Building a sword forge from a propane tank

[@rphall1983]

I loved that " I don't know cause I threw it away"

[@CIA_Alien]

Somewhere along the line an old Marine watched this video and lost his mind when you destroyed perfectly edible crayons. Keep up the great work. -Dave

[@drycreek3204]

Nice creek flowin by your new house! I'd love to have a clean rocky creek close by my house. As usual, a great video from a good humble guy!

[@andrewvogel5344]

Can we take a minute to appreciate his response to people about grinding the handle off the tank and the response to wear his guard is for the grinder his answer was literally exactly how I feel I use a grinder all day at work and I never have a guard on it because I am competent enough and have used a grinder for so many years that I don't need a guard on it I've used it so much that it feels like an extension of my hand. He is a hundred percent accurate when he said if you can't cut the handle off without cutting into the tank you have no business having a grinder.

[@christopherwerner1137]

I'd say we should start a drinking game where we do a shot when you say "Nothin' to it really.", but I don't want to be responsible for killing someone.

[@stevegrillot]

beat me to it

[@jrocks1971]

Ha-haaa! 😄🤘🏼

[@handmadeinportland4125]

T-shirt idea!

[@lipinskirl]

Responsibility… Nothing to it really

[@AndrewMerrick]

That angle grinder body looked like it came right off the set of an original Star Wars movie. Approved!

[@Paulster2]

"Serviceable" ... dead give away you served. Thank you for that! (First time viewer.)

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Nice build, John! I’m about to start a similar build. My ribbon burner just took a crap so I figure I’ll make a whole new forge. 👍

[@rodgerklindt3165]

Great project! Your tool intro had me laughing.

[@johnjude2685]

Drinking straws can replace your carryon with out the messy drilling, Also had you left on part of the tanks handle tying to the tree would be easier, But just tiny bits to help. Dang excellent built Sir ,I built one about 3 years and my refractory failed so I'll be rebuilding me a new one, So glad you are researching me.. Thanks again I need your help so keep teaching Sir

[@Afisch00]

im glad someone else uses the phrase fabricobbled.

[@mdfaver]

where is your guard? "i dont know because I threw it away" - as a welder/fabricator, i love this.

[@thefarfiles]

Good seeing you again John. Shop is looking good.

[@MrFlockhammer]

Man you hit it on the head with the grinder and handle and all that. Know your skill set and take your own risks. Love the videos!

[@arsumbris6392]

I took a shot every time you said "nothin' to it really". Fun drinking game.

[@tjohnson4062]

Haha, if you've ever seen the movie "The Lady killers" one of the crew is always responding with "easiest thing in the world" when asked to do soomething. It kept hitting me me everytime you said "nothing to it really". That was hilarious.

[@Little_River_Forge]

This along with your tips have pushed me to build one hopefully I’ll have it all set up soon. It super excited to finally have a bigger forge.

[@Freeman-Dl70]

I built a forge out of the same kind of tank. Now, I'm building a 10 inch ribbon burner like you made on video. Good to know i can use the forge for the original purpose

[@OldHickoryForge]

@@Freeman-Dl70 I actually made a 14" burner for this forge.

[@Freeman-Dl70]

@@OldHickoryForge that makes me wish I would have done the same.

[@jameshall3482]

Hey that looks like a good trout stream!

[@danbailey5503]

One day I'll make a ribbon burner. Great build good job bud.

[@SchysCraftCo.]

John very nice build on this forge build. Hopefully you get great use out of it for many years to come my friend. Can't wait to see more videos soon John. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend John. Forge on. Weld on. Fab on. Keep Making. God bless.

[@Tackleb3rry]

Awesome work, John!!

[@paulhedman7387]

Interesting stuff, I just acquired a one burner forge a week ago so when I get some time I will give blacksmithing a try. I need to do some more learning first. I have plenty of experience welding/fabricating.

[@TCMW2020]

I’ve been looking for a good video explaining this type of forge build and this is it. I’ve been slowly building a slightly smaller version of this.

[@andystoolbox]

I think it looks great, could not expect better from myself. Great job.

[@prairieironandleather]

My next forge build might have to a ribbon similar to this. Keep up the no bs videos. 👍

[@americanpatriot2979]

Thanks for sharing this video with us. Nice lookin forge.

[@Enigma-Sapiens]

Great video and forge build John, thank you!

[@kindredspiritzz66]

Pretty good video. I learned a few things. I have a water heater I'm going to maybe try making into a forge and will use some of your ideas

[@erikcourtney1834]

That’s almost identical to my daily forge. Same size and build except I put a thick coat of itc100 over the refractory and my burner is on the side sitting at a slight angle. Gets a good swirling motion inside. Zero hot spots. These round forges with ribbon burners work fantastically

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Nice forge built. Love it.

[@misterpolytech]

"Where's the guard for that Grinder?" "I don't know, cuz I threw it away..." Exactly what I do, also.

[@SonoraSlinger]

Haha John man. You're in a mood today! But I like it. Awesome build and thank you kindly sir

[@neilwalker3204]

"Where's the cover for that grinder? - I don't know, I threw it away" ha ha ha ha ha

[@ThecrazyScotsman]

Awesome job, working in the factory that more than likely builds this tank and others I know exactly how tight the valves can be, this is something I plan on doing some day once I have the property to do so. Great walk through

[@42icee]

Awesome and agreed the youtube trollers always want to say something....so yep go back to metal shop!! Nice build!!! Thanks for posting

[@josecontreras4379]

You are working from experience something they may not know about.

[@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164]

Some people are obsessed with safety, if you're an experienced worker, you know what can be done safely and effectively without issues.

[@TheWolfster001]

For my forge when I built, After the refractory I placed Firebrick on the bottom & both side's, it heats up pretty quick, and the outside is always cool to the touch, I did go fairly thick. The bottom is almost 8 inches and sides are almost 6 inches (counting the brick) my firebrick is a hair over an inch thick.. I also have a removable 2" x 4" steel tube I use to heat treat knives & swords.. I get you on heavy, LOL.. I built it a few years back and it takes a couple people (strong) to move it.. Thank you for sharing..

[@cankeco]

i can't show you, but i greased the crayons with Vaseline and just used forced air from my compressor and blew them out. I used rapidset mortar mix with also get warm as it cures, so that helped too. great videos, can't wait for the next one!

[@TheKoonass31]

HAHAHAHAHAHA Go back to metal shop, HAHAHAHAHAH. Freaking awesome John out here being savage. Great build bud.

[@jffqnn]

I'm learning a lot from your videos and thinking about making a smaller (due to tank size) forge using the techniques seen in this video. Again, Thank You for Your Videos!!

[@jamesbarisitz4794]

Great build. The tank is a perfect shell for the furnace. Sliding doors, or the good old brick?✌

[@OldHickoryForge]

This one I'm always gonna be passing long blades through so I don't plan on blocking off the back

[@wrangler065]

20 yrs ago i learned to purge a propane tank, pour in a couple cups of baking soda with the water and let sit a couple days, propane actually absorbs into metal( those old 200gal house tanks that are 15 yrs old will still have propane in metal after empty for yrs)..just a tip..but the newer small camper style 20-30 gal tanks will probly purge with just water..bacin soda neutralizes the propane

[@White_devil1980]

Great job making the forge 😊🥳 and I know people who make forges usually have the ribbon burner off set so the flames are going around the forge instead of coming straight down but each to there own for the purpose of the forge they are using it for 👍

[@romantressler4480]

My last ribbion burner instead of crayons I used plastic straws. The refractory doesn't stick to the straws and they just slide right out.

[@Refox_foxfox]

a lot of safety equipment and measures was used in this video OSHA definitely.. approves

[@davidlong3696]

Ok, if building one of these to use for more than just heat treatment,what should be done differently?

[@johnlovett8341]

Cool. Nice work. I take the valve off before I cut the valve guards off. Not terribly hard to do but either way works. My only weird peeve is I like the grinder guard when cutting just like I like eye protection & seat belts. Granted, if you break the wheel you did something wrong, but it'll happen eventually in many shops. Nice nit to have cutting wheel bits in your belly. Big bad forge.

[@williamchase5698]

Nice hoodie!

[@frrapp2366]

could you use a small hot water heater tank??? when i was younger i worked at a small foundry that used a spin casting system 4 ft "chills" molds that we cast hard surface welding rods and inserts for ag and industrial equipment (asphalt mixers ect.) but i never was around when they relined and coated the foundry !! cool vid well actually HOT ONE

[@billwoehl3051]

Rutland has a 2200°F castable refractory that has tiny fibers to help it hold together, no idea what others have, only used refractory cement for the rocket mass heater so far.

[@OldHickoryForge]

Refractory in a forge needs to be rated for 3,000

[@romantressler4480]

Great video!

[@prairieironandleather]

When water turns to steam it expands in volume 1700x so driving it out slow to avoid spalling is a good idea 👍

[@douglaswoodard3412]

try drinking straws instead of crayons just spray them with the same release and they should pull out pretty easy

[@missionforge6256]

Good stuff my man.

[@sdm031]

I'm curious who taught you the phrase "nothing to it, really"?

[@anthonyluc389]

Great video mate. Was wondering how long you could make the burner head before it's no longer efficient. Will be upgrading my venturi to this in the coming weeks. Cheers

[@bradleyholcombe6114]

Zero fucks given a out the grinder. I love it.

[@Anderson-HandForged]

any chance you could show how to plumb a ribbon burner forge? thanks great video john Mark 👍👍

[@Brick_dont_hit_back]

Sorry what is this cement like compound?

[@ryanblystone5153]

Thank you

[@peltiereric6497]

Dude I like your style with regards to people griping about the grinder but us army guys tend to have similar attitudes. I will say though cutting off the handle on that tank was likely a mistake because it makes access to the valve easier but removing it harder because with the handle intact you can ratchet strap it to a tree so the tank starts to spin as you crank on the valve but the ratchet strap through the handle keeps it from spinning so you can use the crescent wrench and a pipe as a cheater bar to really crank on it to bust that valve loose

[@rustdustguts424]

2:26 *safety squints engaged*

[@Billthebott]

very nice!

[@jdcole2112]

What are you using for your forced air? Whats the setup ?

[@multicoloredwiz]

damn must have felt so good when that bad boy came online!!! YEAHH!!

[@josephblack6957]

Awesome!

[@jrocks1971]

GREAT responses to the YouToob safety nazis. “Where is the guard for that grinder?” “I dunno - I threw it away.” 😄🤣🤘🏼 I do the exact same thing because it gives you a lot more versatility with the tool, but you really do have to make sure you have really good eye protection. I mostly wear my full face grinding shield nowadays when I use it that way. Twice now, I have had slivers of razor-sharp steel bounce in behind my safety glasses and stick me in the eyeball. Those ER visits get old, quick.

[@SiliconeSword]

I'm looking at building a new forge and I'm thinking about making one that's a welded box, about 24X15X15. For the bottom I'm planning on doing a layer of those soft bricks for the base with a layer of thin hard bricks on top to deal with wear and flux. For the sides I and top I plan on 3 layers of Kaowool with some satanite to make it nice and hard. I'm curious about what would help my forge be more efficient though, since I don't want to use too much gas since I'd rather forge longer for the same price. Also thinking about running 2 or 3 burners, not sure how many, but I want to be able to shut off half of the forge with a brick or something, and shut one of the burners for when I do small stuff, since I don't have enough space to have multiple forges. Keep it up, sick channel.

[@jrocks1971]

The hard fire bricks are a heat sink that will waste gas. You are better off using blanket liner all around, rigidizing each layer in turn with colloidal silica rigidizer, flame curing the rigidizer gently, next layer of wool, rigidize that, flame cure it, then apply Kastolite 30 over that in a ~1/4” layer, high humidity “trashbag cure” it overnight, then slowly flame cure it. Kastolite 30 is very flux resistant, and doesn’t waste as much heat as a fire brick, so that’s a pretty ideal material to use for the bottom of the Forge. if you want to get properly fancy, finish the final layer over the Kastolite with Plistix 900F, which is a high alumina infrared reflective coating that will achieve higher temperatures, quicker, saving you time and fuel. That stuff bakes on like a ceramic coating and is highly flux resistant. You can also make sacrificial trays and plates to segregate the flux from your liner.

[@esnyd]

Hope Eric's hand recovered from that scale. Looked like a 3rd degree

[@dkironworks4037]

How much refractory did you use to make a burner that large? best guess on pints?

[@OldHickoryForge]

Not sure in pints but it took about 8 pounds if I remember correctly. Maybe a little more

[@dkironworks4037]

@@OldHickoryForge Im looking to try and make my first ribbon burner for a 30lb propane tank, gets me a good idea how much ill need to buy

[@OldHickoryForge]

@@dkironworks4037 your best bet would be to spring for the 55 pound bag. You get a much better price per pound and that way you'll have plenty. As well as plenty to keep on hand for other builds or future re lining. If you have a harbison Walker near you, you can get everything you need there in person and cut out the cost of shipping

[@dkironworks4037]

@@OldHickoryForge I happen to have one an hour away. What does a 55 lb bag run for typically?

[@OldHickoryForge]

@@dkironworks4037 about a dollar a pound or so. Normally it's the shipping that really gets you

[@Hammerandhilt]

Hi John, regarding ribbon burners for gas forges how much more efficient do you find them to be compared to a standard gas burner? Is it a much hotter burn or do you find it makes it more efficient with burning propane i.e: a bottle will last a lot longer? Cheers, Rob.

[@OldHickoryForge]

I find they heat up the chamber faster and I can get about 15-20 percent more run time out of my gas depending on what I'm doing. The biggest benefit is the more even heat distribution

[@Hammerandhilt]

@@OldHickoryForge thank you for the reply and information, I mostly use a traditional coal forge but due to the current situation in the UK I may be forced to move over to gas. Never used a ribbon burner but have see you use one for some time so thought it would be best to get your opinion on the matter. Cheers Rob 👍

[@davidclark7271]

There are a lot of reasons to "like" this video but it got mine because of the grinder comments. 😂

[@billwoehl3051]

No doors?

[@Barncat01]

To hell with those grinder guards!!! There I said it! Fight me lol

[@get-focused]

We need a nothing to it counter

[@BubuH-cq6km]

2:18😅 🤣 👍🏼 ...😎 build

[@jacobhammond5432]

Has anybody noticed that he sounds exactly like norseforge?

[@jackcollier929]

Right on man, that's what I do with the grinder shields toss them in the trash, If the safety police don't like it go pound sand!!

[@leatherface711]

Man I love your videos, and I am not one to be the safety police, but if I could give you just a little bit of positive criticism, I guess would be when you’re welding to wear some kind of gloves, a long sleeve, not because of the possibility of getting burned but because of the amount of UV flash that is being soaked into your skin, I weld every day as a heavy equipment mechanic for my day job and that would be my only critique and I know it’s my opinion in my opinion only so take that with, however, many grains of salt, but keep up the good work

[@josephgarrard7692]

Looks good John!

[@fredflintstoner596]

Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment?

[@georgeschnakenberg7808]

idk cuz I threw it away

[@Munxcub]

You keep saying "nothing to it" when clearly there is something to it. Haha.

[@justin_ray]

Nice video as always. Did you keep some crayons around for a quick snack? 😉

[@billwoehl3051]

Why drill crayons out? Gonna heat it up anyway, set it on a raised grate inside a pan and let crayons melt out.🤔🤔🤔

[@Munxcub]

Learn what's what... where's the guard... don't sugar coat it, tell me how you really feel. Lol. I'm into it.

[@jabberwocky9408]

No gas solenoid? Brave...

[@JaggerVHS]

So when do we get Shirts that say "Nothin to it Really" on em? Im gonna need a few

[@frankheger5185]

👍👍👍🍻🍻🍻

[@bjellison905]

I dont think people understand that it takes a bit to cut through the tank. Cutting that guard off should be easy. Its not like youre using a torch

[@peewee11B]

All American. Hooah.

[@chrishayes9855]

82

[@snuucreations1202]

“Nothing to it really”

[@Gooseyboi403]

OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHJ

[@dirmusloner7963]

Wouldn't be much easier, to built a bottom blast coal forge witjlh a wider and bigger fire pot for the heat treatment of the blade? Just a question for learning

[@OldHickoryForge]

It would be quicker and easier to build yes. But not a great permanent solution. The heat would be inconsistent and having to maintain a coal fire would be a huge pain.

[@ltjon1924]

You're cheater bar is a little small... mo leverage, mo betta'!

[@Cetrifuga1945]

Mettiti dentò coi piedi poi vai oltre primavera ah hh

[@lucycarr6065]

Nothin to it really.