Building the MOST REALISTIC FPV Drone Simulator: An interview with Armand @veeyooh TRYP FPV

[@kandredfpv]

Just listening to the developer explaining what they discovered I knew right away I had to get this game. He described everything that has ever turned me off about FPV sims, but could not articulate. Amazing work guys, can't wait to try it.

[@mjodr]

I feel similar. Really makes me want to buy it.

[@mcbrite]

Same, I'm currently planning to build a drone, bought it INSTANTLY and started trying out how props and motors affect the quad... ;-)

[@Sugalime3D_FPV]

I wasn't a fan of TRYP before. But now I am. Congratulations to the TRYP team for this work.

[@PabloDeBiasi]

I just reinstalled it to try the new physics and the difference is mind boggling! NOW it feels like a real drone, this is literally a game changer! I just need a 3.5" freestyler and a 2.5" cinewhoop models inside the simulator to properly train, thanks a lot to the developers!

[@RecursionLabs]

If they add this I'd get it right away. VDrone has terrible 3.5" physics that feel extremely under-powered. This looks brilliant. Do you know if they allow for custom quads like putting in your own motor/prop physics data?

[@PabloDeBiasi]

@@RecursionLabs you can duplicate and edit the stock 5" models

[@jinraltao6805]

I've been a Liftoff fan since I started in FPV nearly 2 years now. Interestingly, I picked up TRYP just 2 days ago and noticed a huge difference in performance between the two FPV simulators. Liftoff was instrumental in helping me build up my reflexes. I've given alomost 10 hours (already) to TRYP and the physics alone has already helped me zero in on some bad habits, iron out a few stick inputs I've been sloppy with (because Liftoff is so forgiving). Of course, the visual treat in TRYP is appreciated. I will be spending a lot more time in this new sim. Chris, thanks for your contribution to this FPV hobby. Your attention to detail and how you break down technical material is so much appreaciated. Keep up the great work and nice job in this interview with Armand. I can see he also is excited about his work. Good job you two.

[@LucaMusetti]

Sorry, Chris 😊

[@maddercat]

I set up my quad eactly like i have the custom pids and it feels almost exactly the same, really cool. I always liked this sim for freestyle experimentation.

[@MrPashee]

Own this game for a year and I can say it's have realistic experience. Let's wish a luck to it's creators.

[@baggszilla]

Wow what a great SIM!! Thank you for your love of our hobby!

[@mcbrite]

Alright, you got me... Am planning build dream drone. Am use realistic physics to test change parts before spend real moneyz. Am happy at more prosperous remain! also drone perform superior fashion due simulation! Modest frugal price for provide golden value of happiness! Many Greetings from Munich, my dudes! PS: PLEASE use that stupid quote! 😀

[@OTRFlyer]

I tried this when I first heard about it a while back, but my ancient laptop couldn't cope. It seems like an awesome project though. It was supposed to have chasing sims and even skydiver chase, but like I said, I couldn't get it to work on my old laptop. I'm hoping to update that this year! Thanks for all your work in the hobby Chris! Love your tuning videos! I'm still trying to develop that skill as well, lol!

[@Petro_Bandera]

Great interview. This simulator is the best one I've flown in. It combines the best features of other simulators - the ability to create your own drones like in Liftoff, the option to play with PID settings, excellent graphics, presets for rates and PIDs. Additionally, it has its own unique advantages - visualization of PID curves, filter adjustments, the ability to adjust drone mass, physics tuning, and real current drones on the market. Please do not delete anything that is mentioned. Filters, PID curves, Betaflight settings - these are what make this simulator unique and truly interesting. Personally, I cannot consider a simulator a game if it doesn't allow for flexible drone customization because that's also part of the hobby. Sometimes, I find joy in spending hours tweaking PID settings and trying out different drones and configurations. Unfortunately, the flight recording feature isn't working yet, but I believe it's temporary. I'm eagerly awaiting new maps and features. Thanks to the developers for the best simulator, and to the video author for this interview.

[@nateteator3901]

I find simulators less realistic because I'm flying too fast with high throttle. I look forward to trying this with the battery voltage sag feature.

[@alreadystarted]

Just tried the new update, very impressed with the realism of the flight behavior.

[@Fly_High_FPV]

Big fan of Tryp, love the huge maps, and how easily you can repeat scenarios like car chases, sky divers, and more

[@mjodr]

This must be what LuGus got wrong in their flawed physics model. I mean, I guess everyone else got it wrong in their physics model, but instead of accept that their physics model is flawed, LuGus spends a ton of time defending it and telling everybody it's perfect and it's user error. I like the way Armand accepts the problems and tackles the challenge. This is pretty cool stuff. They cracked the code it seems.

[@pelvispresley]

So excited to try Tryp again! I learned how to fly on this simulator back when it didn't have physics and I would only focus on the races so I learned on 45 degree camera angle🤣 I've been using Liftoff now, but I've been waiting for this day!

[@jeffdughman9741]

just played it, its really coolbtobsee the direction they are heading towards, Its felt great but still meed alot of work, but man they are ao close now it crazy! Im so glad i bought this game and am looking forward to more of their work❤

[@flyingsrn]

very interesting talk! shows a bit of the complexity which simulators have to deal with. will give it a try, for sure

[@danielb.4205]

I was waiting for exactly this. Betaflight PID Tuning in a SIM to learn how it works. Really cool.

[@MrHeretic666]

Really awesome simulator I found this year! Already! And I feel it will be just greater over time.

[@oddeman3489]

It looks fantastic, a must have.

[@vladizaimov850]

I would like to try it , but it looks there is no version for Linux.

[@psymo_23]

Would love to see micro's in tryp!

[@ElMoroTV]

They did an amazing job 🎉

[@GarryFPV]

Tryp feels extremely unrealistic. There’s no feeling of momentum. Uncrashed and other sims are miles ahead simply because the quad doesn’t feel like it’s on rails 24/7. Anybody who has raced irl above the beginner level will feel what I’m describing. All in all, tryp feels like an arcade game. It’s the COD to hell let loose. The world of tanks to warthunder

[@urchinfpv]

Great interview! Going to grab the TRYP sim. Looking forward to trying it out.

[@robgroove]

I like where this is going.

[@newfc12]

Great stuff, very interesting, bought a copy yesterday.

[@AliBFPV]

Velocidrone has been using betaflight pid loop for years. For sure not the first lol

[@MadfishFPV]

Yep, Ashley is a local Hampshire lad to me and had the pleasure to meet him back when I was flying helicopters. Remember when he flew one of my helis to see if it was setup right. He's a really nice fella. Phoenix was the best sim for 3D helicopter sims.

[@AliBFPV]

@@MadfishFPV so you know hook rec for flying? Won’t forget the time that ash brought one of his 3d helis to our drone race then was showing off his skills but crashed it into a flag 🤣 destroyed the heli and chopped the flag in half lol.

[@MadfishFPV]

@@AliBFPV can't remember which recreation sports hall we flew at when Ash flew my heli. Was either my Trex 450 or Blade 400. I remember going over to Calshot on a few occasions, and went one even after a session to a pub with Matt Clarke, Ash, Trev Burley and a few others

[@MadfishFPV]

@@AliBFPV it just dawned on my I got the names wrong. It was Matt Lodge and Richie Clarke, some how I ended up combining the names 🤣

[@geometerfpv2804]

Not really. Velocidrone doesn't fly like a real quad at all. The PID controls don't feel like they do much (and I am very experienced with black box, so I know what I am looking for). You don't get bobbles on punch out in velocidrone. You do in tryp. It's really not the same thing. Having a set of controls that look like the Beta flight PID page and literally using the beta flight PID loop are two different things.

[@magpieeuc4846]

The is only one true FPV sim its Velocidrone, its been out for almost 10 years and nobody comes close to its physics, all pro pilots will tell you this. Don't waste your time and money on anything else, unless your just looking for a "game" and not a true training sim. Great interview though guy is are next level smart.

[@wavesummit]

Wonder if you could in theory have tryp fpv read in a black box log, and playback the flight, would be kinda neat, obviously wouldn't work well with a world of obstacles.

[@mjodr]

In theory that would definitely be possible. This all reminds me of when I was experimenting with betaflight as "SITL" (software in the loop). I was essentially running a virtual flight controller. They just made it super integrated, streamlined and correct with great graphics. My previous tries of doing that were not smooth.

[@gbj6581]

Have all the changes he has been talking about been implemented already in the sim, or are these still coming in a future big update?

[@getcass]

Great interview and insight to how this game is built... Thanks.. Off to steam I go ...

[@timlong7289]

Filters are going to be necessary for a realistic sim because they introduce phase shift and delay and the simulation will not be realistic without that. If a quad in the game is to feel like a quad in the real world, I think this part of the dynamics will need to be included.

[@TimeFadesMemoryLasts]

Filters are included in Tryp

[@soar_fpv]

I’ve tried most of the sims available, and only like Velocidrone. Ill give Tryp another try

[@LucaMusetti]

Hi Ross, is there a way I can contact You and Armand directly? There is a project I would like I would like to talk to you about.

[@devakv1335]

Good Stuff!! Do you know how to connect Dji goggles 2 to the Tryp sim?

[@Tomcat2_kanal]

I just bought the simulator and going to try it 😉

[@lambo_drives]

Fantastic interview 👍🏼

[@TrungPhanViet]

Nice, Does it support DJI controller v1, I don't have time to play my FPV for a year.

[@jumpstartfpv]

What is the solution to the issue being mentioned at 53:00 ? I have the same issue on my Smart35

[@RecursionLabs]

Tune. You can dive a 3.5" without issue now.

[@LostCloudx4]

Great advancements but its still not there. I play Tyrp occasionally but Liftoff is still my go to. I'm hoping the next update with hone the physics more

[@MettaZen]

drone building simulator when?

[@rodramsey1771]

Does this actually work on pc? I downloaded it a few months ago and all it did was report a fatal error and never booted up.

[@marc_frank]

if you start the download at the same time as this video, they will be finished at the same time 😅

[@damianwyczakowski2491]

Very good looking sim with good physics but Why drone Goes down like a rock and do the strange things when I dont even touch stick ends? Thats whats happening after changeing rates in betaflight on my own rates Before this everything was ok

[@unRealityFPV]

Awesome video! 3 videos in one day is awesome for us - but bad for the algorithm! There are ideal release schedules to optimize views

[@nickvledder]

Nice!

[@UknowPark]

😍😍😍

[@jamesmason7124]

Looks like it won't run on my military laptop with 2.7ghz i5, 16gb RAM, 1tb SSD and Windows 10, so the search continues

[@vikas4685]

RUNS LIKE SHIT ON 3050. ZERO OPTIMIZATION. HOW UNCRASHED IS RUNNING SMOOTHLY(MAX GRAPHICS) ON THE SAME?

[@zakaroonetwork777]

Please Forward. I recently Bought a 12gb AMD GPU, to enhance my TYRP experience. The Sim Crashes after 5 Minets and says somthing about Nvidia driver not Present. So now I have to get an RTX that’s twice the price. 😢

[@jeevandewee]

still way too floaty for me

[@MrAnatolyvizitiu]

Tried it, could not start a single race. No matter what I did with my radio, would get red "DISQUALIFIED" flashing in the middle of the screen. Why on earth would someone make starting a race so impossibly difficult. Takes forever to load, you have to stare at "Charging Lipos" screen for minutes, and I have decent video card. Had to return the game, bloated and non functional product. I think if they charge for the product it has to be polished and optimized, otherwise make it free of charge for testing and debugging purposes.

[@kerrymillar4981]

There’s loads of bugs in it the gates dont always register when you fly right thought the middle of them and ive never been able to get some of the tracks to load but over all its good ive got master medials on most of the tracks but 1 of the tracks just wont work

[@Fly_High_FPV]

Which track doesnt work? Ive not seen any bugs, but it uses alot of resources

[@kerrymillar4981]

i just up dated and temple gaps works now on the new update @@Fly_High_FPV

[@migraines99]

seem a bit buggy at the moment....

[@user-rs8zg8ey2b]

I limit my yaw rotation to a low 1400d/s, to keep the yaw pop to an acceptable level. Roll and pitch I prefer 1950 to tame the gyro output invention bug from triggering hyper spin of death.

[@CharlyFLute]

Is it just me or game feels way less realistic after update?

[@MadfishFPV]

It feels differently. If anything I felt before the update that Tryp seemed to run on rails, and sims like Uncrashed less so. After the update you get seem to get more course drift due to mass.

[@DroningOnFPV]

i must be the only one that cannot stand the physics, robotic and stiff feeling when turning, custom quads just shake violently no matter how i tune them, the nazgul 5 inch teeters vertically when you throttle up and its AWFUL to fly. I cant see how everyone's having a blast with it 🤣 each to their own I guess.

[@walkershot92]

It is not realistic feeling

[@TheSnow520lee]

Stop working on Mac M1 quite a while ago. They never fix it. Money wasted