BUDGET FORGED N54 PISTONS & RODS UNBOXING X2

BUDGET FORGED N54 PISTONS & RODS!! FIRST IMPRESSIONS
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[@BEYTEK]

yes yes yes yes yes!!!!

[@BEYTEK]

the grove in-between first and second rings is for blowby relief helps with better sealing and anti pre ign.. CP pistons do the same, the holes on the oil control trings is to scrape oil and let oil back into crankcase :) the chinees piston has more wrist pin support than that apm one.. If it wwere me id get the chineese ones ceramic coated on the top and slick coated on the skirts and use them :)

[@BEYTEK]

kingtec rods look great

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Its almost like you know what you are talking about and have experience in built motors...... weird.... :P

[@BEYTEK]

@@ZeroTo60Tube haha. Done a bit. Here for the algorythm too.

[@BEYTEK]

@@ZeroTo60Tube ill start the awd series soon. Ill hit youbup for some title ideas lol

[@stevel1973]

Really looking forward to following the oily bits of this build. Should be fascinating. Shout out to Dave 2.0 for the additional camera work 🙂

[@gaboonviper85]

The black coating is a low friction material that let's the skirt ride the wall preventing piston slap on cold engine and stops the skirts of the piston from wearing down from rubbing the cylinder walls. Also the holes in the pistons by the oil rings is not for cooling. They are there to make sure the oil rings get a good source of fresh oil so they can do their job of adding oil and wiping away access oil.

[@BaldBozo]

One thing to note, sharp edges on the piston can make it more prone to detonation. Which might be a concern if you're want to run more timing.

[@InstaltechCarAudio]

This is true, around the valve area the cut that shoulders down to the middle that’s the weak point, the thicker the better

[@InstaltechCarAudio]

Aluminum alloys used for pistons come in a wide variety, with varying degrees of copper, magnesium and silicon content. Though each element adds its own special properties to the alloy, silicon content is a prime driver in the overall characteristics of the alloy. Hypoeutectic - 11% or less silicon content. Eutectic - 12% silicon content. Hypereutectic - Greater than 12% silicon content. In the piston business hypoeutectic alloys are referred to as low silica alloys, while eutectic and hypereutectic are referred to as high silica alloys. In short, hypoeutectic alloys posses a thermal expansion rate greater than typical engine block materials. This requires running higher clearances, which affect engine noise, wear and emissions. On the up side, these alloys are strong and well suited to extreme forced induction applications. Hypereutectics have thermal expansion rates equal to or less than the surrounding cylinder. Allowing tighter clearances to be run. Unfortunately they are brittle, and less tolerant to extreme cylinder pressures. Either can be used in an air-cooled engine, as long as correct clearances are insured and the right silica content is chosen based on your requirements. Keep in mind that the terms hypo/hypereutectic does not automatically imply that the piston was forged. Hypo/hypereutectic is only a description of the alloy used. Most OEM hypereutectic pistons are cast units.

[@InstaltechCarAudio]

In general the Hypereutectic alloys used for forged pistons, do not have a thermal expansion rate lower than ductile, gray, or pig iron. In OEM applications hypereutectic pistons are often installed in aluminum blocks making use of some form of low carbon steel alloy cylinder liners. In these cases, the liner's alloy is usually tuned to closely match the thermal expansion rate of the block material. Another thing to keep in mind is that overall thermal expansion is a combination of the alloyed used and the method of manufacture. Varying casting and forging techniques can yield significantly different expansion rates from the same alloy.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

I tried not to make the video overly technical as i know most viewers wont follow. However, i should have mentioned both pistons are 4032 (allegedly). Both of you guys will know what to make of that.

[@EricNordenfors]

People running stock piston ring gap specs could very likely be why stock piston ring lands fail often. The high temps and cylinder pressures eventually forces the rings together and when they cant expand more the ring land between them often fails. An issue quite common in Saabs running stock bottom ends on higher power. So make sure you gap the rings correctly for your ”target power level”! You might already be aware of this but its a good thing to mention just in case :)

[@nicolashoyt5341]

This is usually only a problem when someone has boosted an engine that was naturally aspirated originally. When you build an engine the rings come with instructions on what gap you should run for each application.

[@DG-ox6bg]

The reason Maxpeeding rods have chamfered ends is so they can be used with stock pistons. If they squared the ends like the highend rods, you would either have to machine them down, machine the piston, or use aftermarket pistons. Like the one's you have.

[@KingTecRacing]

the connecting rods small ends could be straight for big end tapered small end, it is very easy for us, we have so many machines to do that , if you need any pictures, we could share some with you.

[@KingTecRacing]

Hello, Friends from Team Zero To 60. Thank you for your video on KingTec Racing forged connecting rods and pistons. 1. Regarding to the questions or problems you have metioned, if there are any places to do it better, we will try to improve , like pistons coating, and piston rings pins, etc. Thank you for your ideas. the upgraded the piston pins piston rings, and coating are OK to do with customized requirement for lighter or heavy duty ones, from custom drawings. 2. Regarding to the connecting rods, our connecting rods have been tested by our own machines and many customers from 140+ different countries and areas, all of them like our quality. Our connecting rods are made from 4340 steel, the same like any famous brands in the world, and you may find that many famous brands products in your country or other country are from our factory, ( because we are doing both our own brand and OEM for other brands ） 3. Regarding to the genuine ARP bolts, we are importing from ARP bolts from America monthly, such as ARP2000, ARP L19 bolts, ARP 625+ bolts, for our own factory connecting rods. ( according to Clients reqruirement and orders. 4. All friends are welcome to discuss any technical topics together about the forged internals on different cars engines. Our team is composed of many experienced engineers, proficient in CNC machines and technology and forged materials. We are ready to cooperate with any friends to upgrade their engines. if you need help , please let us know. best regards KingTec Racing.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Thanks for the reply and care in your product

[@langsbr]

@kingtecracing do you offer any 2618 alloy pistons for the n54?

[@ashcadelanne8524]

Pretty sure this is what we put money towards, lots of information presented well and honest opinion. Great video and I’m so looking forward to seeing more

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

This was what i had in mind. Like i said in the video about the go fund me, i knew the lamik and 8 speed will work, but wanted to explore the budget engine options as well and try and form a non sponsored, none biased opinion on these cheaper options. I will deliver on that. Still dont know if the motor will last more than 2 minutes, but we will see. haha.

[@geordiegibson1210]

Hey Andrew, couple of things for your info. The top ring is called the fire ring, this controls the flame front from ignition and helps seal the chamber so the flame doesn't go further down the piston. The second ring down is the compression ring, that's the important one. The last set of rings are the oil control rings, thye literally let oil flick up the cylinder wall as the piston rises, then scrape the wall on the way down so oil shouldn't burn. The lower in the piston the compression ring is, the more balanced the piston is when ignition happens, which results in less side wall loading and wearing of the cylinder. Which is also why the coatings on the side skirts of the pistons, less wear on the bore means less wear, less likely to turn your cylinders into ovals. When you raise the boost in a car, the ring gap is the most critical, there are calculations as to how much further you need to open the gap. Don't open it far enough, and you get broken ringlands. Open it too far, and you'll get something that runs like a King's turd on your front lawn when not on boost. If the gap is too tight, the rings try to bind in the bore and create havok. Oh and should of said, AMP44 rings are OEM qualitly, they are decent rings, not cheap steel ones. FCP Engineering is American, FCP Euro is the main company. They buy rebranded Aliexpress/Alibaba stuff finished their way. It looks like your Chinese rods are all supplied by the same manufacturer, just packaged under the same name. I'm currently in discussion with one that may be able to supply forged alloy I beam rods (better for boost than H beam) that can withstand 250hp/cylinder..........and probably about the same price as yourMaxspeeding H beam ones. You've got my email if you want, I can ask ask about another set, as future proofing yours might be a good idea? As you guys know, I'm more than happy to talk you through what I know and try help you build things, so yell if you want help.

[@mikealkarout9555]

Wrong bud the top ring is the compression ring and by far the most important ring because it obviously contains cylinder pressure and transfers most of the heat from piston to cylinder walls.The top rings job is to try and contain 100% of the cylinder pressure and compression . Second ring is there to catch the tiny bit of compression /gasses that might sneak by the top ring gap .Today with piston ring technology and cnc block machining the second ring is literally just along for the ride . Many race engines and some production engines today use pistons with only a top ring and oil control rings ,no second ring at all .

[@igorigor9935]

Hello. Are your set already ready for sale?

[@mikealkarout9555]

Either set of pistons will take what ever you can throw at them as long as you say out of detonation . Both are 4032 forged aluminum and plenty strong . I don't get why someone would say the China pistons look like ''doodoo'' when they are forged and machined on state of the art cnc machines . The China pistons not having piston pin oiling holes is not a big deal because the N54 uses piston squirters and the pins will get more then enough oil . But if you wanted to add those holes a hour labor at your engine machine shop should be all it takes .

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Appreciate the sensible comment!

[@igotaction]

Be careful on the cut out for the squirters, if it wrong they will touch, the Kingtec looks like doodoo. Also, with different brand rods and pistons you really need to check fitment of the wrist pins with the rod and the piston.

[@cocko1135]

Love the honesty as per usual. I used to get cranky at my daughter for watching unboxing videos on KZbin and here I am salivating..... 😜. Can't wait for the builds. I am thinking the same in regards to your thoughts on why ringlands fail BTW. It has always been my way of thinking with this issue as well.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Somebody did mention in this comment section a reason that also makes sense to me. That being motors get hot, rings expand butt up against themselves then in to the cylinder wall. I like to blame bent rods, because that means we are making enough power to bend rods (woohoo arent we cool :|). However this explanation would more so suit my 17t failure. Where it died from the water pump not working. Not even pushing the motor.

[@cocko1135]

@@ZeroTo60Tube yeah, sounds plausible, they both do. Still, I like the sound of it just being too much damn power 🤣

[@MowerModdin]

@@ZeroTo60Tube sounds like a situation that would happen on my Northstars. Previous owner overheats it, rings expand, wear occurs, and now you have an oil-burning problem that can only be solved with a rebuild It's possible that the oil control rings could also be stuck together (usually happens with carbon buildup, not overheating), and a 2nd gear redline, then engine braking in 2nd gear immediately after redline would help free the oil control rings

[@nantan9453]

This is so cool! Hopefully Jake will help you get this motor together this week.

[@Respect_N55]

Very very very interesting!!!! Love the videos so much! Still helping years after fr!

[@StratoJohn]

I'm never gonna be in your shoes building a BMW engine with rods and pistons but your honesty is good anyway as I know a lot of people here are paying close attention. Glad to be tuning in again 👍🏻

[@Mr16bit]

Without seeing them up close it's difficult to pick one piston based on the machining. As long they have have taken out all of the stress risers and there is enough material where it needs to be they should surely be fine. Assuming material and heat treat is controlled for.

[@dodge360dart]

Piston skirt coating will definitely help! I have seen a few engine blocks back when these were new under warranty have block issues! Bmw had me do a engine block bare and install all the internals.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Interesting. So you have seen cylinder wall failures or issues with piston galling?

[@anthonywhelan8373]

Don’t muck around use the heavier wrist pins and pistons don’t worry about the weight just make sure you get it all balanced as a rotating assembly The parts are cheap compared to proper machining work like using a Tourque plate to hone the cylinders line boring the crank mains etc don’t skimp on the prep work and good luck 🤞

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Good points as always. I’m not even going to remove the crank from this motor, so it’s going to be half assed on the balanced front. But we’ll see how it goes.

[@anthonywhelan8373]

@@ZeroTo60Tube pull the crank and do it properly as bad harmonics destroy engines as well extra $500 and it’s all balanced and tunnel bored well and truly worth it they rev so much nicer and easier

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

​@@anthonywhelan8373 unfortunately its about $2000 more in parts just to take the crank out. With the insane amount of one time use only bolts holding the gerdle, main bearings, main bolts, crank hub, hub friction plates it doesn't take long to add up cost wise. I want to avoid taking the cranks out on the budget style builds. Its not the right thing to do, but its not worth doing a full build unless you are chasing that 1000+hp and spending the 10-15k to do it properly.

[@dcrasta]

The holes on the oil control ring land are for draining the oil control ring . The holes in the wrist pin area are to aid oiling of the wrist ping. Those chinese pistons seem to have less oiling access compared the the EMP pistons. Just a visual observation.

[@kencooper8636]

Andrew, my JE pistons have the protective coating like the Russian pistons and they also have a groove between the compression rings the same as the Kingtec Racing pistons. Also, they have 3 holes on each side behind the oil ring. It would pay to measure everything as one of the JE pistons supplied for my engine was different to the others in that the wrist pin hole was slightly lower which meant the piston was higher in the block. The carrillo rods have a large pin end like the Kingtec Racing conrods. Getting all rotating parts balanced is a must if you are planning to rev this engine to 8,000rpm down the track.

[@ethanlowrie8995]

I love this vid I have waited so long congratulations!

[@diontemel-brewer8611]

Did you ever run the built motor on kingtec parts? Curious on dyno numbers and the reliability aspect!

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

I havent yet.....

[@nonameyoutuber-l2r]

Could you please compile a parts list of the replacement items needed during an engine build? (gaskets, etc) That would be very helpful for the community. Thank you

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

I probably wont, because this is the 2nd one i have done now and i need a different set of parts than what i did when i did the motor in 2020. Every build will be different, unless you are wasting money and replacing everything. Which i dont do. Also working on parts for the 3 motor and that list is about twice the length of what i am doing for the flow max engine. I am also being really tight getting gasket sets from china and that sort of thing which most people will not want to touch.

[@Kh.J.]

The tapered rob its better and weight saving and that won’t affect the rigidity as the top only play roll in vacuum stroke while pulling the piston down.

[@1993kawasaki]

harder to balance the tapered rod as so much material has already been taken away

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Fair point mr Kawasaki however rods are already with in gram of each other.

[@joshuaquilliam2887]

@@1993kawasaki Take material from the wrist pin

[@Nico_335i_DCT]

Very nice stuff guys! I'm stoked to see this build. Btw, the camerawoman did a good job. She deserves a Team N54 t-shirt! Dutch regards Nico.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

She can pay for one like everyone else 😝

[@Scuffed_Andy]

Nice job on the nails Dave. 😁

[@melvingrimes7886]

The sharp edges on the top of the Pistons at the valve relief do matter. A sharp edge is where detonation will strike first.

[@ReignRegime]

I’ve been waiting on this vid to drop since the unboxing of the max speeding rods. I’m curious to see how this ends up. I ended up going with Carrillo internals for my build. Keep up the good work!

[@jacquesc20xe11]

Love the channel all the way from cape town south africa

[@weylinrenison7955]

How about that, van die kaap as well!

[@alexanderclark9537]

Run the AMP 44 pistons with the kingtech rods looks like a superior combo on a budget for strength and reliability

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

I am thinking similar. Put to be honest, the second motor will get pushed a lot harder than this one hmmmm.

[@alexanderclark9537]

@@ZeroTo60Tube well if it’s the first engine is for the twin turbo car just by how intense that thing pulls like a train through gears to redline then you may want to run two blocks with that combo cause the twin turbo car will have so much potential with those turbos and different fuels e85/90 or race gas so that engine will need to be the strongest as it will make power super early in the powerband and carry it the single turbo car will be na basically till 3000-4500 rpm’s when the turbo comes to so that engine would be okay with kingtech pistons or another set of amp44’s the maxpeeding rods are great rods my B5 S4 on 22 psi making 550 awhp and 510 tq revs to 8000rpms with built heads and cams which is 650crank ish hp and another B5 S4 here running big rs6/k24 hybrid twins making north of 600 awhp on maxpeeding rods for 10 years now hasn’t had an issue

[@alexanderclark9537]

@@ZeroTo60Tube also the dry film lubricant coating on the pistons is very important for euro blocks as it keeps the piston noise quiet/minimal as that can sometimes trip off the knock sensors which would tell the ecu to pull timing

[@drewdavis239]

Shot peened wont have as shiny a finsh. King tec rods are wider under the pin. On the main shaft... like a h.d. version. Arp does sell to maxpeeding its been confirmed

[@cornfedboost]

Id be using the amp pistons man far better piston design.. ringlands suited to high hp and abuse.. the sharp edges are more prone to detonation but they have put alot more though into it, the only thing I don't like is the machine work around the wrist pin area, radiused the wrist pin boss instead of leaving it flat like the china ones does take away its strength in that area as the piston goes from up to down and it's trying to tear itself away from the rod may be an issue I know its a noted point je likes to make on there pistons.. the upgraded wrist pins are definitely a must and a great idea good to see you got those over all the amp pistons looke the go for a budget option... coating is always a great thing helps for longevity and aids in cooling...i wouldn't use those maxspeedingrods with that little end like that not much surface area for the wrist pin to float on and may wear the pin prematurely even tho there designed like standard... fiy ethels compression ratio is alot less than 10.2:1 😊 keen to see this thing go together and make some jam

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Really appreciate your thoughts on this. Thanks man. With your build, what sort of comp ratio are you gonna aim for next time round? You definitely have the turbo to not lean on the comp ration too much, but then again, will be more street able with a higher comp.

[@cornfedboost]

@@ZeroTo60Tube yeah man definitely going for higher compression ratio this time round 9.5-10.0:1 it makes a big difference in response and drive ability so definitely going for more compression also means the turbo doesn't have to work as hard to make the power 😊

[@TML34]

The only question I have is the standard sized pistons. I understand it’s a “budget build”, but you generally want to go one size larger so you get a perfect piston fit. How expensive can an overbore at the machine shop be?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

About $2500 more by the time you remove the crank pay for everything involved in crank removal and then the bore job.

[@TML34]

@@ZeroTo60Tube hand hone it is then! 😀

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

That is what i have seen 2 people do who have rebuilt these things on the cheap. Removing the crank and the cost of the gaskets, bolts, crank hub kit, really surprised me to be honest. Bit of a shame really. An n54 that needs the crank removed in Australia is basically scrap metal.

[@Linoge279]

I curious to know on those chinese stuffs and Im interested to see how it hold up with your build with it.

[@drewdavis239]

Ringlands break because the piston top gets hot. Rings butt ends when they expand... buckle, and pop the ringlands. Run extra ring gap. Prevent brojen ringlands. "Stock bottom end" stock ring land gap. Thats why everyone breaks them. The cut in the king piston ringland may add strength? (Guess)

[@maxmoughal5183]

Wow this is really interesting and i totally agree with everything you said, thanks for sharing all the details.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Glad it was helpful! I hope you get to see Jay from real streets video on pistons that linked in the description. He explains piston features much better which in turn reflects on both of these offerings.

[@SteveMiguel]

Looking forward to this build

[@josesebastianpinto762]

did you finally use the kingtec kit? ...do you have any opinion on this?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

no unfortunately, there is a write up on spoolstreet about the channel and why

[@josesebastianpinto762]

​@@ZeroTo60Tube I will buy the kit today. I'm driving 680whp right now. and cylinder number 3 left the chat... greetings from Chile

[@ravszee]

Jake after andrew ill be next! hahaha. Im soo excited to watch this unfold. Russian kit looks really good. im gonna have to cop it

[@JohnLee-vj9lh]

Great video, looking forward to the engine build , good with it mate

[@ptaormina8010]

Love the channel, don’t stop the content.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Thanks man, this week has been horrible with flash flooding near us. No post all week :| and now we are stuck in a 20km radius...

[@danielaltran9500]

Hi guys, great content as always ! I was wondering if you have any updates on the use of the Kingtech pistons and rods as I’m considering buying a set of these. Thanks - Dan

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Not yet! They are still in the box unfortunately.

[@valchanovgeorgi]

Zero to 60: "Your cheap N54 build" Me wondering whether to live the month like a normal person or spend my whole salary just to keep the N54 from falling apart: *cries in eastern-european economy*

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Ohhhh man, i felt bad and laughed at this!

[@fabini14]

As a guy that work every single day on cnc machines, i can say for sure some things, Pins from the russian guy have better finish because is harder steel, the finish will never be the same when you have soft materials and hard material, russian pistons have way more machine work than the chinese ones, chinese ones have big radius and a lot more material because it takes way more time and tools to make small radius and remove the material, and when you are doing things to have low cost you will skip all the rest material process. I feel like russian pistons have way more development and better machine work than the chinese ones, will love to see all the measures with micrometer.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

I did plan to have someone have a look at them who has experience, but i think we might be short on time. I will see what i can organise tho. Thanks for your comment as always, it is appreciated.

[@davidmarion9178]

If they use floating pins they have to be lubricated no pin oiling holes on chinese pistons. What are stock ring gaps? What gaps are you going to run? Great job.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

The stock pistons don’t have the pin oiling holes so maybe the China version works that way, also have a feeling Jake’s mahle pistons don’t either…… but don’t quote me on that. I have a few built motor specs for ring gaps but need to speak to a few more engine builders to see what the general consensus is going to be.

[@loekfelten548]

Excellent ! Looking forward to the follow-up 👍

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Thanks! 👍

[@Saavvvv]

Andrew....... 🧐 Is that a shiny new TV you have there too?? 🤣 Only joking mate, this is awesome and glad to see the donations making the difference!

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Could probably buy about 20 of those tvs for the value of whats on the table lol. Not gonna lie i want a new one this old ass thing just wont die. Its not even a smart tv :(

[@thorrx7955]

Mate had coated JE pistons in his LS lasted a year and coating came off blew the engine so have to say not a fan of coating on pistons. Anyhow can’t wait to see you guys finishing this and ripping it down the track.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Do you know what coating he had and where the coating was? Keen to hear about this as coating seems to be all the hype with some companies.

[@thorrx7955]

@@ZeroTo60Tube literally how those are and they got JE Pistons which are rather well known pistons after a year developed a knock pulled the engine apart and all the coating bubbled up and chipped off destroying it. They went back to JE and couldn’t get anywhere they didn’t own anything. I found it rather interesting as JE is a known company. I’ll see if I can find photos of it and I’ll email you guys.

[@thorrx7955]

@@ZeroTo60Tube I’ve sent you photos on Instagram guys

[@crazygamer889]

Give away 👀

[@InstaltechCarAudio]

Don’t like the Chinese king package if I’m honest, ringlsnds crack due to high boost, how good are the pistons metal is super important, you want a high silica mix so they expand quickly from cold, if you don’t your get piston rattle from cold and your get overtime oval wear on the bores

[@UndergroundRacingCartel]

Love these updates

[@br4d101]

I would imagine the bit between the ring lands on the Chinese pistons is a stress relief point so they don’t crack as easy, the tapered end on the maxpeeding rods is something Subaru guys do to their rods, can’t remember why though, them Russian pistons with the tiny gaps for the oil rings at the bottom looks a little worrying, also what someone else commented about sharp edges on pistons is a big no no as it heats up as won’t flow smoothly over the top!

[@bimmerfab]

Lol never heard of lateral gas ports ?

[@br4d101]

@@bimmerfab I hadn’t actually! The groove is called accumulator grove in the Chinese pistons that I was on about! Never built that many engines in all honesty, a couple of ej20s and 1 ej25, my N54 is still wel n truly together n working perfectly!

[@bimmerfab]

@@br4d101 yep as long as it ain't broke don't fix it . Them little holes help with proving a better ring seal mostly aftermarket pistons have them im sure them may be used on some exotic motors from the factory

[@Mr16bit]

Nice to see camera Dave

[@friguy4444]

Andrew you are THE MAN! In a good way! LOL.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

hahaha, man thank you

[@OCOWGTR27]

Interesting you chose H beam rods, not I beam rods. Usually for boost I beam is preferred. H beam usually for high revving NA. Im sure even the H beams will be an upgrade over stock however, comparing to the stock I beam :)

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

make no mistake, this is all budget stuff. The only choices made were, what are the cheapest optioins.

[@1993kawasaki]

I'd put the Russian pistons onto the Kingtec rods just saying, also were you going to balance the rotating assembly?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

not properly...... but i plan to weight the rods and pistons that come off and list them 1-6 lightest to heaviest. Way the new rods and pistons get them as close as can be but then put them back on the crank lightest to heaviest in the same position. probabaly wont make much diff, but just might help.

[@1993kawasaki]

@@ZeroTo60Tube if you can maintain or replicate weights as close as possible it will eliminate vibration and premature wear, i know its a budget build but if matching weights from stock could be beneficial. ALSO bearing clearances, too much gap = low oil pressure. GOOD LUCK :) maybe view this HP Academy video: Rods - Are they balanced right out of the box

[@bimmertec]

fingers crossed 🤞 awesome bro hope u will make very great works

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

I will try my best

[@bimmertec]

@Zero To 60 u ar best bro u can do it

[@mikoajklijewski2245]

What was the protrusion of the piston above the engine block?

[@maximilianlindner]

I checked the serial (or lot) number of the ARP bolts that came with my set of Maxspeedingrods with ARP and they were genuine. Just fyi

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

My concern is they just fake it. However that is just a concern and lack of trust with suppliers. I’m not too concerned. I know a lot of people running peedingrods and not many issues at all.

[@jaydenpocklington1627]

On the flip side of this, what would be the recommendation for a non budget engine build ? Where would you be sourcing rods/pistons from if you weren’t trying to budget

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Vac motorsports is where I would start.

[@jaydenpocklington1627]

@@ZeroTo60Tube well after about 5 mins on their website I got my cart to $18,500 usd. About 10 seconds after that I realised I am poor and will continue watching your budget approach 😂

[@davidstevenson1211]

Arp head studs ? After market cams and springs ? After market head gasket ? Or ran out of budget lol Might have to hit John up from skid factory to help with the build

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Dude not even close to being able to afford that stuff. That would take it from a sub $3000 build to closer to $15k build in Australia,. BMW built motor stuff is expensive.

[@Zalle335]

Hopefully I can add to this. I cracked 2 pistons ringland but no bent rods from what I can tell. Single Turbo.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Interesting your rods are all straight. However i am now leaning more to some conditions only damaging the pistons

[@Zalle335]

@@ZeroTo60Tube If I recall correctly the logs looked fine, but it happend suddenly. So I have been thinking lean condition or needing a new tune. I serviced PI injectors, new coils/plugs, went from 7 to 7.5 fmic and fixed the charge pipes on turbo side. But everything looked fine in the logs

[@Zalle335]

@@ZeroTo60Tube i could grab some pics this weekend if you’d like.

[@igotaction]

Did we see New Dave filming??? For comparison purposes the M57 wrist pin is 30mm... FAT! Need weights and calipers to check weights and roundness

[@1993kawasaki]

that or Dave just got his nails done

[@igotaction]

@@1993kawasaki and hair, check the reflection in the TV😉

[@1993kawasaki]

@@igotaction i know, but i didn't want to point that out ;)

[@shawzymusic]

Dropping a new n54 in my car in a couple of weeks. Anything I should watch for after the install is complete and the car is driving again?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Only really keeping a close eye on temps, listen for any strange sounds or smells like oil or coolant leaking from anywhere.

[@johannyrodriguez5730]

Don't know if you mentioned it before but are you going to run two separate engines to test these product's or test one set and then rebuild with the other one's. Can't wait to see this all go down

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Will do 2 built motors. One in the flow max car and one in ohhrly. 2022 should be a great year for Zeroto60. If we dont go really fast, we learn.

[@vasolazovic3670]

Could you recommend good repair manual for engine building? I wanna do it myself

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Im sorry i dont really use those myself.

[@SuperHbkforever]

i could be wron here, and i know you have already installed the pistons, but it looks like the wrist pins were slightly thinner wall thickness on the Kingtek pistons VS the AMP 44. not sure if that was mentioned or if that is even true

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Yeah the AMP44 wrist pins were an upgrade option.

[@SuperHbkforever]

@@ZeroTo60Tube thanks for the reply! Cool, honestly man you and I have been doing all of the same mods all at the same time. I think I popped the very same piston you did while over heating my engine. Now I'm looking at building mine too and those Chinese pistons are looking really pretty

[@tyronedeacon6952]

FINALLY!!!! AMP PISTONS 😈😈🤟🤟

[@B0JACK]

Help out jake!

[@Azaautocare]

Can't wait to be done nice stuff

[@bimmertec]

how ar u Dave I saw your hands in vedio God bless always both of u amen 🙏

[@Meatcleaver101]

Boys ... Where do I buy IMPA... and the cable to run it all etc.. there are so many to choose from just want one that works with my X5 E53 4.4i Second question.. What is the best Auto Transmission for it? As always thanks in advance and I hope your Mum is going well .. much respect..

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Hello! So inpa/ista is hacked software, keep that in mind. Do some forum searching and find a recent thread on how to set it up. Then read and read. It is quite complex when you don’t understand it and if you don’t have a good understanding you will waste hours and hours trying fix little things when it stops working. Which it will stop. As for a cable for diagnosis any cheap k&d can cable is fine. For programming and flashing id reccomend something more expensive.

[@Meatcleaver101]

@@ZeroTo60Tube Cheers mate.. I basically have to remap the car.. keeps going in to German every now and then and is draining the battery because of some conflict between the ecu and one or two of the other boxes.. Yay for me.. Why don't they just have a "Reset" button that you hold for like 10 seconds and wham'o all fixed... like Windows with Control alt delete.. lol

[@djkinglz7019]

Love the channel, but maybe share the links to the stuff you talk about in your video.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

I don’t share links to products I’m not confident in. Because people blame me and winge and cry in messages if I say something is good and they have a problem.

[@rayraybhai6089]

Awesome vid! Check out n54 racing channel! John gago is the man. I am using the calico coated bearings and molnar rods! Using cp pistons!

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Been watching his vids, he's done the build right, no cheap parts there.

[@Nqmnqmiiii]

whats up with kingtec parts did you use them in some project ?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Yeah, but had a few issues not with the car havent gotten back to that car yet.

[@joshdornseif3284]

do you have a build list for the single turbo car anywhere?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

stock motor in the single turbo car

[@BiglumpADV]

I'm no engineer but given the Chinese pistons have more material left after machining than the others, why do they not weigh more? It concerns me the quality of the metals used. Personally I'd use the other set. The look more professional machining wise, and they haven't felt the need to polish the crap out of them....

[@Cevium]

It looks like christmas! 🎁🎅

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

It felt like it.

[@sergiovaloy4203]

I have a question I saw these on the site they say 1.5 bar for force induction/ supercharged that's not much boost

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

The China turbos used to be listed as only suitable for use at standard boost levels.

[@sergiovaloy4203]

I was referring to the amp44 ones but I guess we wait and see

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

@@sergiovaloy4203 Sorry i missed that, i guess its the same. they wont warrant them over that. Which is fair enough.

[@InstaltechCarAudio]

Amp defo, now go send them 👉🏻🤣

[@waseemmohamood1931]

What would the compression be on these pistons

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

These are all stock comp ratio.

[@igotaction]

What are the rods advertised as?? 4340?? 300M?? Hardness rating? Same for pistons... 2618??? I can help y'all with this but I need you guys to get a E series 8HP TCU to see if it can be done😂😂😂😂

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Rods are 4340….. pistons are 4032. As for the tcu I’m trying to get bdm level flash of an e series. Still working on making it work anyway

[@christopherjefferson3561]

Y'all should really done an N20

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Tbh honest would love one for a daily. Little tuned 4 cylinder makes a lot of sense down here in Australia.

[@dequeansteele1721]

@0-60 Do You have an Update on which set of Pistons and Rods you went with and your findings

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

yeah heaps of videos on it on the channel

[@dequeansteele1721]

@@ZeroTo60Tube Thank You; Love the Content!

[@dequeansteele1721]

@@ZeroTo60Tube do you have the link to order the MaxSpeed Connecting Rods

[@dequeansteele1721]

@@ZeroTo60Tube Found MaxSpeed Rods and ordered those and the AMP44 pistons.....Are they still doing well in your Budget Build? I'm basically going that same Route , China Turbos and All LOL

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

@@dequeansteele1721 because we got kicked out of our rental and problems with the trans the car hasnt been used in the last 6 weeks. The motor did a 5.5 100-200, the tune is very aggressive and so far its stayed together.

[@msalamlaham7129]

Aren't all N54 internals factory forged? Are these going in an N55 or something?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Forged rods, semi forged pistons. Both very weak compared to these. Half the tuned N54s in the world will have bent stock rods….

[@msalamlaham7129]

@@ZeroTo60Tube yeah that makes sense. I commented before seeing that the pistons and rods are actually alot beefier and better designed. Looking forward to this series, great work!

[@DakotaWebber]

Yooo no way is that monopoly in the background???

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Broooo you know it. Easiest way to get on the properly ladder!

[@samcawse5525]

What oil do you run ?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Castrol 10w60 on the higher milage n54s or anything we are running at breaking point...... soo all the N54s lol

[@nickm2397]

All i know is its going to be one fast e90

[@vrusso535i]

Did anything hold up

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Unfortunately the headgasket went on the motor, before it could really be pushed. Due for a new rebuild again now.

[@vrusso535i]

@@ZeroTo60Tube yea I just contacted them and the no longer make it for a n54 apparently and I blew a wrist pin threw my oil pan at 30psi the other night so now I’m looking for a budget build pistons and rods

[@vrusso535i]

About to buy amp44 pistons how do u like them

[@bimmerfab]

Bmws cylinder liners are most definitely not coated. Cmon Andrew you should know this you've disassembled them before

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

I guess you haven’t heard of alusil? Not sure which BMW engines have but a lot of them do.

[@bimmerfab]

@@ZeroTo60Tube I've of course heard of it but its not present in n5x motors

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

What about n52? C'mon you should know better than to say things that aren't correct..... and you've just done it twice...... :P Im having a dig. Just so you know in case you don't pick up on it, I try to never comment on anything that im not certain on, I will always try to lean on the side of "im not sure" in a video. Just so i don't risk misleading people. Someone will read your first comment and think "BMW cylinder liners are not coated" which is incorrect and then tell others that. Then people will see your second comment and do the same, which again is incorrect. As you have a semi reasonable understanding you should put a bit more effort in to not making incorrect statements publicly and keep in mind how it causes a lot of confusion for people learning. No one knows everything, the ones that do think they know "everything", are often the ones that know the least.

[@seanpaul3050]

No videos 8 days. I saw the flooding on the news. Looks really bad.

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Forced isolation, couldnt really do anything last week. Water everywhere, rain was too loud to film anything, power outages it was a crappy week.

[@dickvre]

Hello Guys, I don’t exactly know which part of east Australia you live but I hope all is fine with you and your family Regards

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Hi Dick, this week has been crazy for us. Our area was the worst hit until today, where Brisbane are now copping it. Still raining here but not too bad.

[@dickvre]

@@ZeroTo60Tube Good to hear you’re ok, time for it to clear up

[@bimmerfab]

No lateral gas port on either of the pistons. Not ideal

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Which off the shelf pistons have you seen for the N54s with those ports?

[@bimmerfab]

@@ZeroTo60Tube mahle, cp and je all have them maybe not je into level but there ultras have them

[@nonamebleach]

Is there a follow-up from installing these parts? I’m looking to buy rods and considering kingtec. I see a lot of unboxing videos but no follow ups on how they performed after some time installed. Do you have a flow up?

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Legit happening right now in the current videos

[@nonamebleach]

@@ZeroTo60Tube okay ill look for them. There’s a lot of videos and I don’t really know what ones are specifically that car with the kingtec internals.

[@BoujeeMotorsports]

Hey man they just sent me a set of these for free!! How do you like them. Kingtec

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

I still haven’t used them yet.

[@BoujeeMotorsports]

@@ZeroTo60Tube I’ll let you know what I think of them and how they do on the Dyno

[@lafrancebmw]

​@@BoujeeMotorsports, how did you manage getting a free set, thats up my alley...???

[@robertroden72]

Weight them

[@InstaltechCarAudio]

Well I guess there now no point using the Russian pistons now 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Man it's a bloody shame, i dont want to get political on youtube. All i will say is every Russian i have dealt with has been a nice helpful person. Genuine car enthusiasts. It's a shame that a leader thats some how been in power for 20+ years is used as a reflection of what everyone in the nation is like.

[@InstaltechCarAudio]

I know but nothing is gonna be getting out that country now, maybe sell the kit and go usa like JE

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

A great video from someone who actually knows what he is talking about..... kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXSwhn6Ahauqmck

[@easydayez]

Talks junk about maxspeedingrods but then buys or uses there product lmao!

[@ZeroTo60Tube]

Bizarre seeing honest opinions…. Big difference between their coil overs and con rods. Not just in price but how they are priced in comparison to competitors.

[@laurabailey8494]

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[@ethanlowrie8995]

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