re: Hostage Taker: The ability to play the permanent is part of the ETB ability that exiled the permanent, so Taker losing that ability is irrelevant because the ability already triggered. Similarly, if you had removed the Taker, you would have gotten back the Map as it's all part of the same triggered ability.
@MidgarMerc6 жыл бұрын
*Run 20 lands and cut 3 ramp spells in your 5 drop.dec deck* "WHERE ARE OUR LANDS?!?!"
@MelonGator6 жыл бұрын
frog revolt 49:16
@int3r4ct6 жыл бұрын
Seth can't seem to decide if he wants to call it Sifter Wurm or Shifter Wurm
@Jesin006 жыл бұрын
Hostage Taker has only 1 ability. It's a triggered ability that creates a continuous effect when it resolves, and that effect lasts until the permanent it came from leaves the battlefield. The "you may cast" thing is part of the effect. Overwhelming Splendor removes abilities, but it does not remove effects they have already created.
@notorioezz6 жыл бұрын
Overwhelming Splendor takes away the ability, but not the fact it's a Hostage Taker. You can cast cards exiled with Hostage Taker. So the card allready got exiled, therefor you can cast it even if Hostage Taker lost it's ability.
@obesechicken136 жыл бұрын
Are you a judge? That part sounds like the card's ability.
@pageofvoid68816 жыл бұрын
Nowhere on Hostage Taker does it say "You can cast cards exiled with Hostage Taker". If it did, you would NOT be able to cast the exiled card once Hostage Taker loses its abilities. The reason you can cast the exiled card even while Hostage Taker has no abilities is that Hostage Taker has the text "You may cast that card for as long as it remains exiled" as part of the triggered ability that exiles the card. Therefore, the ability to cast that card is not a static ability of Hostage Taker, but is instead linked to the triggered ability which has already resolved.
@notorioezz6 жыл бұрын
I never said that 'you can cast cards with Hostage Taker' was actually on the card. Relax there buddy. You just said it better, but I ment exactly the same.
@CeRockTV6 жыл бұрын
I think he might just be referring to the previous comment, so relax there buddy. ;)
@obesechicken136 жыл бұрын
I'm not being hostile. To me it wasn't clear that it wasn't a static ability. After all you can't cast the card if hostage taker is removed.
@Cookie_Nova6 жыл бұрын
A nice little piece of tech to do when an enemy has a Gonti on the field: whenever you are searching your library via Evolving Wilds or any other card, you can skim through your entire deck through MTGO pretty easily. If you have your decklist open in another tab or you just memorized what you brought in from the sideboard, you can easily deduce what they took. In game 2 against U/B control, the Gonti took one of your Sifter Wurms. You could have guessed it perfectly just by seeing the first still in your deck and the second in your graveyard. That leaves the third Wurm to be under Gonti's control. Not something that comes up a lot but it can provide useful in certain situations. A little scummy but it's not against the rules or anything.
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Good call. We could have figured out what our opponent had taken.
@sasukekuniski19596 жыл бұрын
how is it scummy? its your own cards and deck. if you have a search ability and you search for a 1 of,and they took it,its not your fault you know what they took cause you only have that 1 card. scummy is 100% incorrect word
@BlaineTog6 жыл бұрын
This deck absolutely should be running a third color. With so many ways to tutor up basics, splashing Blue for Riverwise Augur or Black for Fatal Push is a must.
@carter94496 жыл бұрын
Why not just baffling end for aggro? It's super cheap and can answer early game threats, seems easier than splashing black
@bryantan42286 жыл бұрын
Game 2: Is there a reason not to just slam Ixalan's Bindings on Nezahl? They are basically a Mind Rot and fog because they stun Nezahl and make your opponent discard slightly more than they draw. If you were holding it as an answer to Scarab God, you should have topped at 26:51 and used the spare to bounce Nezahl and force a discard. That leaves you more resistant to removal and time walks for a turn because they tap out to cast Nezahl.
@tomjackal57086 жыл бұрын
they draw a card and discard three, nezahal comes back on end step for free so no recast and still attacks
@bryantan42286 жыл бұрын
Tom Jackal Right, Seth shoulda used end step scries to try to end step flip Binding
@tomjackal57086 жыл бұрын
i guess? 1 sifter worm is a better answer than 1 binding tho
@ComradeArthur6 жыл бұрын
If you're worried about aggro, maybe main deck the haze of pollen. Cycle it if opponent isn't aggro - you'll have the mana!
@cloaking1116 жыл бұрын
Unbridled growth does work for this deck, replace the renegade maps and you gain card draw from your ralliers, you'll also need a manasink for the later turns so I suggest 2 of both deserts even if they aren't the most effective in your deck and even if it takes the budget thing out.
@andrewmarinkovich86576 жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to see somebody make a Standard deck that uses Aid From the Cowl to good effect. This is pretty sweet. Nice and janky and really fun when it works. Also helps that your opponents generally have no idea what you're doing.
@ma5ticore6 жыл бұрын
As far as I remember, Seth used Aid in his treasure revolt deck. Look it up, it's as satisfying as you would expect.
@Kaowaul6 жыл бұрын
The ability to cast the card exiled by Hostage Taker is part of it's ETB ability, and is not a static ability. The ETB ability has no duration, only a condition. Being able to cast the exiled card is not a separate ability but part of an ability that has already resolved.
@GlitchX6 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you use Ixalan's Binding on Nezahal sooner?
@penguinbomb776 жыл бұрын
they could just use it's ability to exile it in response, and they would also draw a card
@zacharyethridge80536 жыл бұрын
MetaPenguinBomb if he had kept the second one on top he could have done it two turns in a row and they would not be able to stop it.
@ODIRGO6 жыл бұрын
yup, the opponent draws 1 card and looses 3. for the next turns the opponents wont be able to keep up. the bindings in 3 consecutiveturns and nezahal dies.
@GMStarson6 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm just slow, but since it's a token copy, wouldn't exiling it for the ability make it poof when it goes to exile?
@jordanwillis95436 жыл бұрын
it was reanimated with lily so it was the real deal
@Lantalia6 жыл бұрын
The abilities on Hostage Taker don't matter after it has exiled something, as the conditions are attached to the card in exile
@schwarzertee75866 жыл бұрын
well hostage taker's ability triggers when it enters the battlefield. it is part of that ability that you can cast that card or it remains exiled as long as you controll hostage taker.
@DPharos6 жыл бұрын
Whaaa you are basically playing my deck! Underplayed indeed! Coolness that you discovered it too
@zdude17936 жыл бұрын
Finally some more Standard content from Seth! :)
@wesleyperry31936 жыл бұрын
Love this deck man! Thanks for making it. Sifter is so much fun and under played
@Artaimus6 жыл бұрын
Games 8:20.
@HoneyCultured6 жыл бұрын
I was doing a version of this deck for a while very fun casual thanks for the footage super fun watching😊
@karfsma7786 жыл бұрын
Sifter Wurm setting you up another Sifter Wurm is like Pelakka Wurm drawing you a Pelakka Wurm, except mildly more consistent, and you also set up two other cards (or put them to the bottom).
@jackpabich7636 жыл бұрын
I love Pelakka Wurm!
@sasukekuniski19596 жыл бұрын
pelekka is better than shifter any day.. best wurm ever printed. help me beat valakut and control
@mikeheckman78826 жыл бұрын
The ruling for the hostage taker is similar to gonti’s in that as long as the card is still in exile, but takers case it has to be alive, you can cast it. Even though it’s a one one it still is hostage taker.
@lazarus84726 жыл бұрын
The deck is really interesting and I think there's something here but I don't believe it's the revolt package. Both Overwhleming Splendor as well as Sandwurm Convergence are such massive game enders that I think setting up a ramp package with some interaction and taking advantage of Wayward Swordtooth to just spit lands onto the battlefield quickly might work better. Take out all the revolt cards and enablers and maybe Wurms and Splendors can just carry us to victory!
@markharland24596 жыл бұрын
Casting the card exiled by Hostage Taker's triggered ability is a part of the triggered ability itself, which has already resolved. So being able to cast the card even though Hostage Taker has no abilities is correct.
@zippity616 жыл бұрын
With twelve bits of "pick your favorite basic", I think I'll be playing three colors. Black lets us fatal push and, do we want hidden stockpile to scry even more? Don't *really* need it for revolt but it is an option there too. Hmm...
@MrJet2256 жыл бұрын
Seth, the next time I hear you call that card "Bonded Courier" I'm going to unsubscribe from the professor.
@ma5ticore6 жыл бұрын
seems legit
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Do what you want with me, but leave the professor alone!
@gemyniraptor86266 жыл бұрын
Casting Hostage Taker targeting the Professor, bold move Cotton
@WestCoastPicks6 жыл бұрын
Do it anyways. Nobody cares.
@DylanHunter646 жыл бұрын
My guess is that he calls it that because it reminds him of the 1 Mana artifact from Origins called Bonded Construct. At least, that's how I justify it.
@obesechicken136 жыл бұрын
The deck looks fun. Especially the combo between sifter wurm and aid from the cowl! I'd tried aid before but it was just too random for me in a revolt deck on magic duels. A shame you ran into 3 budget decks though playing draft chaff like crash the ramparts.
@BrunoCasagrandaNeves6 жыл бұрын
"Playing some frog revolt" I just wanted revolt to work, this is a pretty sweet mechanic. I'll give the non-budget version a spin!
@foxyr4bbit6 жыл бұрын
did you tell your opponent about stormtamer's ability?
@dudeofvalor92946 жыл бұрын
The rallier seemed so good in this deck think I would want three maybe even four. Overall sweet deck and agree settle the wreckage just adds so much to it if someone was to build a non budget version.
@ToxicallyMasculinelol6 жыл бұрын
sandwurm convergence is such a sick card. everyone was knocking it when it came out, like hurr durr 8 mana doesn't do enough but it's a really cool card. same with all the big enchantments from that block. i wish it was still in standard
@ToxicallyMasculinelol6 жыл бұрын
convergence, cruel reality, overwhelming splendor, they're all such badass ways to grind out a game
@rockgod2276 жыл бұрын
Hostage Taker with Splendor is legal because Hostage Taker ability isn't a static ability, it's a triggered one.
@pfeffer17296 жыл бұрын
"Shifter Wurm", "Safer Wurm"... Gotta love Seth.
@embarkingolive6 жыл бұрын
Hostage taker's ability completely resolves as it etb's. It's not a passive or triggered ability.
@ChristopherWolfftickytong6 жыл бұрын
Why no Settle the Wreckage? That seems good in the sideboard
@KebbieG6 жыл бұрын
Can you redo this deck in Modern? Curious to see if it is good enough in that format. I think Jace would be a great fit with this deck.
@ForFutureUse6 жыл бұрын
Spires of Orzacka
@jackpabich7636 жыл бұрын
Why not side in the Thrashing Brontodon against that last matchup? Good blocker, cheap cmc, and can blow up artifacts
@razvanrusan93196 жыл бұрын
Super cool deck! They should make an expansion named "Wurm Revolt"!
@stephenlofton54036 жыл бұрын
Did you experiment att all with explore when building this? I always thought Path of Discovery would be up your alley.thanks for the content Seth deck is awesome!!
@lilispoon3696 жыл бұрын
I just woke up so in the first match when seth said "fatal pushes the wurm" I totally thought that it was the sifter wurm and seth was so nonchalant about it because he was so concerned about the treasure map
@Sniffhow6 жыл бұрын
That triple Lost Legacy play was so fucking good
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't name Sifter Wurm with the third one. If they had we wouldn't have had any realistic way of winning.
@stephenhousman69756 жыл бұрын
That last game I would have taken out the curses, a sandwurm, aid, and 3 bindings for the life gain package. Wouldn't even think of removing the "ramp".
@BBBr0ny6 жыл бұрын
Wayward Swordtooth I think is my favorite Dino from the set. And there are a lot of good Dinos. I just like playing lands and getting ahead on mana.
@FranciscoMota_CS6 жыл бұрын
This might be my favorite deck since Eternal Witness / Astral Slide in Standard. I think I'm gonna build it.
@randym58246 жыл бұрын
"Our opponent missing land drops actually helps here..." Well who'd have thought... lol Sweet deck.
@Dan1loBC6 жыл бұрын
Oh no, Seth, probably better known as SaffronOlive, you sideboarded away your amulets in the last game, but they were basically lands! I also think you were really greedy in leaving the really high cmc cards in after sideboarding AND cutting your virtual lands! You were playing a high CMC deck with 24 lands, 8 being super slow (renegade maps, evolving wilds)! :O The deck is INCREDIBLY sweet, though, 10/10 would watch again!
@SilverAlex926 жыл бұрын
Seth why didnt you tried to ixilan's binding the nezehal? yes the op draws a card, and then discards three, but eventually he wouldnt be able to keep discarding for him. And then you scryed to the bottom the second binding. What was your line there? I know you were looking for wurms, but didnt you tried to fight the neezal in the mean time? Awesome deck and games tho :)
@ToxicallyMasculinelol6 жыл бұрын
wow that was weird, i never noticed the opponent taking so long, one moment i just looked at the timer and suddenly he had 3 minutes left lol. what was he lagging so long on?
@faceoctopus45716 жыл бұрын
1:24:16 Why didn't Seth attack? Playing around land destruction or something?
@dariroch6 жыл бұрын
Authority of the consuls would have been great against the pirate deck and wasn’t even looked at
@melissagrenier22006 жыл бұрын
dariroch How many of the Pirates have haste?
@narwhalcetacean1446 жыл бұрын
Seth, what are your thoughts on going blue for Riverwise Augur and Reason//Believe? For more ways of getting your big stuff on the battlefield reliably.
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
It would be pretty easy to splash a third color, Riverwise could be good. Not sure about Reason//Believe since a lot of our big finishers aren't creatures.
@rayward6236 жыл бұрын
I really like this deck. Good job.
@lilymelodie71286 жыл бұрын
as an upgrade that doesn't increase the budjet but lower it, I would remouve all the Wayward Swordtooth and two traveler amulet and remplace them with two other Renegade Rallier and four narnam renegade
@ebradicator96 жыл бұрын
28:48 Set up our AIDS
@ComradeArthur6 жыл бұрын
How do you decide where to play on MTGO with budget decks? You can play competitive leagues, casual leagues or these single matches like you did on this vid. Would you expect much different results if you had used it in league play?
@ZoidsNut6 жыл бұрын
1:23:25 is there a reason the Earthshaker Kenra didn't make the Swordtooth unable to block? Mtgo misclick? Edit: nm I need to RTFC.
@turnemsideways1916 жыл бұрын
Any upgrades if budget isn't a factor?
@PhoenixXZY6 жыл бұрын
So what would you add to this deck as a less budget option? (in case I happen to have more expensive cards to add).
@99fork6 жыл бұрын
PhoenixXZY Check out the article on the mtggoldfish site. There's a link in the description. He always posts ultra-budget and non-budget decklists.
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
There's a less budget list here: www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-60-20-tix-wurm-revolt-standard (still not super expensive, but had some upgrades).
@KiuhKobold6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit I always thought the wurm on the image was just comically silly but no, their eyes ARE under their jaws. Wow
@Sethsters6 жыл бұрын
So etiquette question: In the match vs UW Auras Seth correctly noted that the opponent could have won the game by sacrificing Siren Stormtamer. Is it ever acceptable to point out to your opponent when they make misplays (obvious or otherwise) like that one, or is that considered rude and unwarranted in every situation? I tend to lean towards the latter, but then again experience is our best teacher and that realization could help the opponent become a better player going forward. What say you?
@Sethsters6 жыл бұрын
+Matthew Tedeschi bummer. Well I really enjoyed watching your match.
@jackpabich7636 жыл бұрын
I'm the type of person that would comment on that after a match to make sure they understand, but not in between games in case it comes back against me. For things more casual I'd comment between games.
@dudeofvalor92946 жыл бұрын
Sethsters 91 I would tell them afterwards. That way they don't make the mistake again but you shouldn't help your opponent when playing competitive as you are there to win (after having fun first of course!)
@sasukekuniski19596 жыл бұрын
i dont play for fun
@razvanrusan93196 жыл бұрын
Upkeep scry, End step scry Name a more iconic duo. I'll wait. :))
@francescoc49506 жыл бұрын
but this is similar to the mithic revol trasure ramp! I wanna try this build, too!
@samkroes28566 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason you didn't bring in Authority against Grixis Pirates? Seems Aggro enough to warrant a slot.
@melissagrenier22006 жыл бұрын
I don't think saving 2 points of damage is worth giving the opponent 4 extra cards when you're at 13 and have caracel in hand. Just got to 6-8. You can climb back out out of burn range.
@obesechicken136 жыл бұрын
Doesn't flickering nezahal just get rid of it since it's a token?
@warwerewolf7776 жыл бұрын
28:27 You should've checked your deck to see if Gonti stole the worm since you were worried about it
@chrisramb06 жыл бұрын
20:40 "Alright, AIDS is coming down"
@mapiwnl6 жыл бұрын
Seth, how do you afford all of these different mtgo decks? And play leagues?
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
I'm lucky enough to be able to borrow the cards I need for making videos. I've got a decent sized collection, but then I use borrowing to fill in the gaps.
@Janshevik6 жыл бұрын
isn't the account linked to MTGGoldfish company? Since looks sort of a company that wouldn't have problems affording cards.
@fingerling12316 жыл бұрын
The deck is sweet but Seth not binding that Nezahl so opponent had no cards in hand put me on tilt.
@OccamsLazer6 жыл бұрын
Why are you calling it UB Control when they didn't play a single counter spell the entire match? Wouldn't that deck absolutely qualify as UB Midrange?
@iwakuralain30646 жыл бұрын
49:16 Good ol frog revolt
@purplexeno8196 жыл бұрын
1:02:45 he can't counter the binding with Stormtamer; it can only counter spells that are targeting something, and the target for binding isn't declared until it enters the battlefield.
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Stormtamer is weird since it can counter spells or abilities.
@kairohnwalker6 жыл бұрын
Is there like a schedule for standard videos? That's what I'm here for.
@senseibuh5276 жыл бұрын
NeoKyKy there's always one standard decktech on tuesday. Wednesday and thursday can be anything. Gameplay: monday, tuesday and thursday can be standard.
@Janshevik6 жыл бұрын
oy revolt! was the dino playing standard pauper?
@elibroide6 жыл бұрын
What about splashing black for hidden stockpile? Revolt + chump + scry
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Could be sweet. Would up the budget a bit to make the mana work.
@ronankelley77686 жыл бұрын
I think gift of paradise instead of wayward swordtooth for the life gain would help
@raulalmeida67436 жыл бұрын
Seth annihilating Ixalan with his "Orzaca"
@TehSeksyManz6 жыл бұрын
I think Renegade Rallier could belong in a Modern budget Zoo deck no doubt.
@Sevolin6 жыл бұрын
Seems like the 3rd match was against a dude who brought his draft deck to a standard league.
@Molly-ml1wn6 жыл бұрын
This deck is literally the plot of Frank Herbert's "Dune"
@Enja_Near6 жыл бұрын
Imo sentinel totem would be much better for the deck than the crook, costs 1 less mana to play, no mana to pop, and you get a scry for your renegade.
@Nathan-lw3nd6 жыл бұрын
10:24 you missplayed grabbing evolving wilds rather than renegade map. As renegade map guarantees an untapped land and revolts.
@JustAnotherPest6 жыл бұрын
1:15:31 200 yard punt from opponent.
@ODIRGO6 жыл бұрын
those missplays with the bindings!!!!! damn, it was and easy one.
@LordNeoZ6 жыл бұрын
Why does the Nezahal has the multicolor card background?
@lukesdewhurst6 жыл бұрын
LordNeo zombie made it black
@LordNeoZ6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@heccdood82756 жыл бұрын
"neh-zah-hal" please no more "nezalalalal"
@Jesin006 жыл бұрын
Nizzlehizzle.
@gemyniraptor86266 жыл бұрын
Arnold voice NEZALALALAHAHAHHAALALAL
@Rococorico6 жыл бұрын
I'm turned off from trying anything Green before Dominaria becomes legal. Llanowar Elves will be big players in this Standard.
@Jonzin4BeatzNYC6 жыл бұрын
That naya dino deck looked like a draft deck
@foodreact34876 жыл бұрын
Anyone notice the rising levels of PJSalt?
@Niniju89706 жыл бұрын
That first matchup was definitely midrange.
@derrickdansby476 жыл бұрын
Was able to beat three modern decks with this one
@Kurse_of_Kall6 жыл бұрын
13:25 it's a replacement effect
@Jigsawtwig6 жыл бұрын
This deck is 20 tix but I think that naya dino deck was .2 tix.
@lucasenraraujo6 жыл бұрын
First instinct while watching the decktech: "20 lands?? Play at least 22 and cut a couple of those Traveler's Amulets" Edit: And Seth manages to not get mana screwed this time, how weird...
@BlockishScarecrow6 жыл бұрын
They're necessary for Revolt triggers and they basically count as a land, same with renegade map
@lucasenraraujo6 жыл бұрын
Oh I know, it's just that if it was me playing I'm pretty sure I'd end up mulliganing a lot my starting hand for having no lands in it (even though a probability of having
@BlockishScarecrow6 жыл бұрын
Yeah there's probably some changes I'd make too like an arch or orazca or 2
@claudiopulento62216 жыл бұрын
technically the artifacts are addittional lands. if I'm playing mana "rocks", then I too minimize lands and mana screw is not really a thing...
@lucasenraraujo6 жыл бұрын
claudio pulento the artifacts do help, but they're not proper lands. In the very last match Seth had trouble finding lands and I honestly expected that to happen a lot in a 20 land deck, that's why I suggested playing 22, which is still a low number but it would make me more comfortable piloting the deck. Consider if you need a land for the turn and you draw a Renegade Map or even a Traveler's Amulet when you are behind. And those are different than mana rocks since they remove lands from the deck, reducing even further the chances of drawing a land next turn...
@petersmythe64846 жыл бұрын
(13:20...) Must be a bug. That does not seem right. Comments say I am incorrect...
@MTGGoldfish6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've been meaning to check into that, it felt weird to me that they could still cast the Treasure Map, but it could be right according to the rules.