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[@SundaySounds]

There are some great deals going on for 9th gen iPads on sites like Amazon, Best Buy, and Target around $250 new!

[@horassitumorang9093]

Thankyou, this answer all my question about budget rig. God bless you

[@owleeva]

You are amazing! 😍 I've started building my rig already and this video saves me a ton of $$$. THANK YOU SOOO MUCH.

[@davidhaolai]

im definitely interested....

[@emilejones9658]

I used the Korg Plug key Mobile midi/Audio

[@joeangular]

hello guys, great app. I have bough it. I have a question though, how can I recieve tempo (tempo synch) and also is it possible to send midi out? I would like to use it with hardware synth. Thank you.

[@dougkruzan1120]

Thanks for the video! Could you give some ideas on budget friendly keyboards?

[@SundaySounds]

We like the SL88 Studio and Hammer 88, both are weighted, 88 Key Midi Meyboards around $500. We have reviews for each model on our channel as well.

[@josueandrade4337]

I have the ipad pro 9.7 inch with 128 GB sunday keys would work fine with that model

[@dpoultski2499]

If you don't get the newest iPad, you will need a USB-C female to USB A Male cable to connect the Hub to the iPad Camera adapter. Can you recommend one that is known to work? I think this is why my system isn't working. That or my hub is bad from Amazon.

[@debalenalang09]

Does the stand alone sunday keys for ipad have same number of sounds as the mainstage format? I have both ipad and mac and figuring out if i should get the ap or software?

[@gauravarorapianist]

Could you please suggest a weighted keys 73/76 keyboard which has usb midi and audio so that I can use the keyboard as a midi controller for the plugins in my macbook, send plugin audio from Macbook from the same usb cable to the keyboard and to the line outputs on the keyboard?

[@MrJoezerbermudez]

Hey! Where can I find that stand to hold the iPad ?

[@therayn0]

Is there a recognizable latency for the player with the lower generations?

[@anfesanz]

Thank you for sharing this. Despite the good deals there are some disadvantages to have an iPad based keyboard. For example the iPads become useless after few years and at some time the updates and the new updates become unavailable. The other important thing is the audio interface that needs to be decent (with similar costs to the app license). Maybe are you considering in a model of month by month subscription?

[@elredzona9261]

Can I use a Windows tablet or laptop? Almost every video always show Apple, nothing on Windows.

[@greeniflame]

@@elredzona9261 you’d have to buy ableton to use it on windows. Ableton live intro, which is the base model with very limited sounds and interface, costs $99, and the suite edition, which contains everything you’d need, would be $749. Sunday sounds let’s you use both intro and suite, but again, intro is very limited, but it’s cost isn’t as bad. Ableton is a very power hungry platform, so you’d need a good laptop to run with, and you’d have to pay for ableton live + Sunday sounds subscription. I use both ableton for my windows and MainStage for my max and the sunday keys app for my iPad, and I prefer to use it on my apple devices honestly, even though I love windows way more.

[@elredzona9261]

I really don't know. I'm new to this. I'm trying to get something portable and easy to use. At no really high cost. I do not know if is easier laptop or tablet? Which one to use and how long will last?

[@juliegreen6320]

with the ipad option do i still need mainstage of Abelton please your videos are really helpful thankyou

[@SundaySounds]

Hi Julie, the iPad App is 100% standalone :)

[@mrvanhoyte]

Do you guys plan to have the Sunday Keys App as a stand-alone app going at a lower cost?

[@marlukemolina8456]

Is there any brass patch?

[@saiah7901]

can it run in ipad air 2?

[@samuelg9724]

If we bought cables for our MainStage rig with the MacBook, could we reuse any of of those or buy any adapters instead of buying new ones?

[@SundaySounds]

Possibly, if you use a USB Type C Hub with Power Delivery, and plan to use an iPad with a USB Type C port, you probably have everything you need! We have a video that covers all the gear options in depth here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5m7XnmIlN9pjK8

[@johnbarron6392]

Would it be fair to say that you're moving away from using Mainstage (or Ableton Live) and more towards your own iPad (and coming soon Mac) app?

[@SundaySounds]

For our own live performance use-cases, and in terms of what we'd recommend for the vast majority of worship teams, we do think the App is the most compelling option out there, including when compared against Sunday Keys in MainStage and Live formats. The App does things that simply aren't possible in any other software and we think the fact that it's designed just for worship music gives it an incredible edge. That's why we're devoting much of our video efforts to helping teach people what it can do for their worship teams while still also providing lots of teaching content that isn't specific to any one platform. However, there may still be compelling reasons for some users to prefer one of Sunday Keys' other formats, especially for users who want more advanced or specific functionality, like time-code or Link automation in Ableton Live, or getting really into different bussing and the like in MainStage. We plan to continue to add more advanced functionality to the standalone App over time so even those who want more advanced features are able to choose the App if they would like to do so. For now we plan to continue to offer Sunday Keys in formats where users find them helpful for as long as there's a broad enough user-base to continue doing so. We are keeping tabs on which formats our users are adopting the most to help inform those choices down the line.

[@msjaebea]

@@SundaySounds Thank you for that response. I have been trying to decide which way to go while waiting for my ipad to be delivered. From what you are saying, just using the app alone rather than as a plugin for MainStage is the better option. It is certainly the easiest option by far. I have a midi keyboard to plug it into but hoping I will be able to use it through my yamaha SX900. Then I don't have to have two keyboard on the platform!

[@Revdrum]

I think best buy has the 2021 iPad for $250 right now. Not sure if it’s nationwide

[@SundaySounds]

Best deal we have seen for new 9th Gen iPads so far!

[@howardbosmanjr]

Are you planing Sunday guitar for iPad?

[@carloseduardorangel5304]

Hello, does this program run on all generations of ipad?

[@therayn0]

On the website it says from 6th generation up

[@DeanMoriartyMusic]

Apps ???

[@andrewhollick6387]

Followed your instructions exactly. Focusrite interface lights flashes then goes off. No audio through Amp. Only way to get it to work was to use headphone jack directly to amp but hardly any volume. Went from iPad headphone Jack to headphone amp, then out to amplifier. Why won’t the Focusrite work?

[@SquadwiOnYt]

If you have an iPhone with an audio jack age is probably the problem. My Scarlett and audient is pretty much plug and play.

[@elredzona9261]

Can you use it on windows or different tablet or computer?

[@SundaySounds]

Hi, the Sunday Keys App is only for iPad, with the Mac version to be released soon.

[@Flavio_Lima_]

if my keyboard has its own power supply and internal audio interface, is it possible to connect an ipad with direct usb c output with a type c printer cable, without using hubs?

[@SundaySounds]

You will most likely still need to use a hub with Power Delivery so that your iPad has a way to stay charged.

[@emilychamberlain3686]

I tried the printer cable to female/female usb and my iPhone usb to lightening and nothing from my keyboard was registered on my iPad Sunday Keys App. A little disheartening, I thought it would be more plug and play. My keyboard normally runs with a guitar lead to a DI and through Dante to our Yamaha sound desk. So now I’m looking for solutions. Is a midi controller a must have or can I get away without it if I go for the apple adaptor and powered usb hub?

[@Harmony_Worship]

Wondering if MS and Omni is possible with this iPad setup.

[@SundaySounds]

Currently both MainStage and Omnisphere will only run on a Mac (Omni will run on PC as well).

[@Harmony_Worship]

@@SundaySounds thanks, Does Sunday Sounds have proper integrated system for Omni?

[@jccolon-mendez661]

Can I open this app with Word document? To play the music and have the app open and playing the music ay the same time.

[@SundaySounds]

While it may be possible to operate the Sunday Keys App at the same time as other popular charts/tracks apps focused on live worship music, we cannot specifically confirm that multitasking will work. Your experience when multitasking is likely to be influenced by a number of factors, including the specific Apps involved, your iPad’s capabilities, and the specifics of your use case and hardware. We always recommend stress-testing any possible combination of software in a non-performance context before taking it to the stage.

[@jccolon-mendez661]

@@SundaySounds i buy the iPad to see the music in a word document, I can’t buy another iPad. Maybe to make a video with that task.

[@shanebrain773]

Do I need an audio interface? The video does not mention buying one, but it is in the diagram at 10:04 (and in the amazon list). Also what is the latency like while using the app?

[@mobley2711]

Your diagram has a device at bottom right, you never say what it is, or how it’s connected! It’s to the right of the keyboard.

[@smithophoto]

Me: Patiently waiting 10 minutes for the part of the video where you magically squeeze a midi keyboard or controller into the $400 budget... David: "The last thing to do is connect the keyboard YOU ALREADY HAVE AT YOUR CHURCH"... This is a bait and switch for new church plants or those transitioning from acoustic piano to keys. 🤣 The title of this video should be "how to upgrade your keys rig to Sunday Keys for $400". When I saw the title I thought there might be some recommendation for a dirt cheap keyboard... I was let down. haha... So minimum budget to build this rig is more like $650, because you'd be hard pressed to find a midi controller for under $250 used. You can't build a keyboard rig without a keyboard. Why not also say "use the iPad you already have " and change the budget to $200" LOL I already have an iPad... I already have an audio interface, and most of the cables and adapters necessary... the one thing I DON'T have is a compatible keyboard or midi controller. 😂🤣😂🤣