Building The Greatest Sports Team In History: All Blacks' Steve Hansen

Sir Steve Hansen famously led the All Blacks to victory during the 2015 Rugby World Cup as their head coach, a role he held from 2012 to 2019. This is a reflective, honest and vulnerable conversation with one of the world’s best coaches. Steve offers insights into his time with the All Blacks, sharing his experiences coaching the greatest rugby team in history, and the task of redefining the concept of progress while sitting at the top of the world rankings.
Jake, Damian and Steve delve into the strategic mindset he brings to coaching, sharing five thought-provoking questions he constantly asks himself and his team. They discuss his competitive and pride-driver alter-ego, Stanley, and how he has learnt to control this side of himself, offering valuable insights into the complexities of leadership. By prioritising simplicity, trust, and self-awareness, Steve explores how we can create a blueprint for high performance in any endeavour.;;
This episode was recorded at the Rugby Premiership Final at Twickenham, there may be some crowd noise in the background.
0:00 Trailer
0:19 Start
9:30 Player care
17:37 Pressure
23:56 Generation Z
28:53 Steve's Alter Ego
35:03 Judging success
39:23 Hating rules
43:13 Dealing with toxicity
47:07 Steve's sadness
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[@viktorsidnjenko4734]

Rugby is pure art. I was 2line representation of Serbia. Got injured my spine in the game with England. So honored and fighter for life. All blacks forever.🖤

[@yaboi5509]

107 games, 93 wins, 10 losses and 4 draws. That is astounding

[@davecollins3969]

2015 All Blacks were the greatest team ever assembled on a rugby field and coached by the greatest coach of all time in my opinion. A pleasure to watch them play. Great interview!

[@iamnutty8471]

if they introduced the 3 year rule is 2011 how many NZ players would be left?

[@petelosuaniu]

Legendary coach. I’ve actually taken his insight and applied them to my job in my life.

[@brucestening7964]

Outstanding interview, on many levels. As a lifelong All Blacks supporter, despite having lived abroad for half a century, I was deeply interested in what made the ABs so successful, especially under Steve Hansen’s leadership. As a PhD in behavioural science and a professor whose mission is the personal development of those with whom I work (I won’t describe them as students since, as Steve pointed out, we are all students in this process), I learned a lot. Not only a great coach, but a first-class human being.

[@williamday8838]

What a coach. Man I miss the good old days of the all blacks.

[@drisszyani3497]

With old playbook and incompetent assistant attack clown 🤡 foster , all blacks lost in semi finale vs England in 2019.

[@mvubu6823]

You can't retire a heard of 80 + test caps with a decade together, and expect them to keep the levels.

[@NuXta]

Those days will always come back, because the foundation has been there for a long time.

[@richardscanlan3419]

Shows what you know.Those days will never come back because the foundation i.e club/provincial rugby has all but been destroyed. We now pick our players from the trash that is soup rugby.And that does not develop good test players@@NuXta

[@yaboi5509]

He’s always come across as a tough no nonsense coach that doesn’t accept anything less than winning and winning in style but it’s so good to see the human side of one of the greatest coaches sport has ever produced

[@carolgrigg3778]

Watching this amazing man takes me back to my childhood. My brother Des shines through his son and l know he and his mother would burst with pride at the place he holds as a human being. Steve was a darling little boy and as already stated became an amazing man.

[@jasonrichardson2950]

This is absolutely outstanding. Up there with the best podcasts I've watched/heard. Aside from the exceptional content (this is quite literally a masterclass in how to run a high-performance team...from establishing 'buy-in' to cultural change, through to the exacting standards required for marginal gains; Dan Carter's 2% weight loss), the tone of the discussion is brilliant. Jake and Damian excel in giving guests 'space', and this is the result; an exceptional, intimate conversation with one of the world's most authentic and successful leaders.

[@Euclides287]

The 2015 All Blacks were a joy to watch!

[@gertvanniekerk46]

Great interview, perfectly presented with a Great man, Coach and mentor! Highly regarded and respected by South African rugby fraternity and Publick-Pity he and his All Blacks was responsible for many a nervous breakdown, overindulgence of KWV Brandy and biltong in SA! True story, Captured Cuban brigadier to SA general in Angolan war. "You fought many battles in SA including beating the english three times, against Germany twice, Korea and now beating Cuba and the Warsaw pact, who do you respectfully fear?" SA General, "New Zeeland" Cuban. "New Zeeland Why" SA General. "They have the All-Black rugby players AND Coaching team"!

[@garypatterson9593]

As a high performance sales coach there is some absolute gold in this video. If you're in business this is very transferable. Real enjoyed and past on to others. Thanks Steve 👍

[@samgavidi4342]

A journey into the mind of one of the World's best High Performance coach. Brilliant! For such a quality and in-depth content, as we say in Fiji 🇫🇯 Vinaka Vakalevu. 👏

[@thisarfingai]

Gentlemen, that was the best interview I have ever watched. Your line of questioning and your approach was absolutely spot-on. Hansen is a tough cookie, I have watched and read a lot of his interviews, none have been as enthralling as this. BRAVO.

[@zanebutler8528]

agree. the well thought out questions are the best iv heard

[@malanpapenfus6667]

A Huge Steve Hansen/All Black fan. He always kept mental fortitude and composure. 2011-2015 best rugby ever! The Vince Lombardi of Rugby.

[@leecooper7631]

This could be your best podcast yet! And I’ve listened to them all! Fantastic questions and Steve was class personified! So open and honest. Really enjoyed this chat and as always I have so much to take away from this. Excellent job high performance

[@Belzrox]

Steve is the MAN, straight shooter....love it :)

[@geraldjeewoonarain1141]

wow, what an unbelievable man. Well done for incredible interview

[@TheMichelleMermaid]

Thank you for this!!! The most profound interviews I have ever seen; definitely has changed my life. Wow

[@jrtmonson]

Love this series - and a massive fan of Steve

[@LiveitLoveitSellit]

Amazing podcast - what a great listen. I learnt so much and got clarification on things I sometimes doubt 😊

[@rickeyshah9802]

Excellent interview

[@dB_Zanoyolo]

Wow, what an awesome conversation.

[@pietiebeyers5237]

Excellent! 👏🙏

[@mierypesado6740]

Appreciated more than anything the intense vulnerability it took to share the concept of 'Stanley' - the easily enraged alter-ego that I think a lot of us men have, and hate ourselves for. Ultimately it comes from some trauma, flooding our bodies with adrenaline and putting us into fight or flight; useful sometimes, but often times destructive to those we love most

[@yeuhuanlai6573]

Such an awesome interview and so much wisdom for leadership and life in general

[@JacoJohan46664]

His goal was to be "the greatest sports team in history". The way he said that in such a matter of fact way makes you think "yeah fair enough, seems realistic".

[@kobusdutoitbosman6240]

worth its weight incalculably ~ just super brilliant, honest and CLEAR as daylight in simplicity : a working plan with built-in ‘what-ifs’ provision MAGICAL ‼️🥂🔥👊

[@GeorgeMacDonald-zj1dv]

Brilliant!

[@garrymack]

Great interview guys.

[@matthewmurphy3273]

Amazing insight into Life

[@chrisblack5789]

Love that he's giving this masterclass underneath a Scotland shirt, great product placement Steve, I like to think he's chosen to put this there as we're his 2nd team!

[@topdogs87]

Great interview

[@andrewsema359]

Great interview on High Performance. Would you interview Rassie Erasmus the Springbok Coach. Would really like to know his background and how he coached the Boks to the World Cup. Thanks and by the way a great series.❤

[@mitchellatkins9701]

heaps of wisdom there

[@Samoanhulk24]

Unreal podcast gentleman

[@tseporamorobi9801]

Thank you

[@izaak5472]

Sir* Steve Hansen

[@TheReflectiveCoachPodcast]

Such a fantastic episode. Took me just over 2 hours to listen to it with the stop start and note taking throughout. Really enjoyed this one and took much away as always. Thank you and keep them coming! Would love to have Gordon Ramsay on the podcast! He'd be a real one to listen to for sure. Top guests on a top podcast! Keep them coming both! Wonderful work! Wonderful episode.

[@kobusdutoitbosman6240]

Magnificent contribution : one of the very best thus far this RWC. You guyz should spend much more time with this remarkable, no nonsense New Zealander…he has infinite power, wisdom to contribute : in thinking in mindset and in winning attitude ~ keeping things simple, attending to the ‘little things’, and those which you cán control as a player, coach, administrator. • SUPER programme, thank you : dó turn this into a Series, will you? beste ex ZA.

[@kemosabe4195]

40:04 "It's like pulling teeth out of a chicken" classic 😂 What a great man. Did anyone find out what the 3rd word was his family challenged him to say?

[@gurudialsingh8463]

Steve you ve been A Master beyond anyone's guess . Things u ve done no doubt shows that great passion you had for ABs . Was a bit disappointed with the loss in semis in RWC 2019 .. The Spirit for the Kiwis was that AB s were the Team of the Tournament . It's widely spoken that t2 factors downed ABs . .First was that ABs as a Team didn't have a plan B riding rough high waves against England . Second was may b the restructuring in the Team may have contributed greatly in the result . Shud AB s have won that n truly so they deserved to win your image wud have rippled ten fold specially when you were departing . History wudve been carved . Doesn't matter you've done well . God bless .

[@keithcook9100]

this it totally awesome...!

[@paulsonn1308]

Richie McCaw next please!

[@HighPerformancePodcast]

he would so good wouldnt he!

[@garypatterson9593]

​@@HighPerformancePodcast yes he would be! Or DC...

[@maxfortuin5359]

Legend coache 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🇿🇦❤️🏉

[@morrisanderson818]

From Steve to Fozzie what a comedown,and the results show's it,We Also need a new NZRFU board Hurry up,024 ,

[@d.j.z.j]

Gilbert enoka is amazing

[@Drdee1]

40:26 From the world of international field hockey. The Japanese women's team never used team referrals and missed out on opportunities. Coaches from overseas discovered that this was perceived as questioning the on field umpire's decision and was therefore disrespectful. A few years later, after some gaijin coaching and the same team were making very shrewd use of their referrals including a couple again GB (unfortunately). Kaizen.

[@user-yp1jg7nu3w]

Love the common sense reference as it has always been my approach to life and rugby.

[@siaf9281]

He’s a legend mate knight him

[@garypatterson9593]

Pretty sure they have already...

[@user-bd8fx3ip5g]

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. How good is Steve! Great interview too. But what was the 3rd word? 😂 SpongeBob, pineapple and?

[@gregbooth1551]

This is so bloody awesome..no rules, just expectations. That emotion about his family was incredible, and so real. Sir Shag take a bow.

[@MambaLols]

‘You dont get 20 years for murder do ya’ that hit me deep 😢

[@Michael-wp2bp]

Royal Gregory by Holy Fuck was the first song i ever got high to 😂 that must be more than 15 years ago, i also remember seeing them at a festival that year or the next, and dancing my ass off,at the back of the tent because i was drunk as fuck and all over the place and didnt wana bump into anyone, had a great time 😂 Great memories

[@julianalderson3938]

Love hansen dont think we have fallin back. Just think other teams have improved alot.

[@gerryfrancis3350]

AND he had the worlds best sprinter in Nature Strip - jammy bugger

[@keleniengaluafe2600]

❤❤NEW ZEALAND 🇳🇿 has been blessed with the most gifted rugby players in the world 🌎,,,WORLD CUP 🥤 SHOULD OPENLY MAKE ALL THE BEST RUGBY PLAYERS AVAILABLE TO THEIR OWN COUNTRY!TO SEE THE WORLD CUP,,WE NEED TO SEE THE BEST EXHIBIT THEIR TALENTS IN THE HIGHEST LEVEL!!!LEARN FROM THE OLYMPIC AND THE SOCCER,,RUGBY LEAGUE 🏉!!!GET RID OF THE LAW THAT STOP PLAYERS FROM PLAYING TO THEIR OWN NATION!!MUCH LOVE AND RESPECT TO NZ,,,AND ALL OTHERS!

[@SHRWM]

Just remember this guy snubbed Shane Williams... We don't always perform to our best, but we can learn and improve

[@koko-yi5uv]

🤘🏾

[@matai2437]

Aron Penny Jamie Joseph coached my two brothers I eeling with Dave Proctor at Collins Meads Stan Meads Kevin Borivitch was scary very quick to growl I shore sheep at Collins Flagons and they had one thing in common the best discipline when the big guys lose it they got hammered having a good leader that everyone respects he is the man to follow winners is a journey for everyone on and off the field my family all respect the All Blacks they pretty good themselves 😊 Greg Townsend my school buddy Ian Smith Frank Jim Kearny Otago is very different to The Kuiti going to Rosy Grradys betting on the All Blacks free drink all night That is a good way to have a beer Never had any fights watching Rugby 😊

[@westywest1003]

Te kuiti?

[@queyoung754]

But with his success can anyone please explain why he isn't coaching anymore

[@camwells9726]

After 20 years he wanted to spend more time with his family

[@georgetanga6757]

He doesn't have to

[@Saiyan4eva]

Use to be not anymore as the current head coach's incompetence has been the undoing of the Abs legacy!

[@CaptainKuki]

Up the Wahs!

[@manyanojikijela3565]

I think he's talking about Bryce Lawrence 😂😅

[@pita3908]

can get any better than this....

[@baazaouihoussem2680]

I'm a regby fun 😊

[@olenetanu9226]

Basketball Team USA best sports team ever...

[@queyoung754]

Nah bro, stats don't lie... Basketball team of USA don't play as much international games as Rugby... Besides Germany just obliterated you recently and don't even try and say coz Lebron and other stars didn't play.

[@ngamanuhikairo9474]

the 2015 all black side was a con tinuation of Graham Henry an Wayne Smith sides ,,

[@julianalderson3938]

I think with money in the game so much. The team is not there. Team not just me'

[@rkaylor5769]

I love the ABs. No more dominant dynasty than the ‘11-‘15 squads. The ABs ARE world rugby with all due respect to the 4x champ Boks. The ABs will get 4.

[@mitch2924]

Just saying Boks owned the AB for 70 years. The AB have only dominated the Boks for 30 years. The AB would still be playing catch up if they played the same amount of games per year over those 70 years as they over these 30 years.

[@rkaylor5769]

@@mitch2924 I saw some messed up calls and an ABs win, but it didn’t pan out that way. I’m American. No dog in this fight, but the eye test and the results say the ABs own this thing. You have to play 80 to beat them. I’m not slagging off the Boks. They are world beaters, but they are not the ABs in terms of consistency. Even Rassie said that. By the way, they are going to take the Springbok away, I predict.

[@mitch2924]

@@rkaylor5769 over the past 30 - 35 years yes they have been (SA didn’t get to play much rugby before then due to the apartheid) but like I said if the same amount of games where played between 1921-1994 the Boks would have been miles ahead of the AB - more games between SA and the AB have been played over the past 30 years then the previous 70 years). What do you mean they taking the springboks away.

[@rkaylor5769]

@@mitch2924 That means little in 2023. It’s been ABs and it won’t change.

[@mitch2924]

@@rkaylor5769 well it hasn’t really considering the WC is really what gets built by teams over a 4 year period(trial and error)…the AB are winning round robins the Boks are winning WC’s, you can’t really justify it. The Boks have won 4 WC in the same time it took the AB to win 2 - the Boks have won 50% of WC attended, the only time the AB had that was at the 2nd WC cup. The Boks have also achieved thing the AB con only dream of…championship and WC in the same year (the great AB have never pulled that off) followed by a Lions series win, the AB drew after winning the WC, followed up with another WC. And I won’t be surprised if they the 1st team and possibly the only ever team to go back to back to back considering the rugby genius is hanging around. At the end of the day what would you rather have in your trophy cabinet a championship of WC?

[@nepiahemopo1702]

I've mixed thoughts. 2019 RWC was disappointing and he gets Knighted!😮 And here he is.....

[@nepiahemopo1702]

Footloose and fancy free, dishing out Knighthoods.😢😢😢

[@99tdc]

winningest coach for the best team ever playing the national sport not enough for you? hmm

[@morrisanderson818]

No one remember your wins, Only your losts

[@beatonthedonis]

Nonsense to call them the greatest sports team in history.

[@KekeHimona]

Vlog is called “BUILDING the greatest”

[@Simon.e364]

He’s a great man, and he’s a funny guy. But to be honest with you Mcaw and Dc set the standards in that team from 2007 onwards after the French loss in n the World Cup.. my grandma could have coached the team in this period and the results would be the same. Mcaw is the absolute Goat and the players that bought into it. Could you imagine Ritchie saying to Steve , I have a sore back I pulled a muscle at the captains run on the eve of one of the biggest games of your life?? That’s the culture at the Abs now compared to back then. McCaw played a World Cup final on a broken foot, because he pretty much told them he was alright. Now that’s a guy you wanna go to war with, you don’t need a coach , that man is the coach , godfather, mentor , ect ect ect. As soon as those players left it was all downhill. Hansen bailed out as the wheels were falling off. Foster inherited a team on its way down and on top of that he has no answers to the problems.

[@korocam9137]

A great NZ rugby coach… but he is partly to blame for where the All Blacks are now. He pushed really hard for Foster to take over as head coach after him, now here we are.

[@NathanAAASmith]

Yes and lost badly at 2019 wc without mccaw

[@richardscanlan3419]

No,he was overrated - that was McCaw's team that won in 2015.When all the greats retired,he didn't have the ability to reset the team. An average coach who,as you say,will be remembered for saddling the AB's with the most inept fool imaginable.And you have seen the results.

[@korocam9137]

@@richardscanlan3419 he won 2 world titles.

[@korocam9137]

@@NathanAAASmith Richie retired, after winning 2 in a row, back to back. Nothing more to prove.

[@richardscanlan3419]

He has that to his name,sure... but when you scratch beneath the surface,all is not what it seems.@@korocam9137

[@julianalderson3938]

Yer hes got it wrong to. But year gota be team. Dont agree. Back then ok now we need a team. Cos just do

[@julianalderson3938]

But do need something

[@Strokesider8]

The greatest sports team in history is the Man Utd team of the Ferguson era, the Chicago bulls of the Jordan era or the Spanish nation football team that won back to back European cup and World Cup. The all blacks compete in a very shallow pool of competitive teams internationally in a sport played seriously by barely a handful of countries. If that. The all blacks together with the springboks are the best rugby teams, conflating that with best team across all sports including genuine global sports is a bit ridiculous.

[@Katherine-mf7pk]

❤😂 🎉😢😮😅😊

[@theofilusbouwer3430]

Yeah we woz best team In history to find its equivalent you have to look to Lance Armstrong tour de France record plus Richie Mecaw knew how to cheat without getting caught 😂

[@ottavio2dr]

B.S.

[@mitch2924]

Just saying Boks owned the AB for 70 years. The AB have only dominated the Boks for 30 years since 1994. The AB would still be playing catch up if they played the same amount of games per year over those 70 years as they over these last 30 years.

[@KekeHimona]

Why do AllBlacks have more test wins if South Africa has allegedly dominated?

[@poerava]

Steve out here trying to sound like a psychologist and neuroscientist. lol. His style of engaging with players, was reflected in his comments about how his real buzz was in helping an athlete accomplish their goals, while knowing that if it wasn’t for him, they couldn’t accomplish it. That’s a terrible underpinning of coaching philosophy. This strategy reinforces the toxic culture of players not wanting to question the coach or give opposing ideas. A more healthy and effective approach would be to seek to instil a sense in a player that they can accomplish their goals with or without the coach. All blacks coaches that are on winning sides, get crowned as gods. All blacks coaches that are on losing sides get cast into hell. All while forgetting that good players make a good team. Many a winning have played with average coaches. I feel Hansen is one of those coaches. There is a toxic culture in NZ with players never talking back to coaches. Ever. Steve would do well to acknowledge that he had some of the best rugby players who ever played the game and he also had some of the best selectors, management and support team. A lot of players really didn’t like Steve. Gilbert Enoka probably deserves more credit for the all blacks success, than Steve. Half of these things Steve is saying, was developed by Gilbert.

[@fatehyabali]

F

[@mikespencer4922]

Blah blah blah..... where Hansons mastery comes in is his ability to coach a fine set of players in the fine art of the professional foul. Richie McCaw was his dux.

[@Me-ex7qg]

You're lacking intellect if that's what you got from this interview

[@pita3908]

geez go bck to soccer.

[@KingkongAGSOM]

Who cares 😂

[@RobRoyBoaz]

The All Blacks may be the greatest team in rugby history, but hardly in sports history !

[@ntlearning]

Steve Hansen should have retired before 2019. He stayed too long, and was unable to foresee the threat England posed at the Japan WC. It was such a predictable result which stained his great legacy.

[@bigboy5428]

Never in million years the greatest team. Looks at the bulls in the 90s or Man United in the 90s and early 00 or Liverpool in the 70s an 80s or NY Yankees etc. The ABs are a good team but they are not back to back champions.

[@fabmanly1070]

Rugby is not a major global sport, for every 1 player there’s 120 playing volleyball. But stop comparing any non international team with the AB’s. Especially any team out of that muppet show, the NBA. So now let’s look at the Major sports: Soccer/football. Badminton. Field Hockey. Volleyball. Basketball. What is the top Teams, male and female from those sports who have dominated internationally for the longest winning streak?

[@dimetilldeath]

Um, the All blacks were actually back-to-back champions from 2011-2015. The first and only time its happened so far in rugby world cup history. The Yankees have about an average of about 60% win ratio the all blacks have 77.21% going back to 1903. As for the "Bulls in the 90s" and "Liverpool in the 70s" Why do you have to add a decade? The all blacks have never lost to Scotland who are number 5 in the world and haven't lost to Wales in the 70s years, have a winning record against every rugby team. When was the last time you can say Liverpool never lost to the 5th ranked side in the Premier League?. When was the last time you can say the bulls haven't lost to a team in the NBA?

[@fishbarra4880]

Building the best rugby cheats should be the title. Don't worry it all coming out soon..soon they be called all craps.

[@hikanui281]

😂😂😂

[@hikanui281]

Barramundi

[@hikanui281]

WC finalists. How's Oz doing?

[@hikanui281]

Step up boi 😂

[@djk200808]

Dude farked up the all black brand.....panicked in perth....Barrett got a red....blamed it on Ben Smith and Reio ioane ......then got pumped by England 2019 WC. 3 peat was the goal for the all black brand...he failed big time. Silverlake deal would have been twice as much. Dont forget worst ab wc performance 2007 and just beating France without a coach and at home by one point....he was involved in that also.

[@noelnzl]

You're conveniently omitting winning what was probably the best World Cup final ever, in 2015 -- in style ! Back to back world champions. That's quite a legacy !

[@cdf2885]

muppet

[@pita3908]

yawn

[@drinkdrinkdrunk]

So for you only a 100% winning record would be OK or would you still complain if some of the wins weren't by enough of a margin. In the years he was head coach his team won a Rwc, 6 rugby championships, retained the bledisloe, beat the lions in 2017, won world rugby team of the year 6 times and he won world rugby coach of the year four times. His teams helped build the modern all black brand ffs.

[@KingkongAGSOM]

Winge winge yah minge 😂😂

[@martinharvey3990]

They're not the greatest sports team in history... The Australian Kangaroos are! Once again, Rugby League ignored.

[@lord7th207]

No one outside of Australasia and England even know wtf Rugby League even is 😂

[@naddanbb]

it's like calling an American football team the greatest sports team in the world

[@wellingtonian2009]

The rugby league world cup is made up of mostly artificial teams. For example how many of the players representing Lebanon, Greece and Italy were actually born in those countries? How many Lebanese, Greeks and Italians even knew the league world cup was on and their country was in it?

[@Me-ex7qg]

😂😂😂😂. The next best team are the kiwis and NZ only has one professional team

[@KingkongAGSOM]

Fuk the kangaroos 😂

[@claytonengelbrecht51]

Steve Hansen is no great😅he inherited the greatest ever team from Sir Graham Henry. He just kept the team together.

[@noelnzl]

He was a major part of building that great team with Graham Henry !!

[@richardscanlan3419]

No,he wasn't.That was Wayne Smith.@@noelnzl

[@Simon.e364]

Ritchie Mc caw , Dan Carter 👑 🐐 That’s all

[@noelnzl]

@@Simon.e364Ma'a Nonu, Sonny Bill Williams, Conrad Smith, Jerome Kaino, Aaron Smith, in his prime - shall I go on ?

[@noelnzl]

@@richardscanlan3419 I agree Wayne Smith was a huge, indispensable part of both World Cup wins - but sorry, to denigrate Steve Hansen's part in them too is churlish in my opinion Let's agree to disagree, ok ?

[@iamnutty8471]

redundant! S africa have tied the record surely, 2011 at home by 1 point against france doesnt qualify! so SA winning the most despite playing less RWC says something! and no i a not SA but 2015 squad would be hard to beat ever!