Build Order Innovation On Platinum Level Leaves Me Speechless! | Is It Imba Or Do I Suck

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[@Sara_Feingold]

"It's important that you do not morph them into archons, though" *shifts screen to show 2 archons morphing* XD

[@user-cm1nf6lh9w]

Do you have a time stamp?

[@geuros]

@@user-cm1nf6lh9w 12:48 onwards

[@aden5k]

XD what incredible timing, I love archons that’s why I morph them

[@jakemertens1382]

When I watched the 2 archons forming there the video stuttered and then an ad popped up. That's how much Harstem hated those archons

[@geuros]

@@jakemertens1382 I have premium so it was continuous but Harstem still had like a few milliseconds of shock and then kept his face straight and continued the lecture haha

[@sean-michaelconroy7686]

"Your wall at the natural is also a work of art, in that it serves no real purpose" - Harstem Artists around the world: :o

[@geuros]

In art of not serving any real purpose 🤔

[@TrueThanny]

Well, the real purpose of art (as in paintings) in the modern day is to divert money from stupid rich people back into the economy.

[@Radgerayden-ist]

For an artist that's a compliment

[@PGooseGaming]

Hey, that's me! For added context, this was a practice game between myself and a community member of ours. He wanted some roach hydra practice and I'm D1 so I wasn't playing my best as you can tell haha. Kenosua also happens to have won our gold and under touney a month ago. VoDs are on my channel if you care to watch. Sorry for my Evo placement Harstem ;)

[@namehere4285]

Gg

[@LuminaryPhoenix]

Tell us about your concept

[@aden5k]

Honestly this was one of my best PVZ match if you don’t believe it or not xD

[@PGooseGaming]

@@LuminaryPhoenix very goose, much purple

[@LuminaryPhoenix]

@@PGooseGaming Mind-blowing, thank you

[@DeltaAccel]

Most literate NA player

[@PGooseGaming]

He's Singaporean ^^

[@MrSkarlowy]

@@PGooseGaming most Singaporeans don't even speak/type that badly unless they are over 40 years old...

[@manthe3711]

I legit thought this was a Chinese replay at first.

[@Etropalker]

Sucking aside, seeing a protoss be so unbothered by creep is triggering. BURN IT, DAMMIT!

[@aden5k]

No I love creep can’t burn it

[@abdulmasaiev9024]

"Creep OP!" "Have you... tried destroying it at all?" "No it is OP and so I got scared"

[@ZerglingLover]

@@abdulmasaiev9024I was going to draw a connection between this and peacocks but I wasn’t smart enough to figure it out. I leave this behind in the hopes that a person greater than myself can figure it out.

[@HollowexOkay]

I love how in the imba report, it was written "breedlords", not "broodlords". I can't dude 😂

[@PrimalRockSlapper]

My brain failed when I read this title and I thought "why is innovation in platinum league"

[@TheBrutaline]

At first I thought this is from the chinese server when Harstem was reading the complaint form. Thanks for making me smile NA. Never change.

[@PGooseGaming]

He's Singaporean ^^

[@zUwUzz]

^^

[@zUwUzz]

@@PGooseGaming kenosua was blindly following a build order 🤭🤭 don't tell him i said that

[@zUwUzz]

badly ^

[@aden5k]

@@zUwUzz what you say about me

[@xitaris5981]

That guys creep spread was great, but I'm sure if Protoss EVER worked on pushing it back they would have to give up the creep or start failing on their macro cycles since they were only plat

[@PGooseGaming]

Thanks :) I was working on keeping 2 queens active if he pushed it back. Honestly he was just gold so he's progressing pretty well

[@abyrvalg_]

@@PGooseGaming dude, teach me! the whole map covered in creep at 8 minute mark is insane

[@PGooseGaming]

@@abyrvalg_ I might make a video about this tbh, lots of people have asked...

[@Figgy20000]

It honestly boggled my mind how it was possible to lose the game after his first attack. He could have won without building a single other unit or mining another mineral. But then we see 3 afk archons and 2 afk Collosus attacking a hatch. All you had to do to win was just have any micro whatsoever. A bronze AI would have won this one

[@aden5k]

Sorry man I was busy producing my warp prism and disruptor for a drop + adding more gateways at my main base. This is why I am in plat xD

[@m.helazior9932]

@@aden5k Don't use disruptor at this level, this is way too hard. Just use zealot immortal archon, this is fine and super easy to micro. Focus on always producing units and upgrades. Your goal is to win before 10 min, so you will never see any broodlord. And if you see broodlord, just attack in another spot, for example you attack in the bottom, go to the top, and he can't follow you, he is too slow.

[@kennethferland5579]

@@aden5k You needed to do a simple move command to consolidate your army together at 17:00 before taking the second engagement against hydra, you feed your army piecemeal when the whole point is to be a deathball.

[@Kartoffelpuffer12]

@OreO He used a disruptor shot at the last engage and almost killed one of his Archons with this :D

[@jeeeeeeeeeeezus]

I love how Kenosua saw this game and his reaction is "ultras&lurkers are OP".

[@TheShadow6391]

This guy is not IMBA cause zerg. He is imba cause he is a Goose. Have you seen how dangerous a goose is IRL? They are machines of death. Ofc he stomps on inferior human.

[@SchemingGoldberg]

He's not just any goose, he's a PURPLE goose, that gives him +5 damage to his peck attack.

[@aden5k]

@@SchemingGoldberg yeah man the goose was too good for me, purple goose + purple Zerg no way I am winning this. He wanted to fill the entire map with purple

[@MrSpleenface]

That was such an early GG. His position was 5x more playable than half the positions that people recover from in IODIS.

[@huylevi]

12:00 it's not a bug. It's a feature. It was intended to not be able to spread creep through the middle of those fan. I remembered i heard it from somewhere (might be Lowko) that the fans on the side of the spot somehow someway prevent creep from spawning on the path

[@lurchgurk7824]

new protoss unit: mobile fan!

[@DFGdanger]

new protoss build order: only fans

[@danielskrivan6921]

If my Mom watched Starcraft, PurpleGoose would be her favorite player.

[@PGooseGaming]

Damn straight

[@imhappyidance]

11:57 its actually intended the little robot cleans the area so well that creep cant manifest on the ground

[@frozencloudzzful]

Dude complains about a roach/hydra without mentioning the 9 broodlords....

[@LounoirRecords]

i'm pretty sure the concept of "retreating" is not in the arsenal of bronze to plat players or picking the correct fight for that matter as well

[@ArtyMcMuffin]

It's starting in plat tbh, but this guy is at the bottom of platinum, which is the level of straight average players and where we start to play Starcraft and not really odd cheese and all from gold and below.

[@aden5k]

@@ArtyMcMuffin I learnt how to retreat just now xD, I would say I am average for plat but not bottom that’s basically gold. Sorry if I don’t know how to retreat just started this game a month ago, anyway I learnt a lot from here

[@doublecrossedswine112]

If you think a species is OP and you are not playing that species, what does that say about your IQ?

[@ledrash6079]

Haha, i have thought about this a lot, but in the context of pro players whining. If your JOB is to maximize your wins, your JOB! Not your hobby or whatever, but the way you make money... WHY wouldn't you play the most imba shit you can find? Is it only Scarlett that is changing race sometimes? :)

[@aden5k]

Anyway all this was a joke expect for the lurkers part, I don’t know why you are taking this video Soo seriously xD

[@hyperonestarcraft]

Damn. My friend made it. Lol

[@PGooseGaming]

Kenosua is a beast

[@danielskrivan6921]

"We're living in the real world" as we watch a game being played in a sci-fi universe.

[@PixelPower23]

hey daniel, what did you use today?

[@claytonsmith3749]

16:00 this is some of the best quality coaching and strategic breakdown I've seen in a video. Explaining the counter-intuitive but correct decision of retreating after a major victory to re-asses their re-max composition and counter it is really fantastic content.

[@mdube391]

This was the greatest video of the series so far. Thanks for the great content and awesome laughter we all need in these stressful times

[@AntiDoctor-cx2jd]

wasn't it a thing to put like 50 hydras in overlords and go drop them in SC1? I wonder if someone can win like that in BGMWSS

[@MrHikagemono]

You were lookjng for the phrase "Solar Eclipse".

[@pietu87]

Bad fighter. Doesnt matter how well you play otherwise.

[@zor8952]

We need to get hold of the purple goose so he can send the same game to Harstem. 😂

[@PGooseGaming]

Haha I should

[@CrimsonA1]

This. When this game first came out, I hardly won any matches. Then I started watching pro plays and the most common thing I noticed was the constant scouting. I started doing the same and went up a few leagues. In war, the difference between winning and losing is having up-to-date information or a lack there-of.

[@DistrictTerra]

I have watched so many serral games and after three and a half years have finally started learning the timing of sending an overlord for a scout and keeping an eye on the opponent.

[@Blindsaplol]

Did he EVER pressed purification nova this game ? if not i wonder why he would build them anyways

[@princepsbellum3413]

Dont think so. The first two were put inside a warp prism that he moved straight into hydras and the next three were moved into brood lords. Next level meta.

[@Natsukashy]

16:58 look at the top of the screen! :P

[@princepsbellum3413]

@@Natsukashy There you go, zerg IS imba :-)

[@daddydawg2388]

papa harstem

[@nickjorgenson5825]

Perfect timing on the upload for my early lunch break!

[@tilmanvogel2387]

4:33 🎵 if lings show up on your side of the map, you take them out with your adept. 🎵

[@haste953]

That creep spread is better than Serrals for real...

[@PGooseGaming]

It's easy when you don't macro haha

[@haste953]

@@PGooseGaming Oh shit the Purple Goose in the flesh. Even so that was good creep spread

[@PGooseGaming]

@@haste953 thanks Haste!

[@hakobian2162]

I was kinda amazed at the creep spread. 12:15

[@sobranius]

Still no pics for form.

[@danielskrivan6921]

Aircraft museums would have planes with pylons on the wings.

[@timluo55]

He should not be getting high templars + disruptors, it's literally a waste of money. I dont think a single disruptor activated a single ball this entire game! + the templars stormed wayyy too late

[@geuros]

Yeah well... I got to 3k with Protoss by exclusively playing proxy void rays in PvT and PvP but macroing in PvZ. I had no real build orders, like this guy, I just knew what I hate to play against as Terran. In this sense, getting chargelots, stalkers, 8 archons, few immortals and colossi + observers and you can't literally lose on this level with A-move. This dude just actually confirmed Protoss is broken.

[@joakimandersson7769]

Imagine being protoss, having DOUBLE your zerg opponents worker count for almost ten minutes, and still losing because you absolutely detest micro XD

[@Hisu0]

Imagine being zerg, still winning despite being an absolute brainlet at strategy. Just google a few plans to switch between, pound them into your muscle memory and be quick, that's all it takes. No thinking required whatsoever.

[@CyRxJustin]

At his rank, it's really nice to see him knowing to prioritize macro over micro. What's not nice to see is him picking a micro heavy composition and then not microing. If you don't look at your army during engagements, probably not the best idea to build disruptors.

[@phaledax3661]

The Evo Chamber... the cleaning bot was probably in the way

[@Broformist]

Colossus, natural predator of hatcheries.

[@MrRenzy14]

If you publish a book with all your analogies I will buy at least 1!

[@AntiDoctor-cx2jd]

The way you actually look at the entire complaint and decipher the important points, makes me think you'd be better than 95% of doctors

[@nabusvco]

The complaint at some points felt like the NA caveman was having a stroke

[@dustincintron1682]

I need to know more about this Purple Goose, of clan Purple Goose who has a logo of a purple goose

[@PGooseGaming]

Hi.

[@dustincintron1682]

@@PGooseGaming oh shit!

[@cobble3231]

It always amuses me these people that send a complaint whilst having very clearly used Google translate and that probably can't even understand Harstem's response.

[@MadMan-7978]

I dont think he has. He talks a lot in a discord im in. Or he uses translate on every message

[@cobble3231]

@@MadMan-7978 either way he's clearly not very good at English

[@MadMan-7978]

@@cobble3231 yup

[@SaulGoodman3D2049]

This is from NA, but Harstem apparently has a decent audience in China, and people reupload his videos with translated subtitles, so it's fair to assume this is the case for other non-English speaking countries as well.

[@aden5k]

Uhh I didn’t use a translator btw, I just wrote this for fun and just write whatever pop up from my brain. Wonder my essay got a 54% rating

[@bjovers1]

The question I have is: is terran overpowered vs terran?? 😆👌

[@uzairaqeel7132]

Didn't use the disruptors once!!

[@jacko314]

moon question: solar eclipse

[@nomerespondaselcomentario]

Eclipse is the word you are looking for

[@akva1214]

The funny thing is that eclipse is also the Dutch word for it.

[@nomerespondaselcomentario]

@@akva1214 lol, harstem is afraid of cognates

[@cocoaadept]

purple goose def likes lean

[@PGooseGaming]

Sizzurp

[@chamber20projects]

One of my favorite SCII vids I've watched in a min. As a toss main it's informative but also entertaining to see the game broken down this way. Thanks!

[@ChaosTyrant]

Sun behind the moon = ecplise

[@Catatonic419]

In silver Zerg is the easiest dub as Protoss.

[@Dunkster74]

2:00 An eclipse, captitano.

[@Adamin_The_III]

that's smells like such a bait

[@HumbrianSung]

The word I think you are looking for is Eclipse. I know the Afrikaans for it :- verduistering so that may be similar to the Dutch word you are thinking of.

[@Metalmade86]

To be fair. The Zerg was smurfing hard on this one. At 9 Minutes basically 70% of the map was covered in creep. At 3k MMR zerg players place 3 tumors and call it a day.

[@TacticalFlukie]

The zerg was also never above 60ish workers, and then stayed on 30 for a very long time. I wouldn't be so quick to call smurfing, but maybe that's just me.

[@BigKnecht]

Never underestimate the sheer force of plat league autism. I can attest to this

[@williambrinkmeier1772]

Thats my zerg at d1 half the games I have 3 tumors myself

[@PGooseGaming]

4100ish with zerg, I play all 3 races usually. I played zerg in WoL and played it again cause I missed spreading creep. This was supposed to be a practice game for him vs roach hydra so I ended up putting a bit of focus on other things. I don't think a 3k zerg would transition / use vipers much. Kenosua did very well this game.

[@lacrosse22ian]

eclipse , solar or lunar

[@lostnamenowwhoami]

How is this platinum??? I could never get up there and Im not this dumb, duh what's this black thing on the floor in my third? O well, leave it alone... 5 minutes later: Maphacks!! Duh, 8 broodlords, what do? No retreat, no recall, A move on hatcheries... IMBA!!

[@Kinofspawn]

If this zerg knew how to make drones he might even be a rank or two higher... It would have been very easy for him

[@ghoraxe9000]

My biggest Weakness is something I don't think I can stop doing.. and that's Watching the Fights XD.... I love watching the fights... and seeing armies clash..... I Don't like to harrass...somehow it just feels bad.... like a back stab or something.... I rarely attack mineral lines... it just feels like I'm going for a kick in the nuts... I've Always Preferred Just Building My Army Than depending on my opponents lay out ... choose a type of assault... sometimes I death ball... other times I split and try for a flank... sometimes I do triple pronged assaults... Sometimes ill Build Forward Fortification and blockade while macroing .... But I just Love the Big Fight ... and Defeating my opponent directly

[@nuric91]

I like how similar dutsch is to german. "Zonverdustering" We in german say "Düster" to something wich ist sinister... Sinister in German means Finster. Zon sounds like sun. In German we say "Sonnenfinsterniss" which would be translated to "Sun sinistering" Unfortunatly... you guys in the netherleads work way to hard.... Not my place to work.

[@observingfrank8435]

Haha 1A entertainment. I suck aswell but I don't write letters to Kevin. Maybe I should.

[@jeffreywarf]

me: also a platinum protoss and seeing all the mistakes this protoss player makes (being too shy to attack and losing the mind game to a tech switch) "haha, I do that" edit: but seriously, maybe using the stargate wouldn't have hurt since brood lords can't shoot up and everything on the ground melts hydras

[@CyRxJustin]

At least you have self-awareness! Usually these comments are filled with "I'm Platinum too, why can't I ever get guys this easy?" When in reality they ARE the guys that are this easy. Consistent scouting and/or pressure would've alerted him to the broodlord switch and allowed him to get some Stargates up. Even from the point where he GG'd he could easily get some DT / Zealot runbys going on to keep the Zerg occupied while he got up to an army that could counter this. BLords are slow.

[@Hisu0]

Harr-dee-harr, but that Kenosua guy was right about a lot of stuff. For example, when you switch from zerg to protoss, one of the first things you realize is just how blind 'toss are, and how important scouting is. As a zerg, you just spread creep, it's free, permastealthed and eternal unless destroyed. As a protoss, your only option is units - and all units, but especially protoss, are expensive AND supply heavy - or hallucinations, which time out, while zergs don't need to _maintain_ their field of view in any way.

[@jtsyo8364]

Feel better Harstem.

[@DvSDiabloHR]

I'm pretty sure someone throwing dogturds at a mouse and keyboard could have better unit control than this dude. Wtf was this game...

[@kennethferland5579]

Unsuprizingly the harder the Imba whining the harder they fail at basics.

[@giggusmaximus2167]

"Roach/hydra/viper not good at all but somehow won???" Loses to 5+ broodlords with colossus immortal disruptor army lmao

[@hansdampf640]

Zonenverdüsterung? :D dutch is the funniest branch of german language,i swear ^^

[@DistrictTerra]

After seeing purplegoose in the latest iodis and then seeing this and his comment below it's really obvious why this game was a loss as there is a massive skillgap here regardless of playing preferred race.

[@SmolKTN]

Eclipse

[@pinkster112]

Did you see any disruptor shots the entire game, because i didn`t ? Maybe the protoss player doesn`t know the disruptor has manual fire only.

[@Makkaer1111]

As a zerg player at 3k in NA, this protoss guy doesnt really get how ez he has it

[@jeffreywarf]

in the metal leagues all you really have to do is built mutas to auto win against protoss. defending mutas takes way more effort than blind building them and flying them between mineral lines

[@aden5k]

This was my best and hardest match, for PVZ, it was not easy for me at all

[@arankoka]

build 4 archons to your army, and go basetrade amove win ?

[@vinniechan]

"3 50 year old showing up the museum with a discount card" - from across the channel you know how European that sounds

[@cursedhawkins1305]

So I suspect that the reason why the Protoss got so aggressive is because they killed quite a few Overlords and that obviously would supply block the Zerg for some time before they could hatch new Overlords to replace the ones lost so you can make the argument that because they killed these Overlords even with the Vipers themselves still being alive thus still a threat to the Protoss army itself, because the Zerg were supply blocked even if they wanted to replace the loses within that army or even reinforce it with more units they wouldn't be able too so the Protoss player decided that it might have been a good time to try and go for the knockout punch.

[@spaceorbison]

guy is way too timid... he could have steamrolled at any point mid game

[@AntiDoctor-cx2jd]

It's because zerg get cheesed by people who suck but end up with wins. It's all fair, but it results in zerg being held back, and when they can finally beat the cheeses they are better than most of the other players who got farther than they should because they mastered one low-skill cheese like cannon or bunker rush.

[@Sidecutt3]

It's like the protoss player doesn't control their units at all during the big fights, literally 1 a move somewhere and then it's a movie

[@jaggedscar]

An eclipse

[@mistaskate8715]

My god. When i was playing i was eu silver or gold tier. How painfully bad was i 😩

[@Sidecutt3]

I think the protoss player never fired a single distruptor shot, just a-moved them into the zerg army

[@noneayourbusiness5149]

How did this guy get to Platinum? He's worse than me, and I'm high silver with Protoss.

[@UponGiantsShoulders]

Eclipse.

[@Vlcounek]

Eclipse. It's called eclipse dear Harstem ;).

[@lg6707]

Good advice and perfect add timing "it's important you don't merge these into Archons though" boom advert just as i see the start of the merge

[@oldoddjobs]

why does he tolerate that disgusting creep? baffling

[@amhm8664]

eclipse

[@jimmyboe889]

Comment ils font pour envoyer ce genre de game en expliquant que l'adversaire est cheaté ? Est ce qu'il regarde leurs ralentis avant de les envoyer à Harstem ? C'est grave d'être nul à ce point la, non parce qu'à ce niveau il avait déjà gagner avec sa première attaque -_-

[@sealessdolphin]

You can get 100 supply as Protoss by having 50 warp gates

[@michalvodicka5123]

Did he just made like 6 disruptors and didn't fire a single shot? :D I didn't see any

[@doubtingtom92]

@1:43 Solar Eclipse 👌🏾

[@doubtingtom92]

@2:08 Flamingo 🦩

[@Narilius]

Yep washed up Plat Terran here. Zerg A-Click = win with ling bane muta.

[@henningbreede6428]

Reminds me of the delusional terran from one of the last episodes. You are plat, your micro usually has negative impact, so making fun of a-move really doesn't make sense.

[@dppsupporter5622]

@@henningbreede6428 lmao u owned this guy 🤣

[@Narilius]

@@henningbreede6428 You got it all wrong chief. You are right about my micro having no impact. If zerg goes ling bane muta, and A-Moves, a Terran like me has a tough time. That is all I am saying.

[@Narilius]

@@dppsupporter5622 Yep he got me good. I took it right on the chin. KAPOOOW

[@zardecil9419]

That creep spread was actually disgusting

[@janfreiheit4394]

harstem. did u smoke some reefer before making this video?

[@tallformyage]

You are hilarious. Very fun video! Keep it up!

[@nyx211]

Harstem looks really tired. Is he ok?

[@florianfechner7973]

According to some other video he's got the covids, seeing that he still does content i guess he's alright tho

[@wesleysteiner7240]

"there is a really cool concept called retreating"......lolololol

[@KSriram]

Apparently Disruptors are A-move units.

[@legopalji]

You've got a new title papa Harstem god of Protoss