Budget Wooting 60HE - Redragon FIZZ K617 Magnetic Switch Keyboard Review

[@loserpilledgaming]

Honestly for budget ballers this is all you need, it's like a no frills wooting

[@itssamueltan]

Yeap agreed!

[@echo021]

Excellent review! Great quality video, too. Love the desk mat!

[@itssamueltan]

Thanks! Thanks for leaving a kind comment too

[@SgtStarSlayer]

I agree the usb opening is in a bad place. it wouldn't fit in the fancy resin cases other 60/65/68% keyboards can.

[@itssamueltan]

For me I just hate that I can't use any of my cables because of the angle

[@Awaks]

​​@@itssamueltan Just get a usb C 90°/L shaped adapter fam 😂. We've got *at least* 6 female-male usb c adapter shapes in the tech world for good reason lol

[@infern0_ak]

anything in full size ??

[@itssamueltan]

As of now I think the only full-size is from SteelSeries, the Apex Pro

[@infern0_ak]

@@itssamueltan THE PRICE BRO😥

[@TheRandomPeoples]

This keyboard is amazing I’m so happy I bought it today

[@itssamueltan]

That's great!

[@antoniowilliamssy8008]

Looks interesting, it seems HE rapid trigger is now becoming a new meta in gaming along with lightweight mouse and glass mousepad.

[@itssamueltan]

Faster and better performance for gamers

[@AgentWafflez]

Is the 8k polling automatic? I cant find a switch for it on the software.

[@itssamueltan]

Yea it should be on automatically

[@alienjonas633]

Can I use the low actuation Point on my Ps5 or can I just use the Hall Effect Feature on a Pc

[@itssamueltan]

If you set the Actuation point in your PC and save it, it should be the same once you use it on your PS5

[@jammies701]

Nice vid mate

[@itssamueltan]

Thanks!

[@Wakie6240]

What is the differente between Fizz Pro K616 TKL and the Fizz pro K617 pro ?

[@itssamueltan]

The layout

[@DaudasVlr]

Has compatiblity with Raptor or Gateron Switches?

[@itssamueltan]

Honestly I'm not too sure, they have a different bottom design for the HE switch. Maybe if you file down the feet they can fit

[@brian856]

Im not sure if i missed it but i was wondering if it supported the analog movement similar to wooting. Where you can do partial key press on wasd to move very slowly.

[@itssamueltan]

Hey it should be possible with the software, under DKS or MT but u need to mess around in there to really find out

[@d3vox576]

Hey man can i chose diffrent actuation point for every key or i need to have them all on same rapid trigger and the ones i dont want i put them on normal actuation??

[@itssamueltan]

You set each individual key with their own actuation points

[@HUGO.-]

Guys, please help ,When I try to connect it to the PS5, it appears to me as a mouse and does not work anyone knows why ?

[@itssamueltan]

Hi, I'm not sure why tbh but maybe this can help www.playstation.com/en-us/support/hardware/keyboard-mouse-ps5/

[@mohammadbaqer8305]

Will it give same performance in gaming as wooting ? Or there is noticable difference

[@itssamueltan]

Well tbh, the specs are comparable. But Wooting has a much better software and it's more effective to use. So for me paying more is worth it if you're really competitively gaming

[@Ghostly8alls]

Great video. Thank you

[@itssamueltan]

Welcome!

[@clockcycle]

What's the difference between the M61, K683 and K617 if any other the obvious cosmetics? Has there been a teardown?

[@itssamueltan]

The M61 and K683 are the same, they have the same internals and case. The K617 just has a different case and keycap design. I think the internals are the same for all 3

[@kurukiddo]

How is this keyboard for FPS games like Valorant and CS2?

[@itssamueltan]

It's great, much more precise movements and less delay

[@soysaucepro1343]

is this the best budget wooting keyboard if i do not want to mod the keyboard? i was deciding whether to get this or the DrunkDeer G60

[@itssamueltan]

Hmm the drunkdeer G60 definitely looks better imo. But I think they both sound the same

[@guranottrader7008]

Do you know anything about the ZiFriend M68? It's also a magnetic switch keyboard.

[@itssamueltan]

Yes I have, and I think it's the same keyboard tbh

[@Yosr27]

Does it work on ps4

[@itssamueltan]

Yap

[@adamsekkat593]

should i get this one or the atk68 ?

[@itssamueltan]

Well the atk68 is double the price and seems to have almost the same features/specs.

[@adamsekkat593]

@@itssamueltan hmmm but i dont really trust red dragon and i hate their software so idk

[@itssamueltan]

@@adamsekkat593 hahaha I see, then maybe just get the atk68

[@clipztv98]

Does it have snap tap? Or whatever the programming is called

[@itssamueltan]

As of now no, maybe in a future update

[@limitlessvoid5806]

hey, i was wondering if i should buy this or the wooting 60he

[@itssamueltan]

Get the wooting if you can afford it tbh

[@isaaclemes8721]

is it compatible with the ps5?

[@itssamueltan]

Yes

[@navvey]

@@itssamueltanhow do i make it work

[@TTv_twizzy822]

Dose this work for ps5

[@itssamueltan]

Yes

[@newer4644]

is this different than redragon fizz

[@itssamueltan]

This is the redragon fizz tho

[@newer4644]

@itssamueltan oops i meant redragon fidd which one is better?

[@itssamueltan]

@@newer4644 they are basically the same, just look different. So go with which u prefer

[@MikeNovelli]

Is it worth it for a $35 open box?

[@itssamueltan]

Kinda tbh

[@MikeNovelli]

@@itssamueltan I bought one yesterday.

[@Nerdkon]

Is good for fortnite For fast eidit key pressingM

[@itssamueltan]

Will be slightly faster and better than mechanical keyboards

[@Nerdkon]

@itssamueltan i want that feeling just pessing little bit will activate the key not going all the way up to reset and activate again I think it is called rapid trigger i guess

[@Erikhol001]

Is this better than the other k617 fizz with no macro/rapid trigger. Also is his better than the RK61? Its got a way better usb hole but this isnt a big problem for me tho. But redragon looks 2x better And the rk61 has wireless and 2.4hz so i dont really know

[@itssamueltan]

1. Yes, rapid trigger support for gaming is better. 2. It's a better gaming keyboard, but not a better keyboard. It's Magnetic Vs Mechanical. Depends on what you want. 3. If you need wireless, the RK61 would be better. As magnetic keyboards don't really work with wireless as of now.

[@Erikhol001]

@@itssamueltan wow, fast reply. I thought i would have to wait some days before you replied. I think im getting the magnetic tho i am gaming and i dont need example wireless. Thank you

[@itssamueltan]

@@Erikhol001 nice choice and welcome!

[@Erikhol001]

@@itssamueltan ❤️

[@Whehaba]

This or the Boyi 66pro?

[@itssamueltan]

Do want want a knob?

[@Whehaba]

@@itssamueltan no not really just a keeb for gaming

[@itssamueltan]

@@Whehaba hmm then having a knob to adjust audio while gaming is nice too

[@Whehaba]

@@itssamueltan is boyi66 pro reliable, especially the system, also what does the knob do?

[@WeakestReality]

Does it support ps5?

[@itssamueltan]

It will work, but not sure about the software tbh

[@Тимур-й3в1е]

k701 or this

[@itssamueltan]

I think it's the same PCB and Switches, just the case and keycaps are different. Just pick which one you prefer

[@jujernaulte]

Can i trust there software??

[@itssamueltan]

I think so

[@jujernaulte]

@@itssamueltan would you rather choose redragon k617 fizz or k500?

[@itssamueltan]

@@jujernaulte k617 looks better to me

[@hungerforarts734]

Hi, does this comes with metal base or is it 100 percent plastic build?

[@itssamueltan]

The case and materials are 80-90% plastic, only the plate is steel

[@KiênPhan-w9q]

can i put some pe foam 😅

[@itssamueltan]

Yes

[@zaiiiiin.__]

For a price infinitely cheaper than wooting… They really need to make it a bit more expensive if the keyboard is this good..

[@itssamueltan]

Well, cheaper is good. But the software needs some work

[@Soudani-hx7yf]

There is around 11 ms delay on the keyboard you’d be better off getting a non magnetic faster keyboard

[@itssamueltan]

You've tested the delay?

[@Thomas751Himself]

wait really?

[@TheBigGiant_SpaceChiken]

I like the idea of magnetic switches for gaming, but at the same time, I see them as a gimmick. Unless you are a pro gamer that needs every little advantage you can get, the magnetic switches are kinda overkill for the average player IMO. But I do like the fact they don´t have pins that can accidentally bend when putting them on the keyboard. As far as the 8000 polling rate, that´s kinda overkill as well. That high polling rate puts a lot of stress on a CPU. A 1000 polling rate is more than good enough and it doesn´t tax the CPU as much. And yes, the location of the USB C port on the side is just dumb.

[@itssamueltan]

I agree with most of your points, but we need products like this to slowly push the markets forward as well. Competition is also great for us users, so in the future we can get better products at lower prices. As for now, magnetic switches are more of a gimmick, but maybe in the future it will become the standard.

[@baka_ja_nai]

Nah, even usual gamers can see benefit in shooters. The fact that key press turns off instantly makes strafing just feel better.

[@shockat5070]

sweaty gamers have their keyboards at 90° angle so the cable on side is not that bad, we're lucky the cable isnt on the other side though 😂

[@faraonbre]

Not really, polling rate is not hard on CPU, if you think it's the same as 8k with mouse it's day and night difference. Everything else is technology going forward, 20 years ago they thought 100hz polling rate is good enough. Also missed the point completely on magnetic switches, the advantage is that you can set them as sensitive as you want, you can trigger them in multiple places depending on the setting (half push for walk, full push for run), you have rapid trigger, SOCD. Comparing them to mechanical switches for gaming is like comparing a wooden cart to a car. For office it doesn't matter of course, but for gaming and FPS especially, it's light years ahead

[@g33k_Tech]

never drift keyboard

[@itssamueltan]

That's one way of saying it 🤣

[@shockat5070]

what?

[@g33k_Tech]

@@shockat5070 bro never heard stick drift?

[@r6skizzy]

@@g33k_Techstick drift in a keyboard wth is that

[@KiênPhan-w9q]

can i put some pe foam 😅

[@itssamueltan]

Yes

[@KiênPhan-w9q]

can i put some pe foam 😅

[@itssamueltan]

Yes