Building A Balanced Star Citizen PC

How do you build a balanced PC for Star Citizen? How do you make sure your CPU and GPU match? In this video I tested 3 CPU's and 3 GPU's in different combo's at 1080p, 1440p and 4K. I've got some recommendations!
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Test Setup
Star Citizen Alpha 3.22
Resolution 1080p, 1440p, 4K
GPU: 4080, 1080Ti, 1660
CPU: 7800X3D
RAM: 32GB 6000MHZ CL30
CPU: 5800X3D
RAM: 32GB 3600 MHZ CL16
CPU: i5 10400
RAM 16GB 2400MHZ
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[@applecrow8]

instructions unclear, bottlenecking my 4090 with a 586.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

😂

[@theMedicatedCitizen]

this got me laughing. my first sim was Chuck Yeager's Flight Sim on my x286... good old floppy disks

[@SpaceTomato]

Absolutely the best channel for (the everchanging) Star Citizen PC specs discussion. Thanks, man o7

[@dinotimes9110]

I was just searching for a video like this as I get the notification, a minute in and looks like it's going to be very informative, thanks!

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Hope it helps- feel free to ask any questions after!

[@dinotimes9110]

@@tenpoundfortytwo Thankyou very much! My only question is how would something like the 12th\13th gen i3s and i5s compare?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

@dinotimes9110 I have done some testing with them in the past (if you search on my channel you should find them). The i3 are really impressive for what they are but are a bit behind the 5800x3d from what I can remember. The i5s upwards should be ahead of the 5800x3d in some areas of the game and slightly behind in others. Good options!

[@dinotimes9110]

@@tenpoundfortytwo That‘s great, thankyou very much!

[@NoahPraetorius]

I have the RTX 3060TI, i5-12400F and only 16GB Physical ram, BUT have limited the paging file / Virtual memory to 50 gig (probably overkill) and it runs hella smooth

[@lifes2short4bs73]

I'm running a 7800x3D, 64g DDR5 6000, and a 4070ti at 3440x1440. It was a massive upgrade from my i7 8700 with a 1080ti

[@mynickisalreadytaken]

Great to hear. I recently upgraded from i7 8700+RX6600+16GB Ram and 2560x1080 to R7600-RX6800+32GB 6000CL30 snd 3440x1440. Can't wait to test it. On the previous System, it ran okayish, but Ram and CPU were an Issue mostly and it was far from fun.

[@juicebowl]

Yup I bought 7800x3d and 64gb of ram upgraded from an i7 4770k. Still running GTX 1080. Running resolution at 1920x1200 currently. I'm seeing great results now even with the old GPU. From 20 fps with the 4770k in cities to 30-40 fps on the low end now with the 7800x3d. Hasn't been this playable in years for me and the game city traveling feels like what it used to back like in 2016 or 2017.

[@Traumglanz]

That seems a bit low for the 7800x3D. Is your ram properly setup to get the maximum out of that 7800x3D memory controller, because your cpu shoud be several times faster than my 2700x and not only roughly the same fps.

[@nebojsamamula1444]

I love that i need to work 6 months no food no nothing to buy rig and play 60 fps SC.. Awesome .. Great videos btw keep the god work..

[@ttownscott]

I love that you go through the effort to do these videos

[@UnpluggedCord]

Thank you for all the hard work you put into doing these videos! Expected FPS based on hardware graphs are a godsend. Best channel for hardware news in relation to Star Citizen during its buggy alpha. Sincerely, someone still running a 4790k and GTX 980.😅

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Thanks for the very kind words!

[@ranulfwulfric6595]

Thank you

[@the_cluster]

My setup for 4K: Ryzen 9 7900x3d, 64 Gb ram (ddr5 6200), RTX 4070Ti - from 35 fps in a big and difficult locations to 80-90 fps in simple locations/space. New 4070ti super can be better and not so expensive as 4080/4090. Star Citizen works noticeably better on processors with a large number of cores/threads. I think the minimum requirements for playing SC without lags is 12 cores/24 threads.

[@omertaprimal6913]

Bcuz of my old rig I play at 720p with sharpening on and it honestly doesn't look nearly as bad as i was expecting. I'm used to playing games at 2k.

[@UnpluggedCord]

Yep! Im on a GTX 980 and I was impressed by how well the sharpening improved the quality at 720p+sharpening, even coming from 1080p.

[@MuadDiiib]

Thank you for testing this

[@toecutter9372]

I recently upgraded from a 3600x to a 5900x paired with a 6700xt and wow, I doubled my frames. In QT, I average like 110 fps at 1440p. Great video m8

[@alexanderkluge6835]

Well done! 3 months ago I upgraded from 5600x and gtx 1070 to 5900x and 6750xt with high performance in SC at 1440p and good results in adobe apps.

[@Vagrant-Paladin]

Wow that is a lot of testing! Thank you for posting this.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yep took a while! No problem!

[@CreediusMaximus]

I wanted to add that what I expressed on getting FPS wise isn't as well investigated as you have done for all your videos. I do have things like resizable bar turned on which I found help my personal experience. I play with the 9600 KF overclock to 4.8 on each core, 32 gigs of DDR4 ram running at 3400 MHz at 16 cas, and a 3090. As well I have other tweaks set up on the computer for the game to ride as fast as I can. When in cities in the busy areas I stay around 35 to 50 frames a second depending on what exactly I'm looking at lol inside of habitats in the cities I'm around 70 frames a second and then in space I'm around 100 plus. I keep everything cranked up even the clouds at the highest setting it can be and I play at an odd resolution cuz it's the DSR upscaling from Nvidia but is the two times of from 1080 so it's not 4K or anything but it's still makes all the jaggies and stuff go away and look really nice without sacrificing a lot of friends.

[@SingleTrack66]

Thank you soooo much for this. ❤

[@magiczack291]

8400 1660S and 24GB of ram pushing 60fps from your last video about upscaling. I highly recommend anyone use their GPU UI upscale option if struggling with SC

[@Flakey86]

Just curious why the 7800X3D is the high end CPU and not the 7900X3D or 7950X3D? On paper, the latter two seem much more capable? Thanks!

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Good question! I've tested the 7950X3D vs the 7800X3D in the past (kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5iTc6WJh7GGd7M). They basically perform the same in SC at the moment. Ultimately, the game just can't fully utilise the extra cores so the 7800X3D ends up being a much cheaper and better option. That could potentially change in the future as CIG optimise the engine.

[@Flakey86]

@@tenpoundfortytwo That makes sense! thanks for the reply!

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

@Flakey86 no problem!

[@javadan]

I agree with everything you presented, but I'm wondering what changes, if any, Vulkan will bring. It will be interesting.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yep going to be very interesting. I'll be doing lots of testing!

[@moonraker2634]

Hi, really finding your videos informative and helpful, thanks for effort you put into the channel. One thing, you have mentioned a Discord which would be useful to join and ask some questions for a build but the Discord link doesn't work in the description text. It's probably just an expired link. If you could provide a valid one please. Maybe worth linking one without expiration to save updating often. Thanks again!

[@Bloodlit]

I just built a new rig to pair with my four year old one for a dual PC Star citizen stream. It has a Ryzen 5 5600x with 32gb ram and a RTX 4060 in it.

[@evictor99]

I was planning to do a 7800x3d with 64gb of 6000 ddr5, and just reuse my 3060.

[@attieable]

Ryzen 7500F with Radeon 6800.....Budget build did in dec...runs great

[@kaisersolo76]

Great Citizen Service Announcement . Job done .

[@eshamblazer]

I just got a 4080 super but I been using a 1080ti with a 14th gen i9 and I never dip under 30fps playing at 2k

[@DeplorableInfidel71]

built my system for 2k. amd 6700x, 32g ddr5 at 5800, and a 4070gpu. have great results with fps

[@lisandroantoniotejedor136]

Waiting my 5700x3d to get home and try my Crusader C1 along with the 1080ti ❤ hope to run the game on an average of 50fps

[@jimashby43]

That was informative. And something to think about when building a minimum spec system. For Star Citizen. I guess in gaming in general this might not be so important, but you would think it would run most games just fine, especially simulator games like Microsoft flight simulator.

[@nathanforrester5140]

great video! I am using the 5800x3d and the 3080. I am happy with the setup and plan to just stick with it till Star citizen develops more. I believe that the CPU bottleneck will lessen as we get more polish. I would love to see enough improvement to justify one more video card upgrade with my 5800x3d but I am not going to hold my breath on that one.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

That's a very well balanced system! Yeah, hopefully we'll see some optimization in the next couple of years. You should be fine with that PC for a while!

[@Traumglanz]

Yeah there is a lot of optimisation possible with the entity count, especially once server meshing works because the in memory entities hopefully decrease dramatically on the client and server side both once areas are split into smaller chunks. You can see already who well the engine can run in Arena Commander, which brings me to the elephant in the room. Benchmarking major cities is a bit pointless. Even low end machines can run Arena Commander fine and the best pvp is found there. The CPU requirements are still pretty high compared to the GPU requirements, but not as insane as in the PU.

[@nifte4635]

Currently running the game with following CPU: R9 7950X3D Gpu: MSI RTX 4080 Ram: 128gb ddr5 6,600mhz 340mm Corsair AIO Samsung OLED g8 monitor 3440x 1440 res

[@TheVirtualFloof]

No disrespect mate, but you just proved yourself wrong.. the i5 had more FPS in 4k than the new AMD CPU [with the 4080]

[@MrTim4pc]

Love your compare! Im running an ol i5 8400 with a 1080Ti and on a budget. Im looking at some AMD bundles that dont break the bank. With your info I can upgrade cpu and then gpu down the road! Thank you So much! see you in the verse! Mrtim4pc in game!

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Glad it's helpful! Yep the 1080ti should be fine for a good while longer! CPU first would be my recommendation.

[@MrFurkettun]

I am currently running a 3570K processor and an RX 470 graphics card. I've been contemplating an upgrade, especially for playing Star Citizen. If the game is currently enjoyable and worth playing, what upgrades should I consider? Should I make the upgrade now or wait until Star Citizen is out of the alpha stage?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Very tricky question to answer! There is something pretty special about it even now, but it's quite a long way from a 'game'. It's very buggy and you often have to create your own fun (best played with friends, imo). If you decided to build a new system now, I'd recommend a 7800X3D and the GPU would depend on what resolution your monitor is? The bonus of building something with SC in mind is that it will play everything else absolutely fine!

[@ImreBertalan86]

I recommend waiting a little (few months) if you can. Reason is, AMD and Intel will both release new generation of CPUs this spring-summer and that will affect the prices for the used market too. If we are lucky, we might see some good deals on the 5800X3D or maybe even the 5700X3D. Since you use a 3rd gen Intel CPU, I assume, you will replace everything. With that in mind, maybe skip Intel 13th and 14th gen and go to 15th gen straight if you can afford it. If not, I would go for an AMD Ryzen 7000 something CPU (anything above 7600) because, that can be replaced with any 8000 CPU or 9000 when you'll have the chance. IDK about Intel compatibility, but if history tells us anything, for the new generation of CPUs, you'll need a new MOBO too. So AMD and then you can upgrade that years later. Just like I'm planing to. I'm on Ryzen 3600 and will try to upgrade to 5700X3D. Funny, how they still cost like 250$....

[@MrFurkettun]

@@tenpoundfortytwo I currently use a 1080p screen, and while I enjoy space games like Elite Dangerous, I'm drawn to the immersive experience promised by Star Citizen. However, I've heard about the wipes in Star Citizen, and the unpolished state of the game has kept me from playing it on my current setup, which includes a 3570K processor and an RX 470 graphics card. Despite my desire for a more polished experience, I'm hesitant to invest in hardware upgrades just for Star Citizen, especially if there's uncertainty about its performance on my PC. I also understand that Squadron 42, the single-player component of Star Citizen, is highly anticipated. Do you know if Squadron 42 is expected to release this year, and should I wait for its release before considering any upgrades?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

@MrFurkettun my guess is that squadron 42 will be in 2025, so waiting for that before building a PC is probably what I would do in your situation. Star Citizen itself should be significantly better by then too!

[@seyekoh]

If you have a microcenter near you, check out what they have available. You can usually find really good deals on builds, especially if you build it yourself

[@Daniel.Liddicoat]

I've been using a system with an i7 8700K, a 1080 Ti and 2x16GB DDR4 RAM for 5 years and the only reason I want to upgrade is to get a better CPU and RAM. 1080Ti is a tank for SC.

My spec is: i7-12700KF RTX 3070 TI, 32GB 5600 DDR5. I tried the game during the Free Flight event, but I had to give up on the game. I was able to push my fps to around 120 fps in a less crowded space, 60 fps in a city on average. However, the most crucial part of the game is FPS mode (shooting) the FPS affects the most. When being on a planet or in FPS PvP Arena mode, my FPS was very at 80-90 FPS at best, but it very often dropped down under 20 fps unpexpectally. So it is practically unplayable. The fps drops were not map-based, it was just sporadic. Mostly I was able to keep about 50-60 fps, but it was almost unplayable against other players in FPS mode compared to 100 fps (and I can't even imagine better). The game must patch the game with optimization first to make it playable. There are also very limited options to set graphics preferences in the game. I think when the game keeps up at 80-100 fps at the minimum in any situation playing with other players and on end-game spec pc, then we can call it playable.

[@SniperSnipedYou]

I have a 3700x with a 7900xtx. I'm not proud of it lol, but I'm saving to upgrade the rest currently. the telemetry map doesn't even register my build. avg 53 fps

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Could you get pick up a 5800X3D (or 5700X3D)? Would do wonders in that system!

[@SniperSnipedYou]

@@tenpoundfortytwo I was thinking about going to ryzen 7900x3d but let's face it. a 5800x3d is more practical wallet wise

[@Traumglanz]

@@SniperSnipedYouAM5 got a lot cheaper this days and grabbing a 7800x or 7950x would not be a bad choice considering that RAM prices might not fall any further in the coming 18 months. The 7900x3d is btw a piece of trash. It only has 6 cores with the 3D Cache and thus performs for gaming significantly slower than a 7800x3D. Still slightly faster than a 5800x3D, but unless you absolutely need the 4 more cores for productivity and can not get the extra budget for a 7950x … stay away from the 7900x3D. 7800x3D or 7950x3D are almost always the better choice one way or another.

[@SniperSnipedYou]

@@Traumglanz I will keep that in mind thank you

[@SniperSnipedYou]

Update: I know nobody asked for it but I decided to get a 5800x3d and I'm glad I did. I saved a lot of money by not buying a whole new set up. drastically improved without breaking the bank

[@Traumglanz]

What do you mean balanced in your title? You grab the CPU/MB which supports the fastest memory you can find, use either 32 or 64gb of that memory and anything left is your GPU Budget ;-) There is no balance to be found in Star Citizen yet. There is only insane ram latency and bandwidth requirements to push fps. :p

[@user-oj5oq4jz1x]

i was WAITING for this type of video.

[@angepano8591]

Nice comparison! I think that my next build will be an x3d CPU. Maybe the next gen, as I am now on an intel 12700. Seems like the current Intel CPUs get an 'OK but not great' score in SC. I can't complain too much, I see 50s in Lorville and ArcCorp at 1440 so it's not bad, just not wonderful.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

The newer Intel chips (12th/13th/14th gen) are definitely good options for SC- but as you say maybe not the best right now! I'll be testing the next gen from both companies, hopefully we'll see some good upgrade options!

[@omertaprimal6913]

I was literally just thinking about this

[@LucidStrike]

Long-term, you're not necessarily wasting your money by throwing money at the GPU -- especially given CIG is trying to make good Global Illumination part of min spec and are just generally moving more and more to the GPU -- but yeah, it's hard to see SC ever being a characteristically GPU-limited game below 4K, even after Vulkan arrives.

[@wehavedonuts7767]

might have a bit of a weird build for star citizen, but I’m curious if it would be enough: CPU: Ryzen 7 7800X3D RAM: 32gb DDR5 6000 SSD: Samsung Evo SATA SSD GPU: GTX TITAN 6GB Obviously going to upgrade the GPU at some point, but what do you think of my rig for Star Citizen in its current state?

[@518UN4]

going from a 3700x to an 5800x3d improved my experience a lot. if you are on a budget thats the best upgrade imo.

[@IBornToFlexI]

Just upgraded from a 1660 super to a 4060 and now needing to upgrade my ram from 16gb to 32gb smh this game is harsh

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yep unfortunately it's absolutely brutal!

[@Vexrak]

This just tells me that NO hardware currently out can run Star Citizen properly. And since the game is years away from being an MMO. Might as well wait for Zen 6 or at the very least Zen 5 which itself will be 30% faster when combined with better ram and coming in July. At least i know the 4090 has no point for 1080p 360hz monitor which is what i use

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yep, this is a good way to look at it I think. In a couple of generations CPU's should help us get more performance!

[@glown2533]

Still running a ryzen 9 3900xt with 32gb of 4000mhz actual clock is 1900 with 1.1 fabric and ram sync ryzen 3000 was never the best in star citizen but after my single core oc to 4.9 and ram oc I was getting nearly always high 55s it seemed to make it more consistent rather then just faster it just stayed at the highs better

[@ZeRoXTi]

Upgraded from a 2060S to a 4070 in 1440p and yeah, in 95% of the time my CPU (R7 5700X) is bottlenecking my GPU, but most of the time i‘m still getting 60fps+

[@parkerxgps]

Thank you, YT needs to plug you into the algorithm more.

[@illgottengains1314]

I have a 7950 which is too much for my PC to cool. I underclock it using Ryzen Master software and I get 5.25 GHz at 1.2 volts which pulls less than 100 watts. Just thought I’d mention it in case anybody wants to try it 👍

[@XiXGoldeyXiX]

CIG should make this video mandatory for all backers! Also, my system is officially mid range 😮‍💨 good news is that if there is an ending in sight in the next few years I think I'll stick with my current setup, and rather upgrade with the release of 1.0

[@spacekraken666]

I currently have Ryzen 7 2700, RTX 3070 and 64GB of RAM. I get around 27 FPS at Orison. I suspect that the CPU is showing its age here. Would 5700X be a good upgrade? I'm looking at this one because it's 65w just like my 2700, so less load on PSU and possibly no need to replace the cooler? Surely the X3D stuff makes a big difference, but they are hotter and more expensive too.

[@Traumglanz]

With 27 FPS at Orison I would suspect that not only your CPU is showing its age, but your RAM OC being pretty poor as well. My 2700x seems to do usually a bit better at Orison unless my bios forgets the RAM OC. 3200mhz with CL16 should be the bare minimum imho and the optimum RAM OC should be somewhere around 3433mhz with c14. The FPS really scale basically linear with your RAM. So imagine how much FPS you are not getting when you run your memory with something like 2133mhz CL16 based on some slow JEDEC profile.

[@nextgengreymanofficial458]

Graphics don’t really matter I had good graphics. The only problem was the elevators disappeared. You could fall through the map you go in a cave you fall through the map and die or the game crashes for no reason 30 FPS and it just crashes.

[@dimitarstefanov4657]

Still waiting for Vulcan, not only for better performence, but for better support for 21:9 and 16:10...

[@maelradec6766]

running i5 13th gen, 2080 super and sometime see 100fps, 50-60 in Orison

[@seyekoh]

I currently use a ryzen 7 5800x (not the 3d version) with a 3070ti and 64G of ram running at 1440 and have little to no issues with FPS. The only time i really feel a hit is when the server itself is bogged down

[@quatz1981]

Im curious how the new Ryzen 5 7600 performs in Star Citizen. I presume it would be similar to the Ryzen 7 5800X3D.

[@Sparky_007]

I have a 5900X and going to a 5800X3D is a tough move for me. Not sure it's worth the performance bump at the loss of productivity potential in a mixed system that isn't just for gaming..

[@Traumglanz]

Seems not worth it, especially as the next generation is coming this year anyway and usually 6-12 month afterwards we get new 3D CPUs. The performance increase for you seems just not to be worth it. Especially as you might still leaving a lot of FPS on the table from memory OC. It's all about memory for Star Citizen really.

[@cm16533]

I didn't see any benchmarks for it but I'm assuming 4070 combined with 7800x3d is more than enough for 1440p?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

4070 should be plenty for SC at 1440p right now!

[@streetrider1001]

Just recently bought star citizen and this video is very helpful as I realize my computer at its current state wont cut it. thanks bro, quick question though, how come all the GPU tests were with Nvidia GPUs? Is there any difference in performance between a AMD or Nvidia GPU in this game?

[@silenciummortum2193]

5800X3D, 32 GB of RAM and 6750XT. Thinking of bumping to 64 GB. Thoughts?

[@Tainted-Soul]

Also for them that think 7950x3d makes any difference . As mine died last weekend Motherboard fault 00 . I went for the 7800x3d ok my AIDA64 panel looks a little empty LOL and the CPU runs a little slower than the 7950x3d I am getting the same ish FPS maybe 5fps less in some places but I would say nothing as one day you get a clear New Babbage the next carnage. still waiting for CIG to use all the cores again this Gen 12 only uses 1 or 2 threads most of the time

[@mr_george7761]

I want to build completly new PC for Star Citizen. What do you think about i5 12400 with rtx 4060? I want 1080p, max 1440p gaming

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yep, that will run SC pretty well! kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5OvlH9qYrWBm6s this one should give you an idea of how the 4060 will perform. The 4060 only has 8GB of VRAM, which is fine right now in SC, but hard to know how that will play out in the future. But if you're sticking to 1080p I would think it will be fine for a while. And with the i5 12400, you don't really have much of an upgrade path- I would at least look into the AMD am5 options (even some of the cheaper ones like the 7600 if you cant afford the 7800X3D)- you should have a much better option in the future to upgrade.

[@stephenconnor1847]

So I am assuming my Ryzen 7800 X3D and "old" 2080 Ti are about as good as I am going to get? 1440p monitor.

[@deepop6045]

Im literally building a new pc right now lmfao. I went 7800x3d with the rog strix 4090oc. But I wanted it for other games also. I use a 49ninch oled and 2x 27in 1440. Should b nice though

[@DeepTitanic]

On this channel we uphold X3D

[@dominikspiess5018]

Could you run star citizen with these specs AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 16GB AMD RX 7800XT 32GB RAM DDR5 1TB NVMe SSD MSI PRO B650-S WIFI

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Should run pretty well with that system (for SC)! The 7500F shouldn't be much slower than the 7700X in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5iTc6WJh7GGd7Msi=WkhS-34MSaMhn4Pt And the 7800XT should be great for 1080p and 1440p!

[@HornieCow]

thanks for testing this. So CPU is a bigger factor than RAM speed?

[@Stormyy6310]

How the hell am I getting so low fps (less than 20 in Lorville) with an i5-13400 and RTX 3060 on SC ?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Does that model have ecores? Even so something is wrong if you're only getting 20.

[@Stormyy6310]

@@tenpoundfortytwo Yes it has ecores, 10 cores total with 4 ecores and 6 Pcores I've tried disabling the ecores to make it work better but it didn't really work out, I'm also on 32GB of RAM and a powerful SSD and keep in mind I'm getting *less* than 20, I average about 17, maybe I gotta change the RAM if it's too old I know it is a 2x16 set but it's different models and one of them I had added in the past is absolutely DDR4 the other I don't know but I think it is as well (although it looks very different, I'm not good at knowing PC components)

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

@@Stormyy6310 SC typically doesn't love encores, so I'd be tempted to test either them off again to see if that helps. What resolution is your monitor? The 3060 shouldn't be the problem at 1080p.

[@shufadragon]

My GPU was waiting on the CPU (12600k), my CPU was waiting on the RAM. I went from DDR4-3200 to DDR4-4000, 25% faster in theory, and saw 35% more fps at loreville. HWinfo64 is a free program that can tell you ram info if you dont want to open up your computer.

[@Stormyy6310]

@@tenpoundfortytwo I'm at 1080p indeed and last time I disabled e-cores it really didn't do anything but I'll try and I'll keep you updated thanks for the advise

[@Tartiflette-py5zh]

Good job ! 😉 👍

[@Kai_7901]

A ligit question. Im not knocking on the game. I have a 5800x3D, 7900xt with 32gigs of ram. I fully understand its Alfa build. With that said, are the major citys the hardest hitting on the cpu. Im only getting 35 to 50 fps with most of the time hitting 42. When i leave the major citys does FPS improve ? If it does im fine with that. I also play at 1440 P. Also i experience alot of GPU swing. I go from 70 when FPS drops to 0. Is this only in the major Citys if it is i can live with that. Is there anything i can do to improve or it is what it is.

[@Grymyrk]

What about RAM? I have 16gig 3200 DDR4. Star Citizen is the only game that actually maxes out the RAM, most games have heaps of headroom on 16gig. So I don't know if more RAM will improve the performance at all. And right now Star Citizen feels a bit choppy even at decent frame rates. Also other specs, Ryzen 7 5800X and RTX 2070 Super.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/b52mfX2vmdp7prcsi=wRs83BGvdxAjvwJv this still holds true. 32gb won't necessarily bring you more FPS, but it should help smooth things out. But it won't fix all of SC's performance issues. Popping in a 5800x3d would give you a boost in frames, combined with 32gb of 3600 cl16 ram, that's really the best you can get out of your current motherboard. But again- SC just doesn't run that well for anyone!

[@dominikspiess5018]

Does star citizen run on a 4070 super AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 32GB RAM DDR5 1TB NVMe SSD MSI PRO B650-S WIFI

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yep good system, should run relatively well (for star citizen) on that!

[@Jay-xq1dc]

Would the RX7800XT be a good match with Ryzen 5 7600X (AM5) for 1440p?

[@Pabloise]

I5 11400 3060ti 16gb ram, I only get around 10-20 fps on lorville is my pc underperforming a lot?

[@azntactical4884]

9900k, 3060 and 32gb ram does well in star citizen. 9900k with a770...not so much.

[@skylerrobbins3910]

Processor AMD Ryzen 5 5600H with Radeon Graphics 3.30 GHz Installed RAM 12.0 GB (11.3 GB usable) idk shit really just got a cheap gaming laptop awhile ago at min reqerments is this ok ish or just scrap it for a new one

[@marceloaugusto4969]

My build it's i7 11700 rtx 3060ti is that OK? I shouldn't upgrade cpu? I play already I don't fell struggling

[@Wolf-uy7px]

what about the new AMD 8700G?

[@Roman_Bo]

How do you switch on fps more than 60 in game? There is ingame limit

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Could be vsync- try turning that off in the graphics menu.

[@Roman_Bo]

@@tenpoundfortytwo its off

[@akshaybissoon6527]

Building my first pc and i need some help, i have a Ryzen 7 7800x3D and I'm having trouble choosing between RTX 3060 OC 12GB and RTX 4060 8GB, both of which i'm getting for the same price. Which one will run SC more smoothly?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

This one should help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5OvlH9qYrWBm6ssi=eCPeMA34k9vz5cR7 The vram does make it a tricky one though! Longer term the 3060 might be a better option, even though it doesn't perform as well right now. Something like a 7700xt might also be worth looking at.

[@akshaybissoon6527]

Ok the choice is now between a 3090ti and a 4070ti, same price again. I'm so confused, lol, I also need it for video editing.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

@@akshaybissoon6527 I found this : kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5u7mJd-qpKieJosi=UnlXUXhVVp4SO2N9 Both will be very powerful options!

[@SebastiaanSwinkels]

Would you say that an RX7800XT is wasted on a i7-10700k?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Most likely yep. If you are heavily overclocking the i7 then you should squeeze out a fair bit more performance than the 10400. But I still think you'd see a decent boost by moving to a new cpu (and motherboard and ram- won't be cheap!).

[@SebastiaanSwinkels]

@@tenpoundfortytwo Gah, that's unfortunately not happening any time soon. Only got the 10700, and mobo just last year (it's only part time gaming system, most of the time it's hackintosh, hence the older hardware). I thought about getting a used RX6900XT or RX6800XT, but those are used nearly as expensive as the 7800XT. I briefly looked for used 1080TI's as well, but those are rather rare here (and the ones that do pop up are too expensive).

[@Vedoji]

Hello! So I have a laptop with a Ryzen 5 5600H, and an RTX 3050 mobile. So I have a very low capacity SSD and 8GB 3200MHz DDR4 RAM. Are all my components being limited by my low RAM? I tested another game with dual channel 16GB my friend gave me. It doubled my FPS. So I'm planning to upgrade my RAM and SSDs to 32GB with 1TB. Will this be good for Star Citizen? And what performance can I expect? Sorry for the long comment, I've been trying to find a solution for this for a while! Also thanks for the video! Has been helpful at least getting some rough estimates on where I could be.

[@Doychin_Penev]

how about the 7900 gre? Currently paired with 5600x. Is it worth it to upgrade to 5800x3d or bite the bullet and get 7800x3d instead? (ok the GPU in the PC is still a 1080 - no time to switch to 7900 gre)

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

It all depends on money- the 7800X3d is the better choice long term (but costs a lot more money once you've got the new motherboard and ram)!

[@PopaFlorinCONCEPT]

Hello, I just bought Star Citizen, I installed it but I couldn't get into the game. Looking for a solution, I came across your KZbin channel. Many errors and after all that the screen remained frozen when loading. I can't even enter the game. Is it because I installed it on a laptop? I mention that my laptop is a configuration " Acer nitro 5 , 16 GB RAM, 2T SSD, ryzen 5 , gtx 3060. should I build a pc?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Hmm it should run on that- what screen are you getting stuck on? Can you describe it?

[@hayseedfarmboy]

thats messed up, CPU bound with a 5800X3D to the tune of 60%, cause that difference between the performance of a 1080TI and a 4080, there is nothing balanced about that in anyway fashion or form, really interesting though, i mean ive fried a 7700 before with SC (whole board ram and all just really hot) but had no idea anything could be that CPU heavy, im wondering about thread count vs speed (combined kinda) considering how CPU centric it is,, wonder if a Ryzen 9 would outperform a 5800X3D in Star Citizen, cause the results dont make any sense (not doubting the results) in comparison to anything else, but those results are wild

[@Traumglanz]

It's all about memory really. People tried to optimize ram for their 7700 to the point that it even could outperform the 7800x3d. And the 3D-Cache models naturally perform so well in Star Citizen because the only thing faster than fast ram is even faster cache. But Star Citizen is loading so much data into ram and cache that even those huge stacked caches of the 3D CPUs run out of space and than it becomes again all about memory latency and bandwidth. And keep in mind, most of the benchmarks were done in the big cities with their extreme high entity counts. In space things are a lot less CPU heavy usually and arena commander for example can run easily with more than twice the fps than a Lorville run. Running with 20 FPS on Microtech during IAE while arena commander can give me over 100 fps. Naturally once I am in wave 27 of endless swarm even Arena Commander becomes a cpu bound lagfest on my 2700x. It's all about the amount of stuff the game has to load. My memory speed can btw double half or double my fps as well. There are a few guys on youtube who tested different memory speeds and timings and compared them to each other too. Might want to check them out.

[@Kinovski1]

Hey can i send you a video of a SC run on my old pc intel 7 3770 3.4 up to 3.9ghz 4/8 core with GTX 980 4 gb video and 32 gb DDR3 on SSD.

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Would love that- pop it on the discord!

[@Kinovski1]

@@tenpoundfortytwo can you give me link on discord ?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Check out the link in the video description@@Kinovski1

[@Kinovski1]

@@tenpoundfortytwo yea i just wisp in discord with link.

[@zorikh779]

What about RAM? Could you explain that, or just get the fastest ghz?

[@Traumglanz]

Timings matter too, so aiming for the fastest latency seems to be the better metric if you need a single metric. But as ram speed is always linked to the memory controller and thus directly linked to the CPU and it's always about OC … it becomes a bit of a complex topic. A few videos out there talking specifically about memory tuning and star citizen and the performance gains. And the gains are huge.

[@markstacey6082]

But what about radeons

[@bullymaguire8868]

I run a 7800x3d, 7900xtx, pcie 5.0 ssd and 32gb 6000 cl30. And it still has probs with the servers being laggy pieces of sh*t

[@blackdiamondemon]

Ive got a system with a 3060, an i5 11400 and 16GB of ram, and it was running pretty stably until around IAE last year where it became very unstable, and dropped to like one frame every 5 seconds on public transport in cities (and when entering QT), with frame drops common when doing all other activities like flying and walking around, and when entering. any menu (e.g. mobiglass). Also tried some arena commander and the frames where still low, with common small drops in fps and larger ones when spawining in a new wave of enemies. It has been like this ever since. I did change some settings in the nvidia control panel to get better fps a bit before, but have changed those back after I experienced these drops. Does anyone have any idea maybe why this might be happening? (BTW great vid!)

[@stuartthurstan]

Star Citizen does seem to run better on 32gb ram. It may be worth a try for you. I too run a 3060, along with a 5600x and 32gb ram and get just over 30fps at Orison (1440p) and closer to 40-50fps most of the time.

[@Pabloise]

I have the exact same build im and I expierence this aswell, I just feel like my pc is under powerd, also you’re cpu is probably power throttling like mine aswell, not sure how or if you should fix it as it’s a safety feature

[@blackdiamondemon]

@@Pabloise yeah Ive played around with settings and have managed to get it running pretty well but there are still hiccups. might upgrade before sq42 so I can have better experience when (if) that releases

[@ImreBertalan86]

W8, what???? 5800X3D is mid range? I don't have money to buy a 5600. When did I become so poor, damn it!?!?!?! :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

It's a little above midrange to be fair!

[@commanderoof4578]

Depends heavily on where you live as to how much it costs But it is a midrange CPU and only worth it for games that use the Vcache such as star citizen else the 5800X can be a better choice depending on what games you play and one of the ones you dont play is star citizen cus it needs the Vcache Its a 5800X with Vcache slapped on both are midrange as that comes from performance not the price sp a 5800X3D only exists for those willing to pay the premium for the handful of games that perform better with it over the 5800X

[@seyekoh]

the 5800x specs out a bit better overall than the 3d and its cheaper. The 3d is the highest i can go with my current MB and I have been using the 5800x (the next step "down") for a couple of years now with absolutely no issues

[@Goyahkla100]

I'm running a 11700f with a 3060ti, and i get from 20 - 80 fps........ 🤣 Is this really a good benchark game? Don't upgrade to play Star Citizen, just upgrade!

[@SaviorPrime2024]

Why are you comparing an up to date AMD cpu with an I5 10500k CPU? That is like 5 years old.... compare it to I9-1400k

[@jackinthebox301]

Minimum spec, medium spec, high spec. Listen to the words coming out of his mouth, bruv.

[@Pabloise]

I5 11400 3060ti 16gb ram, I only get around 10-20 fps on lorville is my pc underperforming a lot?

[@tenpoundfortytwo]

Yeah that doesn't sound quite right. What speed is your ram running at?

[@Pabloise]

@@tenpoundfortytwo i think only like 2153 mhz, had to turn off XMP because it was crashing my pc, but its always been like this