Building a BMW M5 Wagon - S62 V8 M5 Engine Overhaul

Our BMW M5 E39 S62 V8 Engine gets a full overhaul before going into the BMW E39 540i Touring Wagon including a DIY rod bearing how to.
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[@MandyRobWallace]

This series is one of the best lexus advertisements ever.

[@fcorivers]

It will end up having a 2JZGTE... He knows, we know.

[@REAPER3fitty]

@@fcorivers hopefully not

[@aroundomaha]

That’s it! I’m hitting pause and going out to pull the engine out of my wife’s Alltrack. No real reason it just looks cool when you guys do it.

[@jp2246]

Go for it !!

[@aroundomaha]

@@jp2246 I would love to have the 2.0 from my GTI in the Alltrack. Think dealer would notice the 1.8 in the GTI at trade in time?

[@adamhonda98]

Make you have a service manual with you if you is your 1st time

[@Creesic]

Those bearings aren't the worst, but the bottom line is that they were still worn. You've spent more time and effort changing other parts on it, so I hope you feel that it was well worth it. You have nothing to worry about now.

[@rtsoccerplayer]

BMW episodes stress me out, then the Lexus episodes soothes my mind lol

[@bushwhacker5385]

I would rather stress my head with 10 JDM engine than a german engine..🤣

[@Itsuki491]

True thing

[@AmirPomen]

Ikr 🤣🤣🤣

[@garrettgiuffre7298]

what lexus? haha jk i love the LS430. pinnacle of lexus

[@transamericanlife]

Owning a Lexus after owning a BMW is bliss.

[@fcpeuro]

It's a BMW... expect allllll the things 😂

[@fcorivers]

You, guys, in the background laughing like Dr. Evil...

[@gustavocasas8449]

my e46 is running like a champ thanks to you guys !

[@Cepera540]

FCP if it wasn't for us BMW guys you wouldn't have been growing :)

[@ALittleBitOfGay]

@@Cepera540 us Volvo guys are also doing our part! ;)

[@luisgarcia7096]

by now it’s a given. if speed academy gets a bmw engine, rod bearings are getting replaced

[@Bob-ir4lr]

Pretty much any engine at all, seems like they're always needing a top to bottom rebuild

[@CrossWindsPat]

BMW motors seem to have rod bearing issues in general.

[@francispowell1811]

@@CrossWindsPat, especially M cars.

[@tomtom255]

"6k Sports sedan challenge" *actual cost will be closer to 20k not including labor

[@garrettgiuffre7298]

lol! Seriously

[@angeldelgado3365]

And not to mention he's doing a wagon not a sedan...

[@elpepito957]

Sreten / m539 restorations would not approuve the use of non oem parts ! 🤣

[@antaris8111]

Cooooming up

[@SouthSideSlider]

BMWs tend to have a distinctive whining sound typical from there owners. I expect the lexus to have a distinctive whine soon aswell except from under the hood. #teamlexus

[@speedacademydave]

digital high five! ✋😆

[@temio.463]

I’m a bimmer guy but this was hilarious

[@FrldyZX87]

Had to chuckle about the difference of the last two videos uploaded. Lexus gets trunk struts, actuators, console lid worked on while the BMW has in-depth engine overhaul. Such a difference haha. Love the content and can't wait to see the cars when they're done!

[@JMLueckeA7X]

To be fair, we haven't seen if the 430 is gonna need anything, especially once it gets a supercharger. Their transmissions aren't especially strong so they may need to beef some stuff up depending on how much power they're gonna make.

[@WorkinDuck]

This series is a mess bit I love it :D Sport sedan battle, but there is only one sport sedan AND this car gets scrapped and they build a wagon instead

[@FrldyZX87]

@@JMLueckeA7X Oh yeah, for sure. If that happens, well, more content for us :)

[@gavinr9107]

With all due respect to Lexus the 3UZFE is arguably one of the most reliable engines ever made.

[@JMLueckeA7X]

@@gavinr9107 Well yeah that's pretty well documented at this point lol.

[@wowthtsgood]

"Should we have expected this", mates, and yes, you should have lol. This from someone who loves all things BMW.

[@fcorivers]

Your pic shows next to masochist in the dictionary?

[@armenbadeer1045]

Those bearings looked like EJ25 bearings with 11 miles on them 🔥😀

[@BarbWaltersMusic]

lmao

[@phiillzzz807]

Dang dude this hurt my feelings ahahah.. blew my ej with a massive rod knock.. disassembled the whole engine only to find out 1 of the bearings completely shattered to tiny bits... expected after 260k kms (160k miles) and 20lbs of boosting every single day.. mechanic said it probably starved from oil during cornerings as the oil would oil slush up on one side of the pan.. oh well.. got a new one in there with upgraded rods and pistons, oil pan with an oil catch basket so it doesnt move around and upgraded oil pump+cooler.. all good now and running at 24psi @ 415whp

[@bimmerman88]

The block is alusil compound, has different rate of corrosion than the oil pan/timingcase and heads.

[@idokwatcher2062]

Isn't alusil only sprayed on cylinder walls?

[@simontist]

@@idokwatcher2062 that's Nikasil. Alusil is the material of the block, a blend of aluminum and silicon. This material, when chemically etched (as is done to the cylinder bores), has a very hard and slightly porous surface (good for maintaining a film of oil and resisting wear).

[@MyloShwayze]

That main seal removal being sped up in a timelapse and still taking long with multiple different tools at different angles is PEAK BMW engineering. I was cracking up.

[@austinwrighteous]

This series has been awesome. I love the contrast of chill Dave with the VIP lexus, and pete having to perform open heart surgery on this nightmare. Keep it up!

[@trdric]

I am a reliability engineer and oil analysis are always subjective if not done frequently. Engines are usually difficult to diagnosis with these because the oil is frequently changed. In your case maybe 3 years ago the copper content was higher but we can''t confirm. This is why having a trend of oil analysis is good but i understand thats it not cheap. In the manufacturing industries we will usually use it to confirm a problem seen by something else (vibration analysis usually). These types of bearing are not even picked up by vibration analysis anyway so the best way is always to inspect them visually. It is a labor intensive job but its cheaper than running them until they trash the engine. Good job looking it up ! Hoping the sc LS will be able to keep up :P Toyota biased here

[@graphitedak04]

I get a Blackstone oil analysis performed each oil change. However after seeing those S65 rod bearings bearings and the corresponding oil report I was having second thoughts about continuing to get them. Your comment gives me some piece of mind about still utilizing the analysis but focusing more on trends than a singular report.

[@JnC445]

"Holyyy Smokes??" Ahhaa we finally know ChrisFix's identity.

[@computiNATEor]

Nah. I have a photo of him from a car show back in 2015. 😆

[@actionjackson891]

"We heard you guys you want smaller projects" proceeded to wagon swap an M5. I love watching you crazy dudes

[@johnu808]

I was thinking the same thing! My favorite channel for sure 😂

[@ajgonzalez5109]

You guys should get in touch with M539 Restorations, that dude is *killing it* with his BMW restos.

[@danielstoscup755]

This series is awesome, guys. I love both cars and how you each took a different approach. I’m also making sure to watch the ads and stay to the very end.

[@carlmcrobcustomgoldsmith11]

This is what I’m here to see.. a couple of friends working on cars that need some attention...every obstacle you encounter increases the value of your content... thanks for taking the time and sharing.

[@garrettgiuffre7298]

idk... he has a lexus.... guest buikder m539 resto?.

[@streetK4]

Favorite videos guys i own LS430 but dream car is and always was E39 M5 and to do wagon swap would just insane. Life goals. Goes to my bucket list 🪣

[@chadlegault9993]

I would buy a SA branded apron like what you guys are wearing in the vid :)

[@sanchoMDB]

When that thing goes back in, you have to give us some sound clips without the air box cover! It’s only responsible to hear those itbs.

[@alw968]

Great video, S62 is a race engine for the street,I don't understand have fcp euro make money, i hope they will be in business in years to come.

[@devn3818]

bmw owners selling their cars: “excellent condition, small maintenance needed”

[@d1sturb3d119]

While it spits tiny sparkles out its exhaust. Meanwhile on the Lexus video, you have these folks claiming Lexus isn't as reliable, because an actuator went out... Cool cool...

[@devn3818]

@@d1sturb3d119 those sparkles are a feature not a defect tho! duh 🙄

[@d1sturb3d119]

@@devn3818 sprinkle oneself with it before inevitably walking into the gentleman's club one either is a patron of, or one is employed at, highlighting the typical lifecycle of the car and ownership experience through the years 😂

[@devn3818]

@@d1sturb3d119 since beamers seem to not have turn signals they substitute the clicking sound of the turn signal with the clicking sound of their bearings

[@d1sturb3d119]

@@devn3818 ROFL okay I can't top that one! That was good!

[@reetuh]

I thiiinnk the block is so clean because its alusil vs regular aluminum for the heads and oilpan.

[@MrDannyd9]

23:00 by looking at the rust on the flywheel; it has been leaking.

[@Gravstein]

Oil and filters are cheap, idkn why people run there engines in to the gound. Look how dark the engine is inside, its down to way to long intervals.

[@aaronhowe3523]

I'd have been tempted to check the mains while I was in there even if they aren't a weak point in that engine.

[@ANDERZENAMG]

As an AMG guy, seeing some of the pieces of this engine and how well they are designed, makes me appreciate it and forgive rod bearings a little more. On the contrary, some of the design is terrible... Still an M113 guy, but man, wish we got those headers and ITB intake from factory back then!

[@SHADOWW18]

Those bearings show alot of detonation, not worn from lack of oil lubricity or oil starvation, but the fact they're worn at around the 11-12 o'clock position shows theyve been slamming into the crankshaft on the compression stroke ever so slightly thats normal to see on an engine with violent combustion taking place thanks to detonation usually caused with firing the ignition that much to early ie spicy tuning even from factory

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

As if the engine doesnt have knock detection, dont think your explantion is correct

[@SHADOWW18]

@@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος Knock protection wont prevent an engine from knocking, it minimises it.

[@SHADOWW18]

Also knock sensors arent all that great at detecting knock quite frankly. Ive done many a data log on engines with zero knock registered but peppering all over the spark plugs indicating knock. Knock sensors are bolted to the outside of most engines. Spark plugs are right there in combustion chamber where its all happening. I'll take my eyes and what physics are telling me over what a computer says all day everyday.

[@speedacademy]

This is normal wear on the uppers for bmws. Have a look around and you will see that is the wear pattern, not from detonation.

[@hahaha12345678993]

and this episode and many others like it is why i'll never buy a used BMW

[@tannerpowell6525]

New bmws are why I wont buy new ones either.

[@jamest5149]

There was an issue with the Nikasil bores pitting on early cars so might be a factory replacement block

[@n.shiina8798]

i thought they moved to alusil since late prod M60?

[@alexrosado3890]

Yeah that was e34 v8s

[@AndresGarcia-wj3dl]

I had the same oil analysis results with my E90 M3's S65 engine. Blackstone results came back normal but I replaced the bearings anyway. They were on their last legs.

[@vosedon]

How many miles?

[@mickl8212]

What a poor design. Rod bearings should be in there for the life of the engine.

[@gallardo20000]

bmw: best I can do is 50k miles. take it or leave it.

[@deano_s2k]

You gotta understand, these cars we're engineered on Pentium 2's with windows 98. Think about that.

[@d1sturb3d119]

@@deano_s2k And the Lexus's were engineered with future tech? My 92 SC400 was designed on a piece of paper so I suppose that says a lot too.

[@mickl8212]

@@deano_s2k says to me the designers got their sums wrong. It is possible to make a performance engine that doesn't have to be split to replace major engine components in such a short time. But then again, it only has to last the warranty period, then it's someone elses problem right?

[@davej.6290]

The block usually looks different because its a different type of alloy. Had the same with some other engines

[@108media4]

Man that motors internals look dirty. Looks like it had extended oil changes all its life

[@joannaatkins822]

Yup, I'd certainly be doing lots of early oil changes every 3000 miles for the next 12k or 15k, with a flush to begin with. He'll have the engine apart soon enough if this keeps up and it'll be much prettier to look at then after a year plus of TLC

[@pauldybro7636]

This video validates my wise decision to vow to never own a BMW.

[@tomjones5860]

My guess... 20k of chill commuter miles left on those bearings. About 1,000mile performance miles. The answer to 1984 is 1776

[@Peachan123]

I find myself wondering, if the rod bearings look like that, what do the main bearings look like?

[@francispowell1811]

I was wondering why he didn't just check them since he was there.

[@jmg9141]

My S62 block has the same look. I think it just resists corrosion much better than the surrounding materials.

[@jnick5358]

BMW: Here for a good time, not a long time.

[@lander917]

I love how the Toyota is just relaxing there lol

[@EricJohnson-uy3jk]

“Should we have”?

[@RadBuilds]

Haha how ironic you guys are doing this job! We completed the same job and then some with changing the main bearings as well on a S65 BMW engine so definitely can understand the stress associated with the job. Currently building a supercharged S65 1M in Ontario as well if you want to check it out!

[@rcfanatic123]

Subbed! Cool build

[@jiminEcricket]

For the flywheel removal I purchased a cheap set of deep Allen sockets from harbor freight...and ground down the sides of the proper size until it fit through the holes..didn't take much....and no need to buy the special tool..

[@eriqrosado3337]

Priceless! The engine has more fluids then a bed in a hore house... 😳😷🤮🙄🤢🤮😷😂😂👍🏽 great job guys. Keep it up. Thank you for the promo code for fcpeuro late. Lol. Hopefully I can use it on my next purchase. 🙏🏽 thank you and fcpeuro

[@artm5583]

It amazing me how bmw puts the absolute worst Fing gaskets on these cars. My 550i with 80k miles leaks more than LS engines with 300k miles. Literally all the gaskets fail before 120k miles.

[@augustortiz]

BMW build an engine, sell as much of them as possible and then assess if the design is reliable. It is insane how they haven’t been sued dry for creating such time bombs. Coming from an E90 M3 owner who casually also needs a bearing job..

[@mrnicktoyou]

What caused the bearings to wear like that? Aren't the new ones just going to wear the same way? You haven't really solved the problem. I'm no expert but I would re-bore the block and machine the crankshaft, etc before putting it back together again. This might be the EVO all over again.

[@speedacademy]

BMW designed them like that haha. They are a wear item and need to be serviced much like a clutch.

[@tyburcjusz]

Woah, I've heard about FCP guarantee in other big YT channels, but really? You can send them back used motor oil??? How come it makes sense $$$ for them? Or maybe they hope most of the customers will be YT projects, who flips cars like crazy and will never use the guarantee 🤔 🙄?

[@sydneyNemesis101]

Had a friend with an e60 m5 and he kept pouring sooo much money, and when the smog and rod bearings failed he called it quits, but far out nothing sounds better like it

[@peterzeboroff7448]

It would have been very nice for you to have actually shown the entire rebuild and all the steps involved since showing it when all the internal work is already finished and only showing you putting in the last few screws is not why I like these type of teardown and rebuild videos.

[@Redshift42]

Had never needed a torque angle gauge before. Went to Princess Auto this morning and saw a Gearwrench torgue angle gauge in surplus section. I now own a torque angle gauge.

[@shawnstout8589]

The bearings on mine went at 195k miles... changed them with the engine in the car over a weekend. About a $1000 job. But yea, the “while you’re in there” can get really expensive.

[@jrodz808]

How did you know they went out? What were the symptoms?

[@shawnstout8589]

@@jrodz808 tapping sound, oil had Metallic glitter like substance.

[@feelthatfeelthat]

Preventative maintenance is the difference to long term marriage or divorce. Seriously it would cost you much less to change everything as opposed to waiting for a failure where you could potentially lose the love for the car and take a loss on selling it as is.

[@yugo4576]

Great work guys! This episode is exacly why I sold my E39 M5. I loved it and enjoyed it but I'm simply done with BMW V8. I "downgraded" to S52 engine (I've put it in my E39 528 along with 5 speed manual). Yes, I've lost bunch of HP and torque but working on inline 6 is such a joy and it's fast enough for me. With just completed custom exhaust (the whole system) I'm at around 3500 lbs which makes my E39 500 lbs lighter than M5 and it has real steering, lol.

[@cocoyc495]

Yeah...When I had a BMW, I was getting parts from FCP euro all the time too.

[@MJ-nn1ox]

Awful lot of work to bring the BMW(s) up to the standard of the Lexus

[@TsunamiSephi]

The 6k challenge has been one of my favorite series in recent times. You're satiating my love for fast wagons and VIP cruisers. I want one now, dammit!

[@justinrobertson5493]

The oil analysis just shows that the bearings are still okay and would tell you when they've worn through the copper. Not the end all be all on engine health but will definitely tell you when it's time for a rebuild.

[@chrisbutterfield8743]

Please tell me that you at least checked the rear main seal as long as the flywheel is off....

[@vb6110]

Hey guys. I'm enjoying the series! I bought my e39 M5 a year ago and the rod bearings were done on it with about 160k on the clock and they look similar in wear. For what it,s worth the BMW specialty tech mentioned that they were not bad.

[@BreakStuffClub]

Mine has 161k on it and they are still original, fingers crossed.

[@villekokkonen1841]

Uhm.. Is the timing chain guides been done in this engine already? if not, i would consider it, when you have the block out of the car.

[@vosedon]

This is the post I want them to acknowledge. Rod bearing are a must at this mileage but timing chains guides can go as early as 100k. I want to see the diy on those. There is literally no video on that on the internet.

[@fpb3rd]

@@vosedon there are videos of M62B44TU guides, Nathan's bmw workshop did one in his kitchen and there are a few others I used to warm up before doing mine. It would be cool to see how difficult timing the double vanos would be, I'm also surprised Pete is not tackling them

[@vosedon]

@@fpb3rdM62tu been there done that. I'm fully aware of the M62tu rebuild with Nathan DIY but have you checked out the series of videos from Auto Dr DIY? Check that engine off the list. I want to see a diy for the S62 man.

[@chrisej5987]

DP grilling PT about his BMW the the very end 🤣

[@Kroberter]

Perfect timing on the bearing repair. Any longer and a knock would develop eventually pumping shavings throughout the engine and the repairs would have been much more extensive. Most of the bearings I see (in the commercial diesel industry) once the soft metal/polymer layers disappear the bearings have a handful of hours at full load before everything comes apart.

[@jrtiura]

Love the content. That fake M5 wagon looks so cool. Actually the Lexus does too! You guys make me feel like I could start a project car tomorrow.

[@speedy58859]

BMW bearing work until they don’t.

[@jamest5149]

Normal wear- if you warm the engine and change the oil regularly they would last for a long time.

[@Chad.D]

YESSS lets fire alll the jdm bullets DP👌

[@speedacademydave]

Gotta get my cheap shots in while I can! 😆

[@ndinno1]

Title gore

[@udontseemebutiseeyou]

Learning just how difficult German cars can be relative to their Japanese counterparts is a right of passage for any DIY mechanic

[@ahoneyman]

Mitsubishi's are a pig to work on. The plugs and fasteners are just cheap quality and a few always either break or strip out. Love the 4G63 fundamentally for it's strength and tunability. Hate the connectors that randomly break

[@ahoneyman]

Mitsubishi's are a pig to work on. The plugs and fasteners are just cheap quality and a few always either break or strip out. Love the 4G63 fundamentally for it's strength and tunability. Hate the connectors that randomly break

[@aaronhall7740]

It's all relative just different processes and methods to working on them. I've loved doing stuff in my vw it's a dream compared to the Subaru in the garage

[@BIGSMOKE-bl2lq]

@@ahoneyman iv worked on a few mistys they can be pricks i must agree not as bad as working on bmws thow i fucking hate them the engineers at bmw should be strung up ima just go away and quietly work on hondas lol nice and easy

[@joannaatkins822]

Quick question, did you do the valve stem seals? I thought BMW V8's had an issue with those, or am I thinking about the wrong engine? I'm really loving this latest BMW M5 Wagon and Lexus LS content, thank you both for this magnificent series :)

[@michu6777]

The BMW V8 with the valve stem seal issues was the N62 from 2002-2010. It was the evolution of the M62 engine that the S62 in the video is based on.

[@joannaatkins822]

@@michu6777 thank you for clarifying the issue, that's very helpful and I appreciate it

[@ccbz7851]

1. I love how real your guys are... leads to well informed viewers! Thank you... 2. I hope a BMW engineer can see this and help explain as to why they designed their engines this way! lol

[@xozindustries7451]

If BMW motors are so great why do they eat bearings? Can you change the oil pump or pressure spring so they don’t eat themselves alive? Why not use an aftermarket bearing? Seems like the stock ones don’t last. Did you check any of the mains?

[@IntegraDIY]

That’s going to be a kick ass engine with the refresh. Should’ve measured the bearings before putting assembly lube

[@therealboofighter]

18:50 is that new water pump in your future? Looks like a bit of fluid from the pump.

[@speedacademy]

Negative, leaking from the coolant pipe above it down onto the pump

[@therealboofighter]

@@speedacademy ok, that’s good to know. Loving the series.

[@DIGPLatinodriftking1]

Dave and PT giving eachother playful jabs is always great to watch, but what I really admire is their respect for eachother. Cheers fellas cant wait to see the results of the builds!

[@Pats-Shed]

When you change rod bearings, why not check the crank bearings and thrust bearings?

[@jpwilliams5264]

Loving the bmw content! I would love to see you guys pick up a 135i for a track project. Amazing bang for the buck.

[@frozenpete788]

This is something I didn't do when I was a younger mechanic, but now, man I prefer spending (and not wasting I guarantee you) a few minutes chasing threads, cleaning, blowing with air, brake cleaner, brushing, triple checking, clean the bolts I'm reusing that are exposed to dirt etc, it makes you life much easier. And when you assemble everything back, you can make the difference between "it must be crap somewhere" vs "I'm sure I'm pulling the threads right now". About the bearings it's hard to tell, it's a matter of clearance, whether you race it or dialy it, long vs short trips, very cold start or not etc. Those bearings could have done more with good oil, relaxed driving and longer trips with nice oil temp I'd say. Of course in the long term it could have been worse and risking damaging the crank isn't worth it anyway

[@quentinlewis]

Great Work Guys!!!! Thanks for showing the infamous rod bearing change!!! Not such a scary Monster Fix after all, after the 15 hour dismantle job , just to get to them. Minus all that great work Thanks

[@Zoltec-q1g]

I don‘t think I could trust an oil analysis on an engine that is known to have bearing issues.

[@Ponykotze]

What about the crank bearings?

[@Vcali-cobraV]

Guys!!!! That time lapse tho!! So legit, so entertaining!

[@michaelgleason4791]

I love how changing bearings turns into replacing everything "while we're in here." The bane of my life, lmao.

[@1one3_Racing]

This is why you do regular oil analysis. Those bearings still have life in them but once you hit the soft layer they will wear super fast. Oil analysis will show critical level.

[@RayBen555]

For anyone that wants to see this engine in max action, check out Roy's Gumball video "The Battle of Rome". Always a classic.

[@sl67350]

From someone that started down this path a couple years ago, it’s great to see another M5 Touring build. When I did my rod bearings they looked fine but had already purchased all the bits so...I typically purchase everything from FCP but ECS offered WPC treated bearings. I spring for those. As for your hassle with the S62 on the engine stand, that’s too relatable! From trusting 4 bolts, rotating it and then things getting in the way. Great job and Paul is a great guy to help out as well. He’s helped me over the years.

[@Ola_Bjorsvik]

How’s the WPC treated bearing compared to stock?

[@sl67350]

@@Ola_Bjorsvik check out some videos here on KZbin. The simplified description is, they are treated using a process which reduces friction be being coated which wears off. It’s amazing to see the metals they treat and the results they have. You can use it on gears, transmissions, etc.

[@Ola_Bjorsvik]

@@sl67350 wow.. that’s interesting. Do you know if it’s really expensive?

[@MrMiggoH]

Life time warranty for everything at FCP Euro rather than reassuring me makes me think somethings fishy about them.

[@dakotarodgers9988]

Guess I’ll get up and watch! So pumped for this. Trying to get my own 2001 5 series wagon soon!

[@DannysGarage]

Mmm, I have fond memories of doing this to my E39 M5 in my garage back in the day. I bought it and the rod bearings were completely trashed so I did the job on my back on jack stands (not fun!). It turned out just fine and I had a great time with the M5 afterwards, those were the golden days.

[@vosedon]

Doing that job on the floor. Your a mad man. Should they consider the timing guides while it's out of the car?

[@christophers.4007]

bmw (un)reliability lol

[@pedrorodrigueziii4859]

2020 Consumer Report listed BMW as the WORST brand for 5-10 year cost to own. Now I can see why. What a stupidly designed engine. Great performance but it's prone to massive leaks and suffers from lackluster quality seals/gaskets? No thanks!

[@brownah]

Can't believe he had a screwdriver there to pry out the bearings 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ Y'all need to watch M539 Restorations do his S65 rod bearings

[@Killerconceptz]

More fluids than a bed in a whores house 😃😂🤣😄😆😁🤣😂😃😄 After watching you guys work on bmw’s I never want to touch one period, too many weird designs.

[@dominiquegarcia9218]

Bro you can’t compare a bmw engine > Toyota engine..... BMW “S” engines are literally detuned race engines.. turner motorsports campaigned the S62 for years after the S65 came out because it was that much better... don’t be cheap $60 flywheel socket bro that’s nothing it’s a bmw

[@02lucy666]

I might grew up with bmw's, and i still love them, but i grew a love to toyotas, especially when i see how overly complicated bmws are. In terms of money spent, the LS probably will be the winner here! also, in case you havent done the race yet (some channels tend to pre-record these kind of "challenges"), there are shifting-kits available for these Auto-Transmissions, and fairly cheap, to have it shift faster, and harder. Dave might wanna consider in doing that when hes doing the power mods, and perhaps an AT trans flush as well, while hes at it. HOWEVER: Both cars are great! love the touring idea! missed opportunity from bmw!