Building a Better Viper Tech, Part 2

[@philiptrommelen6980]

"VT does not have NPAS, so we made one"... gentlemen, I salute you.

[@BadaBingPictures]

The level of dedication is staggering. You’re providing the finest and most informative content on the tube. I would’ve lost my rag if I spent an hour filing that magwell! Your Turkish coffee looked tasty too. It’s nice watching someone else do the slurping. 😂

[@Skrall_]

probably never gonna get a VT, but the content quality and knowledge to gain is too good to miss out on.

[@Leo-gl4lb]

I love how this channels job is literally to consune and test products extensively. It provides awesome info

[@charslapp285]

i honestly just love how this channel has convinced me to get a GBBR. One because its more realistic than the AEG model i was gonna get (i was planning on getting an xm177 AEG but landed with the GBBR VFC M733 and its awesome for the larp). Two because the m733 i got was the first airsoft gun to work properly. And thats very suprising since i have burned upwards of $700 on AEG's with all of them not working after the first mag strait out of the box. Three the m733 is more like an AR styled gun so i can have my dad sometimes help me with stuff on it because he was in the military and his prime for the military was when the m733 and m723 was the best gun for spec ops ( He was SOAR so he worked with CAG and all the cool dudes). So thank you soooooo much Explosive Enterprises for helping me maintain the awesome m733 because this gun will go a long ways for me i think.

[@Booze_Rooster]

Your final assessment of the VT rifles brings a smile to my face. I bought a 2011 model M4A1 around 2012/13 when I was stationed at Fort Campbell. My roommate and I were regulars at the local fields and must've spent half of our monthly pay on GBB airsoft guns- simply just to find reliable/serviceable ones. I started with a KJW M4. V1. Worked flawlessly. Hated the giant thermold looking magazines that were about 50 pounds each, but they never leaked and were the only gas mag I ever used that could live up to the "two full loads of bbs per gas charge" claim. Finally died when the "rubber band" on the nozzle assembly snapped. Couldn't source a replacement. KJW M4A1 V2. No more rubber band. Had a more delicate looking BCG/nozzle assembly with a hokey guide rod. Worked fairly well in terms of shooting but had chronic bolt catch issues. Cleaned out several hardware store spring bins to resolve the issue, by which time the nozzle cracked and....couldn't source a replacement. The V1 nozzle was a different type and couldn't be used for a repair. VFC M4A1- right when they came out. I'm hoping the design has improved in the last decade. Felt way too light and cheap, but shot well when it worked. Had endless bolt catch issues. Eventually just disabled the bolt catch and counted my rounds as best I could. Barely used it in games, just endlessly tinkered with it in my barracks room trying to get it to function reliably. Finally got it to work well and decided to field it. Right at the end of the day, about to smile and proclaim that I had made it work reliably- the bolt carrier exploded. No exaggeration. Exploded. Zinc shrapnel stuck in the plywood of the wall next to me. Cracked the upper receiver right behind the slip ring. Finished the round with my sidearm with the remains of my rifle slung. WE HK416- Felt great but shot high, mags leaked faster than you could use them. Ended up selling it to a guy who was looking for one. Made him a good deal due to the leaks. GHK PDW- the M4 wasn't out yet so I settled for this. What a lovely little gun. Had to solve tons of rattles and a crooked stock but it always shot well and never failed me. The spring loaded aluminum faux short stroke pistons made a perfect "pink, pink, pink" noise every time the bolt returned to battery. The magazines leaked, had sharp edges at the top and as you mentioned- the protruding gas valve plunger that would consistently catch on a magazine pouch and blow off at the worst times. They rusted if they weren't constantly wiped down with oil. That's when I finally splurged on the Viper Tech and I have never held it to the same mental standard as an "airsoft gun". This was at the exact same time I was using my issued M4 almost daily, so the feeling of cheap pot metal WE or the flimsy VFC or the too glossy/gun-too-light magazine-too-heavy feel of the KJW's really just wouldn't cut it. It feels 99% like a real firearm. Has almost complete parts compatibility with real AR parts and has the most substantial recoil impulse of any GBBR I've ever used. Only giveaway is cycling the bolt- but its a compromise I'll take if it means I don't have to carry a sewing machine with a 400 round magazine. So glad you covered this as I have a plethora of GHK and old VFC magazines littering boxes in my storage unit to try out. Fun fact regarding the hammer pin breakage- real steel KNS antirotational pins work perfectly without modification- or just use real steel pins if you're not into the snazz factor.

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

The issue you'll run into with real steel pins on modern VTs is that the VTs have an offset lock ring to secure the hammer pin, with a corresponding offset groove on the pin itself. The real pins have this groove in the middle, so while they'll fit, they won't be properly retained. Anti-rotation pins will work just fine though so that is an option.

[@stewbacca117]

I love the new recessed VFC valves, especially on the FAL, the slightly older PSG-1 mags with the extended striker bar have a habit of dumping their gas into my fast mag pouches if I'm not very conscious of how I reindex them. Doing the lord's work as always guys 🍻

[@royson345]

Best technical airsoft channel there is. Even my aeg buddies love watching your content. Helping grow the GBBR and niche gun love out there!

[@DENDENMUSHIFROMZOU]

The valve cap solution is so simple yet brilliant

[@rowankunz-peek9052]

“It’s not like my anti reversal latch spring just grew legs and walked away” The anti reversal latch spring: 6:50

[@Woistdeingott]

I can confirm ghk mk12 20 round mags work without modification. It is a tight fit, and they need a good slap to insert a loaded mag on a closed bolt (loading full ghk mags into ghk guns should be avoided, so presume the same rule applies here), but they feed and lock as they should. I imagine some filing would loosen the fit without any effects to operation

[@SARSMES]

Thanks to these videos, i finally broke down and bought my first VT last week!

[@thetwixlord]

As always very high quality video with a good amount of memes sprinkled in with the technical discussions!

[@sylithics]

Really need a loadout video 👌

[@RealFakeGuns]

Great video, definitely gonna try some VFC mags for mine. I do have a real lower on mine so mags has always been experimental as they often sit too low for the valve to reach the nozzle. But a little JB weld mod of material in the mag catch hole of the mag should resolve it. VT mags are just too expensive to keep cutting hehe.

[@AntonChou]

If you can get your hands on an ESD ER-15, I highly recommend one. 7075 forged real spec upper and lower, takes VFC spec internals and mags out of the box.

[@EatMyMeatEnterprise]

Id love to see a vfc m4 deep dive or a vfc m4 vs vipertech next

[@Booze_Rooster]

The old ones circa 2012 exploded. 100% of the series of one rifle I used did it. Therefore: conclusive

[@Gallacherboy]

The level of detailed information that you layout in your videos is at a very premium standard. Looking forward to more content, would you only tinker with what you have or would you try other brands? Tokyo Marui? WE Tech - curious what your thoughts would be on the WE AKs compared to the GHK AK video you did

[@ExiLeZH]

would not be the platform for me, but still enjoy watching these videos haha.

[@regimes]

Thanks, this was incredibly helpful on so many levels

[@shaqtus3365]

You know, I was thinking about getting a vfc FAL or some kind of m4 gbbr and then I saw the vipertech video, and then I saw the $1.5k price tag and I realized that $600-$700 for a gbbr isn't too bad.

[@EdgeZXY]

Here's a little suggestion for your next project: XM29 OICW or similar

[@nickegbg]

I hope your airsoft aim is better than your coffee aim ;)

[@gbbhawaii8040]

Do viper techs use the WA system

[@opairsoft8100]

No ish

[@TomiHarley]

Awesome video. what mag holds more gas the Vipertech/ebtch mags of the VFC mags? can VFC mags with stand the pressure of CO2 doing the devils mod?

[@Soapy_Sophie612]

VFC cannot withstand the pressure of liquid CO2. Please do not try to devilmod a VFC mag lol

[@TomiHarley]

@@Soapy_Sophie612 thank you

[@Lt.Chris909]

while these are amazing looking guns, id always argue for the price you pay I would expect them to be pretty much flawless without all the nagging issues which go with them. Oh yeah great reviews btw

[@CastroTheMexican]

Expecting perfection is always going to let you down

[@OtakuGekko]

Awesome video!

[@jeffreybrown]

Awesome info in this video thank you for making an adjustable valve for this system! From what I’ve noticed most people running VTs are doing so above 1 joule. How well does the VT run at < 1 joule? Is the stock hop up effective at applying hop with those lower pressures?

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

We've used VTs extensively in sub-1J indoor arenas, and it performs well. We still stick to heavier BBs but it has no problems with consistency at lower power.

[@TomiHarley]

love that you guys made an npas. the adjustable valve you made, can it handle the devils mod co2 and using 6 oz or 10 oz buffer for a strong recoil.

[@Holanduzo]

Hi explosive, Id like to ask you a couple of questions about VT nozzle, where could I contact with you? thanks

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

You're welcome to ask here, or contact us via Facebook or Shapeways.

[@aaron4820]

Wonder how VT compares to the VFC dnA guns that are native VFC mags, which are full steel, rolled marking, but only CNC receivers (not forged).

[@waterandpower7421]

that sopmod m4 looks familiar 🤔

[@KatonBoy]

I'd like to hear more about the fractography. How can you be sure that heat treatment was bad without taking hardness measurements or microstructure evaluation? Do you by chance have SEM images to share?

[@Saturday_Mystery_Theater]

13:32 After cutting the two steel rods Did you glue it using JB Weld steel epoxy?

[@ydh966]

Hi. adjust valve can use Zparts viper bolt? 🤔

[@kvbm]

Question: Can the VFC magazine conversion method of yours, incorporate on a WA M4 GBBs system?

[@TestASG]

I think I watched all your videos and gbbr is really impressive when you talk about this equipment. However, I wonder about the power and range of such toys. I live in Poland, our outdoor spots have a power limit of 1.9Joules for assault rifles (full auto) My top AEGs have an effective range of 230-260ft using 0.4g BBs at the mentioned 1.7-1.9J. Is there any chance that some GBBR will work within these limits? Regards.

[@thisisbadstuff]

7:40 what's that mesh stuffed inside of that magazine?

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

EB-Tech magazines come with it. We believe it's intended to reduce siphoning by giving liquid propane something to cling to.

[@thisisbadstuff]

@@ExplosiveEnterprises would you say it works? It's something I might try then. I'm on the VFC system and I find that if I fill my VFC magazines for more than around 6 seconds it's spitting out liquid gas. Shame the Western Arms design didn't catch on. Those can even be fired upside down.

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

@@thisisbadstuff It seems to work, though at the cost of reduced volumetric capacity. We've also heard of people stuffing steel wool in magazines to achieve the same effect. Siphoning is primarily a result of over-filling, though, so controlling how much the mags are filled is the best way to avoid it. In the VTs at least, with the mags filled to 22g or less we don't see any siphoning.

[@ArmandD]

I'd love it if you could give a look at the WE m14, as it's got so much potential as a platform

[@NomadikProd]

Sir, I'd like more cat content. There are not enough cats on the internet. Also, tool kit is coming along. Found cool new thing for it.

[@Ragnoz]

At the beginning of the video, I thought it was inefficient. But at the end of the video, I thought it made sense. 🤔

[@A_Rented_Room_In_Heaven]

Can I use it for a 16mm bolt carrier?

[@ExplosiveEnterprises]

Yes, the adjustable valve was designed for 16mm carriers. We believe it will work on 18mm carriers as well but can't confirm.

[@A_Rented_Room_In_Heaven]

@@ExplosiveEnterprises Thank you for your answer I'm learning a lot!😀😀💯

[@erokkuma55]

oops！Nine modify！ I have to do it quickly！

[@simonstokes369]

That is a lot of hassle TBH. Beautiful gun though. Not for the faint hearted.

[@BrianWISCO]

If Viper Tech plans on being a business in the foreseeable future they need to switch over to the VFC V3 GBBR system. With offering from both DnA & ESD that offer the same build quality but run the reliable V3 system I’m not sure why Viper Tech running the old WA system would be attractive given the price point and availability of magazines.

[@opairsoft8100]

VT’s don’t run the WA system….

[@CLODXJ6]

Yawn

[@opairsoft8100]

@@CLODXJ6 ?

[@KarlHensen]

Modify the forged receiver is a waste to be honest...

[@keyboardcommando5146]

$1K+ and you STILL have to go through all of this!? Terrible!

[@CLODXJ6]

At no point was it ever said that any of these mods "have" to be done. Maybe pay attention next time.

[@keyboardcommando5146]

@@CLODXJ6 who does unnecessary performance mods!? Don’t be a fanboy, I’m pretty sure you don’t even own one, like most!

[@CLODXJ6]

@@keyboardcommando5146 I own four VTs. 90% of the airsoft community does "unnecessary" performance mods, just like the car community, or RC community, almost like any hobby ever has "unnecessary" things done in them for the sake of fun. Stop being a denthead and get over your jealousy.

[@HeavyRecoilClub]

We often get questions about why we as HRC don't make videos like you guys do. The answer is easy. Content like this is very informative already. Besides we rather provide news about new products and such. Keep up the outstanding work 🫡