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@kenny13a2 жыл бұрын
"Another problema is the SD card. Half of the time it just doesn't detect the file system. Sometimes it does." IS not a bug, is a freature to give more realism as loading from a cassette.
@Crusher292 жыл бұрын
Need a new type of pencil then to rewind my SD card
@Akotski-ys9rr2 жыл бұрын
Or floppy disc
@paulb4uk2 жыл бұрын
Might be worth experimenting with sizes and brands some are better than others
@alerey43632 жыл бұрын
or use the "apple excuse": you're typing it too fast
@flashmusicarchive95842 жыл бұрын
a paperclip might replace the pencil in this case
@ChipGuy2 жыл бұрын
Baking is only needed if you solder this in an oven. Baking makes moisture that is dissolved in the caseing come out slowly, so it prevents it from become steam during soldering and popping the case open due to high vapor pressure.
@TheBananaPlug2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, came to make the same comment and saw yours was already here.
@TenOfZero12 жыл бұрын
Thank-you for explaining :-)
@Grunchy0052 жыл бұрын
I solder in a dry sauna, same precaution?
@jetin3352 жыл бұрын
Yes baking is to remove the moisture form parts (if exposed to humidity for to long) before using a solder bath, not solder in a oven. Since he’s using IC inserts and soldering by hand he would never need to worry about. Side note: Baking parts is a slow temperature rising process that takes a few days.
@ronb61822 жыл бұрын
@@jetin335 at my work we only bake when we coat the boards. We have a cart and insulation boards around the cart and use a space heater and we bake for one hour. That hardens the corformal coating. I'm sure all the parts were baked at the build house. I have to test the boards before I coat the boards then after baking. Most people don't bake boards unless they are told to. If I had my way I would require all coated boards and repaired boards to be baked.
@alexmcd3782 жыл бұрын
"as well as the Atari version." Sits bolt upright, sprays coffee on screen. Goes looking for a pre-order button
@poble2 жыл бұрын
now we need an nes version 😏
@Freewareopoly2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, it would also run on Atari with 64kb of RAM (on video, he uses Atari 130).. and then, if it will be NTSC or PAL version :P But looking forward to it :)
@alexmcd3782 жыл бұрын
@@Freewareopoly Hopefully 40k so it fits on a fully upgraded Atari 800. Given there's a PET version, it could fit on all Atari systems. Depends on whether the decision was universal compatibility or richer feature set. Then again, it should be possible to choose between versions on load and have the best of both worlds. Not expecting that but it would be a fantastic feature
@TheJeremyHolloway2 жыл бұрын
@@alexmcd378 Why hobble it at 40K when there's plenty of RAM upgrades for the Atari 400 - and the 800 - that'll take it to 64K and beyond?
@alexmcd3782 жыл бұрын
@@TheJeremyHolloway fully loaded Atari 800 has 3 16k expansion carts. So yeah, I was wrong about 40, but going beyond that means hacking the board with something like the ultimate 1mb module, which I wasn't including
@VJK1022 жыл бұрын
I’m kinda amazed that in 2021, with all the retro market, there’s STILL no replacement for the VIC chip
@sorrenblitz8052 жыл бұрын
Probably due more to legal rights more than anything. I'm sure a super nerd can reengineer them but they'll probably get their balls sued to the wall by whoever holds the rights
@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece2 жыл бұрын
Probably copyright on the chip itself or software on it. Even if that's no longer the case there is little incentive to start producing them now.
@frnno9672 жыл бұрын
A person has created a FPGA Vic-2 replacement for the C64. But not for the original VIC yet.
@tarstarkusz2 жыл бұрын
Because current year!!! I seriously doubt the world wide yearly market for VIC chips is even a 1000 units. It just makes no sense unless it were entirely done by volunteers. It would require putting up all the money, up front to get the chips made. Some asshat somewhere owns the right to that chip and will sue the person to try to suck whatever money they can out of that ownership. So this volunteer who has to spend probably many hundreds of hours examining the original chip and then put up thousands of dollars for the run and then has to sell that stock to someone has also painted a target on their back from said copyright troll. Not to mention the fact that the Chinese firm who does the run will STEAL that chip and do a run themselves and flood the market with fakes. Not worth it.
@johndododoe14112 жыл бұрын
@@tarstarkusz The rights owners (presumably a legal "successor in interest" to Commodore/MOS) could be paid to license production with or without access to historic design materials that might be in their possession. That said, the complete absence of on-chip software in these old chips might make it legal to reconfigure a commercial FPGA to do the job and put the FPGA config in a modern large ROM also containing the historic ROMs and bootstrapping code to provide soft switching of RAM blocks, clock speeds etc.
@MrDowntemp02 жыл бұрын
There are some keyset profiles where the rows are all the same. That should give you more options, and if you go with SA profile, it'll have a very retro look too.
@michealpersicko95312 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that you can get key caps that mimic the colors of the Vic or i even think you can get new Vic and C64 chips made for modern mechanical keyboards.
@HalianTheProtogen2 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say this, but you beat me to it. :D
@peterlinddk2 жыл бұрын
1:14 - I also dislike the sockets without the round notch, but learned that I could just push a dremel into the plastic and create a notch - preferably before soldering it to the board though :)
@cristicbz2 жыл бұрын
You can also use the iron itself to melt a notch if you don't mind the smell and getting gunk on your tip
@amirpourghoureiyan16372 жыл бұрын
You can use a marker pen as well.
@nickpalance36222 жыл бұрын
That thought occurred to me too. But when he held the two next to each other I noticed how much thinner the plastic “cross beam” was so if one were to cut into it (a noticeable notch otherwise why bother?) then you’ll maybe have a weak socket. IDK 🤷♂️ never tried it so maybe I should and report back. No. Too lazy. 😀
@Okurka.2 жыл бұрын
@@nickpalance3622 Or make a notch in the other, thicker side?
@Bewefau2 жыл бұрын
red tape might help too ?
@robertcourtemanche91852 жыл бұрын
Glad to see I'm not the only one who "watches" (listens) to KZbin while doing tedious tasks.
@Kylefassbinderful2 жыл бұрын
Same. I'll also have Taylor Swift in the background. It's catchy enough to work as background music but not enough to distract me from my project.
@chester84202 жыл бұрын
Same. I'm planting soybeans with a tractor right now.
@themac63562 жыл бұрын
@@Kylefassbinderful I thought it was quite ironic that the song he was listening to was”Delicate”, since he was doing some “delicate” work.
@gymnasiast902 жыл бұрын
Heh, same. If it wasn’t for KZbin, I don’t think I’d ever do the ironing.
@lucasrem2 жыл бұрын
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@MrZedblade2 жыл бұрын
1:15 The assembly music on this is brilliant. Anders Jensen always makes great music but this particular song is just amazing.
@AlainHubert2 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed!
@MrZedblade2 жыл бұрын
I found the song, it's "Attack of the Petscii Robots - Level 3: The Village"
@thisisaloadofbarnacles9212 жыл бұрын
@@MrZedblade That means Anders did not make it, Noelle did!
@MrZedblade2 жыл бұрын
@@thisisaloadofbarnacles921 Noelle made the actual in game music. But Anders circled back and made his own songs, I guess just for fun or maybe they'll show up in some future version of the game. They're on YT, search "Attack of the Petscii Robots - Level 3: The Village"
@thisisaloadofbarnacles9212 жыл бұрын
@@MrZedblade Oh neat, I didn't know that!
@mlenz25532 жыл бұрын
The music is a perfect match. Feels like a montage from Real Genius.
@sbanner4282 жыл бұрын
Anders Jensen makes some gooooood stuff
@MrZedblade2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! It's "Attack of the Petscii Robots - Level 3: The Village" by Anders Jensen, can be found on youtube.
@Brew782 жыл бұрын
I can't hear montage music without thinking of Team America
@NetworkXIII2 жыл бұрын
Liked for the Real Genius reference.
@Jody_VE5SAR2 жыл бұрын
I love the new studio layout - that works very well - and the wall coverings look so much better this way. Great job - can't wait to see more videos! And the X16 proto-3 board looks very pro-grade - another project I'm eagerly waiting for!
@woodch2 жыл бұрын
I just want to point out that I notice the upgraded production quality on all fronts. I'm glad to see you made it through that mess over the winter and came out shining at the other end. Keep up the great work!
@FlyinBrianMeyers2 жыл бұрын
Few things give me that simple joy of nostalgia and interest as listening to your podcast or watching these videos. Nice job as usual.. Very well done.
@branscombe_2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great content man. You hit me in the feels with all this old hardware I used as a kid.
@hernancoronel2 жыл бұрын
It is amazing to see a Vic-20 with S-video! Thank you for the great video David!
@jonkratzer90862 жыл бұрын
So glad there’s a new video! This channel has gotten me through the pandemic. Found the channel through a restoration channel when someone mentioned how 8-bit Guy does retrobright…I’m hooked on this channel!
@dparks2562 жыл бұрын
Awesome new studio, thanks for all the great content over the years!
@nidulaperera2 жыл бұрын
This kit is great if you have a dead vic-20 Then you can swap motherboards and have an up to date motherboard that will probs last for years
@tacticalburger3752 жыл бұрын
I didn't even think of that!
@tacticalburger3752 жыл бұрын
@@cyberman7348 i don't have any vintage computer
@aprofondir2 жыл бұрын
Don't think you can swap motherboards as it's not gonna fit an original case nor support the ports
@nidulaperera2 жыл бұрын
@@aprofondir that is true for example the cartridge slot is upwards not to the side however you could do a mod (as it is a kit) and actually make it work
@ct924042 жыл бұрын
@@nidulaperera You must be a Millennial if you think that's "vintage."
@Demented19712 жыл бұрын
Dude, this video is great! It really makes one want to get into the hobby. You have so much passion and knowledge, and your way of communicating is fantastic!
@TheSulross2 жыл бұрын
if everyone that watched this tried to acquire and build this kit, imagine the squeeze it would put on the ebay supply of VIC chips
@hakimESC2 жыл бұрын
Amazing. I always feel so small and insignificant when watching your videos, yet filled with a great feeling of nostalgia and amazement 😃
@JangoAC2 жыл бұрын
Your new studio is so cool. Really good idea with the little office and additional workspace!
@pentahodataintegration-thi89802 жыл бұрын
A new video from 8 bit guy is always a good video.
@chriscwharris2 жыл бұрын
I still have my VIC 20, given to me Christmas 1981 when I was 11! I learnt to programme using it and have worked in IT for 32 years 😀 unfortunately it no longer boots up but I do have another which was booting last time I checked it. I also have a Sinclair ZX81 and Amstrad CPC 464.
@hnmcclain Жыл бұрын
I too have my VIC-20. You're just a smidge older than me. Got mine the same year but I was 7. To your point, went on to get an EE and CS degree and have been working in the industry since I was 17. I've also got a Sinclair 1000, a TRS-80 Model IV, and a Mac Plus (with 1 Meg of RAM and a 2400 baud modem... I was the man in high school!!!LOL) and countless machine I built between college and now. Such great times. What's amazing is that my ex wife is just six years younger than me and her coding style (also a CS major) was utterly different from mine. She never had to learn to program in a world of limited memory and everything was OO based by the tie she go to college. We solved the same problem one time many year ago and and he code had to have been five times the size of mine. But I give my VIC-20 (and learning Assembly and cutting my teeth on K&R) all the credit!!!LOL
@MibiCookieEater8 ай бұрын
I absolutely LOVE that cable!
@paulb4uk2 жыл бұрын
Kit looks superb nicely built sir i have never owned or used a vic 20 one i missed out on .x16 is looking great nice work .
@MelsvanWees2 жыл бұрын
PEtsci robots looks amazing on the x16 definitely want to buy one now 😂
@Narcrate1402 жыл бұрын
@cheese game patreon get early access
@hamzasafdari93602 жыл бұрын
Totally
@MelsvanWees2 жыл бұрын
@cheese game magic! No I’m a Patreonmember of the channel hahah
@johnwiiu70052 жыл бұрын
Wow the x16 looks amazing! Can't wait for it :D
@the1ucidone2 жыл бұрын
The new Workspace is absolutely stunning. Great video as always.
@OppressedApe2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy nerding out when I watch your vids, thank you so much for the great content !
@frogczar2 жыл бұрын
David, thank you so much for creating an Atari 8-bit port of your game! I'm excited to see it and possibly purchase it! Any extra Atari 8-bit content is greatly appreciated!
@TheSulross2 жыл бұрын
PETSCII Robots would probably be great to play on things like a Game Boy, yet more potential porting targets
@TheJeremyHolloway2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSulross ....ahem, Atari Lynx.
@naritus.resident83882 жыл бұрын
Ah, your continuity test beeping was the same tone as my battery backup unit and I got startled for a second. Fun video, thanks!
@bacontilldeth2 жыл бұрын
LMAO!
@stevefox422 жыл бұрын
I always look forward to your new videos. Thanks for another excellent episode.
@coachace1232 жыл бұрын
Wow, watching you solder this together brings back memories from the mid-80s when I spent many nights in the ITT Technical Institute lab setting up fellow students' capacitors to charging up and explode in their toolkits. Good times.
@minervamaga2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to pop in and say that while I've only recently found your channel, I am super happy that you have full captions on this video that is barely 4 hours old. So many videos still rely on auto captions and it is amazingly refreshing to find a channel that defies that. Thank you so much!
@AntneeUK2 жыл бұрын
You can't just end on that Atari 8-bit bombshell! I've been waiting years for something like this!
@RavenWolfRetroTech2 жыл бұрын
Its amazing how far retro recreations have come. BTW Nice soldering, its good to see someone that knows what they are doing!
@Jordan-ez2gn2 жыл бұрын
8Bit Guy you are truly the joy of my day. My day always gets a little better when I see you've uploaded a new video. Your videos have gotten better and the new studio is fantastic, keep up the amazing work.
@BrassMtn2 жыл бұрын
That printed keyboard case is HIDEOUS! great build tho!
@georg68762 жыл бұрын
Yea. Looks like it could use a bit of sanding.
@unlokia2 жыл бұрын
@@georg6876 it could do with being crushed
@TWX11382 жыл бұрын
Mount the dip switches for memory control on the underside of the board and perforate the case to reach them.
@KAP01able2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying the new content and your background 'graphic stuck to the wall' is MUCH better now. Excellent work and I look forward to many new and interesting videos, like this one!
@autumnshade842 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave for another enjoyable video. Your videos always encourage and inspire me to get into my various computer projects. So thanks for the entertainment and 8-bit education! :)
@ClassicGameSessions2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, our first computer at home when I was a little kid was the VIC-20. It had the cassette tape drive and we played that Chopper game a lot! Thanks for the nostalgia!
@RandomWire1072 жыл бұрын
Same!!!
@71kaye2 жыл бұрын
@@RandomWire107 me too I played mouse trap and the vic version of space invaders to death
@ClassicGameSessions2 жыл бұрын
@@RandomWire107 Great memories!
@ClassicGameSessions2 жыл бұрын
@@71kaye Oh right, Mouse Trap! That was so fun too and who could forget the Space Invaders game! I remember there was a side-scroller game where you're driving a moon vehicle and it was so much fun! I think it was the VIC-20 but there's a chance it was the Commodore 64!
@71kaye2 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicGameSessions yes! had that game too. lunar lander. it didnt get harder so much as impossibly faster. lol
@aidanbrooks7712 жыл бұрын
“One of the few times adding more ram will break compatibility” *Laughs in Windows 95*
@lucasrem2 жыл бұрын
You need to write a expanded memory salutation in machine language, why the solderings????? all compatible apps that support expanded mem will support it! Windows is just a shell over DOS, supporting all DOS mem configs.
@johngangemi13612 жыл бұрын
Read the Intel and AMD software developers manuals. The IBM PC compatibles (x86 and AMD64) have a lot of quirks in the memory maps even in the modern age of UEFI instead of legacy BIOS.
@aidanbrooks7712 жыл бұрын
@@johngangemi1361 i was more talking about the fact that having greater than about a half gig on 95 causes it to fail to boot
@johngangemi13612 жыл бұрын
@@aidanbrooks771 oh okay.
@customsongmaker2 жыл бұрын
"Nobody will ever need more than 64 megabytes of RAM." - Bill Gates
@gaptastic2 жыл бұрын
excellent camera work. love the close up shots, it's like I was soldering
@djneo92nl2 жыл бұрын
The construction/ soldering montage is amazing
@MyChannel-rf8ic2 жыл бұрын
Wow you're super talented with that iron i could never keep my hands so steady. Nice to see people still appreciate the old Vic 20, or should i say Vic 2020.
@TheSulross2 жыл бұрын
Vic 20 21st Century edition
@ColtGColtG2 жыл бұрын
keep reading the comments, soon the solder police will show up saying how horrible he is, how he is doing this wrong and that wrong and OMFG he is so lucky he didn't break this part becasue this reason. the pedants never fail to appear when he breaks out his iron.
@unlokia2 жыл бұрын
Or just talented, and tone down the hyperbolic “super super” 🤣
@scythal2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSulross The Vic-21? :P
@kajyakuzonik91302 жыл бұрын
While I'm not a fan of the vic-20 (I was brought up with a C64 ;) ), I love to see new remakes and spin-offs coming out every now and then
@tianshi84532 жыл бұрын
Always getting in a good mood when watching your videos. Thanks!
@TheCyberDruid2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video :) Really interesting to see the Vic 2020 and hear about it's diffences.
@AmartharDrakestone2 жыл бұрын
There are two solutions to the keyboard. 1 - use a uniform profile such as DSA or XDA. 2 - Use blank keycaps and put stickers on them (or make your own dye sublimated ones). Also for non-uniform keycaps, I'd recommend either the SA or MT3 profile (though I don't know if either of those are available as blanks).
@khoinguyenphamtrong46372 жыл бұрын
The SA and MT3 are pretty expensive so using some knock off dsa can be easier
@AmartharDrakestone2 жыл бұрын
@@khoinguyenphamtrong4637 True, but they would give a more authentic feeling as they pretty much resemble what was on Commodore breadboxes. Especially SA which usually comes in glossy ABS.
@daemonspudguy2 жыл бұрын
How do make custom dye sublimated keys?
@AmartharDrakestone2 жыл бұрын
@@daemonspudguy Kinda like that: www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/gu1qmc/diy_how_to_make_custom_dye_sublimated_keycaps/
@paulstubbs76782 жыл бұрын
Weird that they did a kit that required an 'unobtainium' chip. I wouldn't mind it as a keyboard only, for feeding an emulator of some soft (VICE etc) rather than using a PC keyboard.
@unlokia2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s a bit clumsy to make a kit that depends on secondhand parts.
@D0Samp2 жыл бұрын
As said in the video, I guess the VIC-I isn't too hard to provide as a FPGA since there aren't any non-deterministic parts to it like the SID.
@maxxdahl60622 жыл бұрын
@@D0Samp Yeah the vic 20 would be infinitely easier to do one of these for than the 64. So many proprietary parts on the 64 and such.
@TheEmeraldMenOfficial2 жыл бұрын
@@maxxdahl6062 SID clones exist, though!
@maxxdahl60622 жыл бұрын
@@TheEmeraldMenOfficial Yeah but darn near everything, the CPU, PLA, CIA, VIC-2, etc are proprietary for the 64. Absolutely love the SID chip.
@thatbillguy52112 жыл бұрын
Yt playing in the background so you don't go insane doing the same thing for hours on end. Best tip ever imo.
@chasenthehype2 жыл бұрын
This was excellent! Loved seeing the step-by-step of each part and chip. There was some ASMR level sounds when you were clicking in those chips lol.
@acht_bits2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear you’re working on the Atari 8bit version of your game. Shipping to Germany will probably make it unaffordable though. We‘ll see :)
@lennaertedens46242 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t Anders Jansen do the shipping for Europe?
@luiszuniga28592 жыл бұрын
ATARI !!!
@theannoyedmrfloyd39982 жыл бұрын
Attack of the ATASCII Robots!
@nickpalance36222 жыл бұрын
I’m excited! I still have my 800XL. I loved my 800XL. There are many others like it, but this one is mine. Oh and I’m that guy who had a 5200 and thought the controllers were mostly good. But doesn’t this mean that the game will have to be called Attack Of The ATASCII Robots?
@markdaly19032 жыл бұрын
ahhh atari and pong....takes me back
@gabrielsanchez16752 жыл бұрын
Loved the idea of playing your petscii robots game on my Atari computers looking forward to see the video about that!
@lucasrem2 жыл бұрын
You need content, KZbin job too? Just upload it!
@bobbobson40692 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video! Can't get enough of them. It's my highlight of the week!
@ZoltanvamosOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Yay another 8BitGuy video! Glad to see your studio finished and a brand new fresh video!
@physicsforall.56322 жыл бұрын
I don't understand a single thing that he explains about circuits but still I love watching 😂👍
@easyelectronics43642 жыл бұрын
Just indian things🤣
@francistaylor18222 жыл бұрын
I think it's something about computers
@danfm12 жыл бұрын
@@francistaylor1822 seems like it
@nickpalance36222 жыл бұрын
Maybe get a personal trainer at your local gym? I hear you can do “circuit training” there. 🤣
@physicsforall.56322 жыл бұрын
@@nickpalance3622 I'll think about it 😂😂
@TheOcculus2 жыл бұрын
Since the s-video signals work properly why not cut the incorrect traces and bodge wire it?
@BastetFurry2 жыл бұрын
This. Seems like a simple enough fix that nobody will see in the end.
@horusfalcon2 жыл бұрын
@@BastetFurry It's a shame to have to bodge something like this, though. Let's hope they fix in in the next board revision.
@BastetFurry2 жыл бұрын
@@horusfalcon from what I get this is a single run with no intend for a next one. I think you can get the CAD and Gerber files somewhere and do it yourself tough.
@azzajohnson21232 жыл бұрын
@@horusfalcon Yeah paying money because someone fucked up a board revision instead of just fixing it and sending out the new lot...
@daemonspudguy2 жыл бұрын
Last time he tried bodge something to work, a rare but worthless IBM prototype blew up and everyone yelled at him for destroying something that was apparently valuable, despite it being worthless. Why do you think 5 of them ended up in boxes and eventually ended up in the warehouse of a long abandoned computer store?
@allluckyseven2 жыл бұрын
Cool computer kit! Also thanks for the news on the Commander X16 and Petscii Robots!
@LuderSatan12 жыл бұрын
These videos of kit are always fun. I love seeing something new being put together, in order to make it play something that is 40 years old.
@SomeOrangeCat2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Omega Race on the Vic-20 is a really solid port!
@matthiasgalus42872 жыл бұрын
I got no memory of how many hours of my childhood i spend playing omega race on my vic 20
@theannoyedmrfloyd39982 жыл бұрын
Omega Race is the only VIC-20 cartridge I own.
@ballyastrocade56722 жыл бұрын
It really is surprising how close it is to the original arcade game, especially considering that you're not only stepping down to a slower CPU (the original used a Z-80 running at 3MHz) with less RAM, but going from a vector-graphics display to a bitmapped raster display to boot. Probably one of the best Omega Race ports out there. Someone at Commodore put a *lot* of work into that one...
@rog22242 жыл бұрын
Lack of a VIC replacement notwithstanding, I think I'd go in with some bodge wiring to get the S-Video pin out correct, and extend the DIPs to mount them on the case in a suitably cut slot. Hopefully some future case rev will allow that.
@Grunchy0052 жыл бұрын
That case looks suspiciously 3d-printed.
@kstricl2 жыл бұрын
My thought just now would be to cut the traces and use jumper wires. Or, if you have the knowledge, you could go grab the layout files from the designers bitbucket and correct the pinning properly.
@486dx33mhz2 жыл бұрын
@@Grunchy005 and that's a problem why? it's easier and cheaper to 3d print cases.
@Forcemaster20002 жыл бұрын
It's great there are still ppl like you keeping old tech alive!
@gregorymccoy67972 жыл бұрын
You're a busy guy! Love your videos. I appreciate all the time you put into them.
@RetroTechChris2 жыл бұрын
15:55 Hey, I know that guy filming there :-) Cool to see the build here, and great update on the X16!
@linc_inc2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the commander x16
@Tee-bn4bb2 жыл бұрын
It's always such a treat when you upload a new video :) Hope everything's been well up in Texas!
@qualin19742 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I watch your channel Dave, great review!!
@catrass75152 жыл бұрын
_Building a VIC-20_ : Yeah, seems interesting _and X16 Update_ : Now this got way more interesting real quick
@BrianRRenfro2 жыл бұрын
There is one song that is used repeatedly through here and every time it comes on I have flashback of my cell phone ringing about 10 years ago.
@clonkex2 жыл бұрын
Studio lighting looking great in this episode! :D
@RhoTrepaan2 жыл бұрын
awesome progress on the x16 side
@Unix28162 жыл бұрын
So I’m skipping basically my chores to watch this amazing video
@TheAlphaWoomy2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the designer really should of consulted users like yourself for help with the dip switch for example. It's kind of a no brainer to have easier access to those switches...
@unlokia2 жыл бұрын
Should *_have_* , my friend. I’m not being cocky and a know it all, I hope you see I’m gently correcting you in good spirits.
@myprobate16612 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy to see so many people using these 8 bits. I spent a lot of hours typing on the VIC20, as many of us did, keying in software from magazines, trying to understand how they worked.. Sadly, I tossed mine out many years ago. Keep up the good work.
@mikeyoung98102 жыл бұрын
Typing in programs on a friends vic 20 was how my computer days started. (in fact I am still looking for one particular program from that time..Star Challenge). So tedious but it led to me owning a timex and c64's and many more. I don't have any of them anymore due to a flood but I have lots of great memories.
@Innochamp2 жыл бұрын
Really cool to see a "modern" vintage working computer 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@TheSulross2 жыл бұрын
if everyone that watched this tried to acquire and build this kit, imagine the squeeze it would put on the ebay supply of VIC chips
@NimhLabs2 жыл бұрын
"Why have scalpers gotten so into the VIC-20?"
@Bry100222 жыл бұрын
Will the ram and charset be expandable. I'd like to be able to define glyphs for greek, cyrillic, and european languages. I'd also like to define up to 65,535 glyphs… Can the glyphs be 16x16 themselves?
@urugulu16562 жыл бұрын
a full kanji set. good thats an awful lot of characters...
@BrassMtn2 жыл бұрын
Get a modern computer you simpleton
@Jesse__H2 жыл бұрын
Oh gee, @@BrassMtn why didn't WE think of that?? 🤦♂️
@il-dottore2 жыл бұрын
@@BrassMtn Wait, you're telling me that The 8-Bit Guy doesn't cover modern 64-bit technology?
@mrmimeisfunny2 жыл бұрын
are you talking about the X16 or the VIC-20?
@miguelnglopes2 жыл бұрын
The studio looks great now! Great work!
@Siansonea2 жыл бұрын
I don't collect vintage electronics and I would never try to build a computer like this, but I love watching you work with all this cool stuff.
@TylerFurrison2 жыл бұрын
I knew that progress for the X16 was chugging along nicely when I was able to try an emulator (I'm on a laptop with non-standard function keys so it's difficult to test)
@Nikku42112 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on the Atari computers themselves. They're strange systems alright.
@gargonovich2 жыл бұрын
LOVE the Atari 8-bit computers! Very powerful, but veeery quirky.
@RetroDawn2 жыл бұрын
He's gotten facts about them wrong in at least one previous episode, so you might want to watch a video from someone who actually has a love of and history with the machines, instead.
@Mrshoujo2 жыл бұрын
Atari 8-bit systems aren't quirky or strange. They're very straightforward to understand.
@SupremeNerd Жыл бұрын
@@RetroDawn were those facts wrong or were they just MORE FACTS??
@shawnburke34272 жыл бұрын
Love watching these episodes featuring computer builds
@videocruzer2 жыл бұрын
My big Brother and I bugged our old man all the time for those gaming consoles back in the early 80's. One Day our father came home with brand new Vic20, Printer and Basic programing book, told us if we wanted to play video games you will have to program your own. My brother and I took our bikes to the book store in search of a more advanced book on Basic if that makes any sense, had to wait for the special order about 10 days. My Dad designed and built a sound proof cabinet for the Printer.
@AristarcoPalacios2 жыл бұрын
It's so cool to hear your happiness when talking about to start assembling a new kit. :D When you showed the Petscii Robots game on the X16 I let out a "WOOOOW!" Looks amazing!! I'd like to buy one of your C64 versions but alas my drive developed the failure where it spins forever and never reads. That's the only cause I'm not longer using GEOS to this day. Also I saw you're going to publish an Atari version but the machine is a 130XE and I only have a 65XE and no disk drive. Will you ever make SD card versions? It'd be easier for me to get one of those modern SD card readers for the Atari or the C64. Also I smiled when you commented the Vic2020 keyboard feels amazing. I was like "Yeah! r/mk rulez!" Thanks for the episode! Peace.
@The8BitGuy2 жыл бұрын
All versions of the game also include a digital download so that you can put them on SD cards or whatever your drive emulator needs. The 65XE should be able to play the game just fine, but will require a disk drive or some sort of drive emulator.
@TheJeremyHolloway2 жыл бұрын
@@The8BitGuy you could also go cartridge route even though it would be more expensive. Especially if ported to the 5200. AtariAge and Good Deal Games do sell 5200 cartridge games just in case you wanted to partner up...
@marcberm2 жыл бұрын
The negatives/doublespeak on that moisture card are annoying as $#!%! It may not have mattered, but I think it was actually telling you that you DID need to bake them: "Bake parts if 10% is NOT blue..." {which is true, because it is pink, not blue} "...and 5% is pink." {which it also true}
@barryon87062 жыл бұрын
That's how I read it. It seemed like it was describing two sets of parts, the level 2 parts that didn't need baking (because the first circle was blue, and the level 2A-5A parts that did need baking. Took me a couple reads to get that, though.
@user-ig5qg7bx5r2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I was so glad to hear of some updates about x16. Can't wait until release)
@oli369992 жыл бұрын
I like that you didn't dumb down the explanation and used the context and then explained the whole idea as it was meant to be seen. No fancy graphics or goofy stuff just the straight meat of the computer.
@KyoshoLP2 жыл бұрын
1:58 Yikes, that power jack is not going to last, especially if you're using it constantly for turning the system on and off. It's only got the main two pins holding it on. There's holes in the PCB for the sort of jack that has two extra large pins to make it more secure, yet it came with that cheap one? That's nuts.
@unlokia2 жыл бұрын
I’m still waiting for some kid to wander along and complain _”But it hasn’t got USB C … fail!!”_ etc 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@theforerunnerreclaimer2 жыл бұрын
@@unlokia On one of his other videos (forgot which) someone was complaining about how the power connector was horrible and a USB connector would last longer
@LanternLabs2 жыл бұрын
I'm super excited about Petscii robots for Atari, it'll be the first new Atari game I've bought for a really long time...
@TheJeremyHolloway2 жыл бұрын
you are aware of the AtariAge website, right?
@greypatch88552 жыл бұрын
So ready for the x16!
@driptopia2 жыл бұрын
1:24 I like that you have delicate playing as you are checking all the delicate connections.
@F40PH-2CAT2 жыл бұрын
All those modded vic 20s you saw at that music warehouse need to be saved so they can salvage those chips.
@PaulBadman2 жыл бұрын
its a shame this isn't being sold as a flat pack kit
@PaulBadman2 жыл бұрын
@@alfa-psi this is why you don't have friends
@Bewefau2 жыл бұрын
yeah i wonna buy one.
@unlokia2 жыл бұрын
This ain’t IKEA 😛
@PaulBadman2 жыл бұрын
@@unlokia would be good though
@maridaudran2 жыл бұрын
Very Cool. my first computer was a Commodore VIC-20 that I got my senior year on high school. I later got the cassette, disk drive and 16k RAM module.
@milk-it2 жыл бұрын
Good points and review!
@pnnytx2 жыл бұрын
Imagine Planet X4 released exclusively for commander x16
@RealOscarMay2 жыл бұрын
Great idea
@anjalisanjayify2 жыл бұрын
He should name it planet X16
@RealOscarMay2 жыл бұрын
@@anjalisanjayify ye
@TheSulross2 жыл бұрын
evidently PETSCII Robots has been wildly more successful than Planet X so its getting all the retro nerd love
@gregclare2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it would be a smart marketing plan to release significantly improved versions of his games exclusive to the X16. So if you want to play the best versions you need an X16. Every platform needs its own killer game / app.
@cdg_-dz8qb2 жыл бұрын
That moisture card shouldn't be there as it's mostly for SMD parts, moisture sensitive part are only a problem when you reflow slolder them as steam could come off the package and misaligned the chip off his footprint. For a socketed dip chip it's fine....
@Hey_you_guys2 жыл бұрын
Cool music, love the panning synth.
@arisynily1882 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are really well made and you relax me so much, indeed I am now sleepy. Thanks :)