A USA Made Ballistic Helmet! Hard Head Veterans ATE LITE with Adept Up Armor

[@StriderCZ]

In testing that Oxide did on helmet materials, he found that PE was better suited for spitzer bullets, but degraded faster across multiple hits. Meanwhile, Aramid helmets are more reliable against multiple pistol cal impacts. Iirc, his conclusion was that PE helmets were slightly better suited to Mil use, while Aramid is better suited to LE use, where handguns are more common

[@BuffRANGE]

That seems to coincide with that we see here vs the ATE 2 Aramid plate.

[@Robbie0311]

Thanks for doing this, only test I can find for this helmet

[@BuffRANGE]

Glad I could help

[@sionsoschwalts2762]

Very glad to see the inside mesh tested! I've been curious about that for a while and this definitely helped. Please include the name for the up armor plate/slaap in the video title as I know people have been searching for videos of this before. Can you try the adept armor nova steel helmet next? It is very cheap and seems quite durable.

[@Bubz-vb3uc]

Just used your discount codes for a set of plates from tactical scorpion, pretty sweet discount.

[@JJUkraine]

You nailed it: for combat helmets you’re more worried about fragmentation at least in near peer conflicts than bullets and weight so you can move quickly to avoid drones and take cover etc.

[@BuffRANGE]

Thank you!

[@kungfugirevik657]

Jim Bob's brother is named Billy Bob, of course.

[@BuffRANGE]

Billy Bob didn't make it.. :(

[@danielblackburn4626]

I think they need to add a layer of cured carbon fiber about 2/3 deep. This would mitigate deformation and potentially help with preventing delimitation. Some Non-Newtonian fluidic foam would also help just before the final foam layer.

[@generalbakedpotato6150]

Looks like an improvement over the the older imported helmets. Seems like the need to sinter the UMWPE or use a strong epoxy to keep the layers together more.

[@generic_sauce]

Was hoping for another helmet test, also hoped you'd test this brand!

[@Xiraken]

Where do you get your hands on m855 5.7x28? Are you reloading them yourself?

[@BuffRANGE]

I surely wouldn't tell you 1.57" OAL with 6gr of AA7 is the aforementioned load :)

[@qwe304]

​@@BuffRANGE poor man's ss190

[@jcnikoley]

I never noticed before, but that wood bust looks like you. I’m guessing you carved it yourself. A lot of artists put them selves (likeness) into their work.

[@BuffRANGE]

I paid my dad's friend to carve it. If I had to guess my perhaps in my dad's likeness?

[@sheepkashur3308]

Any chance you can test that micro lattice padding for bfd on any helmet? Considering hhv has been obscure in the past about their helmets and accessories, i wonder if the lattice is true with the bfd performance

[@BuffRANGE]

@@sheepkashur3308 well they have to send me a new helmet with it.

[@technicaldifficulties2522]

Is there a US based company that makes somewhat decent ballistic helmets that wont cost me a buttload?

[@BuffRANGE]

A Highcom is about $600.. Or there's Protection Group Denmark. HHV is also making their Gen 3 ATE in the US. I would ASSume similar performance to the Highcom and PGD: www.highcomarmor.com/product/striker-ach/

[@waterishdrake8693]

I found one for just an arm and a leg!! The premium option is still wanting a buttload! if you know of a US company offering an arm and a leg for maybe a finger and toe lmk.

[@technicaldifficulties2522]

@@waterishdrake8693 I ran across the Acelink brand on Optics Planet.. but I try to avoid them (OP) at all costs. It was under $400 if I remember correctly.

[@Jackawolf2]

Buy a used mich or ech under 500

[@youtubesucks2369]

I think venture surplus has mich type in stock

[@MegaElite83858]

I wanna say Boot Actual took one of their ATE helmets and shot M855A1 at the helmet at an angle (for a realistic scenario) and it ate the A1 round. Would like to hear your thoughts. Seems like a lot of people in the gear community hate on this brand for the simple “pressed in China” issue.

[@BuffRANGE]

Do you have a link to that? A1 destroys level III PE panels down to subsonic velocities. Perhaps the angle caused the bullet to traverse on the outer edge of the helmet structure?

[@MegaElite83858]

@ for sure, kzbin.info/www/bejne/naKkkoenaah4a6Msi=cPTLCfJuJe_JYS95 It didn’t stop the round entirely per say, it rode the frame of the shell but wasn’t a clean punch through like I was thinking

[@MegaElite83858]

@ should be around the 16:40 time range

[@MegaElite83858]

@ hey man, could you let me know when you’ve seen that video? Would love to know your thoughts on it!

[@PracticalTacticalFedeli]

What is the best performing helmet that you have tested thus far?

[@BuffRANGE]

They all perform about the same. they'll take 9mm all day, but anything more gets dicey. That US ARMOR FORGE keeps dropping all sorts of data that their helmets take 44mag with like no BFD, so maybe we try to get one of those.

[@PracticalTacticalFedeli]

@ I love to get an OPScore RF1 funded so you could test that as well!! Thanks for the hard-work man-if you had to choose a budget option between the GEN 3HHV or the PDG what would you choose..

[@MAFOLEO1]

Hey Buffman, I have a small request. I was wondering if you had any SS197 5.7x28 left over, pluck the blue tips off and fire them through gel to see if that show any improvement to their damage.

[@BuffRANGE]

I'll have to think about it. It seems counter intuitive to it's design.

[@giuliobaldinger8313]

Could you test an ECH helmet?

[@BuffRANGE]

Like this? www.ebay.com/itm/276676288814?_skw=Ech+Helmet&itmmeta=01JBESAK2YJD26EPKGV850W96K&hash=item406b31212e:g:kfYAAOSwV-9nBXZN&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKl8balyUkEiI3AyWClqOgHaJQMsedeWG275Kf%2B31MZAMK055jscS8osWCAwolvjYKXcaY5grcV6gu4B6vlWrqsZvpNmzTE8ApjoVzSu7YuPS67ggxacYDaSA3XjmbzrQhgiDnMsxRUFlFLBfhKOmRGgS%2FiOqyTnEQl%2BnPUZ7%2BBabulLflaTUyFxg7wW0YGwz1mMXWYIiUw%2FEVkiRxbR1eI8xEIykt8b3jedBH2G7ENKqbi%2FXH6twldIQjQJR5jnDdAFWrdbUzHOcvlLfsHzCGRs%7Ctkp%3ABFBMyrGq2dtk

[@Pack11355]

one of the most expensive helmet liners

[@sectorseven07]

What kind of deal did you have to strike with Nick to put Bob on your screen permanently like that?

[@BuffRANGE]

@@sectorseven07 he sent the helmet and up armor :)

[@Xellos14]

I get steel is very heavy, but I figure hardened steel helmets would be the way to go with how small and cut-away helmets are getting anyway. Just UHMWPE liner for some deformation tolerance and a hardened steel shell on top if it's just going to be pistol rounds as a concern anyway imo Pistol rounds deflecting or breaking apart seems preferable to the deformation capture model of bullet-resistant. The skull isn't as forgiving to getting deep crush impacts the same way a torso can cushion hits

[@alphawolfgang173]

thats why i would like to see the neosteel helmet tested more.

[@ninjagold9244]

@@alphawolfgang173Adept Armor's Novasteel is cool, but the mounting system is pretty bad compared to other helmets.

[@alphawolfgang173]

@@ninjagold9244 yeah mounting is bad, but i dont want one for mounting, i have another helmet for mounted stuff, the neosteel looks good for other applications (trenches, quick neighborhood defense)

[@unbrandedindustriesincorpo1701]

Once you get beyond 3lbs expect permanent damage to your c-spine.

[@KeterMalkuth]

The issue is several fold. Firstly, even modern kevlar helmets are resulting in neck and spine issues over a long career wearing these helmets. The head just isn't meant to handle any kind of heavy load. While the helmet itself might be viable, when you start adding on night vision, earpro, eyepro, sometimes gas masks, battery packs, counter weights, flashlights. . . It just isn't viable. Secondly, materials like PE, as demonstrated by this video, respond relatively well to steel core or other harder penetrators. While not perfect, metals like steel are likely more liable to be penetrated by certain kinds of projectiles than PE. Thirdly, even if we're considering hard armor helmets, there are likely better materials out there. Ceramics, titanium, etc. I suspect comfort may also play a part. I don't know how well steel helmets respond to being worn in extreme heat or cold, but I imagine they'd be a bit worse than kevlar or PE.

[@Klownin2hard]

Will you be doing the new gen 3 hhv ate?

[@BuffRANGE]

Perhaps. Although after all the ruckus I caused with the highcom plate I don't think I'll be buying it, it would have to come straight from them.

[@Klownin2hard]

@BuffRANGE what ruckus?? You literally are saving people's lives with your honest, non-biased reviews. Please dont let anyone discourage you from doing what you are doing. I bought those plates and would've trusted my life with them if not for your video. I am very thankful for you and the work you do for us. Please dont stop.

[@BuffRANGE]

mainly just the reseller and manufacturer being upset. At this point it is what it is and I’m sure the retest will tell us if we’re on to something or if it was a result of me dropping them

[@Klownin2hard]

@BuffRANGE let's be honest, if all it takes is being dropped for those 4sas4 plates to not stop m193 then thats scary. I wouldn't trust them to make it through shipping if thats the case! If highcom doesnt like how their plates performed then maybe they should stop selling plates that havnt been up to nij spec and certified since 2008. Its borderline false advertising for them to even still be sold as nij certified anymore especially with nij 07 about to start being tested. I can only imagine how many people have bought these plates for full price over the years and have had peace of mind about them only to realize that they've essentially been sold china grade gear. Like I said, don't let anything or anyone discourage you from doing what you're doing. You're doing an amazing job and providing the information that we all NEED to see. Your tests are a way better equivalent to real life scenarios then anything that can be produced in a lab. It's their own fault, not yours. When shit like that happens and the veil is lifted, it's always going to piss someone off. But that bitter truth is what we need. You are one of the very few no BS, no shill, review guntubers we have. We need you. And last but not least, i just want to say, when was the last time ukraine didnt accept free aid in this war? Its no wonder they have an over abundance of these plates and are being sold at such a low price. Imagine how many soldiers were killed due to these low grade plates. Its honestly sad, and now highcom, chase, tactical shit, apex, and everyone else will have to reap what they've sown for not doing their own due diligence. You're amazing brotha, i look forward to many more reviews in the future. Keep on keeping on brotha! 👊💪

[@Klownin2hard]

@BuffRANGE i hope my comments find you well

[@thesavage6484]

Would you take $20 for the helmet padding? I need new padding and that would be cool if i can buy it from you!

[@BuffRANGE]

It got thrown in the trash :(

[@thesavage6484]

@@BuffRANGE damn…..

[@sionsoschwalts2762]

@@BuffRANGE No way! That mesh costs a fortune! ($200)

[@BuffRANGE]

Oh Apex’s business practices ?

[@jean-baptistecardamone7775]

Jean-Philipe is a good name 😂

[@jonnywalker4327]

I’ll buy the lattice pads if you don’t want/need them.

[@BuffRANGE]

They’re gone in le trash. I had no idea they were $200.

[@Anarcho-harambeism]

same company that put nij stickers on bumps and lied about using Chinese aramid

[@BuffRANGE]

Did they lie about using Chinese Aramid, or just obscure the fact that while they are a US company, the ATE 2 was imported shells? And I don't recall them putting NIJ CPL stickers on bump helmets? Can you link me to that?

[@Anarcho-harambeism]

@@BuffRANGE also, the guy who runs apex armor solutions might have more on this than me.

[@BuffRANGE]

@@Anarcho-harambeism Apex Armor's business practices have become questionable at best.

[@Anarcho-harambeism]

@BuffRANGE fair I suppose.

[@BuffRANGE]

@@Anarcho-harambeism claims are not unwarranted though. If they were slapping NIJ labels on that would be very dishonest.

[@nickedds2907]

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