Building the CHEAPEST 12 core 2013 Mac Pro!

The quad core trashcan Mac Pro from 2013 is not good. It's overpriced and underpowered, there are a dozen Macs you can buy that offer better performance and value. But today w'ere going to try a new perspective. I already bought the cheapest trash can 2013 Mac Pro on eBay, but today we're going to use it to build the cheapest 12 core Mac Pro! The Intel Xeon E5-2697 V2 is a much more capable process and it may just save the trashcan from complete obscurity. In this video I'll go through the upgrade process for upgrading the CPU in a 2013 Mac Pro.
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[@aashmediaproductions2799]

It’s hard to believe it’s already been 7 years since 2013

[@MrRogue-rb3rm]

AASH media group It’s hard to believe it‘s already been 6 years since 2014

[@kadelarson2535]

I feel old now.

[@vrius3335]

Why tf does everybody on KZbin have this profile pic?

[@loreaver3882]

VriusCSGO cause it’s a meme

[@gjmob]

Its crazy, its a year since 2019!

[@maf3695]

Just when I thought I was out. You’ve dragged me back in. Lol I went down a rabbit hole a while back upgrading PCs macs and gaming consoles. Which I was done with. And then came you KZbin channel 🤔😢🤓

[@OnderTARIM]

I actually think the design and inside look so good and luxurious. Apple might released this design as Mac non-pro with mainstream Intel cpu and a single amd gpu. So, it would be between Mac Mini and Mac Pro.

[@MichaelSidneyTimpson]

I was hoping they would make a new mid-grade affordable based on something similar to this design. A lot of us already have monitors and keyboards and just want a partially upgradable (ram, ssd) mac that we can get at an affordable price. Mac Pro Mini? Mac Mini Pro?

[@enda0man]

Nope

[@RichardSilvius]

@@MichaelSidneyTimpson I'd buy it in two seconds.

[@padlocktails26]

I was thinking the same - Just call it the Mac. Amd GPU, possible after burner card and whatever the current intel chip is. All I/O would be thunderbolt 3. I’d buy it!!

[@charlessale409]

the g4 cube was this exact concept/price point/market and was a huge failure

[@renesakata1737]

I just bought a Mac Pro 2013 for 150 bucks in perfect condition. Another 35 for the 12C Xeon and I am a happy camper… Crazy how quick depreciation is.

[@ridgero]

A good time to buy it on eBay right now, there are so many.Bought a 6 Core / D500, upgraded it to 64 GB RAM, 12 Cores -> I paid a total of 1300 Euro

[@jameo3606]

I’m not going to lie, I thought it would be more of a pain to disassemble it.

[@wyldslanerail]

Indeed, while a bit complicated the modular nature of the product still makes it seem pretty easy to do.

[@jaimeduncan6167]

it's not a big deal for someone with basic HW skills. It seems today childer do not disamble stuff, like we use to do. It could be that everithing is glued, so your set of basic tools your grampa buy for you wont work (is toxic mascullinity buying a toolset for boys? I know is ok to but tools for girls). The only issue is the thermals and the non standard GPU form factor, so one can't get new GPUs for it. I knew it will fail because of the thermals.

[@bamber119]

TBH isn't that part of the fun?

[@alliejr]

Jameo360 Agreed. I'm not sure it's more difficult to disassemble than any of the iMacs from the last 12 years. In fact, I'm sure it's easier. The modern Mac Mini is not so easy to disassemble either.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

They do appear that way. I am glad it’s a little bit easier.

[@zaaajac]

I know it’s basically useless computer in terms of long term usage but technically it’s a masterpiece IMO. Internal design is absolutely incredible!

[@ewolam]

Buy it just because the design is fantastic.

[@louierfeliz]

I got this computer when it was brand new. And it's been rock solid for all my video and picture editing. That's over 7 years...thats pretty good for long term. In my opinion. I'm about to future proof this thing now with the 12 core and egpu.

[@blu3h4t]

this is apples kiss to linux :D

[@cliffordduhh45]

@@louierfelizmy late 2012 Mac mini just died, I’m “upgrading” across to a Mac Pro that’s pretty much just as old. Can’t wait!

[@MichaelSidneyTimpson]

Thanks for not crapping on my trashcan for once! I am about to upgrade my 6-core to 12, and since I live in Asia I can just pay a shop to do the installation $20. Can you please show the benefits of using various eGPUs with various cards to see what would be a cost effective upgrade in that area? Us previous owners of trashcans would thoroughly appreciate it! I also would like for you to demonstrate the various SSD upgrade options. What I love also is that I have 64GB ram and I can run several virtualizations currently without any performance hit. I find it faster to run windows in emulation on my trashcan than actually using my various windows devices. And I always love how quiet it is!

[@TravisLohmannMusic]

Still rocking my 8 core Mac Pro 2013 with 64GB of ram; loving it still!

[@WarrenHyde]

I’m running that Mac Pro, still with quad core, but dual FirePro D700s, 64gb ram and 2tb SSD. It still runs very well, but its good to know I can significantly boost it with a 12 core. Thanks for the fantastic instructional on how to upgrade! Oh yeah... I wouldn’t trade it for anything. I love the look and it sits snugly behind my display making a quiet whir at the busiest of times.

[@charleskimble]

Could you do a comparison of a maxed out 6,1 vs. a maxed out 5,1? Comparing both price and performance. TIA

[@djperu]

Charles Kimble and Luke I would love to see thid

[@benhoward9372]

@@djperu Same

[@Slywooftwo]

I've got a firmware flashed 4,1 to 5,1 with dual x5680's / 128gb RAM / GTX 1070 if he needs benchmarks

[@djperu]

T A he’s talking about specs on a 2009 Mac Pro

[@renderbaron]

In terms of Cinebenh R20 a Mac Pro 5.1 with 12 cores at 3.46 (2 x Xeon 5690) scores at around 3400 points, while the 12core Mac Pro 6.1 is around 3200 points. While the MP 5.1 is much more expandabel than the 6.1 I´d prefer this classic Mac Pro. But sadly Catalina officially doesnt support the 5.1anymore...

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Your results surprised me a little bit. I was interested in these for a long time and still marvel over them. Also I am being surprised more and more by architecture changes. I didn’t realize the improvements Intel/AMD make underneath. If all we focus on is Geekbench, Cinebench, gaming, etc... then newer PCs aren’t as attractive. That’s my .02 and am open to others inputs.

[@tojamateo]

How do you not have more subscribers, I've been watching your videos for a while now and your improvement is exponential! Keep it up.

[@aajeev]

Love your channel for doing this. I love seeing someone making the effort to upgrade these machines.

[@Mrhoaf]

Here's another scenario for you: I use a 6-core trashcan at work. So, for $200 I can get improved FCP performance and make the machine useful for a couple more years instead of buying a new machine. Maybe I'll pick up a 32GB RAM kit for it while I'm at it...

[@King31395]

Glad to see you finally explore one of these cylinder Macs as a 12-core.

[@MmmMmmGood17]

This was pretty interesting to see the architecture of this computer, thanks for the video!

[@perge_music]

I upped my 3.5GHz 6-core CPU to the same 12-core 2.7GHz in my trash can (D500, 64GB RAM). I use mine for music production with Logic X, given the reduction in core speed it quite often felt quite a bit slower to use than it did before as many plugins are still only single core capable

[@VDJ4500]

I’m glad you’ve mentioned this. I guess i’ll just stick to my 8-core, 3GHz then. Would you please let me know if upgrading from 32GB Ram would be recommended? If you did? I use Logic X as well..

[@perge_music]

@@VDJ4500 the boost from 32 to 64 was less noticeable than going from 16 to 32 but it did help, swapping the SSD for a faster drive made more of an impact though.

[@ChrisProuse]

Oy, I hear ya - I delidded my 2015 iMac’s i7 CPU and replaced it with a custom copper IHS to improve the thermals... and the most frustrating part of the entire process was putting the heat sink / retention screws back together, lol. Great video - really enjoying your channel! 👍

[@Alex-or9gd]

Imagine this with the newer amd chips... decent processor and good integrated graphcs in a small package like that is just wow

[@TheVadnay]

Imagine Apple silicon.

[@Techable-com]

Nice video Luke! We just purchased 20 of these 3.5GHz i7 6-core models with 32GB RAM. Didn't realize it was that easy to upgrade the CPU (I mean relatively easy).

[@ruffprophetproductions]

I remember when you were just upgrading 2011 MacBook pros. Happy to see you at this point, Luke

[@officialsimonharris]

The main downside is the age and graphics - the age is not a specification / the graphics? unless you are a gamer or editing video the graphics are more than adequate, I produce music and it runs Logic superbly and the thing you call the 'Trashcan' (a very negative term) has is great connectivity, the 6 thunderbolt ports across 3 separate buses and an HDMI and digital and analog audio I/O and 4 USB ports, it's expensive to buy now (so it has retained it's value) but I already have mine (with the D700 cards, 6 core and I may upgrade it to 12 core) so the current price is not an issue, it runs cool, does not over heat and is rock solid with Logic. People buy computers to use them in the real world, not to just run benchmark tests. One other thing, the reason I chose a 6 core is because the processor is faster (3.5) than the 12 core (2.8) so are the extra 6 processors worth slowing down the computer for . . . . I suppose it depends if you need throughput of faster processing or rendering power which a slower computer is OK for . . .

[@danielortman439]

So I had been using a MacBook Pro Retina 15" late 2013 model for about 6 years, until I needed to replace the battery just the the other day. I always said the once I needed to do that, I would upgrade to a 2013 Mac Pro and give my MacBook to my daughter. The reason that I wanted the 2013 Mac Pro is that I don't need a laptop and my home office set up includes two 30" Apple Cinenma Displays and a rotated 23" Apple Cinema display that is virtical between the two 30", all three us Thunderbolt. I absolutely love my monitors, and this is why I needed the Mac Pro. In order to run these monitors without further investment in adapters/cables etc., I need Thunderbolt 2. It has been a major upgrade for me to have six Thunderbot 2 ports as I have the three monitors and a Thunderbolt Focsrite Clarrete interface for music recording. Now I have everything connected at once, which is just awesome for me. In addition, I purchased the base Quad Core model for $1100 and just installed the 12 Core referred to in this video for $170. So for $1270 out the door, I have the 12 core model with 48 gigs of ram. So I think it does come down to your set up and particular needs. For me and my love affair with vintage Apple Cinema displays and my Thunderbolt display, this computer is a dream both from a cost standpoint as well as the fact that it is blazing fast for me compared to what I was using before. Plenty fast! Anyway, just a quick story there. Loved this video as it helped me to go down the road of upgrading the processor which was not too difficult and well worth it in the end.

4:00 Costa Rica representing ⚡ excellent video Luke ⚡

Bobby Brady yeah, sure 🌚

[@midleno8364]

Bobby Brady Damn why you gotta get this toxic this quick

[@danieldiaz8681]

I love your videos Luke!!! They look super professional!! And always have a hook! Keep it up!!!

[@thetrader7613]

Daniel Diaz why so many ! Marks

[@olitesla5891]

@@thetrader7613 😂

[@christianleonardotalarico7080]

Thank you so much for this review and tutorial, Luke! It is very usefull for those like myself that love this so unique model and still us it for... Practically everything from music creation to edition and Post... So amazing this Mac is still usefull in the battlefied after so many years...💪🏻

[@zmimgo]

twenty-two seconds late but a big improvement though

[@andrewharvey3694]

I recently bought one of these too and it was still sealed in the box from Apple. It's also the 4 core model, but it's really not that bad of a CPU. The single thread performance is much better than the 12 core you installed. Mine scored 863 for single core on Geekbench 5. The 12 core CPU is only best for applications that can utilize multiple cores. I think the 8 and 10 core CPUs offer a better balance of performance. I plan to go with the 8 core E5-1680 v2. Some people choose the E5-2667 v2, but the thermal requirements for that CPU aren't a good match for the Mac Pro. The 10 core E5-2690 v2 would also be a good choice. It has better single core performance than the 12 core and almost as good multi core performance. Also, I suggest wearing an anti-static bracelet when working on the computer. It would also be best to use the specialized tools from Apple and follow their instructions made for technicians or have an authorized Apple service provider perform the CPU installation.

[@David-dx5wz]

How much did you pay for it if you don’t mind me asking

[@louierfeliz]

this tutorial was by far one of the best I've ever seen. I upgraded my macpro with no problems. thanks brother.

[@apusista]

You have created what is undoubtedly the best "sound meets style" computer. That design was never going to be practical but what a looker!! And I'm no Apple fan, to put it mildly! Greedy company with great products! Way to go! GREAT video!! 👍🏽😃

[@lonster3000]

The one feature you didn’t mention and which it’s hard to put a price tag on is just the design and style of the machine. Some people hate it but I think is hands down the most gorgeous computer I’ve ever seen. I keep watching the prices drop on eBay, at some point I will probably give in and pick one up.

[@Pixeltrainer]

It looks kind of like a miniature glory hole from Lake Berryessa.

[@TonyisToking]

These would be a great choice for a musician or audio technician on a budget. Silent and plenty powerful. A base model would probably suffice with a RAM upgrade. Really makes me want one, haha.

[@Cryo837]

Still running Logic (plus videos/photos/etc.) on my 2013 4 Core/32GB "trash can". My audio interface is the UA Apollo Twin Quad plus a bunch of their plugs. Very happy with it..still.

[@AB-ub9nd]

So I noticed some quirks on the Mac Pro 2013. If it has a background task running, say Plex media server. It goes to sleep, but when it does this the fan doesn’t work. So I come back in the room a couple of hours later and notice that it’s getting quite hot. I also see an amber light coming out of the base. As soon as I wake it up, the fan kicks in and he temps drop from 80+ to 40ish. This explains why some mornings I notice that it’s completely turned off. I have istat pro running and I can see the temperature Curves constantly increasing and the fan being zero. I basically have it so it doesn’t sleep anymore and have appropriate fan curves.

[@palicar]

Strip it down and use the case for something else like a homemade egpu or just set it on a shelf as decor.

Some FCPX comparison will be nice to see, thanks👍🏻

[@gabeberry1118]

I have the base 4 core 2013 Mac Pro. I have had it for 6 years and it still runs very well if you ask me. But.... it is just recently been showing it's age. This upgrade REALLY makes sense for someone like me. Excellent idea!

[@jsking306]

It was fun watching you do the upgrade. Thanks for another great video.

[@akkuless]

Good stuff again! One thing you could do is do win 10 bootcamp and test some gaming.

[@Thebrainymonkey]

Seriously? My 12 core CPU, 128Gb RAM and new SSD for my old mac pro arrived yesterday. Just waiting to finish my current job on it before upgrading.

[@musiHX1985]

i would love to see you building a hackintosh.

[@Willeexd1337]

musiHX1985 same

[@silvia_here]

He is onto it, look up old workstation a few videos back

[@believingintheblood8540]

I would love to see him realize that a piece if fruit is shite and overpriced.

[@OskarBravo]

Same, I want to see him put together a hackintosh.

[@jimmypainter3273]

I lived the Hackintosh HELL for years till I just decided to just do "USED" Mac Pro (4.1 and 5.1).

[@meandmyEV]

It is wild how much these have depreciated in 3 years since this video. I just bought a 6 core trash can Mac Pro with 64 Gb of RAM for $240 and now the same processor you installed sells for $28! I realize this is now a 10 year old machine but it is significantly less expensive than a used 2019 i9 MacBook Pro.

[@claytonberg721]

Yup, with low effort you can buy it now for $275 the same computer he's talking about today, I'm sure if you found a private seller it would be around $200 at this point. It's a pretty good option if you need a cheap secondary windows machine...

[@Neptik]

me looking at one on ebay for under 200 with the upgraded chip priced near 30 bucks all on ebay. crazy what 2 years did.

[@nizarreghai]

Luke "back to back to back" Miani

[@Mrpoulenc1899]

A very well thought out video, considered and balanced, like the careful and well explained disassembly, the tidy placement of all parts to show what was done, the commentary was very interesting indeed, the only minor flaw was having music playing whilst there was commentary, it is distractig to what you are saying, even though it is quiet, i was distracted from what would have otherwise been a near perfect video. with thanks and appreciation. Simon.

[@insertfamilyfriendlynamehere]

Today I am upgrading my Mac Pro to a 12 core with this guide. Exact same Mac, but 32GB RAM, and 256GB SSD. Wish me luck!

[@petar2525]

This mac is a masterpiece, all this Chips cooling with only one Fan on the top!

[@FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur]

Can you revisit this Mac pro? To see if the latest OS of Mac can take advantage of these dual graphic processors?

[@andrew8638]

2024 - I picked up both 64GB of RAM and 12C for $50 USD. Also got a nice deal on a dual D700 model for $300. Crazy how cheap these things are!

[@datenimperator]

I used to own a trashcan Mac like this. Loved the stoic IO power it provided, while being absolutely cool in the best sense of the word. Had a LaCie disk beneath it which drove me nuts, because it was louder than the Mac. Not a bad machine at all.

[@ErikS-]

A second hand 3.7Ghz quad core cpu for only 20 bucks is still a great deal in 2022. You could really make some nice things with that cpu! For some simple application, I already need to pay 20 bucks for some 300 MHz STMicroelectronics CPU!

[@volkswatson]

I just bought 2 12 core cpus and maxed memory for my 2013 Mac pros. I’m excited to see them work. Currently running 6 cores and 32 gb. Hoping to squeeze a few more years out of them!

[@Wesleyastonphotography]

Thanks for the help, did this last night to mine.

[@Andy-pu2iv]

There seems to be a good bit of "Form over Function" with this generation of Mac.

[@d1namis]

@Luke Miani you could use Silicon Oil for the Fan, that would make it like new.

[@Fettupwithyou]

That’s wild how much the price dropped . I just bought one for $350 on eBay right now.

[@EdgyShooter]

The missing G on the RAM really threw me, I thought it came with 1GB for a minute 😅 7:20

[@BrianStephensOfficial]

I picked up a 12 Core trash can with 64 GB RAM, a 2TB HD and the midgrade video card last year for $2K and it was the best investment I could've made for my recording studio (audio production mainly). I'm often encouraging people to grab these refeurbs instead of a new, tricked out Mac Mini or that money pit of a new Mac Pro.

[@stevie68a]

Apple should have made a clear lucite cover for this, because the insides are beautiful. Plus, it would no longer look like a trash can.

[@carlstanford7607]

It’s a beautiful piece of design and unique. I think it will always be in demand by collectors

[@stinkleaf]

Unpractical. Unless you mean sculpturally.

[@jasonlast7091]

Such a shame that the trash can analogy stuck (but yes I use it too). The design of this machine is masterful. This would be the perfect envelope for a kitted out balls to the walls Apple silicon machine.

[@NormanF62]

I can see only one situation to get an upgraded 12 core trashcan Mac: you’re short on space and to fit a small desktop computer on your desk. If that’s too much, go for the quad core Mac Mini. Its even smaller and is a better value.

[@RobertBullock]

I"m considering the 10 core because single core ops are a little faster and isn't that much slower in multicore. It's the sweet spot a lot of people say and I agree.

[@herbertherbert3909]

I am glad I found your videos. I just spent 90 minutes and plugged in my Darth Cylinder and it wouldn’t boot....Ahhh, I needed to remove my new 2terabyte ssd and reinstall the original SSD with the OS. Restarted. Booted up. Powered down. Installed the new 2terabyte drive....rebooted. Working Great. Thank you for this video

[@JohnGMeadows]

I like the old folding camera in the background of some shots! (I am also into vintage film cameras :-) )

[@Garrettdx1988]

Then, the M1 Mac Mini was announced. I’d still almost rather have one of these though.

[@rlink1991]

Just fyi, an M.2 drive is not always nvme. I feel like on that machine, youd only be able to get an m.2 adapter for a sata ssd, not nvme as it wasnt a standard when the mac was created.

[@rjkral]

You literally have to disintegrate the machine to get to that cpu!! Such a step backwards (or something) from the user friendly design before it. Yeah I get that it’s kinda beautiful but maybe I’m STILL in shock at the design of this, needing components upgraded etc in my line of work

[@user-ds2fp5ix4z]

Every helpful video,now I also want to upgrade my Mac Pro too.

[@vinniemcgheesr.5294]

LM glad you showed me this, I ended up getting a Mac Mini, thanks for sharing

[@caseyjones8507]

The thing that gets overlooked on a lot of machines like this one and the others you mentioned toward the end of the video, 2018 i7 Mac mini etc, that seem to not have an apparent user or purpose, is that these are EXCELLENT audio machines for music producers, mix engineers etc. We're always going to add a 3rd party audio interface/sound card anyway, so processor speed and RAM are most important. I personally chose the Mac mini for this. Found a good deal on the base i7 model for $999 brand new, did the RAM upgrade to 64GB, and bought a T7 for storage. $1400 later and I have an audio screamer!

[@TheJOE174]

If you were a professional you wouldn’t get something this old right?

[@caseyjones8507]

@@TheJOE174 I know guys still running 2010 Mac Pro's so definitely!

[@alejandroooow]

Am I the only one who likes the design? It’s nice they thought on doing something different other than the shitty rectangular and boring computers other companies were making, and the fact how powerful it is (considering how small it is), makes it even better.

[@SkaterStimm]

You could pull the PCI-e extender out and run a external graphics card from the PCI-e bus.

[@boriscervanti8892]

if you connect with an eGPU(external GPU) case with display card like Radeon 5700 XT chips, your 2013-Mac pro will perform much much better (triple times) then just change the CPU.

[@macguru9999]

I upgraded mine as well. Definitely worth it. I used the 12 core cpu too

[@elrid]

Can you compare 12-core Mac Pro 6.1 with 12-core, maxed out 5.1? For just the numbers, I happen to have one (with Radeon VII installed), can run any test you want

[@trespo]

Gotta love 16 bytes of ram paired with a 12 core monster

[@choboutube]

My 6 core MP2013 is quiet most of time, like now. The fan will blast when I'm doing stuff like Quicktime screenrecording, which I didn't think was that intensive.

[@choboutube]

Oh, and the 128G RAM option is only an option if you accept the RAM running at 1066MHz. My machine has the D700's which are still not up to much compared to even the last gen AMD/NVIDIA. I bought it for the TB2 ports as I have several last gen OWC thunderbays. One thing I hate about my machine is that the IO connections are super sensitive - I could literally just breathe on the cables at the back and drives would disconnect. It's been back to Apple for a check up and IO board replacement but it's still the same.

[@0741921]

couldn't hear the mac fan running over my MacBook taking off

[@ShadesOfTech]

I am in the small portion of people that can make good use of this. Bought a base Mac Pro 6.1 last month and upgraded to 12 core to use it for FCPx video editing for my channel. I would love to see an egpu setup to see if it’s worth

[@Mrdonfirth]

Excellent Video. I'm curious through, other than looking good in Bench Marks. What can it do that it couldn't do before? What does it do better?

[@NavinBetamax]

It gets to live with a New Owner.....Lol !

[@Bob_Betty]

I wonder how this would compare now

[@GearZenChannel]

I know you probably know this, but the Mac 5,1 runs cooler, is nipping at the heels of the trash can on CPU (2x3.46ghz) and kills it on GPU with an RX580. Add in that it can be had cheaper and is much easier to upgrade, and the trashcan really doesn't make sense as a used Mac purchase.

[@GearZenChannel]

T A I am editing RAW video on mine, running Logic, and learning compositing, so my upgrades made sense. And my guilty pleasure is playing Fortnite. I can run mostly high settings, but not epic. Maybe running 48Gb Ram instead of 64 would improve things.....

[@workhardforit]

Great vid but bad job with the thermal paste application.

[@silvia_here]

Please compare its video capabilities to anything modern, especially cheap. E.g. built-in Mac mini / MPB13 graphics or base MBP15 / iMac graphics.

[@patmusic111]

I've got 6 core MacPro and It's good for music and video editing even in 2023

[@RobertBullock]

I was able to score a 4 core/16gb/1tb/D300 machine that had some cosmetic issues on the case with a 1 year warranty add-on for around $800. Once I unload my cMP 5,1 I think it'll be pretty cheap. I just didn't want to fiddle with hacking on the 5,1 and I don't do pro level work so the GPU isn't as important to me. Can always eGPU that issue.

[@AlexandreLollini]

This is a pretty nice upgrade from a fw8 quad i7 mini. I still thing a modern mac should adopt a trashcan or cube shape to have one cpu and one gpu to be better than a mini but cheaper than a mac pro. and then you will have a ... MAC.

[@rufusprime99]

Now I'm confused. Apple said it screwed up with this thermal architecture, yet you get good performance. I always thought those were wicked cool too. I am bummed they dumped the architecture.

[@ewolam]

Waiting for D700 to come down the price.

[@WWPTV]

So 1 year later this is still relevant because hey we don't ball like that yet. I priced my Mac Pro 7,1 at $16.5K with the future-proof bells. This is not that. This is a decent choice over M1 Mac Mini + eGPU ~$3800. And even if you go this route you are still $1200 less than the M1 Mac Mini route. Sorry, but these are the specs I have looked determinedly to get away from IO read-write hell on the PC. Mac Pro should cost no more than $2000. Mine is coming in at $1200, with a $250 upgrade for CPU, 64GB RAM D300 (might change this later), and an eGPU. So less than $2400 with peripherals, you have a decent machine for the next several years. And that should edit 1080 footage for years to come. With that $1200 saved I can even get a Mac Book. Personally, I liked the design and always did. Now that most of my software is Cloud/Subscription-based, it is finally economically viable to switch. The only things that concern me are switching External HDDs to Mac and Fonts.

[@kjvisual7]

If you already have a trashcan MacPro, upgrading the CPU makes a lot of sense. At least you can get another 2 years out of it.

[@mietekpropshighfive1970]

I really want to see this Mac maxed out

[@szerbi207]

7:20 there's a mistake in RAN units - it's 16 Bytes 😂. But still, I love your videos.

[@vincentdanopoulos]

Szerbi there‘s a mistake in your comment- its RAN 😂. But still, I love your comment.

[@springbok4015]

VCNT There’s a mistake in your comment - it’s its 😂. But still, I love your cement.

[@CorbisVids]

SpringBok01 There‘s a mistake in your cement - it‘s comment. But still, I love your moment.

[@nicholashoi3155]

@@CorbisVids There‘s a mistake in you're moment- it‘s comment 😂. But still, I love your comment.

[@samvhell9104]

@@nicholashoi3155 There's a mistake in your comment, it's you're 😅 But steel, I love your comment

[@mxsailor1]

Bought mine in 2013- 4 core. Did the 12 core upgrade 6 months ago, added RX-590 eGPU 2 months ago. Added 1TB name last month. Still the only Mac I use. Surprised by the numbers you get... and pleased. Apple lost me on the $6K+ Mac Pro. Can't justify the expense. Apple needs to release a Pro version of the Mini.

[@ErikS-]

8:40 - one remark... An eGPU makes no sense since this mac pro has "only" thunderbolt 2. And an eGPU requires thunderbolt 3.0...

[@Cinefilo_Celuloide]

Hello, I have a question for you, I recently purchased a Mac Pro "Apple Mac Pro ME253LL/A 4-Core Xeon E5-1620v2 3.7 12GB 256GB (Late-2013) MG7251" and my question is, can i put 128 gb RAM without any problem to this Mac Pro thanks

[@thaddeus2447]

i would say e5 2697 V2 for 170$ is quite expensive, currently e5 2678v3 which is haswell goes for around 100eur and it's 12 core 24 threads, with turbo boost mod it will stay at 3.3ghz all core even on cheapest chinese x99 :) but ofc there is no x99 in this trashcan

[@TheShaggy1966]

I know this is an old thread but this seems like a kick azz developer box for doing typical app dev. It runs the latest OS and supports Xcode and since I need a cheap 3rd Mac dev systems I might go for it. Fun little upgrade project too.

[@jarule8065]

did you find any significant difference after the 12 core upgrade? i mean in real life? i didn't find much difference.

[@ropany]

do remind that on single core-applications, those that most people use on a daily basis, a Quad-core will be faster (3,7 GHz with turbo boost up to 3,9)