Building the Toyota 4A-GE!

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@snap_oversteer
@snap_oversteer Жыл бұрын
Always nice to see videos on the good old 4A! I'm currently building 4A-GZE for my AW11 MR2, parts are harder to come by especially in Europe, but MRP has great stuff indeed and I've already bought couple of things from them.
@marcushughan5668
@marcushughan5668 Жыл бұрын
I was about to type basically this exact comment! Except from NZ
@nigelsmith7366
@nigelsmith7366 Жыл бұрын
Once I have sorted our my parts I have a couple of intake parts for the 4agze if anyone is interested
@hoed99
@hoed99 Жыл бұрын
Could you please share MRP website .. Thanks a lot
@coreysmith5397
@coreysmith5397 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Mike for sharing your knowledge on the 4A-GE! I'd love to know more about building a 20v silvertop or blacktop too! (And 7A-GE etc!) A lot of this knowledge is lost with the forums going down. Thanks for preserving it for the next generation who loves these cars/motors.
@htholden3559
@htholden3559 Жыл бұрын
I ran a 20v in my mk 2 Ford Escort panel van 20 years ago and I'm about to restore it. Would love a build video on the 20v too.
@ToreDL87
@ToreDL87 3 ай бұрын
The forums are still up though, incl the aussie ae86dc one. The problem is lazy people turning to fb groups (which are more for sharing final results) and asking questions there, with no way to store or archive most of the knowledge. When I point them to forums they go "huh", they literally don't know what a forum is or what it's for, one guy even asked me if forums was a, and I quote "Rome thing" 🤣
@CoreysZ32
@CoreysZ32 3 ай бұрын
​@@ToreDL87 rome thing 😂 Was referring to club4ag original forums being lost and not all the site was backed up sadly. Lots of sites are down when hunting for PDFs too nowdays 😢
@ciatangallaghe2485
@ciatangallaghe2485 Жыл бұрын
This dude is serious, if I win the lotto, I'm going to him
@Carlos.Rivera
@Carlos.Rivera Жыл бұрын
Better go with the guy at Tec Art who are the responsible of keeping up Keiichi Tsuchiya AE86
@juddy953
@juddy953 Жыл бұрын
Or just buy a 2zz-ge engine and be the same as a built 4age
@omardsm2323
@omardsm2323 Жыл бұрын
@@Carlos.Rivera Not better than motoiq
@spaceboycandy3734
@spaceboycandy3734 Жыл бұрын
XD 100% In Him
@Legend-lc9bv
@Legend-lc9bv Жыл бұрын
@@juddy953 exactly !!! 190 hp right out the box
@intergalactic808
@intergalactic808 Жыл бұрын
Back in the day I had a Geo Prizim GSI with a 4AGE. I remember putting a on a set of dual Mikuni 44mm carbs on it. Sounded so good!
@Boonexctf
@Boonexctf Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your naturally aspirated engine builds! Thank you for your help last year with advice for a clutch and flywheel for my AP1 S2000. I have really enjoyed the ACT clutch and flywheel. So nice having an ultra lightweight billet flywheel.
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@Videoswithsoarin
@Videoswithsoarin Жыл бұрын
ive got a AE92 coupe which i manual swapped and put a blue top 4AGE from an 86 MR2. i rebuilt the 4AGE before hand, new pistons, bored 82mm, decked with the TRD 0.8mm head gasket, HKS 272 intake and exhaust on adjustable cam pulleys, stand alone ignition (no distributor) and two weber DCOE 40s and straight piped with stainless headers plus a few sort of reliability mods like the MRP timing belt stabilizer and all ARP bolts on the bottom end and the stronger 20v oil pump. it really takes off, i put 91-93 octane (north america) and have the ignition timing up just before knock. great acceleration with no delay!
@JaydenET
@JaydenET Жыл бұрын
The knowledge and experience in these videos humbles me every time, I hope the tuning industry isn’t dead by the time I learn
@herschelsinglee
@herschelsinglee Жыл бұрын
The 4AGE 20V blacktop motor was the epitome of the 4AGE series of motors. I loved my 20V back in the day.
@thomaschristopherwhite9043
@thomaschristopherwhite9043 7 ай бұрын
Yup that the one. When that thing breaths at 9000 rpm it makes your spine tingle.
@colvinyenweiken1539
@colvinyenweiken1539 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou for the information...Im a 4AGE enthusiast from Sabah Malaysia...and this video is a refresh ...I have been playing this engine from the early model till the 20v blacktop
@preshandpereira4035
@preshandpereira4035 6 ай бұрын
yeshhhh fellow Malaysian!
@_jake70
@_jake70 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, lots of great info here. I would like to add that the issue with oil pumps themselves are in the early gen pumps with square edged gears, later pumps (silvertop 20v is considered the better option) are great off the shelf for majority of builds. The problem with breaking gears on the bigports pertains to oil Cavitation. The head only has an oil return in the centre of the head on the exhaust side. Under high rpm and cornering forces, oil tends to get trapped in the head for a little too long which effects the pickup volume at the sump. The smallport engine has addressed this with an additional oil drain from the rear of the head down to the block amongst other efficiency upgrades. The bigport has the provisions for these drain ports to be machined for fittings by a skilled tech.
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
We restrict the oil flow to the head down to about 2mm. This lubricates the valvetrain fine but prevents pumping all the oil to the top.
@Adrianzx
@Adrianzx Жыл бұрын
Even though I feel burns stainless X-Pipes are a tad expensive, this video hits all the right buttons for me. Toyota, nostalgia era, itbs...
@zeroyon4562
@zeroyon4562 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Hard to believe they’re a 40 year old design now! They sound so great, and were and still are a staple at every motorsport event in about any configuration you can imagine, as a 2A-GE for example. I have a soft spot for these (having owing 3 AE82 FX-GT and an AE85 with a 20v back in the day). They’re fragile alright, I’ve run bearings a few times in the bigport motors without the external head drain like the smallport has. Great to see NZ companies and guys like Garage 4age keeping them alive too.
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
It's hard to find core parts now days.
@bajanboyhood
@bajanboyhood Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/mabXoqN5ib2pepY
@mrcartease
@mrcartease Жыл бұрын
My first car was a Toyota Corolla Twin Cam (series 1) 86kw . Eventually got a bearing knock and I fitted a 100kw import series 3 engine, huge difference and I couldn’t break it 😂. Dave Repsold here in South Africa is a legend with these. Awesome videos man
@pav_nath
@pav_nath Жыл бұрын
Man, Mike just has an aura that promotes joy and happiness
@jvogler_art4708
@jvogler_art4708 10 ай бұрын
Crower engine parts are insane. My dad built a 65 stang with crower rods and high nickel boss block that revs to 8k rpm. Hope to build my own engine some day like he did. I’m 30 and making enough money to support myself but not much extra. Hope to someday have a fun car of my own.
@Rndmaniacs
@Rndmaniacs Жыл бұрын
I've seen 4A-GEs' of many flavours pushed to the outer limits in the NZ, Australian and South African tuning scene. Those guys swear by the 4A-GE motors. Great to see such a detailed analysis of this motor.
@philspaghet
@philspaghet Жыл бұрын
Man I loved this video! I owned an AE86 for 4 years (and I want back in one soon) and I love hearing the modern take on 4AGEs! Most of the info online are from 2006 which is probably outdated by now so I really appreciate this advice! If you have a chance I'd love to hear about 7AGE builds too!
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
We want to do a 7AGE video soon. Actually its probably going to be a 9AGE but the info is almost the same.
@philspaghet
@philspaghet Жыл бұрын
@@motoiq WHOOOAAA that's going to be even better! I can't wait to see it!
@Ep1cPvP
@Ep1cPvP Жыл бұрын
@@motoiq 9AGE🤌
@zelayaquintanilla8821
@zelayaquintanilla8821 Жыл бұрын
Yes 7AGE that is interesting, 4AGE blocks are getting rare
@mikemikeyee
@mikemikeyee Жыл бұрын
This is great. Oem stuff was good for back in the day builds (club4ag era). These days we have more and better tested stuff to use where old oem parts can take the backseat.
@andrewpadilla3325
@andrewpadilla3325 Жыл бұрын
I love this engine I remember when I was a kid at the Long Beach Grand Prix seeing this beauty in a Atlantic car with side draft carbs sounded so sweet
@sixhunt
@sixhunt Жыл бұрын
been buying 4ag parts from MRP for decades, so happy to see them mentioned on vids like these :)
@wolfmelonpan5858
@wolfmelonpan5858 Жыл бұрын
what is MRP?
@jacksonlin4934
@jacksonlin4934 Жыл бұрын
@@wolfmelonpan5858 Manon Racing Products, 4age parts manufacturer in New Zealand
@wolfmelonpan5858
@wolfmelonpan5858 Жыл бұрын
@@jacksonlin4934 thanks! a bummer they're in NZ, i live in the EU and i'd love to get my hands on a 4AGE or an AE86...
@Thechriskraft
@Thechriskraft Жыл бұрын
Hey now! Have an AW11 that I’ve bringing back to life with its 4age.
@dcwebb1
@dcwebb1 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely LOVE the 4age content! Really love your experience and expertise with these series of engines.
@Cha-KmaN
@Cha-KmaN Жыл бұрын
i am the proud owner of a toyota corolla ae86 1984 Euro edition Levin and i love my car and i have my 4AG 16v turbo
@amcezm0n3y47
@amcezm0n3y47 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. This is really great stuff and should be archived for future generations to know what a real tuner is.
@TitillatedGoat
@TitillatedGoat Жыл бұрын
i have a ae92 FXGT 1987. FwD but with a 20v blacktop swap. I LOVE a good 4age there quite neat
@feral4mr2
@feral4mr2 Жыл бұрын
Been playing with the 4ag's for 26 years now, such a awesome engine!!
@kenxiong6830
@kenxiong6830 Жыл бұрын
4AG is legendary. Hasselgren made some monsters for Formula Atlantic
@JuanPablo-zq9gd
@JuanPablo-zq9gd Жыл бұрын
4A-GE engine is the most memorable creation for Toyota.
@petergarcia8225
@petergarcia8225 Жыл бұрын
It's great for the beginner and novice builders. Great for it's generation.
@hawk1514
@hawk1514 11 ай бұрын
4age is extremely reliable. One of Toyota's best engine. Engine is definitely not weak. Got both 16 valve and 20 valve.
@motoiq
@motoiq 11 ай бұрын
sure if you leave it stock
@willnzsurf
@willnzsurf Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, a friend had a AE101G Corolla BZ touring wagon with a 5th gen, great little engines.👌
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@sushpants
@sushpants 9 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the FX16 call out! Great video and info.
@garagespooky8193
@garagespooky8193 Жыл бұрын
Moto IQ got the best information. You guys should have at least a million subs!!!! Aloha from Hawaii.
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
Hahaha we wish, the youtube would seems to like stupid car entertainment more than what we do.
@shhhdontshout
@shhhdontshout Жыл бұрын
Its 2023, and we are still stalking about 4ag. Long live 4ag!
@seblo8462
@seblo8462 4 ай бұрын
I felt old when he said "we are going old school with Apex Power FC" lol...that was state the art cutting edge tech back in my day haha
@kamperformance5281
@kamperformance5281 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Tech Info, The 7A-FE Block is 15mm taller and is a great choice for high revving 4A-GE builds and improves "Rod/Stroke ratio", 4A-GE Head bolts directly on the 7A-FE Block
@bajanboyhood
@bajanboyhood Жыл бұрын
Where did your read this?
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
MRP has all the parts to do it, its is sort of common knowledge. www.mrpltd.co.nz/product-category/automotive/4age-performance/
@kamperformance5281
@kamperformance5281 Жыл бұрын
@@bajanboyhood it's been on the internet forever... type 7A-GE engine
@Videoswithsoarin
@Videoswithsoarin Жыл бұрын
@@kamperformance5281 there also exists the 9AGE engine using 2ZZ bottom end in 7AGE setup
@tehmwakhasatube
@tehmwakhasatube Жыл бұрын
​@@Videoswithsoarin the idea was to use a 1ZZ crank in a 7AFE block (bored out to 83mm) with a 4AGE head... but it requires so much machining and stuffing around that it's not worth it and never has been. Re using a 2ZZ, the 2ZZ crank has less throw than a 7A crank, so it's not a valid path to the "mythical 9AGE". Please stop sharing bad information.
@39PSIOnTheDaily
@39PSIOnTheDaily Жыл бұрын
Mike?! Steve Neill here! Happy to see such a well-educated OG on YT in my recommendations!
@Gentleman1337
@Gentleman1337 Жыл бұрын
babe wake up new mike video dropped 💕
@LETerEATRenne
@LETerEATRenne 3 ай бұрын
Would love to see a 3sgte video. Love the video, killer information to digest while at work!
@SwitchFBproductions
@SwitchFBproductions 2 ай бұрын
Hey this is an awesome channel and great content! Very happy to view this sort of educational material and I hope to find more information like this. One day I hope to have friends like this IRL.
@jacksonlin4934
@jacksonlin4934 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making a video on the engine! I'll probably put in some of those parts later on (like the oil pump gears), but for now I think it'll be fine for now until I wanna take it to the next step👍 I always love learning more about these engines!
@salloroc20
@salloroc20 Жыл бұрын
The gears are an absolute necessity!
@jacksonlin4934
@jacksonlin4934 Жыл бұрын
@@salloroc20 Did some more research, I'll get it for the next time I do something big. My budget is a little slim though, still in school😅, I think I'll be ok for now though for street driving. don't wanna be one of those people who end up blowing the engine in a week :(
@ricepony33
@ricepony33 Жыл бұрын
Sushpants and Garage4age have great 4AGE content.
@firstielasty1162
@firstielasty1162 11 ай бұрын
Elsewhere in these comments, it is said that ""people put these in those 4wd Tercel wagons." That's true, I did it, but it is harder than you think. A 4age block will bolt right to the tercel trans, but there are other problems. The accessories are one..the different head and timing belt cover were a factor. Not too bad, though. The cooling system is a bit weird if your donor car is an mr2 (like mine), especially if using the larger mr2 radiator. The starter ended up being an mr2/Tercel hybrid, out of necessity. The tercel flywheel will not fit the 4ag crank (8 bolts vs 6) and the mr2 ring gear will not go in the tercel trans. I turned down the 4ag flywheel to accept the smaller ring gear. Used part of a bad 4ag crank as a mandrel. You must remove the ring gear from a tercel flywheel intact. They aren't sold separately. Now the mr2 clutch won't fit in the tercel trans. Almost, though. Grind/cut inside of bellhousing, it works. Fortunately, the input shaft splines match the mr2 disc. The tercel clutch cable interferes with the mr2 exhaust (now on the left). Tried many cables, I think the one that worked was from an old accord or prelude. I made a manifold, and ran it on gsxr-1100 carbs. Got them to work beautifully, like EFI. It even got good mileage. However, they are on the small side for a 1600 motor, and despite looking cool, it limited power at high rpm. The ignition used with the carbs was MSD with timing controls, as there was no ECU at this time. I then put the mr2 EFI on it. The manifold didn't fit under the hood...cut & weld that. The tercel fuel pump was engine driven, and low (carb) pressure. So..weld ring into tercel fuel tank and fab bracket for that, to use the stock mr2 pump. Make fuel lines. The throttle body points at the firewall now, requiring some ingenuity to connect it nicely to a large air filter.. The exhaust comes out the wrong side. Making a complete 2 1/4" exhaust for this was actually pretty hard..the unibody had room for a small exhaust only on the right side. The trans input shaft for the Tercel has a thin area, looks weak, but did not break, and I was abusive to it. The trans gear ratios were not well suited to the 4ag..you better rev it to 7500+/- rpm, or ot drops "off the cam" for a moment after an upshot. This made it either sort of slow, or moderately fast if you "whup on it". I estimated than mine may have been 150 hp, maybe. Wiseco pistons, head work, high compression, nice intake/exhaust. Stock cams. This did not make for a real fast car after a LOT of work- almost as a direct result of this, I now have an LS2 in a volvo wagon....I highly recommend this. 400 plus torquey, reliable hp..it's a blast. I think the volvo v8 swap was easier, and I made everything..engine & trans mounts, exhaust, driveshafts, etc. I have seen others who have claimed to do the 4AG tercel thing, but their pics showed only a long block in the car, clearly not running. Please comment if you have, or have seen another one. Definitely not as easy as it first appeared, I was tricked by the in-common "A" family engine. I drove it thousands of miles this way, my main car for a few years. Still have it, haven't run it for 10 yrs. It is red like Jesse Pinkman's of Breaking Bad. Haha maybe it's valuable! It is unique.
@SpecificationR
@SpecificationR Жыл бұрын
I love how you guys just have knowledge.
@Samtyo_Bazza
@Samtyo_Bazza Жыл бұрын
i build an 7A-GE. Immortal Engine, 7AFE Block with 4AgE head its a must !
@zappy7393
@zappy7393 Жыл бұрын
Please do a SR20VET break down video like these. Love the indepth analysis.
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
That is coming eventually. We are gonna do one for Martin's race car.
@RaddestDad
@RaddestDad Жыл бұрын
I just watched your LS build video. Great timing Mike and Moto IQ crew!
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@mistrphixit7484
@mistrphixit7484 Жыл бұрын
Im so glad I found your channel. A true car nerds dream!!!!!🤓
@LujinCustom
@LujinCustom Жыл бұрын
It’d be awesome if he’d talk more about other Toyota 4 cylinder engines. I’m looking to build a 3ZRFE
@iamgerry86
@iamgerry86 Жыл бұрын
Love the 4AG! Save the 16 valve!
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Жыл бұрын
2ZZ-GE gets me a tad more excited.
@seblo8462
@seblo8462 4 ай бұрын
2zz is definitely the modern 4ag lol
@zslemp
@zslemp Жыл бұрын
awesome video. i love the way a 4age sounds when its wound out and the formula atlantic 4age's are just unreal. would be cool to see you go through a toyota 2rz or 3rz build. i have seen a few with 4 digit power numbers with a stock block and crank. looks to be a solid platform.
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
That would be cool!
@TougeMonSter3
@TougeMonSter3 Жыл бұрын
More 4a/7age content please
@az_3kgt714
@az_3kgt714 Жыл бұрын
Love Na builds since people rarely do them anymore more. did an all-motor 6g72 with 13:1 compression and 272 cams with an LS intake adapted to the 6g72. With very similar built bottom end and built top end. Just a weird all-motor v6 build. lol
@Videoswithsoarin
@Videoswithsoarin Жыл бұрын
turbos are cool and all but NA engines have character to them. turbo seems like a cheap and dirty way to make power to me but to each their own
@svent9238
@svent9238 Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome, people tend to overlook the 6g7x series of motor but they put down some impressive numbers I’m in the process of building a 6g75 all motor for my ce lancer
@az_3kgt714
@az_3kgt714 Жыл бұрын
@@svent9238 my 6g72 is using some 6g75 parts and Gm LS parts. Mainly the 6g75 intake plenum adapter that lets you put on a holley efi intake hat from an Ls 😂
@az_3kgt714
@az_3kgt714 Жыл бұрын
@@svent9238 and bro the 6g72 has a killer bore×stroke ratio for a high rpm na build. 91.5mm bore and 76mm stroke. So a serious oversquare situation.
@svent9238
@svent9238 Жыл бұрын
@@az_3kgt714 I just subscribed to you channel bro, We didn’t get many 3000gt here in aus so will be pretty sweet to see someone build one.
@martzink
@martzink Жыл бұрын
Would be cool to see you talk about the Toyota 3S engine as well.
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
We just did a couple, we should have done a video!
@nigelsmith7366
@nigelsmith7366 Жыл бұрын
I said this exact thing last week 👍👍keep on putting 3s requests up bro
@dorkusamoungus
@dorkusamoungus Жыл бұрын
did you know these motors used to dominate Formula Atlantic in SCCA? i built quite a few cyl. heads back in the day.....shim over converted to shim under cam....always good vids !!!!!!!
@dorkusamoungus
@dorkusamoungus Жыл бұрын
280-290 NA 10,000+, 45/48 dcoe's
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
Well they were the spec homologated motor so they had no choice other than to dominate FA!
@dorkusamoungus
@dorkusamoungus Жыл бұрын
We used to call them flying hand grenades. If anything went wrong there was nothing left. There were a couple of other engines that slowly crept in and eventually took over obviously with SCCA releasing the rules a bit then. Then went back to the one engine rules. This is just what I saw at regional/National level in the southwest division…. And it was quite a few years ago… I tend to get rusty on my thoughts. Like always… enjoy your vids
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
They were really a shit engine, I felt the BDA was actually better. Then you put that flimsy block as a stressed member in an FA chassis, boom! You had to take them down, change the rod bearings and inspect everything after every weekend, change the crank every 3 weekends, usually by then the main caps were getting beat out of the registers. The Mazda that replaced it was a way better engine, too bad the formula died right after, I loved those cars.
@dorkusamoungus
@dorkusamoungus Жыл бұрын
Yes the BDA was a much better piece… I got a couple drives in the Alantic’s back in the 80/90’s. They were explosive!!!. I knew they were a little temperamental on longevity. I don’t remember any production motor being that strong. ( with comparable mods) that was a rich man’s class. I am definitely not arguing that vintage builds compared to today, there is no comparison…. Our sleeves and lighter weight pistons and better quality rods are quantum leaps over that stuff. I still think for what it was it was still impressive.. I know you feel like they were junk. It was a good level at its time. Nothing like today. Have a great evening!
@alexhise968
@alexhise968 Жыл бұрын
When I built my 7A I lucked out and got a Atlantic crankshaft and short course cams that and cp rods and pistons. We made a billet pan with the dry sump and mains all together. We made 228hp sadly it only lived 3 races
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
what happed to it?
@alexhise968
@alexhise968 Жыл бұрын
@@motoiq tire blew out on the car passing and took out the front end of Carlos's car and the engine snapped at the mid plate and it pinned the throttle open which killed #5 main and rod 4 before shutdown. Owner gave up
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
Wow what a freak accident.
@alexhise968
@alexhise968 Жыл бұрын
I think if I dig thru the basement I think I can find some pics. If I do I'll send pics to Mike
@axispowerdiesel
@axispowerdiesel Жыл бұрын
Mike could explain anything to me and I'd smile
@802Garage
@802Garage Жыл бұрын
Where is Driving 4 Answers?!
@vinceboyd7341
@vinceboyd7341 Жыл бұрын
love this stuff! do a video on 1JZGTE engines!
@jasonstranthon5183
@jasonstranthon5183 Жыл бұрын
Maybe we just got lucky but we ran 270kw in a turbo setup with a KE20 rolla with standard crank and block. The rest was all forged (ceramic coated & shot peened pistons) and head was well worked. Crank never died, tho we never stressed it too hard cept when at the runs which we pulled almost a 10sec pass without slicks (think was a mid 10) .....we got kicked off the track cos we didnt have a tailshaft loop or rollcage. (it was an ae92 red top motor so i guess was 3rd gen ? )
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
Turbo is easier on the engine than NA and drag racing is easier on the engine than track days!
@ericcoombs
@ericcoombs Жыл бұрын
i love 4A-G engines!!
@smithsfan425
@smithsfan425 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to hear about your time with TRD and working in the Formula Atlantic series and these 4age cars
@ManjiMachine
@ManjiMachine Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t expecting this one. ❤🔥
@riaanvision6299
@riaanvision6299 6 ай бұрын
Brother, I am from South Africa and have a few 4A-GE engines, I have one putting out 515HP on a stock crank and stock Series 2 rods and a stock head with no rev kit and is not flowed, only thing we did is stronger pistons that is it, never had any oil pump, crank, bearing and block issues what so ever. I am more that willing to share the build photos and dyno videos, at the moment our best time is 10.83sec on the 1/4mile
@motoiq
@motoiq 6 ай бұрын
If you run it for more than 10 seconds at a time it won't last very long. Also turbocharging stresses the engine less per hp than NA
@riaanvision6299
@riaanvision6299 6 ай бұрын
@@motoiq It has been holding up for over a year now, so I guess I am lucky lol, I did not mean to argue with you was just saying what mine is doing. 🙂
@riaanvision6299
@riaanvision6299 6 ай бұрын
@@motoiq Also, do you know how they do VVT conversion on the 16V? I have seen it before on @garage4age but cant seem to get ahold of them
@motoiq
@motoiq 6 ай бұрын
How high do you rev it?
@motoiq
@motoiq 6 ай бұрын
Not sure other than running a 20V head. I don't think there is a lash up of OEM parts that would make this simple.
@seanphilipcruz653
@seanphilipcruz653 Жыл бұрын
You got yourself a sub! Thanks for this!
@findtherightbeat
@findtherightbeat Жыл бұрын
High VE 81mm x 77.4mm FTW!! 🍻
@EmilioShack1982emilioRoman
@EmilioShack1982emilioRoman Жыл бұрын
Do an episode on the 20v 4AGE pls...
@TR.Pixels
@TR.Pixels Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video analysis of the MX5 B Series motors!
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
That is coming but down the road.
@thehighflyer99
@thehighflyer99 Жыл бұрын
I am building a really clean del sol at the moment and would love to see a how to build a Honda d series
@lavafish7660
@lavafish7660 Жыл бұрын
might hopefully be getting a Prizm GSi eventually, I'll probably leave it stock but if I get the itch, I could do something cool with it
@intraterrestrial69
@intraterrestrial69 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say the 116 hp was special my friend. Some Honda ZC engines did that in 87', and almost that even earlier on carbs. That's decent specific power, yes. Then there was the original VTEC 1.6. It could do 8 grand and 160hp in 89'. Honda had them beat. However, the 11k ability and sound of the 5 valve 4AG is something amazing that must be respected and recognized.
@gtb4
@gtb4 Жыл бұрын
Great information! Thank you for sharing.
@GunZTube1
@GunZTube1 Жыл бұрын
2zz next please
@DJToneRI
@DJToneRI Жыл бұрын
Don't sleep on the 4AG. My AW11 makes 620whp on a 1.6L 16V 4A. Stock crank. Not sure why he's saying they are weak
@tehmwakhasatube
@tehmwakhasatube Жыл бұрын
Lots of people claim they are weak, but the number of people who've thrown turbos on gzes and made 250-300kw with some injectors and ECU... I don't get the claim of weak.
@acescionti711
@acescionti711 2 ай бұрын
Folks clicking on the video are typically fans of the engine. And know better than to think its week. Group A and formula Atlantic motors etc Toyota used the engine in a lot of motor sport. They wouldn't have if the engine was week
@OKIMR2
@OKIMR2 7 ай бұрын
really cool video
@isaganibarry8201
@isaganibarry8201 Жыл бұрын
Please do a video like this for 2TGEU!!!!!
@TheOrdep1976
@TheOrdep1976 Жыл бұрын
ty
@BrianHeffron1
@BrianHeffron1 6 ай бұрын
Man I'd love to have you build a modest big port for my SCCA race car but I'm almost afraid to ask, bet it's not cheap!
@zactrimble4343
@zactrimble4343 Жыл бұрын
This video hopefully keep mrp making the crankshafts as they are looking to discontinue them in the future.
@amcezm0n3y47
@amcezm0n3y47 Жыл бұрын
would love to see a video on the new 86 engine the fa20d
@vance90640
@vance90640 Жыл бұрын
Mike, when I move home, I'm hiring you to help me re-build my 4AGs! -Vance😊
@Makeorbreak1
@Makeorbreak1 Жыл бұрын
I had 93 4agze with a turbo in an old corolla that was 172kw at the wheels and had the rev limit set to 8200rpm which was so reliable i put 80,000ks on it in the end the end the ring landings cracked due to a bad tune
@IMR_Seb
@IMR_Seb Жыл бұрын
I knows it not popular, but maybe an article or video on the vw 07K? In terms of short comings in the OE and ways to maximize performance
@matty_mccarthy
@matty_mccarthy Жыл бұрын
cant wait for a 4G63 build
@nunuland69
@nunuland69 Жыл бұрын
Great video, great information!! Awesome work!! Have you guys ever messed with 7ag builds?
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
About to build one soon, look for the video.
@nunuland69
@nunuland69 Жыл бұрын
@@motoiq subscribed my friend, looking forward to it!!
@boysinhonolulublue5956
@boysinhonolulublue5956 Жыл бұрын
Trying to get the project rolling on my 95 Corolla want to learn and swap it to 7age fwd monster
@sparkster_6087
@sparkster_6087 Жыл бұрын
FYI the 42mm cranks in these engines are good for stupid horsepower, PSI Racing has seen no problems with them going to 600whp. You only need to think about a stronger crank if you want to sustain 10k rpm for long periods or are throwing huge horsepower through the little 1.6. 42mm cranks were taken to 8400 rpm stock (rpm chosen by Toyota with general builds) once balanced they can keep higher. Typically the limiter of the engine is rods, rod bolts, or the sump turning so fast it cavitates or froths the oil. good video with pretty good summarization. A bit on the safe side but good info nonetheless.
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
You are right, forced induction and lower revs are actually easier on the crank and block until power levels get stupid. I should have said that this video is more NA focused.
@sparkster_6087
@sparkster_6087 Жыл бұрын
@@motoiq Ah, I took the information to generally. As an NA platform it definitely needs the extra strength. The 40mm cranks are definitely not up to the task, they or the rods tend to give out in even mild builds on early bigport engines when aroung that 160whp mark or earlier.
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
Yeah I found that 170 whp and not much more than 8k rpm was the safe limit with the small cranks.
@tommyboy1two
@tommyboy1two Жыл бұрын
Perfect video to see during my 5age build lol hks stroker for .1 more litre 😂 my 7a on the other hand that should make some power…. And my 9a…. It should be wild
@not12listen
@not12listen Жыл бұрын
Wow... I have a lot of years spent enjoying my AW11 with its 4AGE... Though, it certainly was not powerful, it was rev happy and was pure bliss at 6600rpm... It felt like my AW11 was floating on a road of silk. Any chance you could do a similar video for the 3SGE? :)
@madcyantist8243
@madcyantist8243 Жыл бұрын
Great informative video! My Redtop 86 has been sitting for 12 years with blown rings who knows what else. And family took precedence over trying to build my 20V Silvertop 13 years ago... I guess I should really get on it, HAHA.
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
Get on it before parts become even harder to get.
@scareyaf
@scareyaf Жыл бұрын
Awesome, informative video as usual. Wondering how the 7AFE block compares to the 4AGE? I may be wrong but I'm sure Tsuchiya runs a 7A block.
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
Taller deck, so room for 90mm stroke and a decently long rod for a resonable rod ratio.
@Videoswithsoarin
@Videoswithsoarin Жыл бұрын
if its a 7A block its likely a 7AGE hybrid engine or possibly a 9AGE hybrid. those engines use 4AGE heads and bottom end (9AGE uses 2ZZ bottom end) and 7AFE block.
@scareyaf
@scareyaf Жыл бұрын
@@Videoswithsoarin That's what I was referring too, IIRC Tsuchiya runs a 7A block with a 4AGE 20V BT head. Think he mentioned it was better for torque and strength.
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
Better rod ratio is possible and bigger journal diameters
@scareyaf
@scareyaf Жыл бұрын
@@motoiq Awesome, cheers for the further info!
@49S13
@49S13 Жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for Mike to spill all his knowledge on the SR20.
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
That's coming soonish.
@dasfahrer8187
@dasfahrer8187 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a Toyota 3URFE engine built out with turbos instead of the supercharger to see how much power those engines can reliably make.
@garetfitzpatrick2043
@garetfitzpatrick2043 Жыл бұрын
Please do how to build a 2uz fe
@CP2Ty
@CP2Ty Жыл бұрын
Craftsman right here
@nuqouvang3408
@nuqouvang3408 Жыл бұрын
Such soothing voice (like asmr) to listen for hours! Do you have an opinion on 3SGTE? I would like to see if your video will talk about building 3SGTE :D
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
Not yet but working on it.
@nigelsmith7366
@nigelsmith7366 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic... If you don't already know of Garage 4age YT channel you will really like it... A fellow kiwi guy runs the channel and has around 220hp out of his 4age
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
220 is pretty standard, a really well built one can be 230 plus.
@justinwilliams1333
@justinwilliams1333 Жыл бұрын
He’s pulling that at the wheels.
@nigelsmith7366
@nigelsmith7366 Жыл бұрын
@@justinwilliams1333 correct bro
@nigelsmith7366
@nigelsmith7366 Жыл бұрын
@@motoiq garage 4age's engine is also the 16v not 20v of the later mk's... I really like your videos though... Thanks for keeping them coming
@motoiq
@motoiq Жыл бұрын
I know that, did I say otherwise by mistake?
@justinmiller1191
@justinmiller1191 Жыл бұрын
We need some VW/Audi 1.8t content.
@RaddestDad
@RaddestDad Жыл бұрын
I see an S30 with a VQ35DE in the background…
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