6.5 Grendel, 123gr Sabre Blade Black Tip, by AAC

[@bigracer3867]

Love the Grendel🎉🎉

[@briankopp1369]

I get 1" to just under groups with the aac grendel and it puts hogs down quite well.

[@BuffRANGE]

Awesome!

[@Asatru793]

@@BuffRANGE- have a question for you most likely you know. I was looking at m855a1 some is Lake city and the other is winchester WMA is their any different in the two?

[@BuffRANGE]

@@Asatru793 I've noted no difference between LC and Winchester cased M855A1. Winchester currently runs Lake City, so I'm not sure how production of ammo works there, but I'm assuming there's a variance that allows them to produce it with either headstamp?

[@Asatru793]

@ - thank you

[@ghostwriter1415]

@@BuffRANGE did you ever procure some BR6? Its Russian armor thats touted to stop three hits of 12.7x107 (its a little stronger than .50BMG!) at ONLY 50 meters! I have to see it to believe it. L/R

[@heartattackspecial]

Excellent video, thanks Matt and fam. Good to see that the 12" loses marginal performance over the 18". Really appreciate you always testing the shorty barrels which others sometimes skip. Your consistent method of testing makes it easy to compare results even across videos, and the spreadsheet at the end is just the cherry on top.

[@BuffRANGE]

You bet

[@ColeDedhand]

Looks like Grendel's back on the menu boys!

[@EliteAmmunition]

6.5 Grendel is my favorite deer load

[@rmichaelzachary8574]

It never went anywhere. For the AR15/AK platform the 6.5G is the cartridge which looks down on the rest.

[@Tony_Seed]

Back when I used to shoot Grendel my two accuracy centered pet loads where 130gr Barnes tsx going 2400fps and 120gr Barnes tsx going 2500 fps, absolutely no pressure, so I would definitely like to see factory 6.5 Grendel ammo not downloaded so much ! It’s capable of way better performance

[@MeanLaQueefa]

Noice, Grendel is great round. When it comes to ammo and varieties, the more the merrier.

[@sithyarael6807]

Love my 6.5 Grendel. Damn thing is more accurate than I am. 12.5" Faxon barrel with matching BCG. Nice and quiet with Trash Panda on it.

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

Grendel is the best AR round period. Been testing and using the grendel in competitions and classes for 2 decades. The creedmore is a great round but in an AR platform, it’s too damn heavy.

[@theblindsniper9130]

I am foaming at the mouth to finish my 6.5 grendel build, 24 inch barrel. Really looking forward to seeing what velocity i get from it, and very excited to see AAC making it now. This video got me hyped well.

[@robertm8401]

Impressive! I remember the days when there were articles discussing 6.5 Grendel VS 66.8 SPC as a possible candidate to replace 5.56. Shame both of them never quite made it to widespread use .

[@dbmail545]

This cartridge looks so good on paper that I have been wanting to give it try. Shame the CZ 527 in that caliber is discontinued.

[@Bojangles6]

Are they chambering it in the 600? Thats their new mini action i believe.

[@mikewashington-se6qw]

Love my 527s. Especially the Grendel! Ruger makes one check CDNN Sports

[@jcows12]

The Grendel is a great little bullet, its very light recoil works on ar15 and is effective up to medium ranges for deer and coyotes.

[@niospartan]

Aac grendel is pretty damn accurate out of my psa 20", on top of being pretty affordable at $14-$15 a box and good brass to reload.

[@Bran_Nuthin]

If I ever get around to building a ar to use as a deer rifle this might be the caliber I go with.

[@ImOldGregg]

I’ve been using it for deer for years not. Really a “just right” caliber

[@ds6872]

6.5 grendel and 350 legend are the two best AR hunting cartridges, IMO

[@ThumperH60]

Grendel is a great deer round! Use the Hornady SST 123 grain

[@frankbrowning328]

Another fantastic video. Tons of great info here. Good points on comparing gel results natural vs clear and more shots = a better idea of actual performance in the field. My only minor criticism is the music which is what I believe may be playing in the last operating eastern bloc discos

[@BuffRANGE]

I try to find something middle of the road to play over slow mo that doesn't make people angry :)

[@frankbrowning328]

@@BuffRANGE I get it. Just joking with you.

[@BuffRANGE]

@@frankbrowning328 No worries at all. I used to have some music my brother made and that was "too hard core" for some, and some then criticized said composer, and so now I just pick YT free music

[@hansbradleyii5398]

I got a bear creek arsenal side charger from midwayusa for $169, it shoots sub 1” groups from all my hand loads one of the best deals on a complete upper I’ve got. I thought it was going to shoot like junk for the price but one of the more accurate ar’s I have

[@BuffRANGE]

That's awesome. Did you check the gas block on it to make sure it was tight?

[@GB-zi6qr]

Great video!!! I get 2470 avg from Hornady Black, 123gn in my 20" Grendel. When I'm on it's a tack driver. It's great to see someone else making Grendel ammo. Thanks for the info!!!

[@DantheGunMan1026]

I don't understand all the beef people have with Clear Ballistics gel blocks. I tested a 225gr ELD-M in 300WM for someone before they went on a Mule Deer hunt recently, and the bullet literally performed identically in both the gel and the animal.

[@donwyoming1936]

While many insist the two gels perform exactly the same, it appears bullets expand more in the natural FBI gel than in the synthetic clear gel. In many tests where bullets don't expand in the clear gel, they do expand in the natural gel. Ammo manufacturers will tend to use the FBI natural gel when designing & testing bullets.

[@DantheGunMan1026]

@donwyoming1936 Do you have any direct examples of what you're describing? I keep hearing this information, and all of articles I can find on the subject say the same thing, but nobody has any actual data. It seems to all be the same regurgitation of hearsay.

[@jcows12]

I use the hornady 123 sst and get extremely tight groups. I like the 6.5 Grendel, it's a solid option for hunting and very light recoil.

[@lugnut93]

Thanks for the review. It’s nice to see the true velocities. Makes me want a 24” barrel to get better range.

[@BenBelkin]

At 75 cents a round, I have been contemplating building an upper just for these cartridges to hit the steel harder than 556 from 300-600 yards. Great timing on this vid!

[@jeffhuntley2921]

Thanks Deacon! And family:)

[@SuspiciousGanymede]

I just finished my first deer season with a 6.5 Grendel Rexus AR. It filled all my tags with Hornady 123gr ELD-M but man is that stuff pricey. I wasn't impressed with the AAC Sabre 75gr black tip 556, accuracy was very random in my 20" FNA4. 1-2" groups depending but sometimes it would be 3"+. Your results on paper are consistent with what i was getting but i was shooting from a bench no solid rest. I may try a box and see if it gives me better accuracy than what I've tried.

[@mace_felloutthe_windu]

Good deal. Thank you for this review!

[@pablopenasco4254]

Love me some Grendel!

[@joesashiify]

Grendel shines in long bois though.

[@jeffhuntley2921]

4:14 JK rifle kit? How you cut it? Care to share any tips or tricks? I always heard to leave a little extra space so it doesn’t affect POI as much? 30 cal hole with .262 pro would be more than ample extra room but probably less sound dampening? Are there videos on the subject?

[@BuffRANGE]

I drilled to 23/64 or 3/8, I can't recall. I did a version of a clip I saw online where I went in .154" and I believe .154" down with a standard end mill. If you want I can email you a couple of pics. there's not a lot of data for form 1 video because YT hates that stuff.

[@DinoNucci]

Mr Buff, you have any opinions on safes?

[@BuffRANGE]

At a high level unless you spend a LOT of money most of what I can afford are "Residential Security Containers". Typically if a skilled thief wanted into one, they're going to get in. I've handled and used Liberty, Winchester, Cannon, Browning, and they all seem to be functionally identical in terms of storing guns. The number they say they will hold is a lie, especially when adding optics to guns. Liberty, I think, at times lags behind internal space efficiency and design, but nothing some carpentry work can't fix. Like everything they've gone up in cost, and I would advocate if you're looking at one, save up a little more and if you can fit it, buy the next size bigger. And of course bolt it down to the floor if possible, as that helps increase it's resistance from prying attacks.

[@DinoNucci]

@BuffRANGE 🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕

[@percisionshot4331]

Gonna have to get some of this for my 16” barrel

[@bigtrev761]

🇦🇺😎👍It’s very green for winter

[@21AttackMac]

I know you identified the first magazine you were using as a Duramag. Do you have more recommendations for reliable 6.5 Grendel mags?

[@plutonium5156]

I prefer c-products duramag. E-lander is ok but harder to load

[@caddydaddy53ify]

ACS is the best I've found i seem to have problems with duramag

[@Bojangles6]

Ive used acs, duramag and elander in my 6arc, and duramag is by far the best. You actualy lose .010/.020" coal with the elander because they use a heavier gauge steel. Doesnt matter alot for factory ammo but it can if youre handloading for max accuracy and velocity.

[@yoelmejias495]

my bear creek arsenal stainless steel 20" barrel make 1/2" @ 100 yard with that ammo .

[@DDDontCare]

I believe it! I have a couple stainless BCA uppers. 18 and 20 inch both in 223 wylde. Those things consistently print less than 1.5 inch groups @ 200 yds with 75gr AAC otm, especially that 20 inch. And I wouldn't call that AAC ammo match. I admit their QC may be lacking at times but they really make some great barrels

[@yoelmejias495]

@DDDontCare Yes my is 20" 6.5 grendel stainless steel and for Hunting 1/2 or 1" group @ 100 yards is good for me.

[@fomerbu]

Got a 120-110lb doe @ 75 yards. One shot through top of the lungs. No bullet recovered

[@hopewilliams6705]

These days with the new cartridges would you go 6.5 Grendal or 6mm ARC?

[@williambehrend5452]

Love my howa mini in 6.5 grendel

[@morganbailey5491]

That primer is seated deep!

[@ImOldGregg]

Looks more like the black eld bullet than the sst

[@bigtrev761]

🇦🇺😎👍Love the semiautomatic rifles .Too bad Australia will never see them again

[@gunsandcommissions]

Here for the gunshow, baby!!

[@Bojangles6]

Im into the 6 arc pretty deep at this point, but this makes a grendel upper pretty tempting. Maybe they will start making the 6 and 22 now that they are set up for the x39 case. Thoughts on the .338arc?

[@BuffRANGE]

the 338 ARC has a much slower twist rate over the 8.6 BLK allowing it to run typical construction bullets without spinning the jackets apart if you go supersonic. It does have OAL constraints because of fitting in AR15 mags vs AR10. I'd be curious what the heaviest copper sub it can run. If you already have 8.6 BLK probably not worth it, but if you wanted to dabble in AR15 pattern compatible cartridge probably ok

[@Bojangles6]

@BuffRANGE the 8.6 is a great performer, no doubt, but its a chonk. I dont see that it offers enough advantage in ss loads to justify having to tote an ar10. As soon as the 8.6 dropped, i had to scratch my head, considering that the .338 whisper was invented going on 40 years ago. Have a good un, keep up the good work!

[@FreeBayArea]

Grendel gang💪🏼

[@jonathanm1854]

The velocity is crazy. I get an average of 2377 with Hornady black out of my 13.9”

[@gunsandcommissions]

I don't see a code for a lot of the links on the campsite. In particular, AAC or PSA.

[@BuffRANGE]

PSA/AAC unfortunately doesn’t generate any discount code only a standard tracking link :(

[@madczechoutdoors1088]

I have the 5.56 and 7.62x39 loads. Now I’ll get some Grendel. I heard they were going to do 6.8 SPC. I hope this is true. Have you heard anything about it?

[@chumbucket5198]

Same, tried many grains of aac just to sample, all excellent. I have 6.5 grendel and have used their pistol in 45acp and 10mm to add to an overall appreciation. Great price, great ammo, no need for olympic perfection, simple as

[@Jeff-sk9yz]

I bought a ton of these and the black tips break off when loading. Causes bad groups at best and horrible jams at worst. Palmetto asked me to return my order for a refund.

[@BuffRANGE]

What gun and mags was this happening in ?

[@Jeff-sk9yz]

@BuffRANGE radical firearms 24" match upper, PSA lower, and Alexander arms mags

[@BuffRANGE]

@ interesting. These are Hornady bullets so it surprises me that it’s doing that.

[@Jeff-sk9yz]

@BuffRANGE one comment on here said it's hornady bullets with different polymer tips which aren't as robust as hornadys. When I called PSA they said I wasn't the first to have this issue. It sucks because I loved the price

[@mr220v]

Looks like it's around 100fps slower than the Hornady sst.

[@justa3v619]

Can’t beat it for $15 a box. It shoots about 1.5” groups from my 16” ballistic advantage right around 2400fps. Shoots closer to 1” and 2525fps from my 16” tiger American ranch. And about 1.5” from my 13.9” sons of liberty barrel getting 2360fps from it

[@justa3v619]

I’ve got a 12” faxon barrel on the way. I’ll post the results from that soon

[@BuffRANGE]

@@justa3v619 Awesome thanks for the data!

[@justa3v619]

@ and for what’s its worth I’m roughly a sea level around 70 degrees the day I shot. Using an old Caldwell chronograph. Definitely not the high speed garmin or lab radar but seems to get the job done 🤣. The velocities were 5rd averages though not 10rd. Forgot to mention standard deviations earlier but the 13.9” solgw sd was 14, 16” ballistic advantage sd 17 and the 16” ruger American sd of 9. Pretty impressive sd’s for the $

[@jak4032]

They may be Hornady but the polymer tip is fragile IMO...I have had them shed feeding...too soft unlike the ELD or SST.

[@CantonSecurity]

Can a you please do a video on the One Shot Systems Dynamic Pistol Rest? There is a massive craze over the Flux 365 Raider for good reason but I believe that this Rest can give the average shooter PDW capability with the gun they already own. This company has been around for 10 years and there isn’t a single well-known “Guntuber” video of it yet. I feel a real world test of it in action is sorely needed and would be really well received. Thank you for everything that you do for the firearms community. God Bless You.

[@SGCXD]

That short barrel is no slouch

[@keithbardes5321]

It's crazy that PSA/AAC can come out with all these different calibers but they still do not have a 5.45x39 option.....

[@ExtremeUnction1988]

Fingers still crossed 🤞

[@DinoNucci]

😮🍕😮

[@BuffRANGE]

I could go for a Supreme thin crust right now...

[@readyalready4697]

Nothing comes back. More money to be made with something new. Those are some low velocities. Happy barrel life tho.

[@flynnryder7798]

Super slow.

[@BuffRANGE]

@@flynnryder7798 they indeed are under the curve. Hopefully they all get out of this powder shortage

[@davidwarren3433]

Never interested in 6.5 grendal as there are too many other cartridges out there that are much better.