Building the Bag: Episode 5 - Slower Fairways

[@benlaforge3838]

Was hoping for some MVP/Axiom love! The Crave is an outstanding low speed fairway. It’s dead straight, insanely controllable, can take power, and gets very surprising distance.

[@NutrigrainHulk]

I love my Axiom/MVP 6/6.5 speed fairway drivers! I bag a relay, a seasoned servo I imagine flies kinda like a Crave and a newer Servo. They all feel amazing in the hand, like a mid/fairway hybrid and all of them have massive distance potential when hit right. I spend a lot of time trying to sell my friends on them lol

[@JoshJackson13]

The relay too I bag both with the pyro

[@techtonic6892]

Agreeing with some of the other commenters. Gotta get your hands on some Axiom/MVP. The Crave is an amazing slow fairway. I also love my seasoned Volt.

[@kylesear5367]

this is legit my fav series on youtube rn, im gonn abe sad when your done building your bag, hope to see your final bag at the end! keep it up EO!

[@Sethdgregory]

Pinnacle Rivals

[@thesubstitute]

Love the Legacy Rival and Phenom. Their Icon (and Pinnacle) plastic is so good.

[@GolferOfDiscs]

WE NEED MVP/AXIOM

[@pepemagason6451]

Just want to say this series of videos are so helpful. I love watching you try all these molds. Thanks.

[@jaredwoodward9198]

Was really hoping for some Kastaplast and MVP/Axiom/Streamline discs. You represented them in previous videos, so was disappointed to not see them thrown this time around.

[@tannerbolen4678]

Yep, I think if you're an open bag player you need to give the Crave and the Drift a fair chance. Both of those are absolute money

[@chuckwalla123]

Agreed. The only disc I really wanted to see was the craze.

[@cdg101292]

Would love to see your opinions on the MVP Crave / Relay / Volt / Terra

[@ryandickerson6395]

And the Servo

[@drewwn8189]

I love my volt

[@redeyedpoohbear]

I've only watched half of this episode so far but I'm starting to have a panic attack thinking that the Axiom Crave might not be involved in this video? I'm going to keep watching hopefully we see the Axiom crave being thrown soon.... My favorite 6.5 speed hands down LOL

[@vega1221]

The KAXE/KAXE Z from Kastaplast are probably the furthest flying low speed fairways I've thrown. They are a 6 speed but go further than most 8 speeds. Would love to see them!

[@marinearmeni]

Gotta agree with this. Kaxe and Kaxe Z are great low speed fairways. They can be powered up instead of reaching for a faster fairway driver or powered down instead of powering up a mid.

[@adamlowe157]

You should also give a axiom crave a try...the older pre Sarah hokom ones kicked the kaxe z out of my bag...almost same exact flight just consistently 20" further

[@cdg101292]

The “Trees are 90% air” got me lol

[@patrickruszkowski9182]

MVP Crave / Relay / Volt / Terra - The Crave is the best slow fairway on the market. Maybe the Paige Pierce Stalker.

[@discmanwes7915]

So happy to see you bagging an exodus! I have been using one for the last year and it is my straightest flying discs by far. People are blown away when I throw it dead straight like 330 feet and it just sits as soon as it touches the ground

[@toddkauk6099]

Rival is an old Teebird mold, I bag two of them. A great fairway that can hold torque without turning over but flies straight.

[@07coco]

Great videos. Have you ever jammed on a boatman?

[@owenfoster661]

This is an awesome series!

[@robertsoliz6821]

The Discmania essence is becoming my favorite fairway right now. I've got one lighter one for hyzer flip to turn over shots and a heavy one in a stiffer plastic as my stable one. They get so much glide I can almost push them as far as my distance drivers but way more controlled, about 360' or so, which is great for an 8 speed!

[@redeyedpoohbear]

I would bet money that you can throw the 6.5 speed Axiom Crave further than any of those fairways thrown....

[@WhalePants]

I’ve thrown a Crave from Rec Robs bag, it’s very good. I just didn’t have it for testing. Definitely a great option to keep in mind for the future.

[@redeyedpoohbear]

@@WhalePants also check out the Crave for BH rollers it is super symmetrical and loves to roll.. ....( Not because it's Flippy )

[@pdderek]

Farther

[@redeyedpoohbear]

@@pdderek Google it 🤷 People use both further and farther to mean “more distant.” However, American English speakers favor farther for physical distances and further for figurative distances. .... Maybe I was talking figuratively ... We will never know....

[@pdderek]

@@redeyedpoohbear what country you from?

[@chrisrhome6638]

The new Oakley Color Glow Metal Flake Exodus are an awesome run and a beautiful stamp match with space theme and metal flake in the plastic.

[@Shmodizz]

No River, no saint?

[@DiscGolfFA]

I LOVE the Huia bro

[@reisspowell1353]

I lost my seasoned evader shortly after I got my color glow exodus. It turned out great because the exodus does a better job in that slot than the beat in evaders. And plus, I don't have to beat evaders in for so long to get them there. Great fairway trio I have rolling: lucid x maverick/exodus/evader. Loving it. LX maverick for big turnovers or flip ups, exodus for straight or shot shaping, and evader for big hyzers, winds, flex shots. Perfect.

[@brandonbarker1525]

Needs to be a second video lol of all these disc everyone is talking about for sure I'm mvp but love seeing you throw all these disc I haven't even heard of very cool 😎

[@wesendreizehn6710]

He missed out on the Kaxe. My overall favourite disc right now, I can power it as hard as I want, flies 350ft dead straight with short reliable fade at the end. Tasty forehands. Powered down it's an overstable mid. Even works as a putter. Will give you some of the sexiest long arching flex lines.

[@TMRaven]

Barela color glow Teebird3s are my jam. Such a grippy and glidey run of Teebirds.

[@discgolfwes]

Hoping you tried a Tracker, I need them put back into production!

[@linusthorsell437]

You need to make an EP2 on just axiom/mvp ones. Resistor/Crave/Relay/Signal are all sick!

[@Nancy_Druid]

Super psyched to hear your thoughts on the Exodus/Votum combo, I coincidentally happened to have picked both of them up recently but haven't had a chance to throw them at all due to snow.

[@orinlong889]

I got the Fu in a mystery box. Pink transparent just like the one you had. I was hoping you would bag it secretly just so I could have a disc that a pro also bags...I am a beginner and use it as my overstable disc, To see it so understable, I think I really need to learn how to throw. I get pretty much no turn on it...

[@tonykeith8823]

I personally throw an Innova Gazelle and a latitude64 spark. I also bag alot of Yikun molds and was stoked to see you throw one

[@Fableddd]

Was surprised to not see the crave/volt from MVP. The crave is super good and dead straight.

[@JustBBlunt]

Hoping to see your thoughts on the TSA Mantra

[@RipperStudio]

The Exodus is in fact the Eagle-L mold. 😘🤘🏼

[@dillonyoung8978]

Is the centurion just a TL or TL3 with more accurate flight numbers?

[@donkarnage6032]

My favorite slow fairway that I own is without a doubt my Eagle-L. Very similar to the Exodus and Crave. Haven't thrown an Exodus yet but it's what I hear. The Crave I will say does definitely go farther than my Eagle-L but the Eagle-L for me is more versatile because I can hit those Big Jerm-esque buttery smooth flip-up forehands with my Eagle-L whereas the Crave is slightly more stable.

[@nogad8909]

The Exodus is an eagle L mold

[@donkarnage6032]

@@nogad8909 Ok thanks. Good to know if I need to get another backup.

[@joshuatoland4228]

Should’ve tried out a crave, as well as a Kaxe Z.

[@xXxMRTCAFFSxXx]

Dang give the neo instinct by discmania a shot. Money disc. Also the axiom crave. Good little straight (crave) and slightly os flight (instinct)

[@pharaohstomb3998]

Votum and the new Dynasty are by far my favorite fairway driver

[@pharaohstomb3998]

Votum for me just flips up to flat flies dead straight for a while then finishes. Its my go to wood thrower.

[@dirkarcher2187]

You should really try a star cheetah... It has a very similar feel to a passion but a titch more understable. One of my favorite slower speed fairways.

[@davewaithe9424]

No crave? Or will Sarah be showing you if it's good?

[@arwidthornstrom1919]

Arent you interested in any more Kastaplast? Or was the Berg the only one?, was hoping the Kaxe/Kaxe Z would be a part of this video :)

[@1andonlyMiro]

8 speeds are my jam. For some reason I haven't found a 7 speed that I like that much, however 8 speeds (Striker, Essence) have been fun. 9 speeds I've pretty much always liked.

[@1andonlyMiro]

I would love it if Eric actually tried a Gold Line Striker by Lat64. My personal favourite which kicked the Explorer out of my bag really fast. Really underrated disc but difficult to find atm. I'd love to see a pro throw it (Feldberg does but someone else as well). It is significantly more stable than the Explorer but not a meathook by any means. Flies like a really beat in PD imo.

[@1andonlyMiro]

The Opto ones aren't as nice tho. They have more LSS but somehow less HSS.

[@DnBGolf]

Champion Leopard3 might be the most reliable straight fairway I've thrown, but obviously I don't have your arm speed. The Texas headwind helps though, and it hyzer flips to flat like a hero.

[@TheTjoconnor]

Drew Gibson threw a Leopard3 some last year

[@Skyondope]

I mean, there's really nothing bad to this, but this video give's me just the same feeling as the first putter video you made. Sure it's nice to see you throw all this different molds in direct comparison and hearing your thoughts about them. That is really cool, I love it! But I would have liked it more, to really get an opinion on the discs the first time you threw them, without having predefined what you want to throw.(and surprise, surprise it is something from the Infinite lineup ;-) ) Sure, you're sponsored by Infinite, so of course there is nothing to complain about your choices. ...and it has absolutely nothing to do with Infinite, because they have great discs and obviously you throw and like them. But when I see how this whole thing, which was originally pitched marketing-wise as an approach to a completely open bag, has turned out, it makes me a little sad. For me it feels like, ok I already know what to throw, and to keep the story going, I will chuck a few other molds around and tell why they didn't make it or that they simply felt not good in my hand. Maybe I'm totally wrong, but that was the first feeling when I watched the putter video, after I saw the Infinite warehouse tour (kzbin.info/www/bejne/qp2tnaeNppaam7s), in which you stated that the Alpaca pretty sure will become one of your favourite discs. Maybe it is exactly this first experience, simply reproduced, because you have probably tested the discs all alone without a cameraman. Probably it's just me feeling that way, but I would have preferred to see a video with the first selection, as it was suggested(or as only I suggested it^^), and then on a later date another one, with the discs that have made it in the bag and why. Instead of watching you, throwing this discs for the first time (or thinking you're throwing them for the first time) and then hearing you have this mold already in a fairly seasoned version too. Which makes it clear, that you have already sorted out what you will throw... That became way longer as I thought...sorry about this. In the end, this videos give us some more clues about quite a few discs in comparison and they are really fun to watch. I love your content and will watch the future videos for sure. I just had such a weird feeling and an urge to write something about it.

[@MC-sg5yr]

Yo EO gotta give the MVP resistor a shot. Its money forehand and backhand. Workably overstable super controllable

[@mattlance4272]

If you enjoy the tee bird you should try the star tl as a slightly different compliment to it and possibly a replacement

[@Peilla]

Not seeing a Kaxe Z is driving me nuts!

[@acollectorslifeforme4201]

The Alpha, Exodus, TeeBird, Centurion, Eagle, and TL3 are my favorite control fairway drivers. So easy to throw.

[@Cristopher1976]

I absolutely love my teebird3's. The AB and metal flakes. The mf is a go to for a forehand in the woods.

[@evanmeiners3943]

Banshee!!!

[@foilcladshadows]

I want to see you throw a mantis

[@jacobmcgeediscgolf5175]

What’s the intro song name? It’s so catchy lol

[@Tacocheesecake]

i got a thoughtspace votum as a mystery disc in a recent order from infinite. i cant wait for it to warm up so i can throw it

[@jobinkle7117]

Please throw the Falcor when you throw some distance drivers!

[@gmcclure]

Not sure what your current plan is, but I would recommend you split faster fairways into two videos. I think most people would split control driver (Undertaker, CD2, Anax, whatever) into a separate category from their very OS fairway (Firebird, Felon, Fireball, Scepter, many more). And you are so known for OS fairways that I think people will want to see a full video given to that slot.

[@brickchains1]

Eric is wearing shorts but the channel is called whale pants ???

[@wendymagee2457]

Eric you should try the Shu from Yikun discs. It's a mid that (for me) flies like a fairway.

[@jredneck1317]

QMS baby!

[@jredneck1317]

sorry , JLS then!

[@TheTjoconnor]

Yikun is actually making good discs. Problem is they have weird flight numbers that make no sense. I have a Twin Swords that's supposed to have -1 turn but it's way flippier than that

[@TheTjoconnor]

Oh he talked about it in the video. Good deal

[@elitaube3273]

Not sure if you know this but I'm pretty sure the exodus uses the old eagle L mold and the newer innova dark rebel uses the old fd mold

[@tillman40]

I throw F5s straighter than mid ranges

[@hunter_greene]

If the FX-3, Lots, and Anax aren't in the high-speed fairway video I don't think I can continue watching.

[@ridley6627]

Has the FX-3 even been released yet? 😂

[@jaredmonsmadiscgolf7347]

Everybody was kung-fu fighting..... HUIA!

[@Johnhwbaker]

13:45

[@potturecs]

Imagine not trying an Instinct smh

[@kevinbechteljr5612]

Very surprised there was no F5

[@Bartlett152]

Explorer is my favorite fairway

[@man0utoftime]

Wait, some of these are 8 speeds, but this is *slower* fairways? I thought 6-8 is fairway, so 6 would be slower (like a Leopard) and Teebird3 or TL3 would be faster. 9 or faster is control, i.e.: Thundy/Undertaker, Falk, no?

[@TherealPapaDogP]

I noticed that his x-step is opposite of most players

[@chrisrhome6638]

That Yikun Fui was dead straight

[@cmlasley]

The PP Passion is a modded Cyclone. Change my mind.

[@joemybro9104]

why don't you like throwing forehands w slower fairways

[@colepedrick5908]

If you aren't keeping that beautiful white Evader... I know someone who would love to dye and throw it 🙋‍♂️🙋‍♂️

[@Sethunruh4303]

For the Fu, that is in Phoenix plastic, fu is the mold, I carry three of them. A very good fairway driver. I am the admin of the Yikun fan page on Facebook if you want to check it out!! Glad to see Yikun being thrown!!!

[@shawndunnninjy]

Kastaplast Kaxe and Kaxe Z

[@jeffhansen5323]

Eagle and a leopard, leopard3 are my preference

[@starchyldd]

Eric, I concur with @Ben LaForge, the Crave is an amazing disc and a true work horse at a speed of 6.5.. check it out!! I also sent you a Facebook DM about lessons. Thanks!!

[@DarttheLegend]

millennium JLS. Also disappointed to not see a real Eagle in this vid. Technically you did throw an Eagle-L (Exodus) but the eagle is so versatile in different runs and plastics and levels of wear, more than teebirds in my opinion.

[@musicformedicine]

Exodus is just an Eagle-L. So I bag an Exodus and an Eagle. Bingo bango, then a Drift or Patriot for the turnover. Don't sleep on Streamline.....

[@tinydiscgolf]

Teebird3 isnt a teebird btw. I think you should know that

[@JoshJackson13]

I don't understand why you don't want the crave and or relay I've tried a lot of those disc and the relay and crave are so much better and last video the pyro is so much better

[@calebwhittemore2322]

Stalker all day

[@gamingnoob4417]

I personally bag a Westside Seer, Beat in Gold Line Explorer, Jen Allen Teebird, two different Big Z Trackers, a Discraft Heat, and a Felon for my fairways

[@johnshepherd6925]

Jesus...your bag must weigh a ton!!! 🤣😂🤣

[@gamingnoob4417]

Not really, I just mainly throw mids and fairways. I think I only have three distance drivers in my bag

[@johnshepherd6925]

@@gamingnoob4417 ahh...that makes more sense 😂

[@johnshepherd6925]

Also, it's strange that 9 speed discs are considered fairways now. When I started playing they were the big distance drivers 😂

[@gamingnoob4417]

@@johnshepherd6925 yeah I started playing last year so a 9 speed is my distance driver backhand and for forehand I use a Mamba 😂

[@Rome.Strife]

Really think you should give a look at the 11x Eagles I’ve thrown a wide variety of those 7 speeds and I just can’t get away from it.

[@dramajdk]

seems to me the passion did a better job on the turnover and it's incredibly versatile but you tend to lean towards the infinite molds.. I wonder why! hah but then again I throw mostly discraft so we're probably both a little biased lol both great discs. been loving the videos Eric!

[@austinrush1473]

I love this series but I hate that I want to go buy discs that look cash

[@Ayiu623]

Votum flight numbers don't match what's advertised anywhere else.

[@WhalePants]

Yeah, to me it flies 7 5 -1 3. Flight numbers aren’t law, they are to just be a very small guidance of how a disc might fly.

[@Ayiu623]

@@WhalePants Makes sense. Thanks Eric, I actually just got the Exodus in today because of this video!

[@CorwinDG]

NO MVP/AXIOM? WHACK!

[@WhalePants]

I’ll refer back to my throwing putters where I speak VERY HIGHLY of the Envy.

[@CorwinDG]

@@WhalePants haha yes but mvp/axiom makes very very good slow Fairways as well, Crave, Volt, and Relay. no love lost :/

[@captainnemo314]

Huia is pronounced "Hue-ya" - Kiwi

[@tonyg1011]

"slower" starts with an 8..okay.

[@Shmodizz]

I know you’re a pro but keep your arm down you’ll get so much more speed. Also the kaxe and kaxeZ. Very very straight like an FD

[@hscrugby13]

Gosh Eric, could you be less informative? Please, it's really a bit much how excellent your insight into so many different discs is.

[@murphyd8205]

Am I the only one that can’t stand him licking his hand on every throw? That’s just so gross what can that even help with

[@Donaldstoner]

I just don't understand why your backhand form is like that. Most of the pros agree that the disc should stay still and you should move around it. You move it all over and then try to align everything at the last minute. Sure you generate power but it can't be consistent for angles and lines.