Make a New Video with same CPU 4 Core vs 6 Core vs 8 Core vs 10 Core vs 12 Core vs 16 Core pls.
@Scenethroughalens8 сағат бұрын
I run an a770 and used to get much better performance with vulkan (which was to be expected) - but a recent update just broke it where the game crashes when loading if vulkan is switched on. The drivers didnt change, a cig update just broke it.
@tenpoundfortytwo2 сағат бұрын
Great info thanks!
@astolenhotpocket1312 сағат бұрын
SC is the only game I have that overheats my 7800X3D into the 80s temp and has even forced a shutdown. do i need a watercooler now? 7900Xt GPU Everything is perfect except for the CPU temps on SC
@tomfoolery196715 сағат бұрын
My Nvidia 3080 TI crashes all of the time if I use Vulkan as well. I don't think it's an Intel thing. My friend has an AMD 7600 XT and he crashes on Vulkan all the time as well.
@mr.cadillacblood200917 сағат бұрын
with ryzen 5 3600 rtx 2060 super, 16 gb ram and dlss activated is playable?
@justalex421418 сағат бұрын
I hope amd and intel are going to push into the high end market sooner rather than later. Nvidia is completely out of control with their rumored pricing and tdp for the upcoming 50 series...
@TheKrumstuff19 сағат бұрын
Recently went from a 3070ti to a 4070 ti super. Doubled my VRAM and it's a beast
@jimashby4320 сағат бұрын
discord.gg/jNdRY2DR
@ChristianKlasen-mq4rs21 сағат бұрын
Stop throwing money at CIG. Don't buy new pc components to get from 33 trash lagging fps to 42 also trash lagging fps... It isn't worth it. Stop pledge ships. Buy presents for your family instead. Chris isn't worth any trust...
@FrancisFjordCupola23 сағат бұрын
I wouldn't call any particular card "good" for Star Citizen. It's a moving goalpost of unoptimized proportions. As for impact of VRam? Look at the 4060 versus the B580. Near identical frame rates (51.1 vs 50.9 average and 20.0 v 19.4 lowest). Getting more vram doesn't help a bit. Even worse, look at the 4080 vs the 4060. The 4080 has over double the oomph, the raw power. In Star Citizen it can only get out 33% more performance. The whole game is limited by its own bad coding. Having said all that, the B580 has more "future potential", which is always a gamble. It's probably a nice card.
@Crittek23 сағат бұрын
The question is Star Citizen now or Star Citizen a year or two from now? In the near future where we have raytracing, I still think Nvidia is the only option. Buying hardware as a holdover for a future upgrade is typically a waste of money. The only exception I’ve ever seen was the bitcoin craze where you could actually profit from your old GPU purchase.
@tenpoundfortytwo18 сағат бұрын
Yep raytracing is going to be very interesting! Not sure when it will arrive, but it might completely change GPU recommendations for the game.
@Crittek18 сағат бұрын
@ I’m hoping they’ll design their raytracing to have the game require an RT capable card. This will greatly reduce dev time. I’ve done manual placing, falloff adjustments, dynamic hierarchy, etc. and it’s friggin painful. To just be able to place lights, look at the outcome and performance and move on will get us MUCH more locations faster. I believe Indiana Jones and the Great Circle is the first game to actually do this.
@jckl9884Күн бұрын
6 cores benchmark pls. 9600x, 7600x3d.
@tenpoundfortytwo18 сағат бұрын
Can't get the 7600X3D here unfortunately! I focus on the 8 core parts, but yes some 6 core testing would be good to do!
@ingeonsaКүн бұрын
The 3060 is also 192bit vs 4060 128bit memory bandwidth. The 1080's were all 256bit
@tenpoundfortytwoКүн бұрын
A very good point!
@RealBrickzTv1Күн бұрын
Will a rx 6700xt & ryzen 7700x run sc?
@tenpoundfortytwo18 сағат бұрын
Yep will run pretty well (for SC)!
@RealBrickzTv19 сағат бұрын
@@tenpoundfortytwothank you so much, keep up the amazing videos 👍💯
@1jbradyКүн бұрын
How does resizable bar effect the 3000 series on star citizen ? I've just enabled it on a 3080 12gb , not sure I need to do anything else, do I need to use nvidia inspector or should the latest driver auto use it if it beneficial
@N1ghtR1der666Күн бұрын
I am sure it is good for SC, especially since performance is completely CPU bound, min to max settings including screenshot mode for clouds all the way down to the lowest resolution makes about 5-10 fps difference so frankly get whatever car you want
@minecraftprovie5076Күн бұрын
Clouds on photo mode almost doubles GPU usage (from very high). But SC is really so badly CPU optimized I can turn it on with my 4080S and don’t really loose any frames
@Tomas91709Күн бұрын
Good to see that Intel gpus dont have issues on sc
@Andrew-mo5ngКүн бұрын
I have a 5700g with an RX6800 i do the framegen on the iGPU to offload from dGPU -20%. Haven't locked the frame rate but use g-sync mode in LS. Works amazing have all settings maxed at 1080p (monitor limitation) and game sits solid at 75hz. Best part about it when gpu in one part and cpu in another struggles LS props it up. P.s video out is better from iGPU when doing this have less frame latency and lower spikes. Would love to know from someone out there with a 8700g running a dGPU out there would go.
@AllcyonКүн бұрын
Why no 7900 XTX? There's a 4090 up there.
@tenpoundfortytwo18 сағат бұрын
Cost! I did buy a 7900XTX when it released, but it had the hot spot temperature issue so I returned it. The 4080 is plenty to max out the cpu at 1080p and 1440p, I just can't justify the cost of a 4090 at this point!
@ssilver88Күн бұрын
Great video! Hopefully Intel or CIG can figure out whatever issue is causing the stutters. This card is a killer value in the current market and gives a lot of hope for future B700 class cards!
@Sams911Күн бұрын
how does the 9950X do? Same thing, turn off one of the chipsets?
@danielc9312Күн бұрын
Anything has to be better than my GTX 1080 🙈
@SP95Күн бұрын
Can you add the amount of VRAM for each card on your next graphs please And thanks for the quick coverage of this card, let's watch Intel enjoying themselves for one month before AMD and Nvidia move onto the next generation lel
@tenpoundfortytwo18 сағат бұрын
That's a good call, thanks! Yep next gen cards are going to be interesting!
@stuartthurstanКүн бұрын
The B580 looks like a really solid choice in general but maybe not for SC in particular right now. Worse case it holds it's own against the 4060 whilst showing significant advantages in certain situations. Nvidia are putting just 8gb on the 5060 too. That card is going to be DOA. It's already pretty embarrassing that the 3060 provides a smoother gaming experience than the 4060, but if that turns out to also be the case with the 5060 that's going to look really bad. I run SC at 1440p on a 3060 and with quality upscaling I get a 55-65fps experience. I can totally live with it.
@tenpoundfortytwo18 сағат бұрын
Yep the 5060 only having 8GB is an odd choice. I suppose there are plenty of games out there that don't max 8GB out, but it's not going to be a recommended GPU for many people. It's going to be interesting to see how the 3060 ages- upscaling and the 12GB vram should help a lot!
@owd200Күн бұрын
Doing God's work here my man
@EvolutionalКүн бұрын
Drove 6 hours to get my 9800x3d, can't wait to get the rest of my build so I can actually play this game with decent fps lmao
@tenpoundfortytwo18 сағат бұрын
Commitment to the cause! Enjoy!
@Ace-BrigadeКүн бұрын
Could you add whether or not dlss and frame gen are on to your graphs? Could you also add at what level dlss is set to if it's being used? If they aren't being used, could you just maybe put something indicating that it is fully rasterized?
@tenpoundfortytwo18 сағат бұрын
For GPU testing I don't use frame gen or upscaling, so unless the graph shows otherwise assume they are off! But I'll have a think about how to better communicate that!
@Ace-Brigade17 сағат бұрын
@@tenpoundfortytwo Awesome. Thank you for the reply. I wanted to assume that but.... we all know what happens when we assume right. :-)
@tenpoundfortytwo15 сағат бұрын
@@Ace-Brigade yep worth checking!
@SmokeWiseGanjaКүн бұрын
does he not have either a 7900xt or xtx? seems weird to have a 4080 in the mix just to punch down on the mid range cards.
@SeanenanigansКүн бұрын
I am a avid SC player rocking a 2080. I decided I will not upgrade computer again until, my GPU brakes or the game releases version 1.0
@tenpoundfortytwo18 сағат бұрын
2080 should still be plenty powerful enough! I wonder how it will hold up with the 8GB of VRAM over the next few years. I would like to pick one up for some testing at some point!
@TOXICGURRКүн бұрын
why not test the 6950xt?
@demonicsquid721720 сағат бұрын
He needs to have one first. I've got one myself but they are pretty rare as they weren't popular with gamers as anyone willing to spend that money on a GPU was going to buy an Nvidia card.
@tenpoundfortytwo18 сағат бұрын
Yep don't have one! The higher end parts just cost a lot more so I'm much more limited in what I can buy!
@TOXICGURR18 сағат бұрын
@@demonicsquid7217 I have one too. Xfx one. I thought people didn’t buy it because the specs were so similar to the 6600xt or something like that. I can’t remember. I would just like to see where that card stands on performance with the other cards even tho it’s a CPU game. I have a 5800x3d pair with it. 32gb ram
@TOXICGURR18 сағат бұрын
@ ah okay. I keep seeing streams skip over the 6950xt to test and always use the 6700xt etc and I’m like ‘am I the only one that have this card’ lol
@TOXICGURRКүн бұрын
i have a 6950xt, 5800x3d, 32gb ram and im constantly getting a GPU error. Have you seen this before? GPU crash: Yes - GPU crash message: GPU CRASH (async): Consider updating any overlay/recording software or try disabling with r_vulkanDisableLayers = 1 in your user.cfg. [.../GPUPipelineStateCacheVulkan.cpp:253 CGPUPipelineStateCacheVulkan::CreatePipeline] (0xFFFFFFF3) An unknown error has occurred; either the application has provided invalid input, or an implementation failure has occurred.. Failed to create graphics pipeline UIPlane@FullScreenPass(GL1080)(RT80000b40004000)(14212622421068612594)
@wrextheblind3787Күн бұрын
I wonder how these compare against a 3060 ti, I’m not very knowledgeable on pc parts
@tenpoundfortytwo18 сағат бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXuxkmusoLCsotE this would give you a rough idea of how the 3060ti would fit in!
@wrextheblind378713 сағат бұрын
@@tenpoundfortytwo oh sweet thanks I’ll check it out
@IronHellionКүн бұрын
I think the B580 is going to outpace the 4600 because of the vram alone. I do suspect there are still driver issues with Intel at the moment, but for the price point an upgrade from a NVIDIA 10 series card it absolutely worth it. All this said intel has been working very hard at getting driver right with Arc. I think it just a matter of time. My biggest hope is that this puts some pressure on low to mid range cards for NVIDIA. It's about time for their BS to come to an end with their pricing schemes.
@BlueSpectreКүн бұрын
we need the card to succeed though, and be adopted to create competition for nvidia and amd, them throttling and controlling the market is bad for our wallets. the drivers will improve over time like with amd and i would love to see this card in every budget minded build over the next year.
@tenpoundfortytwo18 сағат бұрын
Completely agree!
@Ha1rD1aperКүн бұрын
i was playing with a buddy and from what they were saying it seemed like 12GB+ just handles the texture and shader load better. sounds like can somewhat power through with the higher clocks of higher end cards, but also looks like there is still a performance gap between higher end cards with more than 8GB vRAM... Intel hardware is probably ok for the most part, but drivers aren't there yet. maybe next generation. safer bet for 2 more... 13th and 14th Gen intel CPUs have been pretty iffy, so intel might just have to take it from AMD in both ends for next bit. Nvidia just happy for the break to lube up for Computex lol
@Sams911Күн бұрын
what about the 9950X or Intel 13900/14900KS? are they better ?
@tenpoundfortytwo19 сағат бұрын
9950X wouldn't be any better really. If you are prepared to tune/overclock those intel chips (and get fast memory), you can get some impressive performance out of them. If you just want to buy something and then play, the 7800X3D/9800X3D are the best options.
@Sams91118 сағат бұрын
@@tenpoundfortytwo 9800X3D is impossible to find, and a 1 trick pony, I also do 3D work rendering... the problem with my I913900KS setup is it constantly crashes with 128GB... it only runs stable with 64GB... was hoping 9950X would be the best solution - thanks for the help
@Highland_MuppetКүн бұрын
Just found you mate, love that you are checking out hardware compatibility with SC 👍 interesting stuff, look forward to future vids 😁
@tenpoundfortytwoКүн бұрын
Glad you found the channel- thanks for the encouragement!
@jimashby4320 сағат бұрын
@@Highland_Muppet discord.gg/jNdRY2DR The discord channel is probably the teckiest around for star Citizen. Be warned, these guys can detect a neutron in a particle accelerator...lol 😂
@tenpoundfortytwo20 сағат бұрын
@jimashby43 😆
@drnicko988Күн бұрын
Been googling for an SC bench on this card since it came out thanks so much for doing it! Shame about Vulkan it apparently its alot faster running Vulkan in other games aswell. So very much looking forward to the 4.0 bench to see if it changes!
@FritzOFNКүн бұрын
Is not Vulkan still only single threaded in Star Citizen...thus the lower frames vs DirectX?
@CUPv0Күн бұрын
Vulkan on AMD cards on Linux has been largely unusable since 3.24.3 PTU, causing crashes on most configurations. Discussions in the SC LUG seem to suggest this is a CIG-created issue and the current community AMD Vulkan driver on Linux, which apparently follows the Vulkan API very faithfully, is not tolerating whatever problems there are in CIG's implementation of Vulkan. Sadly it's been a while since anything Vulkan has been in the patch notes.
@TheGlassSwordКүн бұрын
Have you heard all this hubbub about the Nvidia app slowing FPS of games by <15%
@tenpoundfortytwo19 сағат бұрын
Yeah saw a hardware unboxed video that seemed to suggest that the overlay is the issue!
@Tainted-SoulКүн бұрын
Thanks again for putting your own money on the line to help CIG and us backers to find what works and what don't. I hope CIG know about all your hard work
@JagHiroshiКүн бұрын
BTW, Intel are aware of the Vulkan issues as of Alchemist - I raised the support case.
@beeleavemeКүн бұрын
Me watching and playing SC with my RX 570 4GB, everything is fine 😊😯😊😱🤗
@tenpoundfortytwoКүн бұрын
If you're happy then it's fine!
@JagHiroshiКүн бұрын
I've got an A750 and it's okay, but I'll wait for the B770 for the upgrade. I agree entirely about shader compilation impact.
@tenpoundfortytwoКүн бұрын
Yeah that should be an interesting card!
@Hugh-Janis-EMPКүн бұрын
I like that for two years they were like Vulkan and gen 12 render is going to be amazing but it under performs dx11 by 10 to 20 fps consistently.
@1aatlasКүн бұрын
I bought a 5600xt in 2020 but today it just doesnt cut it and due to current prices im seriously looking at intel. *stars align*
@vrk661Күн бұрын
I really appreciate your work as it is unique to star citizen community ❤
@tenpoundfortytwoКүн бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement!
@sjoervanderploeg4340Күн бұрын
The "real" minimum is 6Gb, but in general the 10Gb that my 3080 has is not enough and if I artificially limit the reported memory you get some weird things happening with textures if you go below 6144Mb!
@sjoervanderploeg4340Күн бұрын
PCI "BAR"'s are memory barriers set by a device, it is a Base Address Pointer and points to a specified chunk of memory "outside" of system RAM but inside the virtual addressable space so that when you write memory to that region you are actually writing directly to the PCI device.
@TALLA300CforumZКүн бұрын
for 400 $ stil not a bad card
@tenpoundfortytwoКүн бұрын
The B580? It's $250! Very good option if the issues get worked out!