Budget eBay Porsche 3.2 Carrera: Testing with a PicoScope Oscilloscope! Bad Wires??

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Heidi and Franny Sailing

Heidi and Franny Sailing

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Porsche 3.2 Carrera Engine Installation - Porsche Carrera Rebuild
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Engine diagnostics, Automotive oscilloscope, Picoscope 2204a, Porsche engine build, Porsche Carrera Engine removal
Hi Everyone, I wasn't happy with all the testing we did a couple videos back and after several comments, I decided to do a bit of research on how to get better results than what a Volt-Ohm meter can provide. I came across a channel called Mechanic Mindset and reached out to Darren and got a bunch of great info on the PicoScope 2204a. Check out his channel here for lots of tips and tricks: www.youtube.co...
In the video, we check the position and speed sensors, the airflow meter, run a virtual compression test, take a look at the ignition patterns and finally get a yes or no on that original black coil.
Let me know your thoughts on the Pico and some of the data I got. We even found one big surprise!
You can find the PicoScope software here: www.picotech.c...
If you are interested in the scope or any of the probes and such you can find links for them here:
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Hantek CC-650 AC/DC Max High Current Clamp Probe: amzn.to/3vgdfAl
Hantek AC/DC Current Clamp CC 65A Low Current Clamp Probe: amzn.to/3rJHVYS
Hantek HT201 1.053M Input Resistance 10MHz Bandwidth Signal Attenuator: amzn.to/3vgpEUW
Pack of 2 BNC Q9 to Double Alligator Clips: amzn.to/3thVuiB
Hantek HT30A with Utrade Heavy Duty Test Lead 3M BNC to Banana Adapter Cable: amzn.to/3viHXsQ
Probe Kit KKmoon HT307: amzn.to/3rF7Lgv
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@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Everyone, I wasn't happy with all the testing we did a couple videos back and after several comments, I decided to do a bit of research on how to get better results than what a Volt-Ohm meter can provide. I came across a channel called Mechanic Mindset and reached out to Darren and got a bunch of great info on the PicoScope 2204a. Check out his channel here for lots of tips and tricks: kzbin.info?search_query=mechanic+mindset In the video, we check the position and speed sensors, the airflow meter, run a virtual compression test, take a look at the ignition patterns and finally get a yes or no on that original black coil. Let me know your thoughts on the Pico and some of the data I got. We even found one big surprise! You can find the PicoScope software here: www.picotech.com/downloads If you are interested in the scope or any of the probes and such you can find links for them here: PicoScope 2204A (no probes): amzn.to/3vhB0In Hantek HT25 Auto Ignition Probe with three ends (order 2 of these): amzn.to/3rKi9Uc Acer Aspire Laptop (under 400 dollars!!!):amzn.to/3bEgNVB Autooutlet Oscilloscope Probe: amzn.to/3viisaP Hantek CC-650 AC/DC Max High Current Clamp Probe: amzn.to/3vgdfAl Hantek AC/DC Current Clamp CC 65A Low Current Clamp Probe: amzn.to/3rJHVYS Hantek HT201 1.053M Input Resistance 10MHz Bandwidth Signal Attenuator: amzn.to/3vgpEUW Pack of 2 BNC Q9 to Double Alligator Clips: amzn.to/3thVuiB Hantek HT30A with Utrade Heavy Duty Test Lead 3M BNC to Banana Adapter Cable: amzn.to/3viHXsQ Probe Kit KKmoon HT307: amzn.to/3rF7Lgv 6V/24V Car Electrical Circuit Continuity Tester with Indicator Light: amzn.to/2N8JUGU Thexton THE404 Spark Tester: amzn.to/3bFxzU9
@rudimaier3679
@rudimaier3679 3 жыл бұрын
Justin miller on KZbin also has good information on the 2204a like darren
@NewLevelAuto
@NewLevelAuto 2 жыл бұрын
Darren is a top chap 👍
@robertyoung4389
@robertyoung4389 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your new pico scope. I have used scopes for automotive diagnostics for over fifty years.. believe me you have just open up a great new way to diagnose electrical problems, weather it is engine, alternator- generator, heater fan or wiper motor, the possibilities are endless. As you said in your video, practice is key; I assure you the more you practice the more you will be using it. Thank you for what you are teaching technicians both professional and DIY. It is very much needed and appreciated. Thank you R.G. Young, Jr
@ron993
@ron993 3 жыл бұрын
Your virtual compression test is so smart ! AWESOME
@knocksensor3203
@knocksensor3203 3 жыл бұрын
Especially on cars with tight engine compartments
@supadupa3
@supadupa3 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Just found your channel after trying to work out how best to do an AC ripple test to check an alternator. Thank you. I've learnt a few new tricks from this video alone, and I've been working with cars for nearly thirty years now. I'm really excited to watch some more of your videos to see what other golden nuggets I might come across. A very grateful tinkerer from the UK 🙂
@jamesberlo4298
@jamesberlo4298 2 жыл бұрын
The PICO Machines are amazing, I can't believe how sensitive & precise it is!
@COM70
@COM70 Жыл бұрын
Ah i see, a relative compression test. My brain was bouncing there for a minute. Just found the channel. Nice 👍
@deercreeker
@deercreeker 3 жыл бұрын
Asked on my 20 years of experience of reading esophageal manometry waveforms, I can state that your 911 will no issues with swallowing solid foods.
@johnspecht72
@johnspecht72 3 жыл бұрын
The intellectual curiosity and desire to get things properly worked out are impressive! So often people just cannot be bothered to get repairs completed and even brag about how little they care. This is not perfectionism for perfectionism's sake. The knowledge you are gaining and passing on gives you a better understanding of what processes are working and what are not. Many people will simply throw parts at a problem and never fix it. On the Car Wizard channel Mr. Long shows how properly diagnosing issues actually saves time and money.
@Bavariaria
@Bavariaria 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is awesome. Have loved following this build. Learning so much.
@Paulman50
@Paulman50 3 жыл бұрын
You are truly amazing for a home mechanic.
@alanleclair1
@alanleclair1 3 жыл бұрын
I've been a fan and follower of you and Heidi now for close to two years. Your content is always top notch. But today Franny you've really outdone yourself! I am stunned at how much I've learned today. Thank you!!! ❤️👏🎉
@andyvlasveld
@andyvlasveld 8 ай бұрын
This is one of the best Pico video's ever! Great JOB
@ChuckJ1944
@ChuckJ1944 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, your black coil was in good shape and the car is still running a lot better than when you started the exercise of identifying where the idle problem was. Congratulations! Great video! :-) I will say I owned 11 9111s starting with a 1966 and ending with a 2012; I did all my maintenance and I never used a scope. You are a lot more high tech than I ever was!
@alexmestas2128
@alexmestas2128 3 жыл бұрын
What a GREAT episode. This is great information!
@billhartsfield424
@billhartsfield424 3 жыл бұрын
Another great source for using your Pico, is Eric at South Main Auto on KZbin.. great teacher and explainer. Love his videos on trouble shooting
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'll take a look.
@NekoWinters
@NekoWinters 3 жыл бұрын
No lie this is one of those videos that str8t guys would rag on you for watching BUT because you've watched it you have a wealth of information and how-to that many of them would NEVER get and you'll look like a engine whisperer and wow them when you say "just use and oscilloscope, it will show you information more easily" :3
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
I think that may be the reason our stuff doesn't get shared out that much :( Thanks so much for watching :)
@zacknrudi
@zacknrudi 3 жыл бұрын
​@@HeidiandFranny Are "str8t" guys still so insecure about their sexual orientation that they can't handle being schooled by a woman? It's so disappointing how pervasive that crap is in "Merica", your stuff is brilliant and it's their loss!
@LSmiata
@LSmiata 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeidiandFranny Hello Heidi and Franny's Garage, I truly hope nothing is holding your channel back. Worked in automotive electrical engineering for a good part of my career and trained many on how to use test instruments, but I guarantee I could not produce anything near the quality and quantity covered in this video. In just 20 minutes you clearly covered 3 very different uses of the Pico scope and even how to set a trigger so that cylinders can be identified on the scope. The way you convey the knowledge is practical and detailed, like a super teacher! Keep posting, more will follow, the content is some of the BEST I have viewed! Mr. P
@abernathymonsoon4638
@abernathymonsoon4638 3 жыл бұрын
Franny, you never cease to amaze me - I always learn something, although I don't understand what lol Franny's new project: brain surgery. Because she's just that intelligent =) BTW - how's it driving? Smooth?
@weldingjunkie
@weldingjunkie 5 ай бұрын
Keep in mind heat and resistance while the car is running can affect sensors and captures. The automotive scopes are amazing. The ATS escope is even better. You should make a delta sensor for intake and exhaust pulses.
@soundpitchblack
@soundpitchblack 3 жыл бұрын
I see video release I sit down and watch....👍👍👍👍
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Yea!
@dalebabbitt6185
@dalebabbitt6185 2 жыл бұрын
I "THINK" spark plug gap will also change you ignition test graph. MAYBE that's why the factory graph looked a little different in comparison to yours. This is all interesting stuff. Thank you so much for sharing!!!!!
@DavidSanchez-ju8xq
@DavidSanchez-ju8xq 2 жыл бұрын
Your splanations are ok.i hope than people know value your time.thaks......
@greggsenne1268
@greggsenne1268 3 жыл бұрын
That little scope is so cool. Always better to know than guess.
@weldingjunkie
@weldingjunkie 5 ай бұрын
relative compression can burn you. If you have a dead hole it’ll throw you off you should do a spark sync (not trigger that’s different) with it. Great video
@brentowen9480
@brentowen9480 3 жыл бұрын
Cool, great to see your enthusiasm with a new tool, especially a scope. Seems you already have a good knowledge base of how to use it. I've been using scopes since 2004. I still get excited when I get good vehicles to use for known goods and even more excited when that info can be used to diag something broken....
@lowreedman
@lowreedman 3 жыл бұрын
Great diagnostic explanation. Thanks!
@paulmcdonald9592
@paulmcdonald9592 3 жыл бұрын
Please keep up your great content. I apologize for the snarky comment last month. Very interesting and thorough detective work. Good luck on bringing the 3.2 home.
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
No worries! Glad you enjoyed it :)
@freerkderuiter8822
@freerkderuiter8822 3 жыл бұрын
Learned a lot again today. Great video as always :)
@thinkerdoit
@thinkerdoit 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding vid. Illustrates the “scope” of applicable coverage! Esp like the compression examples! Thank you! Very educational and interesting stuff!
@x356b
@x356b 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see a cool use of an ignition trace with a very nice little scope. One thing that might be fun, given the portable nature of the scope, is to look at the ignition breakdown voltage when the engine is under load. The peak voltage should go much higher than at idle. This will also possibly indicate arc-over in the coil or secondary wiring. Very good fun!
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
One common technique is to do a "snap" throttle test to simulate a momentary load. Since the software can record 32 screens at a time you can just go back and look. I used a free screen capture software that will allow you to "monitor" for several minutes and write to MP4 file. With the Pico software you can also save those 32 screens and pull them up later and do stuff like zoom in and out, measure time and voltage. Super slick!
@buckmaxey7998
@buckmaxey7998 2 жыл бұрын
As usual, very helpful! And I can now maybe tackle testing my Air Flow Meter. You can make things I didn't understand understandable.
@troymark2298
@troymark2298 3 жыл бұрын
i know a master mechanic when i see one - enjoying your show from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@troymark2298
@troymark2298 3 жыл бұрын
Heidi and Franny's Garage - no problem- thank you too !
@marcusd2380
@marcusd2380 3 жыл бұрын
Every garage needs an oscilloscope for testing around cars great tools that do so much more. For the higher voltages coil a price of wire and connect to the end of the scope and u can use it to sniff the spark plugs etc and see the pulses. Bring to coil close but don’t make contact to the voltage source
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Yup! Also really good for Coil-On-Plug as well. You can even use the coil from a relay. Check out Mechanic Mindset's videos on that.
@stefanjust1912
@stefanjust1912 3 жыл бұрын
Great to see that project come to a (successful) end, soon, and looking forward to following the Ferrari being inspected. One thing I noticed in your explanation, why the spikes don’t show up as in the manual: you were blaming it to the 8 bit A/C converter, but wouldn’t it actually be a sample rate problem ? Just wondering. Keep up that phenomenal work !
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stefan, great question! I need more time with it but whenever I increase the time base the samples drop automatically. It seems it can only deal with so much data at one time. While researching I heard that you can't expect too awfully much from an 8bit scope for large data sets. The true Pico automotive scopes are 12bit I think - but... also $900 so... I need to spend more time with it though.
@cerlin9392
@cerlin9392 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome- as usual. I want to buy a Porsche now, it is the one automobile that has always my attention.
@rodrigocastillo56
@rodrigocastillo56 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful idea use picoscope 2 ch. I agree all with video, buy when compare scope data with data reference of secondary pulses. Look ok, but your burn time is shorter than reference. Is very dificult to control spark plasma and burn time. Spark gap, all resistance in secondary circuit can move a bit to more or less the time, also primary coil current and internal limitations con control module or ecu. If combustion chambers are stardard, not altered (compress ratio std) ur engine must have similar burn time as references. Engines common values are 1.2 to 2.5 miliseconds. I use to see primary current in bottle coils using similar Hantek current clamp, but the CC-65. Less current range.
@gerigesquiere66
@gerigesquiere66 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Good work!
@stuartreid6981
@stuartreid6981 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome video. I certainly come to youtube to be entertained and also to learn. I can say I learned a bunch of excellent diagnostics techniques and tools that I've not seen presented on other channels - keep up the amazing content. Of course the downside is that I want a classic Porsche of my own to work on - ;-)
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Good luck with your search :)
@egomezmx65
@egomezmx65 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thanks for taking the time, more academic and quite interesting!!!
@jimreilly9179
@jimreilly9179 3 жыл бұрын
As usual a superior video. But, you started with the observation that you thought the idle was off. So, did all the testing and the returning resolve that issue? Or, did I miss something (not the first time if I did).
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Seems to have. I set the idle back to 800 (the shop set it up close to 900) and you saw I reinstalled the original coil and I am running the original idle bypass valve as well. Seems to start hot and cold well and idle very close to 800rpm. I need to drive the car a bit more but the weather has been nutty.
@rvidalgliding
@rvidalgliding 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for your videos. Very helpfull. I have a 3.2 1984 coupe stock and enjoy all your tips.👍
@eugenebaroni1298
@eugenebaroni1298 3 жыл бұрын
Wow another great video. That's really cool information from that Scan tool. Stay safe out there...
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@paulp96275
@paulp96275 3 жыл бұрын
Franny what a fantastic edition very well explained you are one clever girl thank you 👍👨🏻‍🏭🇬🇧
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261
@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261 3 жыл бұрын
00:00 - 9:12 High tech stuff! 09:13 - 11:17 checking spark plug and coil wires for leaking voltage with a test light 11:18 - 20:31 High tech stuff! Thanks for that test light trick. News to me! (Note for newbs: wire of test light was clamped to a ground.)
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that!
@MikeEvansHfd
@MikeEvansHfd 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thank you.
@francoistombe
@francoistombe Жыл бұрын
Very well explained. I was playing with my Hantek a few days ago when I had one of my occasional heart buzzes. It occurred to me that one of these could be modified to give an ECG reading. Anyone tried it?
@centavo1744
@centavo1744 3 жыл бұрын
Nice usage of the PicoScope. I know their products well. One comment on the 'missing' firing signal. This has nothing to do with the vertical resolution of 8 bit but is more a problem of not enough sample rate to capture the glitch. For this type of scope you can calculate the the required bandwidth of the scope to be 0.35 divided by the fastest rising edge (10% - 90%). Then you need to have four times the sample rate to avoid alaising effects. Nyquist law says you have to have at least 2 times the sampling rate but in reality with Gaussian input characteristic of the scope chanels you need to have four times sample rate. So the fastest rise time that can be seen on the screen of the PicoScope 2204a is 35 ns.
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. I did pop open the properties window to get a good look at just what the Pico was altering its settings to. I have the samples set to 2M and then the rest is just voltage range and time base, right? As I increased the time base to see all cylinders the sample rate would drop into the several thousands range. I read that this was a limit to the 8bit data capture. Can you suggest a setting that would capture all the firing lines? That would be super helpful :) I also played with the up-scaling of the probe to 8.5-10bit but that just smooths the signal without increasing resolution. Thanks!
@centavo1744
@centavo1744 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeidiandFranny You're welcome. Most oscilloscopes have an automatic setting of the sample rate and the aquisition memory to fill the entire screen. So first you can manually increase the aquisition memory to the maximum of 8 kSa which is unfortunately not very much. If you then increase the time base it will lower the sample rate or just not fill the complete screen. But the PicoScope6 software has a nice feature. You can stream the data via USB streaming mode directly into the PC for longer aquisitions with a higher sampling rate. Based on the datasheet you can stream up to 100 MSa so if you use 40 MSa/s sampling rate - which is enough for a 10 MHz scope input - you can stream up to 2.5 seconds to the memory. I haven't used the software in a while so I can't remember where to set it up. But I'm sure you can find out in the build in help. The 8.5 to 10 bit upscaling just increases the vertical resolution. What this function does is to take up to 8 sampling points and derive one new sample point but with higher vertical resolution. This of course reduces the effective sample rate by the factor of 8. So with 100 MSa/s maximum hardware sample rate only 12.5 MSa/s with high resolution is left which means appr. 3.15 MHz alaising-free bandwidth. This technique is called 'boxcar averaging'. I'm looking forward to se the Carrera running soon... Greetings.
@DD-gd3fr
@DD-gd3fr Ай бұрын
This was a great demo thank you guys. Could you recommend a automotive scope for beginners? Thank you
@salserr5022
@salserr5022 8 ай бұрын
Great video.
@TheWieggie
@TheWieggie 3 жыл бұрын
this i can really use .......... great stuff again ! thanks
@FeeeshEP3
@FeeeshEP3 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you for sharing!
@charley22123
@charley22123 3 жыл бұрын
Hi ladies , really a coincidence with your video to what i saw today at one of the garages i buy vehicles from . i went in through the workshop and one of the techs had the same picoscope but with 4 inputs , and i asked what he was up to and he was testing the injectors on a Renault diesel , uncanny or what .
@cocoritemassiveify
@cocoritemassiveify 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Franny I recently came across your videos as I’m desperately searching and researching videos or anything on the infamous 1974 autostick super beetle. I have one that had the wires removed from the flooring as the floor was replaced. I would like to see a video showing every step of this system as it combines safety and operational issues. The autostick works in tandem with the seat belts, the seat sensors and door buzzer. I would like to recreate this system which includes a relay that controls and is responsible for the seatbelt interlock. Thanks for any help.
@kawman4519
@kawman4519 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for another great video! The link to the PicoScope 2204a is $400. You had mentioned it is about $100? Is the link correct? When you hooked up the red clips to the Air flow meter, where does the black clip go, Ground somewhere perhaps? When you hooked up the current clamp on the starter wire and I assume the USB is connected to the current clamp and laptop? If yes, how do you test each cylinder? Sorry, just not sure how the wiring goes to test each cylinder, Much appreciated it.
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
You might be looking at the 2205a. I think that is $400 and 25MHz (2204a is 10MHz). Also there are packages with scope leads that run the price up a bit. I bought all that separately. Since Pico is out of the UK their products are a little hard to get. The pricing goes up and down a bit on Amazon. So, yes, on the air flow teste the black is on a good ground. I should have shown that. For the current clamp, it is also plugged into a channel on the scope (it is just another probe as far as the Pico is concerned). The Amp clamps convert the amp flow to voltage internally. They are an "active" probe in that they have a battery (9V) and you have to turn them on and zero out the signal. Just take a sec. You can also clamp on the main battery cable at the battery if that is easier. For syncing you could then use that same capacitive HT 25 clamp on the #1 spark plug lead and trigger on that. Cylinders would then be in the firing order. Let me know if that answers your questions :) F
@kawman4519
@kawman4519 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeidiandFranny Thanks for the details. That is great. My understanding is that I need to clamp the current clamp HT 25 to each spark plug lead in order to isolate each cylinder, correct? Clamping on the starter wire or the main battery cable will give you an overall average of all 6 cylinders, correct? Sorry about the silly questions.
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
@@kawman4519 you really only need the HT25 on cylinder #1 and then to the right the cylinders will be in the firing order (162435). You are really just looking at a relative drop in one cylinder consistently.
@kawman4519
@kawman4519 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeidiandFranny I see now. Thanks so much. Have a fantastic weekend!
@jaybee8128
@jaybee8128 3 жыл бұрын
Beru leads made my 3.2 carrera run terrible and the beru distributer cap fell apart inside its very cheap poor quality stuff I wouldn't use it again
@jmtworm
@jmtworm 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Heidi 👍👌
@Ianf1x
@Ianf1x 2 жыл бұрын
Watch dave strel vid he showed how to increase resolution on this great little scope 😁
@INTERNA9
@INTERNA9 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@thhall459
@thhall459 3 жыл бұрын
Heidi and Franny University of Automotive Technology and Engineering, PhD Level Course; HIGHLY recommended by me! Thank you so much!
@pepperpepperpepper
@pepperpepperpepper 3 жыл бұрын
So it this it for the fine tuning, and the car runs perfectly? Very interesting video again, even though the closest I'll ever come to a Picko is my nose :)
@YuckFou0x0FFFF
@YuckFou0x0FFFF 2 жыл бұрын
The 2000 series Picoscope is NOT designed for cars and using it as such will void your warranty. It has a shared ground with all channels. It can/will short out electronics on the vehicle as well as potentially damage itself. The 4425A is their flagship scope and is specifically designed for automotive use as it has floating grounds.
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 2 жыл бұрын
This car uses a common ground for all sensors and electronics so the common ground isn't an issue. Possibly for modern cars it might be a thing.
@wdegiorgio
@wdegiorgio 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation
@kengoeller1725
@kengoeller1725 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Heidi and Franny, What guide did you use for the Porsche 3.2? I'm looking for any manuals or guides or documentation on what the various voltages and the waveforms should be (and should not be) on a 911 3.2 L Carrera. I love your channel. It's very cool!
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I use both the Porsche service manual and also the Bentley manual. Bentley is easier to follow but has some errors and omissions. The actual service manual is the gold standard.
@patrickoneill9650
@patrickoneill9650 Жыл бұрын
Move mass air flow sensors dont have a movable vane
@robgreenstein5917
@robgreenstein5917 3 жыл бұрын
Time to drive Shamoo until the doors fall off....
@patrickoneill9650
@patrickoneill9650 Жыл бұрын
I would like to buy this pico scope can you provide info on a good probe kit TY
@Quickwrench75
@Quickwrench75 3 жыл бұрын
How much better would a pico 2205A perform over the pico 2204A
@wernerdanler2742
@wernerdanler2742 3 жыл бұрын
Franny, I hate to say it but I hate when you speak Greek. Lol When I went in the Navy, they tested my aptitude in different fields. I aced the mechanical part but totally flunked electronics. I didn't even understand what you were talking about with the MAF. I've never seen one with any kind of lever and I don't know what that does on your car. Does it open and close the throttle body butterfly? Is that because it is an early design or is it unique to Porsche? Anyway, good to see you and hope all is well with you and Heidi.
@AdamDUrso
@AdamDUrso 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Franny, I may have missed it but are you happy with how the car is running now, or are you still searching for an issue?
@thomasstorrs6345
@thomasstorrs6345 3 жыл бұрын
Can it test the flux capacitor?
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
I'll send Doc an email, but I bet you can... ;)
@martialthielen7675
@martialthielen7675 3 жыл бұрын
Bonjour Franny!!merci pour cette vidéo!do you think we can test compression on a vw beetle engine air cooled?thanx for your informative video,and greetings from France!
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Bonjour! You sure can. This will work for most cars. It really is primarily to tell if one cylinder is significantly worse than the other, but it is a great place to start.
@mikehammer4546
@mikehammer4546 3 жыл бұрын
So the final result why you initially weren’t happy with the performance was that the motor was a bit lean. When you took it into the shop they richened it up a bit and that solved the performance issue, right?
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much. I think the shop set the idle too high so I backed it back to spec (800). I still think the new air-bypass idle valve isn't consistent so I re-installed the original as well as the coil and it seems to be running great now. Our weather has been so crazy I haven't had a chance to get out and really give it the beans.
@ercando11
@ercando11 Жыл бұрын
So all along the electric (hiccup) gremlin was the DME relay?
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny Жыл бұрын
Funny, mostly the idle needed to be in the correct range BUT... There was also an issue with the alternator. After two rebuilds I just replaced it and all is good now :)
@ΠαναγιώτηςΟρφανός-ψ3π
@ΠαναγιώτηςΟρφανός-ψ3π 2 жыл бұрын
How can you setup the pico program to readout kilovolts?
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 2 жыл бұрын
You will need to use an attenuator if you are going to probe large voltages. In fact, the scope can't handle much voltage at all so it can be dangerous to attach to anything over 10V. If you need to probe an AC or any varying current you can also use a current clamp or competitive clamp (i.e. spark plug wires). Always ready the instructions before plugging anything in :)
@eddiegray793
@eddiegray793 3 жыл бұрын
So I missed what was wrong with the car ?
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
There initially was some stalling and then an idle surge.
@eddiegray793
@eddiegray793 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeidiandFranny so what was the fix ?
@tonys9413
@tonys9413 3 жыл бұрын
@@eddiegray793 So, you did not show-up for class, and now you want the teacher to repeat what she did in class just for you?!?!
@funkolog
@funkolog 3 жыл бұрын
now thats what I 'm curious girls. unfortunately I do not own a Porsche but i have pico scope i am still afraid to use.
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Give it a try! It is great fun actually. The worst you could do is to break something you aren't using I suppose ;) Just be careful of the inputs and when in doubt use an in-line attenuator. Pico has a ton of stuff on their site and of course YT :) Good luck!
@puopolvj2
@puopolvj2 3 жыл бұрын
Darn it! Out of stock. What have you done! lol
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Really? That's a bummer! I'm sure they will restock soon.
@puopolvj2
@puopolvj2 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeidiandFranny yup. Ive been wrenching on old german cars since I was a kid and this thing is a game changer.
@FixinBugsNStuff
@FixinBugsNStuff 3 жыл бұрын
It’s sound really deep throaty. 👍
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
It really does! It is bigger than the last muffler.
@stevenburdick424
@stevenburdick424 3 жыл бұрын
How does it run now?
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Running great!
@LooseNut099
@LooseNut099 3 жыл бұрын
Another tremendously informative video. Thank you so much; you deserve additional subscribers by a factor of 1000.
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@ScrubRadius
@ScrubRadius 3 жыл бұрын
This an incredible demonstration of how to apply modern technology to what are essentially old techniques. The Picoscope is a $100 Sun engine performance tester that fits in your pocket. I rarely learn anything new about cars. Today I did. Thank you.
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@randyallen2771
@randyallen2771 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I look forward to seeing "Pico scopes" as part of the evaluations on your future projects. Great work!
@guzf344
@guzf344 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best Porsche video's I've seen. I learned a ton! Thanks so much!
@joebeitzinger360
@joebeitzinger360 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos. You are scaring me with your hair so close to the a/c belt!
@southatlantagaragedoors6515
@southatlantagaragedoors6515 Жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've ever seen anyone use a test light to diagnose a bad plug wire and it's absolutely genius. I'm sure a lot of people already knew about it but thank you for teaching me that trick bc I've had so many problems in the past trying to track down a bad plug wire
@bobbymike
@bobbymike 6 ай бұрын
Seriously one of the best Pico scope and explanations on KZbin, awesome it really is awesome ....
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@MetalGuru965
@MetalGuru965 3 жыл бұрын
Frannie's living proof that Engineers never stop engineering because it's not a job but a calling.
@joanneshellings5457
@joanneshellings5457 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing and very interesting way to measure so many different parameters. Like it!! Thank you Franny.
@jameswieler3295
@jameswieler3295 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, awesome awesome, just added the pico scope to my Amazon wish list. thank you Franny
@graham6229
@graham6229 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Franny. Could you pop over to NASA and give them a run down ? How you do this is beyond me. I used to check running dimensions by sound through a tube at each carby inlet. You are an amazing women and I think Washington DC could do with your talents.
@PhilUKNet
@PhilUKNet 3 жыл бұрын
You continue to impress, Franny. My mainframe computer engineering career (long ago) started just after the time when computers had lots of built in diagnostics. Prior to that all people had were logic diagrams and scopes, and those early engineers really knew their stuff. Setting up, using and interpreting scopes is a rare skill these days but, just like everything else, you take in your stride. Great stuff!
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Still very useful I would say and you are right that interpreting the images is the fun part.
@mikejmardis
@mikejmardis Жыл бұрын
You did have a slight dip on your RELATIVE compression test that would have been good to zoom in on.
@maccoolmac5191
@maccoolmac5191 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Fluke handheld for the ignition only. Thanks you for the other uses for it.
@LSmiata
@LSmiata 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Heidi and Franny's Garage, NICE JOB! Game UPPED and looking like a modern master tech! I also like your point on using it for checking a used car. The price of the scope is less than a traditional compression test. If you do decide to pull a plug, you will see the amps drop on that cylinder to near zero, but the following cylinder in the firing order will go higher than normal (~15-25%). You will also notice this when your fist start the relative test. The first couple events get the crank turning and then stabilize on a good engine (compression close for all cylinders). Looking forward to more video. Mr. P
@HeidiandFranny
@HeidiandFranny 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, I did see that. I also needed to expand the scale a bit to get better resolution. Looking forward to using this more :)
@LSmiata
@LSmiata 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeidiandFranny Hello Heidi and Franny's Garage, Now that you jumped in with the 2-channel unit.......we also want more right? The 4-ch units are quite expensive, so I have a plan to purchase another 2-ch unit and use a second laptop/computer. May up the bandwidth on the 2nd unit, but at this point do not "NEED". The advantage will be screen space and following 2 vs 4 tracking lines per monitor! Much easier to read and laptops/computers so reasonable on price, it makes perfect sense.....at least in my thinking. As a fellow engineer, would like your comment as I sometimes go too tool happy! Cheers! Mr. P
@LSmiata
@LSmiata 3 жыл бұрын
LOL....and Pico probably did not thing of it, but 2 x two channels scopes will be the new standard. When I updated our shipping office I added dual monitors to each station. Now instead of clicking between Quickbooks and Excel/email/other, you just look at the other screen. Efficiency WAY up and our customer impressed for a small company. BAD news is if Pico reads this post, the price of a 2-ch will go up in comparison to the 4-ch units.......GRRRR! The scope by itself is not capable of supporting any viewing output and to my knowledge, the software does not currently support two monitors. Mr. P
@rainman7992
@rainman7992 3 жыл бұрын
I identify as a nerdy, mechanic type, Sheldon-esk I might add.
@rsbharley4766
@rsbharley4766 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video, thanks for sharing. Cheers
@bradypatterson8629
@bradypatterson8629 2 жыл бұрын
You are so rad. Thank you for sharing your sweet cars with us!
@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524
@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!! Been tempted by one of these for ages!! Looks like you've got a great result.
@jasoncassidy2517
@jasoncassidy2517 3 жыл бұрын
Was pin 2 the signal circuit? And does each channel need to be grounded?
@bluedeckelectronics
@bluedeckelectronics Жыл бұрын
Good video ! Thank you!
@sjllee2588
@sjllee2588 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you! Thank you for your wonderful video.
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