BUILDING PIPE FENCE - ADVANTAGES TO CUTTING CIRCLES (VS. COPPING PIPE)

We are burning more circles today talking about the advantages of burning circles (using the circle burner) when building pipe fence vs. copping pipe. I’ve done it both ways and sometimes you simply can’t use the circle burner but why do I like it more? I’m sharing all that with you in today’s video. I think this fence is coming along nicely! What do you think so far?
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[@danjackson2987]

That’s the nicest pipe fence I’ve ever seen!!! I worked as a welder helper for years for an older welder. That old man was a surgeon with a cutting torch and he could cut beautiful saddles. We didn’t do any fence work just pipeline. Good money hard work. 😀

[@jeffzimmers1114]

Inches - for me less room for error. KISS, 1 benefit to cutting holes in upright pipe also allows condensation to flow out of the lateral pipe and down the post pipe- longevity is key. In this example your pipe is most likely 1/4” thick so won’t effect your build. However, some lateral pipe is much thinner and can benefit from “drying out”. As far as saddles are concerned, it’s good to be cross trained in both methods. Diversity keeps your game up. As you put it-learn something new every day. Great entrance!!!!!!! Quality work

[@DanMcAdam950]

0:22 love the hub caps haha this man gets my style

[@davidgalenbeck7616]

Always dig the projects you get involved in . Making a hand .

[@KiperXIIX]

You are one of the reasons I decided to go to welding school. I love it! Graduate here in a few weeks! I plan on working at a navy shipyard in my town to start off and hit the road after I get some good experience!

[@olddawgdreaming5715]

Excellent job Austin, I hope your fill your class goal. This would be a great program for someone who’s looking for a business to get them started out in welding too. Best wishes, Fred. Stay safe and keep the cameras rolling. 🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻✋🏻✋🏻

[@kerryevans7413]

The entry and fence turned out great. It sure looks very sturdy. Great Job

[@FiremanCH87]

From what I’ve seen you do, this way gives you more room for error as opposed to saddles. Keep up the deadly work!

[@Ruben901]

Videos keep getting better and better 😎 just made a career change today, welding has been good to me for 10 years and loved every minute under the hood. But now, the pavement has been made and my journey begins 🇺🇲

[@mugshotbradley5505]

I usually measure in inches. The fence looks awesome! Great work my friend! Work hard and be safe.

[@Quaylokeepitg]

5:59 that instrumental jamming good rhythm to it , awesome job bro ! Been watching your channel since the pipeline days

[@jasoncampbell8797]

Awesome job Austin! Like someone else said, that’s the nicest pipe fence I’ve ever seen. Keep up the good work!

[@RHEC1776]

That is so hhuuggeee money on that fence. I love it

[@deone6434]

You've come a long way bud. Videos keeps getting better. The fence looks good. Keep it up man.

[@joseicolon7845]

Perfect work 💪

[@allenwatts3960]

U HAVE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB! IT LOOKS 😳 GREAT 👍 👌

[@blairhunewill3090]

Awesome camera work and great content

[@Whipple1]

Damn fine fence, Austin. Beefy is an understatement. Cheers! Whipple

[@johnmoriarty6158]

That does look really nice.

[@petermccuskey1832]

Really nice looking.

[@glenngosline3303]

Very nice as always

[@ashtonbartley5361]

That is slick!!

[@fernandomarrufo8782]

Amazing just amazing 👏🏼

[@fabianmoya9896]

Great job bro

[@jasonwhitehead5352]

Really nice fence

[@dusthill7032]

Both depends on the prints.... finished Job looks awesome... planning on doing this when my cedar posts are gone

[@sebastianlee6847]

Your living my dream bro

[@juliusjohnson3177]

Only doing carpentry work I like feet and inches. Any other craft will be just inches for me. Thanks for sharing all the work and knowledge! Fence looks good also.

[@nickolaswiley7637]

Great looking fence from Indiana. There’s a guy at The Railyard that is from our town...

[@wadewittman8510]

Well Austin, it sure looks good. I sure like the beefy look too, gotta keep those elephants from getting out 😁👌

[@freedomm323]

BTW, this fence is GORGEOUS! Carpenter opinion; the hole cutting has got to be a better system over coping overall. Once your line posts cut to length, you can jig cut your holes then set the posts using several methods to save time and provide a superior result. Then just cut horizontals (which can be rough cut within 1/2" because of length play allowed by this system)... You can even dry fit/assemble long runs, fine tune straightness and then weld up...I love it man! One beast of a fence too

[@leeshuford4654]

I super enjoy watching the pipe fence building videos!!!! Where can I get one of the torch holders you used to cut the horizontal pipe.

[@russelljackson7034]

Right on

[@motomfthug8551]

I know we're all stubborn to our own ways and what we're used to doing but you need an LN25 for projects like this. Fence looks amazing

[@Sumitso]

Hey Austin, a couple of things for you if you do not mind. Why not invest in a suitcase wirefeeder? It makes for faster welding, quicker restarts, and moving from joint to joint for situations such as the pipe fencing. Secondly, if you built an adjustable stand, you could use a quality chopsaw, which with the right blade, you can rip through the pipe, save time and reduce the O2/act expense. If I have any fieldwork like this, that is the method I use. Appreciate the vids, reminds me of my youth in OK.

[@sammason7361]

A chop saw is a must tool on this project. Beautiful fence, however time is crucial. Customers can't see their contractors using torches to cut line rails.

[@RYoung09]

Nice. I use feet and inches when measuring. Can you show your helpers set up for people just starting out that don't have a flat bed yet? Keep up the good work bud.

[@coryburwell4091]

I hate saddling pipe I have a notching deal notches up to 4 inch pipe down to 1 3/8. Your way gives it more fusion and penetration between the metals GREAT JOB

[@donaldguffey6883]

FEET and INCHES for me for basic layout. If I am multiplying or dividing ( Feet / Inches / Fractions ) with a basic calculator, I find it easier to use the Metric System. I recently had to lay out a 4 [uneven] hole pattern in a plate, and found it easier to use METRIC to find the Hypotenuse [cross corners] to check for the holes being square --- using the Pythagorean theorem. C squared = A squared + B squared or {{C = the square root of A squared + B squared}} "C" being the Hypotenuse Dividing uneven FEET [1, 3, 5, 7, 9 etc.] then adding that to inches can get tricky if you are not careful. The same goes for fractions of an inch. By using Metric, you don't have to convert Inches [to decimal feet] nor fractions [to decimal inches]. Metric is basically already is a decimal number system for use with a cheap calculation. Some Scientific Calculators can readily handle Feet-Inches-Fractions straight away [without converting]. This all works for me. DEG44401

[@allenwilson9656]

I work in a fab shop as the saw hand , we do feet and inches ( 13 inches is 1 - 1 )

[@lukepomerleau4653]

Just discovered you… I appreciate what your doing and the pride & ownership you take in your work. One question: if I wanted to burn sweet circles in vertical plate/pipe with your circle burner… what torch do you recommend for that job? A high end/low end option would be cool. I don’t own a straight barrel torch but DO prefer to keep it Victor. Thanks in advance!!!

[@arosswelding]

Here is the part numbers. Shoot me an email if you have any other questions. Straight Torch Attachments Small 0381-0421 CA 1352 Large 0381-1932 CA 2462 [e-mail]

[@lukepomerleau4653]

@@arosswelding Solid brother, thank you.

[@brendonh6055]

Inches all they way. Less room for screwing it up and math is much simpler that way. Good work homey!!!

[@jonnyonthespotwelding979]

Great looking work, but inch messures are less confusing for newer mechanics. Hood down lights on.

[@chadneely5632]

Pretty sweet looks if a bull gets out of that his name needs to be sale barn.

[@mauriciosaldana6207]

Hey Ross who do you charge by the foot or project. Looks dam nice

[@1lilfarm]

I read in inches. Just seems easier and less chance of mismarking. IMHO. 👍👍👍

[@RYoung09]

What rod did you burn on this fence

[@johnjacobs4207]

either ft or inches but to the sixtheenth when going in between two pipes. 7018 DC pluss? on that overhead?

[@2fwelding842]

My only question is why acetylene instead of portaband, chop saw etc. I hear generator in background is it just preference or habit. Same with hole saw, but I see consumable costs being higher for holesaw

[@donmedford2563]

Great looking fence. I am an American but live in the Philippines now. You have it easy, you only have to worry about feet and inches. Depending on what we are doing and who is working for me, we use feet, inches, centimeters or meters. I am a retired electrician but I am also a trivia nerd. How many tanks of oxy and acetylene did this project take? How many man hours was the total project?

[@sethelinsky8698]

Looks unreal. What’s a rough cost per foot of that installed?

[@shortfuse43]

Beautiful job on the fence! Thatsa lotsa pipe! I would bet, being the good welder you are, that you could have hand cut all those cross pipes much faster than rigging up the mechanical cutter. Since the pipes are stuck into the holes on the posts, you don't have to worry about a perfect cut since it will never be seen.

[@maryparvin3041]

union welder time plus material it would be different if quoted

[@wargamingsupernoob]

Brother, you just CAN'T be an inch guy where I work. It HAS to be feet and inches. You're crazy if you don't. Also, I just realized how valuable this course is for people. Yall are so passionate about what you do and want othes to learn what you know and avoid the same mistakes you made to get here. At home, we just use cedar posts and telephone poles. Otherwise I'd be all over paying for the class. You mentioned learning something new every day... Made a big mistake this week that cost me almost half a day by not putting enough tacks on some thin gauge before plug welding where our prints said to do. Lesson here is to add a TON of tacks before you start welding anything!

[@tejaswelding5230]

Telling me only in inches is like telling me in millimeter.

[@wargamingsupernoob]

@@tejaswelding5230 Absolutely. It makes everything seem a lot bigger than what it really is.

[@dougrundell947]

At the welding shop we used inches but when I changed jobs to a plumbing shop they insisted on feet and inches.

[@tylordavis6616]

I do inches. Trying to figure out the feet and inches takes a lil longer to do

[@campbellmillar2088]

I messure in mm over here in New Zealand

[@markmartin9444]

Guy must be keeping Rhinos in there. Awesome fence

[@theessexhunter1305]

I would and do cut them with a 9" disc cutter no slag but you need good arms lol

[@WhatDadIsUpTo]

Inches I like your fancy tool, but what's wrong with setting the pipe in a portable pipe vice with a "V" chanel and the other end on a pipe stand, rotating it with a pipe wrench, while you cut once, not twice? A good bit less pricey, I'd wager, cutting following a chalk line . As for through-holes vs saddling, I can install two runs to your one. I cut a "v" and flat-grind the pointy ends, then stitch the gap with weld. Also, your way REQUIRES two sizes of pipe and two setups. Looks nice, but I'm stickin' to old school. I could see punching holes, if I were using sucker rod, because sometimes it's magnetized and has to be torch-heated as I weld, to make it l penetrate, but building horizontal runs with sucker rod never happens.

[@jaredswanson7657]

If you had to throw a ballpark on the min - max cost of installing something like this what would you say. Not including the pipe (I am a distributor haha)

[@lukecody4684]

Awesome fence and great craftsmanship, but having spent a lot of time myself building fence and pens similar to this, I don’t know why you had to use a bevel machine on all those horiZontals? Seems slow. Each to their own but I figure those would be easy enough to eyeball. Good looking fence!

[@csmeyer24562]

How much does that 4-inch pipe cost roughly back east?

[@peters4067]

We read our measurements in Millimetres! 😎😉

[@frostgfx]

Austin: Do you use 3/8" diameter GAS hoses? Do you have a video about your straight barrel cutting torch? What about the beveler device? Thanks a bunch.

[@arosswelding]

I believe I use 3/16 hose. Here is a video about the straight torches and circle burners. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpLYemx8bNmap68 And here is a video about beveling machine. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKmUpWqlp9B9hcU

[@frostgfx]

@@arosswelding Standard is 1/4", but I might need to weld thicker stuff on heavy equipment, so wondered at what point do you need bigger hose for thicker material. Thanks for the links to videos.

[@Bigsoot7393]

Why not get all the pipes pre cut before heading to site? Seems like you could take days off how long this would take you?

[@justadumbfarmer4744]

What is the going cost of a fence like that in 2021

[@oklahomachris6298]

To answer your question I personally use both methods of measurement typically tho in an explanation to what I’m measuring I’ll say it’s 9’ 8” instead of the inches, I guess so it’s better understood cause you kinda know what 9 feet looks like but you don’t know what 108” looks like and you have to go how long it 108 again? So in short I guess I use both but more so inches when works being done. Now my question I have for ya…. Do you think it uses a bit more pipe not saddling your ends I see the slight waste from your throat cut so instead your using it on the inside of the hole in your upright? Anyway hope that question made since.

[@chrisflannery5546]

Feet and inches here in Michigan, in fact on the job if you say a number in just inches you liable to catch hell for it, never really understood why tho

[@Jaime.Vacado]

What will that fence be keeping in? A rhinoceros?

[@freedomm323]

Carpenter here, long stock or short, I always used inches only

[@abrahamcastaneda2051]

I have make some pipe fences here and there but never big and beautiful like this. Dying to make one.. anyway Question is.... im copping my uprights and doing top rail. No collars .. cutting those off and doing one long top rail BUT how do you guys keep it from sagging once is welded? I only run a small bed to fill in any gap then cap it.. still sagging. 10ft c2c uprights..

[@arosswelding]

Try landing your tie in near a post

[@abrahamcastaneda2051]

@@arosswelding appreciate the response. I do make tie ins right above the uprights/vert

[@heftylefty4054]

I am currently on a pipe fence job amd I am also having this problem. My welds on the poles are causing the top rail to slightly dip. I’m guessing from the heat. I think less heat is the cure but not sure.

[@abrahamcastaneda2051]

@@heftylefty4054 I seen a beautiful fence last weekend.. it looked like coping was perfect and only one small weld bead was on it. The weld wasn't all the way out to the top.. guessing caps are what makes them dip/sag. Too much heat perhaps

[@ccclc6159]

so now you can get a PHD aka post hole digger degree in fence building🤣 your pipe fence looks great

[@mattcollier1712]

Inches all the way!

[@thepitpatrol]

The title states that....like I could do either one 😆

[@markschultz1606]

Could you feed an uncut pipe through the post holes?

[@donaldguffey6883]

If I understand your question ------ You would have to over-size the Cut Holes ((on the sides --- not top and bottom)) to install [swing] a horizonal pipe into multiple Vertical pipes. Then, with the over-sized holes, would need more welding to fill in the side gaps. Not a nice clean welding joint. DEG44401

[@markschultz1606]

@@donaldguffey6883 - Cheers mate. I can cope with ugly welds: that's how I roll.

[@Panadrums]

I read mm = metric 👍🏻💪

[@TheRitchieLeeShow]

I like inches, and can get confused if someone else gives me a measurement like 7 8 meaning 7 ft 8 inches. They might get something like 6' 6".

[@gcranch9913]

Inches. How many bottles of gas and oxy do you go thru on a job such as this. Assume you’ve got the large bottles

[@arosswelding]

About 2x k size oxygen and one med acetylene

[@nickstone7506]

I’m an inch guy too

[@johnpope4464]

Why don't you use a portable band saw?

[@GARRETT-FAB]

Anything over 3’ is feet and inches under is fine just inches

[@Tuks7210]

Millimeters but ever since I moved to the US I find it easier to use inches

[@dougrundell947]

So 20 feet would be 7315.2 mm approximately,yeah?

[@davidgalenbeck7616]

Did y’all 6010 root and 7018 cap out ??

[@arosswelding]

We used 8010 for first pass and the cap.

[@davidgalenbeck7616]

@@arosswelding the torch head that you use for the circle work - what brand and is it called a straight head or something more specific ?

[@michel4music]

Milimeters, up to tens of thousands👌

[@joseargumedo7302]

👍🏻💵

[@jamestopel3734]

Probably a dumb question why can't the horizontal pipes be slid through the horizontal after the holes are cut?

[@donaldguffey6883]

If I understand your question "slid through" ------ My guess would be Alignment. You would have to over-size the Cut Holes ((on the sides --- not top and bottom)) to install [swing] a horizonal pipe into multiple Vertical pipes. Then, with the over-sized holes, would need more welding to fill in the side gaps. Not a nice clean welding joint. DEG44401

[@johnpope4464]

Depending on what I'm doing

[@markschultz1606]

Ohhhh metric your so fine, your so fine you blow my mind: go metric, go metric!

[@thekid3032]

Feet and inches for me, and triple checking haha

[@jameswoolsey7875]

Both it just depends on the job. Personally have no preference if it's feet and inches or just inches.

[@phillip1489]

I read in both inches and feet! First inches tho " ....then ' feet

[@user-or4vc9zq9i]

👏🏼👏🏼😅👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏼

[@gregbowles4017]

Ft and iches

[@cjgibbons5850]

If I'm pulling out the 100' tape then I'll go feet/inches. If it's my 30' or less it's all inches.

[@bryanginder5903]

Feet and inches! How come no pipeline work anymore!?

[@mikemaiman3623]

Always inches. Less chance for mistake especially when one man measuring and another cutting. Nice work. Very heavily built. I'm just not in favor of the big diameter cross rails. Not pleasing to the eye from an aesthetic standpoint.

[@krobertson4471]

Inches to keep it simple

[@gusferguson8353]

I gotta ask..... WTF are these fences for!?!?!? Bad ass fences with huge pipe!!! Was it cuz the pipe was "free" or cuz it's for some wild beasts?

[@sargentslaughter3509]

I read feet and inches, worked for too many carpenters

[@micksonneman8807]

mm 😊