I've met Perry, I've toured their facility. My cousin built some of their early equipment. I visited a house that they provided the Sips panels for including a curved roof system. I was shown the forms they used to make those curved panels. I live in the Black hIlls of South Dakota and a friend of mine is a builder that exclusively builds with SIPS from Extreme. He blower door tests his homes and they are extremely efficient.
@dirtleg133 ай бұрын
Soory but I can't help my stupidity. Is your friend named Rocky Racoon?
@weiss27md3 ай бұрын
I like the nice simple design of the house and roof.
@AaronHope_Sow3 ай бұрын
Looking forward to learning more about this affordable housing project!
@buildshow3 ай бұрын
Coming next week a deep dive into what they are doing!
@VillelaHN3 ай бұрын
Thank you for showcasing this system. 🙏
@buildshow3 ай бұрын
My pleasure
@levilane82733 ай бұрын
Got the chance to work with Nathan a couple weeks ago. Super great guy, absolute whiz when teaching these sip builds. It was a pleasure to meet and work with him and I highly recommend Extreme Panels and Nathan to anyone interested in learning this type of building.
@salotexturas439Күн бұрын
Excellent work on the part of the extreme panel por estar pendiente ...y un gran trabajo de la contratista solid foundation...bravo
@raymondpeters91863 ай бұрын
Innovation should be seen as an opportunity not a threat There's enough need and room for everyone. Let the market decide
@hallcody33 ай бұрын
The ac unit small size because the house is so efficient was just awesome. Crazy money savings with an efficient home. I want an efficient home so bad. My last house was a 1956 red brick home, it was so leaky and hot. Not efficient at all. Hoping I get to build a nice new efficient home soon
@ARShirk3 ай бұрын
The hybrid of ducting and minis is a really good compromise for using minis in regular houses. Most HVAC guys insist on putting a head in every room. Which necessitates line sets, wiring and also condensate drains for each which can and will cause leaks and trouble down the road. The biggest concern I see is interior air filtration. Most people will agree that a mini split's filtration is poor to none. I wonder if a MERV 13 filter right after the circulation fan wouldn't be the final thing to make this a perfect and affordable house heating and cooling system. Maybe also individual outside units for each head for redundancy/maintenance down the road.
@raymondpeters91863 ай бұрын
Better faster stronger cheaper Pumicecrete is by far the best building material on the planet My goal is to build a pumicecrete home for Community First in Austin Texas Take care Ray
@buildshow3 ай бұрын
That would be awesome Ray! I’m a big fan of Community First. My company has built 4 there
@weiss27md3 ай бұрын
Sounds like a house I would want too.
@Crusader18153 ай бұрын
Sounds similar to Roman concrete. They used volcanic ash in the mixture, and a lot of those structures still exist today.
@raymondpeters91863 ай бұрын
Hey Matt who do I talk to to make this happen any help would be greatly appreciated Take care Ray
@raymondpeters91863 ай бұрын
@@Crusader1815pumicecrete is a mixture of pumice cement and water mixed and poured into a set of reusable forms walls are poured from 12"to 24"" thick
@BWIL25153 ай бұрын
I've been building for fifty years and I've always thought about this type of building especially with insulation. When I started in the seventies it's always plywood and twenty pound felt on the exterior. We've come along way since then
@dustin8022 ай бұрын
We are prepping to build our own home 2000 sq ft pier and beam. rough estimate what would you think material cost will be for framing and enclosing everything with roof?
@dfurball3 ай бұрын
It's literally him just interviewing salesmen at this point.
@Micahj154053 ай бұрын
True, but it is meant to be that from what I can tell. No one makes any process or product without selling it.
@sliderfc3s3 ай бұрын
I like learning about new products
@Micahj154053 ай бұрын
@@sliderfc3s thats cool man
@colinstu3 ай бұрын
is that wtf is going on? These are a struggle to get thru now. And wow so much talking on top of each other... these vids seem so thrown together now / not much of an outline.
@barkleymencer24343 ай бұрын
Thank you for this information!!! So encouraging
@ZacharyKurtz3 ай бұрын
This seems like an awesome way to get more affordable, high efficiency homes built. It would be great to see the national builders switch’s to sips panels.
@Luckytron3 ай бұрын
I’m switching to it.
@paulrey273 ай бұрын
You should check out how foam burns and the negatives of using foam...
@wrefk3 ай бұрын
@@paulrey27you should check out how wood burns, and the negatives of using wood
@paulrey273 ай бұрын
@@wrefk it can be rated. Foam cannot. 😆🤡
@LargerThanCats3 ай бұрын
@@paulrey27 I mean drywall and treated OSB should provide enough of a fire barrier to allow people to get onsite and put out the fire. It's a 1400 square foot home so is the concern that someone is going to sit in a burning house breathing fumes from foam?
@beachboardfan95443 ай бұрын
Lets see how well those corners are sealed after 20 years...
@ellsobrien3 ай бұрын
Good/Fast/Cheap in full effect
@ToddBizCoach3 ай бұрын
It’s not the number of days that matters. It’s the number of man hours.
@LargerThanCats3 ай бұрын
I mean less days on site basically equates to less man hours.
@tommycollier91723 ай бұрын
I would love to see the electrical install, please
@raymondpeters91863 ай бұрын
Attaching drywall directly to the OSB is mold waiting to happen If water gets in-between the OSB and the drywall that would bad There's a guy on KZbin has a quote ( if it can't dry it will die) Mold is bad
@obalalama3 ай бұрын
Always enjoy your videos! Thank u (from a random non builder who’s never touched a tool). Dreams
@swatisquantum3 ай бұрын
Love it. Prefab is used in everything so why not houses. It just makes sense. the future.
@dennisoestermann18803 ай бұрын
I like the design for ex a barn/garage/workshop usage, but i would rather have a concrete/brick built home. But great that it can be built that fast, especially in areas where a tornado has been by.
@DRJoe1003 ай бұрын
There’s some concrete dome builds that are the best for hurricanes (even on concrete stilts if it’s a flood zone) and tornadoes. Brick only is usually horrible in earthquakes. Concrete gets brittle after a big fire and is no longer habitable/structurally sound if there’s building code compliance in the area. I’ve seen videos where they did aircrete hollow walls later filled with foam to create a similar effect to sips, but aircrete has its own issues. Not sure if I’ve seen them do regular concrete walls then make a foam form that they could then add drywall. Concrete is extremely expensive and other potential issues. Now that they’ve finally figured out the formula to Roman concrete it would be interesting to see various styles of buildings done and stress tested for all types of natural disasters.
@dennisoestermann18803 ай бұрын
@@DRJoe100 Well wood gets extremely "brittle" after a big fire :P At least concrete and bricks dont burn as fast as stick buildt and gives the residents a bigger chance of surviving a fire :P And depending on how you build with concrete, you can have a structure that will outlast a stick build. You will also have to consider termites and carpenterants, that weakens the wood, but not concrete and brick. And depending on where you build, concrete can be a cheaper build than stick. If yo do concrete on the inner wall, then rockwool and brick on the outside, you will have a very good insulated wall, both for hot and cold climates. And it will not catch on fire nearly as fast as a stick build. Even with treated wood.
@codacoda5653 ай бұрын
The sips are great. The problem is. Everyone on the job site needs to know exactly what they're doing. One air leak in a gap means Wood will start rotting. You won't know it Til it's too late. All you have to do is research sips failures.
@nik50833 ай бұрын
How much were these affordable homes being sold for?
@cybernoid0013 ай бұрын
thats what I want to know. I don't care for cookie-cutter houses, but I am more lenient if they are actually affordable houses, but if they still are prices out for people for a starter home, then I get upset.
@TheMotorGuyDirect3 ай бұрын
@@cybernoid001was your first car a new car? Basically any normal person cannot expect to buy a new home for their starter home.
@JCarrollTV3 ай бұрын
Pricing has almost nothing to do with the size and type of home and everything to do with the neighborhood.
@stingraysvt3 ай бұрын
404 Goldwire Cir SW Birmingham, AL Approximately… Keep your eyes peeled for the listing price
@nyalsewell2 ай бұрын
Saw another video w these guys and they said $210-215k I believe.
@JimDeVerna-yf2zy3 ай бұрын
Matt … What are the failure modes of SIP systems? Ask your friend Joe Lstiburek to assist. Might be low cost to build but very expensive to repair.
@MR.chato.103 ай бұрын
I what to build a house like a walk-in fridge
@johnspence24663 ай бұрын
If it were pre-wired for that cost might make it worth it
@pc30773 ай бұрын
What is the wind rating on this type of building? Alabama gets over 600 storm and tornado warnings a year.
@Vipe6943 ай бұрын
Typical design criteria for wind is 115mph. They can be engineered for higher wind loads if needed.
@jeremiahemswiler3 ай бұрын
Matt’s treating the sales rep like a hot chick and didn’t ask him any questions and agreed with everything. How about a blower door test?
@jt57473 ай бұрын
Maybe he identifies as a hot chicken. Anything is possible these days.
@redneek243 ай бұрын
First seen this on This Old House in the 1980s but it never took off. Why?
@bobbygetsbanned60493 ай бұрын
Because it has it's own problems. Just imagine if you want to fix something or renovate in the future, most contractors are going to have no idea how to work with this type of construction. And if you get a leak, your structural OSB is going to get destroyed quickly... It's not that great of a solution. Prefab stick framed homes are available already.
@dbdouglas3 ай бұрын
Is the OSB guaranteed to not "de-laminate" from the foam center?
@theglassishalf3 ай бұрын
EPS is basically Styrofoam. It has well known properties and incredibly low shrinkage. If that problem somehow developed, it wouldn't be hard to engineer clamps to recompress the osb and eps.
@EnHacore13 ай бұрын
Very impressive, getting all the benefits of a zero home for a big saving in price. This is how 80% of the homes should be built. The $600k-$800k prices in Texas are crazy. Can something like this be done but with metal structure instead of wood?
@mackman770953 ай бұрын
How would the electrical work in there? Is it in the exterior walls already?
@calebkz3 ай бұрын
What’s the on-site manhours for the 3 day build? Vs manhours for a conventional stick frame and insulation on the same floor plan?
@buildshow3 ай бұрын
Gotta be 1/4 of the man hours. These were so fast
@Eric-xp1kl3 ай бұрын
@@buildshow I looked into Timber Frame with sip panels and just sip in the Mountains in NC...every builder I spoke with thought I was crazy and wouldn't touch the job, or said, I think we could do it, which gave me zero confidence.
@greezy9373 ай бұрын
So how do you hang sheetrock with no studs?
@Ninjump3 ай бұрын
Lol everywhere is a stud, stud
@benbohannon3 ай бұрын
Elmers glue?
@UhOhUmm3 ай бұрын
You have continuous blocking everywhere.
@Robert-cd5zr3 ай бұрын
Would such a thing benefit from tumescent fire resistant coating on the paneling and framing prior to drywall? How's the flammability regarding the insulating foam? Will fire inside the wall spread more easily with no studs?
@thomaswarner30603 ай бұрын
SIPS have been around for 4 Decades now. Nothing new here. This is like flashback to the '90's for me...
@LargerThanCats3 ай бұрын
Electrical cars have been around for 100 years, what's your point? Improving on past designs is the entire premise for human innovation.
@davidparker21733 ай бұрын
I wonder if this style of building has a name yet, or if they are building like this here in Spokane WA? Double sheathed wall is very stiff.
@Foche_T._Schitt3 ай бұрын
SIPs
@davidparker21733 ай бұрын
@@Foche_T._Schitt Fight, fight, fight! Let's push Him and our Whole Team over the goal line, and let's get everyone on our side. Let's win em over.
@DRJoe1003 ай бұрын
It’s call SIPS and has been around for decades. There’s even different types/styles and pros/cons of each. Early foams used had issues with toxic off gassing, newer closed cell foam is supposedly safe and less toxic. Granted you could still recreate it with some rockwool just might need to be thicker.
@davidparker21733 ай бұрын
@@DRJoe100 They do look like tinder boxes, and building fireproofed structures would be a tremendous upgrade. Eventually it can be done cheaply enough with improved technologies.
@ChrisShannon-v7g2 ай бұрын
Do we know what size dehumidifier was used
@stormbowler418727 күн бұрын
Who is the company that made the framing for the inside?
@Techno4more12 күн бұрын
Idk if it's a good idea to use OSB as the main structural integrity of the building
@wrefk3 ай бұрын
Did he say 29,000/year for insurance???? Wow
@dreadpiratewestley85993 ай бұрын
This is interesting but no one ever talks about longevity and maintenance of this type of home. I’ve replaced large swaths of OSB because of a small leak that went undetected. What happpens 30 years from now if a whole panel or multiple panels are structurally compromised because of lack of maintenance? Can it be repaired, or replaced, or will the home have to be condemned? I’m just curious how something like that can be repaired.
@DomFix3 ай бұрын
What about moisture/vapour diffusion? Or it's not a house but mushrooms growing sheed 🤭
@tedpereboom69833 ай бұрын
I was wondering that too. When they show the ridge header it has some fabric over it 12:22, which must be their vapor diffusion port. But I would hate to see it sealed with sheetrock.
@DomFix3 ай бұрын
@@tedpereboom6983that's a wind barrier to me to cover roof
@DRJoe1003 ай бұрын
@@tedpereboom6983I thought he said it was fully insulated/inclosed and that the dehumidifier was how fresh air could come in (I assume they’d also need a controlled exhaust or it would defeat the whole purpose of keeping out humidity etc no??)
@bennylouie16643 ай бұрын
So how are outlets on the panel walls run?
@buildshow3 ай бұрын
Chases in the panel to run wires.
@jeffshof51083 ай бұрын
Those look like big sheds
@jatrubka13 ай бұрын
There is an idea to build houses like a giant refrigerator. Just take this concept as a basis. Prepare the tin casing at the factory, and the inner jacket from formed plastic. Assemble all this on clips on site like formwork and blow foam inside. Just like a refrigerator. Then you don't have to waste time on external and internal finishing.
@argylemanni2803 ай бұрын
0:14 True efficiency. Why use locals?
@TheBrokerLife3 ай бұрын
How can we get in contact with that owner because a $20k savings with insurance is absolutely astounding.
@buildshow3 ай бұрын
Call Perry at Extreme Panel!
@Foche_T._Schitt3 ай бұрын
29k a year??? If the house isn't worth more than 300k dollars you're better off investing that money. In 10 years time you'll have all 300k invested plus dividends and 5% more. And you don't have to fight with the insurance company to get it.
@DRJoe1003 ай бұрын
@@Foche_T._Schitt😂 true but if they took out a loan to buy it you’re required to have insurance or a untouchable large chunk of money to access instead of insurance (forgot what it’s called but they require it in uninsurable areas if they’ll even give u a loan.. you can also have another one instead of paying car insurance).
@everythingresidential3 ай бұрын
What he’s doing is amazing, only thing I would do is more architecture on the outside and have an HOA to protects these homes because they are such gems.
@DRJoe1003 ай бұрын
HOA’s are horrible scams, the same if not worse than the gov.. Most cities have basic laws of : -don’t park on the lawn -grass can’t be higher than 2ft (varies ) -trash can’t be visible from the road aka keep ur junk in the backyard Outside of cities people want freedom thus less rules unless u live in fire zone.. then county will still get after you on grass etc
Matt. You need to go check out construction in China.
@buildshow3 ай бұрын
That would be interesting! Know anyone there?
@DRJoe1003 ай бұрын
😂 tofu dreg is majority of the buildings and beyond those the ones that aren’t scams have little to no quality standards on toxic building materials used even if it gets built semi decent.
@dirtleg133 ай бұрын
Get back to me in 10 years with a thorough report of everything that failed. Not judging, just skeptical.
@Foche_T._Schitt3 ай бұрын
Single family or 20 illegals.
@raymondpeters91863 ай бұрын
Would live in one. NOT!!
@Eddy_HVAC3 ай бұрын
So your telling me there only using glue to attach the walls to the bottom plate 😂😂😂😂 easy way to repo hook a crane to the ridge beam and the the whole house away and just leave the slab lol😂. Were are these builder coming from smh 🤦♂️
@JL100074063 ай бұрын
They said an engineer stamped it. I'll take an engineered design over a code design.
@Vipe6943 ай бұрын
Both skins are nailed to the base plate.
@mikecousin85233 ай бұрын
It's glued and lag screwed
@YouTube_can_ESAD3 ай бұрын
@OP, Hey Cousin Eddy, the sh*tter’s full. 😂😂😂
@JohnGutierrez-u9n3 ай бұрын
Or U can use POOKIE to attach walls to bottom plate
@spadeninja93 ай бұрын
This builder is a complete disaster. It's sad
@DRJoe1003 ай бұрын
The guy who premade the walls or the on-site crew?? And why do you say that? My first concerns would be: -toxic off gasing even if they used closed cell foam -roof craftsmanship and how they couldn’t prebuild the roof to be touching flush in the center.. seems like a big crack like that would be super inefficient and they’ll probably just foam it before finishing but still cringe -the electrical should probably be buried in a metal conduit so the homeowner or even dry walkers Dont screw into it but at the very minimum given a perfect layout of exactly where it is so they can reference it. Not sure what they do with plumbing since they didn’t cover it. -they should pour a small angled ledge around the perimeter of the concrete foundation to help prevent termites since it’s a big issue there. Seems like something people in low income housing are less likely to afford/know/maintain since it’s already an issue with normal housing and most not knowing to not have garden beds/dirt/grass up against your foundation. -there’s no garage , which is needed in a tornado/hurricane area but everywhere unless it’s a big metro area with quality safe public transportation.. but it’s get mid-lower income area tend to use them as storage and still park outside and the house has no curb appeal and they’re just doing the bare minimum to house people cheaper vs thinking of the future, etc
@LargerThanCats3 ай бұрын
@@DRJoe100 Homeowners would have an easier time hitting electrical in a conventional stick framed house. How would a drywaller with 1/2" drywall and 1/2" OSB screw into the electrical with a 1 1/4" drywall screw? Metal conduit makes zero sense. A garage isn't necessary and only adds to the cost. Tons of homes don't have garages. Curb appeal? That's your complaint?
@7_of_93 ай бұрын
3 paper homes in 45 days and unlimited maintenance 😂😅😂
@ssl35463 ай бұрын
paper? those were OSB outside and inside, plus drywall inside. ridiculously strong.
@TheMotorGuyDirect3 ай бұрын
SIPs is often stronger than stick built.
@nills2gills8113 ай бұрын
Gottem!
@DRJoe1003 ай бұрын
SIPS are stronger than normal stick builds. The foam is probably closed cell which means it’s waterproof and termites, etc won’t eat it.. The hvac system is more thought out and better than most homes So what maintenance are you referring to that will be more than any normal house??
@thenexthobby2 ай бұрын
Nice template. Now, imagine if the zoning laws were like old zoning laws that permitted row housing so that we could stop pretending land access is infinite. 4 houses is good, 5 would be better for that lot. And are these going to retail for LESS than what neighborhood or regional comps sell for?? Affordability means more than just building lower-cost housing. It means finding a way to build the same size house for less AND sell it for less ... literally depressing a local housing market because there's no version of this where your neighbor's house cost less but yours remains magically inflated in value. And THAT is the problem with expecting home ownership to be an investment: It always requires you to profit over the next person. And we wonder why there's a housing shortage, why "affordable" houses are some mystical idea.