]

He was hitting Curt with that iron left

[@givemorephilosophy]

11:46 Universal Semantic Grammar helps understand reality😊😊

[@DEeMONsworld]

He has an amazing knack for cutting through the intellectual BS and reducing any question to it's element.

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

He has no such talent as you describe. Don't be bamboozled by his erudition.

[@cyborgbear7269]

He mentions biocommunication, which is a very interesting subject in itself. If you haven't looked into it, check it out.

[@dalelerette206]

After reading social media for over 20 years, it has become painfully clear that many are not willing to see past the 'virtual reality' of the language they speak. I suspect Aristotle was in the correct realm when he engaged in his philosophy. Later many Catholic theologians followed the same philosophy as the good ones walked an entire spectrum of Catholic human behavior that was mapped along the 10 Commandments based on Aristotelian etherical imperatives expressed in Roman Catholic Language. But all authentic religions seem to agree on Natural Law. There are 10 Commandments 3 Commandments toward God 7 Commandments toward Humanity - the Noahide Covenant already agrees with the Hindu and Buddhist philosophies. They mirror the very structure of the language we speak: There are eight parts of speech in the English language: noun, pronoun, verb, adjective, adverb, preposition, conjunction, and interjection. All 10 Commandments would need to be properly balanced within the lively virtues: chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience, kindness, and humility. Aristotle posits 10 categories of existing things: substance, quantity, quality, relation, place, time, position, doing, having, and being affected. Each of these terms was defined by Aristotle in pretty much the same way we would define it today, the one exception being substance. But this would be true regardless of genetic background - Plato regarded democracy as little more than mob rule by another name-perhaps without the violence, at least at first. The distributism model of G.K. Chesterton that awakens reciprocal financial benefits along ALL PEOPLE seems to be the the only authentic democracy: African, American Indian, Asian, Australian, European, Indian, Melanesian, Micronesian & Polynesian. Peace

[@serijas737]

Here is something I had in mind about AI or Language Models like ChatGPT: Aren't they basically operating from a purely Zen-like state?

[@alpinyoable]

This is qute good. I think we are limited by language and it needs to evolve.

[@FoursWithin]

108:26 "Is it creating reality ? , No." Nelson Goodman, starmaking, ( irrealism ) Thank you for introducing me to Nelson Goodman 👍

[@radientbeing]

The field of mathematics has the best chance for discivering truths.

[@richlinlaw]

Question anything interesting? You've been following in the new cycle lately that bears on topics of interest? Question, anything that I should have asked that you'd be willing to share with me? Question, have you reconsidered your position on mandatory vaccination? Question, given the free exchange of information is necessary to solve the world's problems and move forward together. Do you have any suggestions for how to improve free speech on the web?

[@Nonconceptuality]

The disembodied "voice" in consciousness (thought) is not a part of the physical realm and does not "mix" well with it. The connection between thought and the physical realm is illusory.

[@percubit10]

we are creators. Who need these archaic figures.

[@Doberdobax]

It amazes me how people gravitate to things we don’t understand and venerate the greatest speculatists.

[@Doberdobax]

@@nicbarth3838 actually I’m saying the complete opposite. I’m extrapolating Chomsky’s analogy about the drunk man looking for his keys across the street from the light to humans in general. I mean come on bro, none of us know anything for certain, but it’s cool how we can confide in others that can produce the narratives of life. Happens everywhere in every country in every language.

[@nicbarth3838]

@@Doberdobax ah sorry about that attack when Ive heard other people comment something similar its been from a sense of superiority but now that you replied im not geting that from you at all.. well thats embarrasing oh well ill try to not do that again, I dont try to call people out so I must have been frustrated about something in my life at that point. I agree with what your saying and I think its still valuable that these talks are happening, I started to branch out and consider idealism a little more about the origin of materialism, however im right now and have been even as a kid but without the concepts or vocab a materialist in that I thought that concioucness comes from something in my head, but now im on the physicalist road because materialism doesnt awnser it much and idealism while it does is unsatisfying, so I can only say its a combo of both or something else who knows but its nice that more hypothesis can get some attention because in the early 2000s if you said that you wanted to discuss concioucness and the science of how to indirectly quantify it you would have been laughted out of the room let alone to discuss idealism as underlying some of our scientific GUI so to speak that we interact with to test experiments and replicate research not that I would understand the ramifications of that. But yea glad this stuff being talked about because the awnser could lie in some composide of all these hypotheses or for all I know materislism has these awnsers but were in so much of in the begining of neroscience compared to so many other fields that we cant comprehend how close to infancy this field is.

[@Doberdobax]

@@nicbarth3838 I assume you’re younger than me so I just wanna give you a bit of advice; don’t think of ideas in concepts anymore, be open-minded but critical and patient about new information and do some deep diving into Alan Watts, I think you’ll love him. Have a great day or night my friend❤️

[@simeonbanner6204]

It's not physical suffering: "suffering comes from desire".

[@Censeo]

Much 💕 to both of you. The deep questions are so important to explore. Frustrating but honorable quest

[@markwrede8878]

We wonder whether symbolic logic might be deployed through math against ideology. Survivors fallacy is a common trope. If made proactive through such logic, it would pattern paranoid schizophrenic reasoning patterns.

[@ozgurkibar9778]

Trinidan and Tobago? I've always supposed you were Indan!

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Trini mon!

[@cybmor1856]

What's the name at 35min?

[@TheoriesofEverything]

Everything should be subtitled. Let me know if it's incorrectly stated in the closed captioning.

[@sonjamurphy]

The complexity of the English language alone, in the USA, is unprecedented in its scope of failure to understand one another. With slang, accents and other forms of grammar (and lack there of) seems to have become the biggest obstacle in communication between all people. Family members are more likely to have a different understanding of grammar and vocabulary and more inclined to speak with inside common knowledge. Then someone from the West coast might struggle with clarity when speaking with a person from the east coast. Misunderstanding is the most crucial factor that ended my marriage. A person who couldn’t be bothered by using grammar or even using words that he had heard spoken by other people but didn’t fully understand the meaning of the word or the correct context. Somehow he didn’t understand why I didn’t understand what he was trying to convey which inevitably led to arguments and fights over words! Is there any correlation between this idea and what happens when people are constantly talking over each other and saying things they don’t mean but mean something that they don’t say? Social media is obviously not a friendly and or helpful tool for communicating with plenty more problems than just being unable to communicate properly. But in public communication with people at the gas station or the bank or whatever, it’s nearly impossible for everyone to exclude the emotional defense that they carry around like a default reaction to a interaction that they don’t know how the other person couldn’t possibly understand or if they understood “me” then why are they not helping me or sympathizing about the issue….. Do individuals have such diverse experiences that they’ve now developing their own personal perception of what their words mean, by definition?

[@ericpmoss]

I would answer, "yes" to most of that. It is exacting work to produce a sentence that conveys precisely the meaning desired by the speaker/writer, even amongst well-read individuals. Most words in any natural language have multiple denotations and multiple connotations, many of which shift over time, and which depend upon context set by the surrounding sentences, by socially conditioned expectations, and by tone of voice and gestures indicating when the intent is to posit an idea to explore as opposed to declaring something expected to be accepted as truth. (Anti-)social media makes it all worse because the medium is explicitly engineered to reward "engagement", not consensus and understanding. Add to that the anonymity of posting, and the situation is similar to how people behave once they are behind a tinted windshield -- they act in ways far more pointlessly aggressive than they might normally. As to your last question... while it is often claimed that no two people experience "blue" the same way, it hardly matters as long as the two people are shown the same color -- they aren't sharing nerve impulses, they are experiencing the same external stimulus and assigning it the same symbol. If some people are encouraged to yell "fake news" at anything that causes discomfort, there is no way to develop a shared vocabulary. The same goes for those who don't have the ability to hypothesize -- every statement has to be literal and explicit and involving themselves before they can even begin to imagine it being true for others.

[@AquariusGate]

11:44 Language has no rules, it has properties and attributes we learn to utilise. Uniformity looks like rule following.

[@myboloneyhasafirstname6764]

Chomsky is iconic.