Building the $3000 Chinese Carbon Superbike - Elves Falath Evo! | PT2

[@petef15]

Interesting story from the 2022 disc frame I've built in the last month: I recieved an email yesterday saying they had supplied me with the wrong C-ring adapter (the little part that goes on top of the top headtube bearing), this can cause the cap to rub on the frame and chip the paint. Indeed my paint was chipping slightly so I sent them a pic or 2. Today they've told me they are sending me a new c-ring. And a new frame.

[@Elves_Bikes_UK]

Thank you Peter. Elves Bikes are committed to providing the highest level of service to our valued customers. Out of hundreds of Falath Pro 2022 frames manufactured in the past month, we ourselves identified that potentially 16 could have been affected. It was imperative that we took a proactive and transparent approach by contacting you directly to ask you if your frame had been affected. So far, we have only had one confirmed issue which is your frame. Without question, we are delighted to resolve the issue quickly and to your satisfaction. Thank you for your ongoing support of the brand, we sincerely value your trust in Elves bikes.

[@Ataraxia_Atom]

Wow that's pretty impressive.

[@logojones96]

It would be fun to see some riding videos of all these builds you're doing sometime down the line!

[@JourdainColeman]

I'm going to be putting some miles on them soon so I'll have first ride impressions 👌🏼

[@christellelemaire9749]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💪

[@andyn666]

With 105 R7000 rear derailleurs you need to use a long nose ferrule or the cable will start to cut into the cable stop

[@ariffau]

Holy Schmolly. Still no ride feel review 😂 you’re really milking it. Haha By the time you upload a video, a new model would have superseded this Evo already 🤣🤣🤣

[@stitcher9290]

I'm really interested in perhaps getting a set of those Orome Valar wheels! When the review of the whole bike is up, would really appreciate some thoughts about the wheels themselves!

[@IronHorsey3]

Great journey on the build with Johnny who deserves most of the Goolag Tube revenue plus a free haircut. A man of patience with those insane inner-wired handlebars deserves nothing less. Awaiting the next part of the saga while I enjoy rides on my Trek 5200 with rim brakes that Johnny can adjust with his eyes closed in 30 seconds.

[@thebudgetcyclist4310]

It’s good technique to use a torque wrench but my two yeaes in a bike shop I never found a single mechanic using a torque wrench for lock rings or cassettes. I’m glad he provides proper instructions.

[@JourdainColeman]

To be honest I have the wrench to hand so make sense to grab it quick 👍🏽

[@dwight6502]

ELVES is quite popular here in the Philippines. Since we are close to China and shipping costs are often free. There are also a number of Filipino Bike KZbinr who use ELVES. 👍

[@16DegreesProjects]

Hi Jourdain, great video as usual, but this time a notch better! Two questions for you: 1) Have you used the adhesive sandpaper strip in the seat tube or just grip paste? 2) Do you know if direct mount for the real derailleur work on shimano ultegra Di2 R8150? Thanks man in advance!

[@dmitryjroz6693]

Nicely filmed. But the build is useless price wise. Canyon Aeroad CF SL 8 Ultegra is £3800 without a season discount. Canyon would keep the value much much better.

[@scottmccann4509]

I was hoping there was a 360 degree slo-mo of the bike at the end with heavenly music haha. Looks amazing!! looking forward to seeing your ride it 💪💪🙏

[@JourdainColeman]

I'll put together a lovely montage for you you Scott! 😁 - Glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏽

[@coky437]

Why are you wearing gloves while routing cables?

[@jsargcyclingsportsandtech]

I had many cuts on my hands from work. Also I had a wrist support, which I didn't want to cover in grease and oil, as I injured my wrist in an accident.

[@johnharris8394]

could be the disk break hose are the problem. Could be. Could be. Oh, fuck disk breaks.

[@andersnyberg4034]

When you grease the bolts you will overtighten them.

[@DaveCM]

What? The torque is the torque. How does it over tighten them?

[@nb_rebecca]

@@DaveCM The torque is indeed the torque, but how tight a fastener is at a given torque is affected by the friction between the bolt and thread! Lubrication reduces that friction, which in turn reduces torque needed for a given bolt tension/clamping force. With lubrication you need less force at your lever (tool) to overcome that reduced friction to stretch the bolt a given amount. If you tighten a wet bolt to a dry torque spec you've actually increased the tension and clamping force by a significant amount beyond spec which can definitely become an issue when clamping carbon part. Hope the explanation makes sense!

[@djseitz425]

I think one build video and one ride video Would suffice

[@FooFahFoeFum]

HELLO JOURDAIN: IS THERE A WAY TO CHECK THE THICKNESS OF CARBON OR STEEL FRAMES WITH A MACHINE LIKE AN X-RAY

[@Lektorskirap]

Thanks for this! And... I would LOVE to see some chinese tri bike on your channel.

[@JourdainColeman]

Maybe one day!!

[@theonemanopinion2764]

Got my Elves Eglath frame coming Tuesday! Was quoted 6-8 weeks to arrive, but it will have only been 3 weeks to the day Tuesday! Elves can thank you and your videos for my purchase! otherwise wouldn’t have known the existed!

[@JourdainColeman]

I hope you build goes well! 👌🏼 These videos can act as a guide

[@theonemanopinion2764]

@@JourdainColeman yeah, the bar routing will certainly help! Built loads of bikes, but never a fully internally routed one! Not a task I’m thinking will be fun lol!

[@JourdainColeman]

It took me a while the first time. I would allow a few hours and take it slow. Logic beats speed on this one 👍🏽

[@jauxed]

The little ring screw on the valve belongs to garbage.

[@kev81987]

How is the wheel? I am planning to get one as well.

[@JourdainColeman]

They feel good so far, full review video is inbound

[@kev81987]

@@JourdainColeman mine arrived today and it looks great. Do you manage to remove the red retainiion ring and get the spring and ratchet out of the hubs?

[@JamesDownes]

How does jhonny wear a helmet 🤔🤔🤔

[@mustaphasalim2577]

Super amazing video J. I even had popcorn while watching this one. Thank you for sharing.

[@JourdainColeman]

Hey man! Glad you enjoyed the video 👌🏼

[@ex3qtor]

You clearly got a "youtuber" version. Mine didn`t have the shadow derailleur hanger and had a regular pf30 BB not a threaded together like yours.

[@JourdainColeman]

Interesting... Did you reach out to them for a solution? Which branch did you buy it from?

[@ex3qtor]

@@JourdainColeman Yeah, they told me they can send me the threaded BB which they called inferior to a regular pf30. I got it from german shop. Got an apology and they changed info on their website after i told them i got something different.

[@MerlinMan1579]

The madness of apparently modern integrated cockpits, is perfectly encapsulated in the first 4 minutes.....ah, I'll pass on that job. 'Grease the spindle because it's going to be spinning like a sewing machine on Crack' 😂😂

[@JourdainColeman]

hahah... get the legs spinning!! Yeah, it's a task to install the cables. Ideally an integrated cockpit would be combined with an electric groupset so only 2 brake cables are routed which would be plenty of space.

[@jumarielampoloquio]

Can you give me one of your bike🥺 I dream I can get one too and joining cycling tournament 🥺

[@omegaPhix]

You dont need a super bike for joining a tournament

[@s.alsuwaidi7229]

Thank you jourdian, please could you help me with my issue, i had bought this frame with 100mm stem and 400mm handlebar, the problem is the bike shaking to much while standing accelerating for the climb... could it be wrong handlebar size ?

[@JourdainColeman]

When you say shaking, do you mean you don't feel stable? Mine is ok with narrower bars which are normally more twitchy.What bars did you have on your previous bike? Where they wider?

[@s.alsuwaidi7229]

@@JourdainColeman Yes I feel 90% unstable + I feel like I could fall at any moment... My previous bike was a cannondale Synapse with a 420mm handlebar.... Do you think the problem is more for me than for the bike???.... by the way am using Winspace Lun Hyper D67 wheels

[@jamescourier1545]

Bravo for blessing this build with a mechanical groupset! In my opinion, electric groupsets take away from the elegant simplicity of a bicycle. Well done. Cheers from Michigan USA

[@MTBScotland]

When I built up my new carbon wheels my puppy shat it with the pings and started to growl at the wheels 🤣

[@tankstando7750]

Weight?

[@leonschumann2361]

elves falath evo, ltwoo eRX, elite wheels. the ultimate chinese hyperbike build for 1/5 the price of a western hyperbike

[@andersnyberg4034]

Not sure when boxed shapes got aero enough to be "hyper". Guess we all see the next Koenigsegg being a box..

[@leonschumann2361]

@@andersnyberg4034 not sure when putting gaping holes into frames made a 15k$ bike better

[@JourdainColeman]

Sounds like a good build! 👌🏼

[@leonschumann2361]

@@JourdainColeman currently on the falath pro. but most likely going to get the evo when the ltwo eRX comes out.

[@JourdainColeman]

Not a bad shout! i'm hoping to upgrade a bike to eRX when it arrives.

[@mlee6050]

I just slide inner cable a few inches into the hydraulic hose to then feed it through with the inner cable acting like a pick to guide it to the hole, so far most times I follow opposite you as do through bars then the bike

[@cedric2246]

so much talking for a build bike

[@onedelacruz3660]

🤣🤣🤣

[@pinoyxbox]

That orome bar is a pain in the ass to route cables. I sold mine and got myself a controltech sirocco integrated handlebar. It’s a 2 piece handlebar and stem combo. Easy cable routing and maintenance in the future. And i can adjust the angle and can easily fit it to a new frame.

[@lovenottheworld5723]

You're not old school without tubulars.

[@JourdainColeman]

hahah... true that!

[@mlee6050]

Those tyre noises sound nice, I wish I had the wheels you got here but sadly not tubular version

[@franciscordero1]

The suspense is killing me 😊😅... I really like your videos, the humor behind it I guess... Excited for part 3

[@david-olivierpham3364]

Hi, question to Johnny, what is the exact length to cut the brake cable in the shifters? 😂

[@fathybalamita1537]

Great build. Will using some kind of lube make routing the cables easier?

[@JourdainColeman]

it could do actually... food for thought 🤔 . I do think there frames are designs fro Electric grouspets then it wouldn't matter.

[@fathybalamita1537]

@@JourdainColeman Sounds good. It would be nice if handle bars are properly labeled for mechanical/electronic group set. Take care.

[@glennoc8585]

Some aero all un one bar/stems are easier than others especially with all mechanical. The bars with underside with the removable covers are a better choice perhaps.

[@adriancozma6161]

Always great those videos 😊

[@JourdainColeman]

Glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏽

[@johnnyboy4711]

Johnny rocks!you harldy hold onto all those bikes,do you?

[@patrickfischer8400]

I have a question about the bottom bracket. Actually, it should be a PressFit bearing or? The designation SPF30 suggests it at least. The PF stands for PressFit. But I'm confused because the bearing is not pressed but screwed. I have ordered my frame with BB30-24. Should therefore be the same as that in the video. I'm a little confused right now and do not know which one to buy.

[@JourdainColeman]

Hi Patrick, it is indeed a pressfit bottom bracket - Press fit - The cups of the frame have no thread, they are a carbon surface. - www.bike-components.de/assets/a/Pictured-is-the-bottom-bracket-shell-on-a-Factor-L-95c6c65984b92eb007d85bb4fa6ebf8c.webp - Threaded - The threads for the bottom brackets are actually part of the frame. i0.wp.com/www.londoncyclist.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/bottom-bracket-area.jpg For this bottom bracket it's a bit unique, the two parts of the bottom bracket screw into themselves which basically presses them into the frame (if that makes sense). A normal press fit bottom bracket can be used as well. From my experience having the thread makes it easier to install. You can also press one side into the frame, then screw the other side into the side that you pressed. That's what we done on this build - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jICXm62vhKmNZ5I

[@tomaszmajorski5390]

Can you reverse the seatpost for triathlon?

[@rafaelsa5416]

Did the BB adapters come with the frame or did you need to get them separately? Since the BB says Elves i assume the adapters come included...

[@JourdainColeman]

Yes, there were included with the frame. 👍🏽 They were on the BB when I opened the box

[@ucdcrush]

I bought the same saddle. As I think you showed in a previous video, it's a very flexible shell. I've only ridden it once, and could feel it sinking down when I sat on it. So I think to have the same saddle height I'd need to raise it some. But I wondered, do you think the flexibility will create a stability problem on the bike? All the higher end saddles I have are solid except for the padding, nowhere near this much flex.

[@JourdainColeman]

Yeah, they have some flex. How does it feel when you ride? Mine feels good when I ride and as my bike fitter said... Ride it and see 👍🏼

[@ucdcrush]

@@JourdainColeman it didn't feel bad, but definitely felt like it was too low. I might try it again but my instinct tells me to keep things stable, a more solid saddle would be better.

[@LeandroCoelho3]

Why 85psi on 32mm?

[@bobwilliamson5574]

Imagine replacing the steering head bearings further down the line. Nightmare.

[@JourdainColeman]

Yeah, the maintenance isn't the easiest with routed bars.

[@Spiritdiver]

Waiting for mine

[@thomasforshaw8396]

👍👌

[@jesuswouldkilhimself]

Seems like the least fun bike build ever. Not just this one, either. All of these builds are at the very least tedious. To me.

[@labedzp]

Front brake on right lever ? And rear brake on left lever ?

[@labedzp]

@@savagepro9060 WTF ? Why ?

[@labedzp]

@@savagepro9060 where ? In space ? In normal world left lever is front brake right lever is rear brake

[@mosmes02]

It's UK standard.

[@labedzp]

@@mosmes02 OH UK Are diffrent space

[@labedzp]

@@savagepro9060i know that my english doesn't exist because i'm from normal Space :p where left lever is front brake a right lever is rear brake