#1 Build Series - First Meeting with David de Villiers - Performance Aluminium Cruising Catamaran

Welcome! Today we're looking at the various options that I have in the cruising catamaran world !
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[@anthonywheaton1632]

Looking forward to seeing your Nahoa 55 build start

[@sailing.destiny]

Thanks so much for the comment. Yip... going to be a magical when we she starts getting built that's for sure... got to visit a few ship yards first to find the best fit.

[@Bigfish300]

Zatara now have 2 broken rudders, so the David de Villiers design makes so much more sense. SV Dauntless has a detailed video on youtube about air conditioners and high pressure raw water pumps and manifolds.. Nahoa has been on catamarans right around the world and would be a good tutor. You only need a flybridge if you gonna tunafish off Maine..

[@sailing.destiny]

Thanks so much for the comment and support. I did not realise that Zatara have had 2 broken rudders now but I have seen it happen to a few people. The "sturdiness" of David's design, as well as the material choice, is one of the many reasons I am going this way. I also love the concept of being able to beach her if needed. The Barefoot Doctors made some really good points about the benefit of being able to beach. I will check out Dauntless for air con, thanks for that, as if you watch my episode about Thailand you'll see that a MUST have for me :-). Thanks again for the comment and support.

[@nortonmolly]

Look forward to following your journey 👍👍

[@sailing.destiny]

Thanks so much for the comment and support Andrew. Yip it's going to be a fun ride/journey for sure !

[@JimmyJones-mo2to]

So cool to see this! I am wanting to build an updated version of David's 62 aluminum cat, but I want to do everything myself. I have 5 years until my youngest graduates high school. Excited to follow your progress.

[@sailing.destiny]

Hey Jimmy. Thanks so much for the comment and support. Super cool that you are looking at the 62 and hats off to you that you are going to build it yourself. I know my limitations for sure when it comes to that so am going to look at builders to do it for me. Hoping that you'll find all the research and content I put out there hopeful on your build and look forward to sharing an anchorage some day with our DVD designs.

[@pmorph]

Having built a 40' Pescott catamaran-- had the shell professionally built and then I fitted her out. You are dead right on KISS, all the extra stuff is just crap to go wrong. I worked as much as I could to only have stuff on the boat that I could fix. I had outboards, which I loved but not suitable for your boat. simple is sooooo much better. Finally have a think about daggerboards. They are more expensive to build but they make the boat soooooo much more enjoyable to sail and will get you out of trouble if you have to get off a lee shore in big weather. I got hit in huge winds off the Gold Coast and the daggerboards keep us connected to the water and even severely reefed down we were going hard on the wind. Mini keels just can't do this. Good luck with it. Phil

[@sailing.destiny]

Hey Phil. Thanks so much for the comment and and the support and also for sharing your valuable insight. Thanks for confirming that I am on the right path here with KISS. I'm actually seeing David this weekend at the Delos 2.0 launch so will pester him about Daggerboards... and of course my flybridge 🤣 I'm seeing a builder next week in Thailand and will be looking at a similar strategy. Get the structure built with rigging on and then move it to another site to get fitted out. Will be a LOT more hands on for sure and take longer I know but the reason I am going this path is that if/when shit breaks I know where to start looking at fixing things as right now I'm clueless ! Thanks again.

[@pmorph]

@@sailing.destiny Don't underestimate just how much there is to do building the interior, especially if you want it to look good. The hulls and shell are the easy and quick bit...You'll get pushback on daggerboards, they are more expensive to build, they are more moving parts, however the performance angle and the ability to pull them up for safety at sea reasons, I think, makes them a no brainer.

[@sailing.destiny]

@@pmorph from a time perspective I'm guesstimating 1/3 for the shell and then 2/3rds for the interior fit out. In your experience if that a realistic number ? Thanks again for your comment and support 🙏

[@pmorph]

@@sailing.destiny I think it's more. could be 1/4 ratio. Depends on how much they do on the interior like the insulation etc. AND, it depends on the quality of the fit out you want. For a 47 composite cat, I was quoted 7000 hours at least and probably, 1500 of that was building the hulls. The time is all in the finish. building furniture is pretty quick, making it look great takes time. Also, what are your thoughts on electrics? Are you going all electric or will you have gas cooking-- for me I'd go gas and also the simplest non electronic diesels you can get. Eg Beta or a kabota based engine, preferably with as little electronic componetry as you can. You can have a perfectly fine diesel engine that won't start because the computer "says no"

[@sailing.destiny]

Thanks for the clarification on that. Was chatting to David de Villiers today at the Delos flip and some time estimates sound spot on. As for power system - I'm busy doing the homework on that now and will be in a future video. The plan is to go full lithium as both with the Delos 2.0 and Nahoa 55 there is a LOT of space for solar so I'm hoping that should be able to power up an army... but will let you know my conclusion in a video once I've done that research. As for engines... I am opting for Yanmar 57's and not going for the new fancy hydro options to KISS 🤣. Thanks again for the comment and valuable input 🙏

[@MarvinNuto]

I am now following your journey.

[@sailing.destiny]

Magic to have you here Marvin... going to be a fun journey for sure !

[@yanassi]

I’m curious. Considering the green future, solar panels, evolving batteries, and relevant technologies …what are the naval engineers and architects doing in that regard on personal boats?

[@sailing.destiny]

Great question and from what I pick up there are 2 camps on this. I am doing an episode on energy on Destiny so keep an eye out for that. The 2 camps that I mention are electric everything and then the more conservative camp is electric pretty much everything but then still have diesel motors. David's designs have a LOT of space for solar so my intention is to power her mainly off solar batteries but then have "old school" diesel engines as well..... this is "as of today" and things change quickly. Thanks for the comment and support !

[@lightning9279]

Have you looked at Circa Marine out of NZ? They build commercial, yachts, small crafts....all aluminum.

[@sailing.destiny]

Thanks for the comment and suggestion. I have heard of them but I am trying to be cost conscious and avoid 1st world countries where I can. Having lived in Australia for the last 11 years I know how ridiculously expensive things are here, especially compared to SE Asia, and shake my head every time I come back here and $ 100 get me a dinner for the kids and not much else. Thanks so much for the recommendation and support 🙏

[@ClintSimonsen]

Isn't that where Nahoa is getting built?

[@sailing.destiny]

I unfortunately am not to sure where Nahoa is getting their's built. From what I know they have not started yet.

[@waltervanderboor]

Sounds like you totally under estimated it at the start. Just designing the interior, we have been working on it for almost 2 years. There's so many small things. Know the Nahoa and some of the choices they made. There's always compromise for everything. Just as you did: determine your usage and then decide.

[@sailing.destiny]

Hey Walter - if you referring to me underestimating how much time and "ripple affect" each change made... then yes... you are 100 % correct. Was eye opening to sit with David and I'm so glad that I went to see him in person so that I could fully understand the process. Yip, I am going to go with about 97 % of what Nahoa have designed with one or two small tweaks that David also feels are good ideas and worth the time/money to make the change. Thanks for the comment and support.

[@oldandnauti4694]

Yeah Robyn's pie's are great 😊

[@sailing.destiny]

Indeed they are... word on the street it's the secret technique she uses to knead the dough 😉 Thanks for the comment and support 🙏

[@oldandnauti4694]

@@sailing.destiny yeah special technique 😄, she told us all about it last night at a friend's 75th birthday

[@tonyacerra2329]

Have you checked out the Portofino 52?

[@sailing.destiny]

Thanks so much for the reply and support. Yes, I did check out the Portofino 52..... looks BEAUTIFUL as well. Check out this video that I recorded before going to visit David a 2 months ago where I discuss it and the other options I looked at ... kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2epdZtqaLmWqac