Shin Megami Tensei 3 Nocturne HD Remaster - Puzzle Boy All 20 stages

[@jojobnah8532]

-Finished Puzzle Boy -Random encounter -Stoned Demi-Fiend > attack > death -Here I am writing this comment and using the guide

[@deejay9198]

I would've quit the game for like a week what the fuck

[@jojobnah8532]

@@deejay9198 I IMMEDIATELY searched for a guide because I knew wholeheartedly that I would never do it anytime after I drop it now..

[@elifrazier1291]

I was playing the ps2 version when this exact scenario happened to me... worst 2 hours of my gaming career ever

[@koichihirose7704]

this just happened to me :(

[@justincox399]

F

[@FullmetalX4]

I take back every single bad thing i said about Matador.

[@TheREALHugo4]

Matador was an easy challenge compared to this mini game.

[@sachi3673]

Matador was ez

[@БогданКрименюк]

*I would like to apologize*

[@m0n0ct0]

Matador is my friend, Pyro isn't

[@jeremyfriesen2965]

I beat matador in my second try. Attempting stage 8 tried 20 times failed every single one

[@LightbladeRiulo]

Never had I want to kick the shit out of a child for taunting me so god damn much. Shout out to the legends who did this a couple decades ago without a guide

[@rahyansuryaramadhan7082]

@@TentacleShark Oh hey, this is the exact same guide that i use for this shit

[@m0n0ct0]

sure they had a guide available already, we're talking about mid 2000s

[@All_Ice117]

I didn't use a guide, but asked for help for 2 of these. Took me 5 HOURS solving everything 😵.

[@poopoo-dk4hu]

When I was a kid, I enjoyed this but as an impatient adult this infuriates me to no end lol

[@philphillips7892]

@@All_Ice117 Six for me with a lot of smoke breaks.

[@atom4532]

unironically the hardest part of the game

[@mysticvetenks]

Yes that fact you cannot save and come back was ridiculous. Got about half way and took me a couple hours to come back to later to realise I need to start from the beginning. You bloody need it to get the all Matagama and pierce I think though?

[@GeaForce]

Man, I really hope Atlus doesn't end up making a puzzle game about pushing blocks

[@heinsenberg5874]

And on 2009 that happens with Catherine lol

[@kik9387]

@@heinsenberg5874 thats the joke

[@D.rewman]

They actually made a game for Game Boy called Puzzle Boy, that's what Nocturne is referencing with the minigame. It had the same mechanics with the block pushing, turnstiles, filling holes, etc

[@nickjonas4317]

@@kik9387 he obviously got it he was just being literal about it

[@anonamatron]

@@D.rewman That's Kwirk, the chilled tomato!

[@starc3968]

I love how this entire comment section is filled with people’s PTSD (Puzzle Traumatic Stress Disorder)

[@Someone-td3rp]

I liked this game

[@starc3968]

@@Someone-td3rp you might be the only one, buddy

[@Steineer.]

@@starc3968 lmfao exactly

[@pastyIe]

@@Someone-td3rp Some opinions just aren’t meant to be shared. Like yours for example.

[@TamatDragon]

I’m sooo happy I found those who mocked me😂😂😂 FREE WILL PREPARED THE MEAL AND SET THY TABLE . Now feast

[@xaldrortenderofthevats8948]

The Manikin Massacre was justified, and this is the cause.

[@jeffreydyess1220]

Haha what an underrated comment

[@IrregularHunterDash]

You know, Chiaki was right to commit genocide. Maybe she played this and was like “damn now y’all got to die.”

[@jackour8167]

Honestly, if "kill the maniken kid and take the magatama" was an option I would definitely take it.

[@rvfiasco]

YAAAAAASSSS

[@ZLScratch]

Except this kid isn't killed. Every Manikin except for the one that actually deserved to die.. died.

[@eduardosolistinoco9698]

if you could save and leave between levels this whole be a near non-issue, but having to do it in one go is an unreasonable thing to ask for the players

[@patrinizer346]

I agree. This should have been an option for the HD remaster. Without a guide or a walktrough, each level is very time consuming, if you don't know how to beat it.

[@TM521HS]

Literally

[@Cless]

@@patrinizer346 yup. hours for one puzzle at the end

[@aleaiactaest6503]

Nocturne is the definitive game of "I would have never beaten this as a kid"

[@anonamatron]

This puzzle mini-game is a gameboy game I had and beat without help as a kid.

[@LTDLetsPlays]

@@anonamatron smart or creative kiddo

[@anonamatron]

@@LTDLetsPlays Well I didn't beat it in one sitting like you kind of need to do in SMT. It was a whole game. My parents liked Game Boy puzzle games, which was basically their only visible interest in gaming ever so I always tried to get as many puzzle games as possible and we'd keep them out on the coffee table and pass gameboys around during TGIF and evening sitcom time..

[@liammccbyrne4184]

Opposite for me since I completed this as a kid but now I am giving up and looking up the solution.

[@BARBARBINKLE]

I beat puzzle boy as a kid but it genuinely took me a week and I had to get help from my dad

[@genokugel]

Holy balls this abominable torture to body and soul is back.

[@sturm2186]

Read the lore of them

[@m0n0ct0]

those manikins did enjoy their torture days

[@m0n0ct0]

@@mlc369 yeah, I'm sure he's not the only one

[@TamatDragon]

I’m sooo happy I found those who mocked me😂😂😂 FREE WILL PREPARED THE MEAL AND SET THY TABLE . Now feast

[@sonicrider321]

Thank you Atlus for - Not having this be timed - Letting you undo moves - Letting you restart - Letting you push as many times as you want - Only 20 stages (unlike Rapunzel with 150 in Catherine) - Once you finish, that's it - Giving us a Magatama for my time

[@jackour8167]

Screw you Atlus for : -Not allowing us to suspend it.

[@thestarfromyugioh]

@@jackour8167 And: -Not letting us keep the Magatama through NG+

[@Jekunda]

Thank you Altus for: - Having me going through this nonsense again on my 4th play through

[@FMEGA516]

Imagine if the kid pulled the plug at the last second, and was like whoops! Forcing you to do this a second time

[@TamatDragon]

I’m sooo happy I found those who mocked me😂😂😂 FREE WILL PREPARED THE MEAL AND SET THY TABLE . Now feast

[@slothrop9345]

Even with a guide, this is fucking ridiculous. This is a genuine torture device. If you could stop and come back to do the rest and still get the Magatama, wouldn't be too bad. Having to do all 20 in one run is evil and if I ever find out who created this mini-game and meet them, I will accept the life-time in prison.

[@Yeayeayeayeayeayeayeayea]

Based

[@johnw6667]

The people who had to go through this puzzle with no internet or guide of any kind your either super amazing or super insane, cause this is just, woof

[@anonamatron]

When it was called Kwirk, on the game boy I beat it all without a guide. I didn't remember all of the levels during SMT and ended up looking for help..

[@FSVR54]

Internet (and gamefaqs) was already widespread in 2003. I swear zoomers think the early 2000s is like the 80s or something

[@foxhound6364]

This was a cute little distraction that LONG overstayed its welcome. The fact that it takes 12 minutes just to play out the stages already knowing the solutions is absurd. Did they really need 20 stages?

[@timothystigers807]

Wanna know something truly evil? *There were more of these stages in the game's code.* They actually *cut* a good 30 of 'em. The in-game puzzles are only 40% of the existing content. Check out the link if you wanna know more: tcrf.net/Shin_Megami_Tensei_III:_Nocturne/Unused_Puzzle_Boy_Maps Granted, the devs never intended to make the player play 50 puzzle stages in one sitting, judging by the page. They had some concept of mercy.

[@foxhound6364]

@@timothystigers807 Oh God, that sounds torturous. I suppose if you encountered a few machines across the game with 10 stages each, it might have been fun, though. I was thoroughly entertained for the first 7. I was glad it was over by the tenth, and then dismayed when it kept going and just cheated with this guide. I think ten at a time with a few hours between would have been fine.

[@videorelaxant2780]

@@foxhound6364 yeah maybe a couple for each "town"

[@steam-powereddolphin5449]

@@timothystigers807 There are 30 unused Puzzle Boy maps leftover in the game's files. The developers cherry-picked the maps that would be the most *"fun"* and *"balanced".* There are also a few maps that are too easy* or are too hard, so they were also cut out. Note that the maps below are not sorted after used and unused. *(Could've used a few of the easy ones, at least)

[@m0n0ct0]

maybe the folks at Atlus believe that sleep is some kind of ailment

[@theend473]

When someone tells you Nocturne is hard, it ain't the actual game they talking about. It's *this abomination right here!*

[@edwardsuou]

Honestly after beating Axis mondo in Catherine full body (as well as some other smts games considered more easy) I was ready to move on to a tactical brutal turn based hell, and...... oh my gosh! When did I sign up for this??!!! This makes seem the freaking QI test a cakewalk! (I’m a psychology student so I’m pretty used to analyzing tests and this is just for insane people)

[@setiawan2791]

​@@edwardsuoulmao bro

[@John_Doe3rd]

"They say smt is the dark souls of jrpgs ......... and it's for good reasons"

[@Astralevin]

"The Dark Souls of Persona"

[@giotanschell5466]

I thougt that dark souls was a jrpg

[@patrinizer346]

This make Professor Layton look like a game for preschoolers

[@e.m.8978]

And I really thought I could do this without guide Now I understand why the mannequin we're enslaved for good

[@kingnewgameplus6483]

"You know, I heard the horror stories about puzzle boy, but this doesn't look so ba-" *half of the video is the last 5 puzzles* "oooooooh."

[@MooeysAura]

Imagine just finishing this and you leave and get obliterated in the first encounter you come across.

[@valletas]

This literally happened to me TODAY Like its the first time im playing nocturne and i died from a nue using mamudo Man i hate how old smt games use dark/light im so happy smt 5 made it not be unfair

[@SuperFusionAJ93]

The Good: The Kichijoji Remix The Bad: The Mini game itself

[@zomboids2100]

The ugly: manikid expecting you to play all 20 stages without pause/saving

[@EthVortexShield]

@@zomboids2100 the manikid lol

[@JoelPerry1]

I beat it without guides (it took a week), and took 5 steps toward the save point, before I was immediately petrified and killed. True SMT moment.

[@0megazeero]

*Legends say Einstein used to check if the manikin puzzle boy wasn't under his bed before going to sleep*

[@denikusuma3357]

this little devil mini games, still haunt me, and they bring it back

[@Lucario7280]

I will confidently say I couldn't take it anymore after Stage 19.

[@ellamayothethird906]

this is where im at 💀 video slowed down to .5 and i still cant fucking do it

[@NeoDanomaru]

The worst part about this whole mini-game bullshit is that it's REQUIRED if you want to get the Masakado Magatama!!! And the trophies surrounding the Magatama in general!

[@jackour8167]

But hey you can't say masakado isn't worth it.

[@skydivisionx]

I'll take mot using beasts eye, makakaja and megidolaon over doing this

[@the_j_machine2254]

He doesn't do that in HD Remaster.

[@KamenracerX]

How about a trip to the Second/Third Kalpa with Riberama on? At least you get EXP an items for your time. Unlike this sinkhole, where in 3 hours, at best, your reward is a single Magatama. Just Geis. And you must do it in one go too.

[@skydivisionx]

@@KamenracerX it's the sole reason why I don't like doing more playthroughs, getting all the magatamas is something I love doing, but man.. puzzleboy is such a damn nuisance LOL. The funny thing is, we were supposed to have more levels too..

[@ThirdEyeZenkai]

me: has flashbacks of nearly getting wiped by bishamonten's opening turn in bandou shrine... also me in digital devil saga squaring up against yamato-no-orochi: don't you f*cking do it... sigh* you're totally gonna do it. yamato-no-orochi: 🐍

[@faletepower694]

OMG this minigame is actually harder than any boss I've encountered so far, and I challenged Matador, Daisojou and Hell Biker.

[@briand.r.2626]

This is what puts the "shin megami tensei" in nocturne.

[@raidb0ss29]

Thank you so much for this. No more wasting 2 hours on this. Pro tip. Slow down the video, that's how I finished this madness

[@mrsgamer9218]

Tnx for the tip love

[@masterofbloopers]

Shit! Why didn’t I think of that?! Here I was pausing the video literally every second!

[@patrinizer346]

I wasted 3 hours just trying to get to stage 13.

[@KamenracerX]

No exaggeration, I did the whole damn thing in 3 hours without a guide. I cried for at least ten minutes after taking the stinking Geis because of frustration. ...You would think after replaying this game 10 times would make me remember the solutions. Would rather grind in Amala with Riberama on than play this without a guide.

[@doctorwho3708]

At what speed?

[@pierrecamilli8978]

Good from Atlus doing a puzzle game with a whole side RPG mini-game included

[@Briskicedtea06]

Man I love nocturne but this is the worst thing I’ve ever done in a video game

[@OneLeggyBoy]

Hikawa: I sleep Some Random Ass Puzzle Game: *Real shit*

[@dimitri7371]

They fucking knew that everyone would skip this puzzle so they put a freaking Magatama as a reward to force us to complete this shit.

[@yudiandre333]

I spent 7 HOURS playing it in the original game.

[@Neogears1312]

It’s funny how everyone gets this angry over a puzzle in comparison to ambush spawns that instant kill you, bosses that infinitely give them selves more turns, and a literal hallway of death.

[@asianjackass237]

You know why? Cause this minigame forces you to do it all 20 levels consecutively WITHOUT PAUSE. That would be like if you are forced to fight 20 ambush in a row and win NO PAUSE in order to progress

[@moister3727]

Insta kills are funny at least. Like, I remember being killed in Kalpa 5 after some serious progress and just laugh for 5 minutes straight

[@deejay9198]

Why couldn't chiaki take care of the kid one too

[@patrinizer346]

Thank you for making this walkthrough. Worth playing for the Healing Magatama, but use a walkthrough. I wasted so many hours just trying to get past stages 8 and 13, only to find out that it gets even harder. To those who beat all 20 in one sitting without a strategy guide or a walktrough, you deserve a medal.

[@Chilletid93]

Holy fuck. I initially felt bad I had to refer to a walk through by the 12th puzzle, but seeing how insanely difficult it continues to get, I don't feel bad at all anymore.

[@platinumskulls4490]

Well after beating Nocturne I can easily say this was the most difficult part hands down

[@Squiddy0912]

There's gotta be something in the Geneva Convention about this, right...?

[@amirtheweirdo2189]

I'll take Lucifer over this torture chamber any day

[@jackour8167]

Frankly you take lucifer in the game ALL the time LMAO

[@souptranssonis]

From what im seeing in the comments, something tells me im gonna cry.

[@starmaker75]

*in yoda’s voice* you wil be, you will be

[@ZeromaruAgito]

As Atlus says "We get off on your tears."

[@ShardsOfStone]

I think you will have an easier time 1v1ing the matador without any buffs on a fresh playthrough.

[@SkateSean2125]

I just finished it my first time without a guide. 5 hours of brain seizure taken out of my 30 hours current total of playtime. I rushed back to the save point while switching to Merciful mode so I can never do that trauma factory again.

[@m0n0ct0]

At least your eyes won't burn from spendings hours in front of the screen trying to solve this. Those tears will be your friend

[@blackfrost5124]

Next to Staff Roll, Puzzleboy is one of my favorite nocturne OST's !

[@rac1equalsbestgame853]

This short as hell loop is so fucking catchy

[@xwiller6]

The thumbnail brought me PTSD I forgot I had

[@CrowCrojoINTJ]

honestly I'd rather redo all the kalpas without using my map or anything than to do this puzzle game without a guide

[@randomnobody2145]

everytime i replay this game i have to watch this guide. i dont know what i would do without you buffie

[@chungustouchdown8737]

This is real Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne experience

[@poohNTheSkiMask]

Manikin kid hardest boss in the game

[@masterbubs8271]

....Not that nightmare again :( At least the remix of the Kichijoji overworld theme from SMT I still sounds awesome. Update: I beat Puzzle Boy due to the vid. Thanks BuffMaister 👍

[@SolarisKane]

I made a Steam guide where I give you credit and link to this video. If you don't like that let me know and I'll delete the guide. Awesome video btw! I love how quick and efficient you are with the puzzles.

[@WinterFox1000]

ah Puzzle Boy, just as annoying now as it was back on the ps2. Thanks for the vid buff, always get stuck on stage 8

[@jeffreydyess1220]

That was when the fun stopped for me too lol

[@wolfsbane7224]

There is no way I would've done this without help. Thank you

[@SoniaLawliet]

Omg thank you so much, I had the patience to do the first 3 levels only x'D

[@TheRedfieldWay]

omg thank you SO much for this. this was a nightmare without your guide

[@ArveEriksson]

You are doing a great service to humanity.

[@adnvdn]

Me at stage 1-4: Oh hey, it's Pyro Jack! This is such a cute puzzle game Me stage 5 onwards: p a i n

[@masterofbloopers]

I consider myself pretty good at puzzle games, but nothing could have prepared me for Puzzle Boy.

[@smulanlpg]

0.25x speed on second monitor, and this is actually beatable.

[@mariahshetler438]

Thank you so much! I never would have had the patience to figure this out.

[@TM521HS]

It's hard even when following a guide. No way I could do it without

[@repeldark]

thanks for this you legend. even with this guide it was a nightmare

[@feralking3000]

There's no way I could have solve these on my own haha thank you

[@dantemustdie00]

This is the only thing you really need a guide for

[@genokugel]

What about the Blood Temple and Tower of Kagutsuchi?

[@Venombot21]

@@genokugel *Did the man stutter?*

[@genokugel]

@@Venombot21 n-no sir I'm sorry

[@Scoreos77]

@@genokugel tower of kagutsuchi is straightforward once you get used to it but there is no conditioning to this devilspawn of a minigame

[@ave_maria323]

Maybe the fairy escort quest if you don't know about it

[@ZenryokuFGC]

truly a huge time saver, thanks for the video

[@mysteranonymous7773]

i feel like i lost braincells for trying to process my brain hard

[@OrochiDictator]

This was the most frustrating thing i've ever played in a videogame ever.. There was absolutely no way i was doing this without a guide! Need to access the secret world to 100% the game and im "finally" glad i have all the Magatamas now after grinding and everything on Hard Mode, thanks!

[@christian03y]

First few stages: "wow, it reminds me of Chip's Challenge! Nice mini game!" Few stages later: "...aight Imma head out"

[@Lenaihd]

When I completed the mini game, I did forget that I was playing SMT

[@iMete0r62]

Holy shit thank you so much! I was going crazy with this mini game.

[@mechamind9569]

I really wanted to do it without a guide. I broke at stage 12. Holy Shit.

[@patrinizer346]

I know how you feel. I called it quits after stage 13. It was driving me insane.

[@Bacharel93]

I loved this puzzle! I know that I have spent almost two to three hours doing it, but this song was my motivation. To this day, sometimes I still remember that song.

[@matthatter56]

I want to like it. It's a great idea but the fact that you can't save and that it has way to many stages and that kills it.

[@MrBacchus18]

Thanks for the video, I could not be arsed to figure these out for myself. Feels like a cell phone game.

[@velvetcrowe5548]

Thank you for this!

[@omegaweapon116]

Thank you for this. I got to stage 8 and was like screw it.

[@Crispio99999]

Same

[@TheAce24]

Holy smokes… Talk about impossible. Thanks so much for the guide! You saved my bacon!

[@christianrosa2368]

You're awesome. i remember doing the puzzle when Nocturne first came out... Yeah. Not going through that again.

[@the_priest_of_holy_moon_cult]

*crying* all the countless restarts oh the pain and dreary eye!!!

[@EminenceAlpaca]

Hardest thing in the game. Props to you for figuring it out so we could use the guide. (Actually maybe the battles are hard I just have White Rider Dionysus and Daisoujou)

[@brotbrotsen1100]

These are pretty good for that part of the game.

[@NightBlazer7]

Even with the solution this is still a chore

[@InvertedWIng]

I literally have no memory of this. Maybe my brain erased it to protect my mind from madness, but not only do I not remember ever playing this minigame, I don't even remember it EXISTING. I clearly solved it though, since I got all the Magatama. Did I really solve it all on my own? Did I look up a walkthrough (which would have been incredibly tedious since it would have required reproducing all the steps displayed on some ASCII art on GameFAQs 'cause there was no KZbin back then)? Or am I experiencing a severe Mandella Effect?!

[@dieehrensklavin]

i love you, kind stranger. thanks for uploading this

[@eriklarson5874]

This fucking Manikin is the most evil villain in all of Megaten.

[@Torbulous]

I did this before going to bed, but I didn't realize how much there were so I ended up giving up just before the last one... Apparently you don't get to pick off where you left off... Thanks to this guide I was able to quickly make it back to where I left off. The should have added some sort of save feature : (.

[@amirulnizam9416]

as hard as it is, i like this puzzle game to be it's own thing. that way i can play it without the urge to go back to the main story.

[@FaizalKuntz]

This single handedly makes me quit replaying nocturne

[@PedroLucas-ix8tx]

This is the true nightmare sistem

[@BobbyCorwen42]

Despite the first 18 puzzles being fairly tough already, the fact that the last 2 take up a third of the video time is pretty outrageous.

[@ZLScratch]

You know this is bullshit because the Hardtype mod, which is intentionally trying to make the game harder actually just lets you buy this Magatama.

[@MrSTVR]

Completing the magatama collection is worth this torture. JUST.

[@222CBK222]

Thank you for ending my suffering...!

[@kuruso6736]

thank you so much man for ths guide

[@KuroReisho]

This video was 12 minutes long but for me it was 24 minutes

[@vtrfddgjjf]

In 2003, I was an elementary school student, and there was no KZbin thing. I remember that after stage 10, the guide of game magazines was almost useless

[@PA-NI-NI]

had to pull up a guide years ago for this shit now here i am looking at a guide for it but in hd

[@warnacokelat]

Thanks man. I owe you one.

[@KASDNLQUR]

thx a lot for the video. Truly the SMT III development wanted players to suffer.

[@NathanHigiers]

I don't know what's more infuriating about this game : The Kaplas, random OTK encounters, the amala temple or THIS ?

[@Gerudo-King-Ganondorf]

tfw you stay up until 1AM doing this 😑

[@thechrissguy]

Atlus not investing on a new Jack Bros./Puzzle Boy spin-off is criminal.

[@yolinhoz1724]

all of this for a fucking healing magatama i cant with this game