PSYCHOTIC Edgerunners Fan Theories That Made Me Lose Brain Cells

[@RobCrowley85]

David almost beat Adam Sandler?? I must have missed that episode 🤣

[@jimnorris3276]

Apparently it's something tubers call him. We do need an adam Sandler mod for him the waterboy Adam smasher. Reeeee!

[@Mandaloran317]

Adam Smasher killed David but was actually ordered to capture him. Smasher domed him as a sign of respect for David giving him a good fight. Killing him was a mercy as it prevented Arasaka from using soulkiller on David.

[@apanickedseagull]

So Smasher has a sliver of humanity?

[@Mandaloran317]

@@apanickedseagull not quite, he just has a respect for David as a warrior to give him a warriors death

[@Its2ru]

@@Mandaloran317smasher has given johnnys stuff to his right hand man as a gift so it’s possible he has a sliver

[@AlanLare]

​​@@Its2ruwell even in 2077 he was still 4% human, 96% borg

[@alex-mq2ik]

I think Lucy got cyberpsychosis at the end of season 1 due to the psychological trauma after the fight with Adam Sandler. It also explains why she saw David while on the moon.

[@bumperjumper]

Great point! Also, I noticed Lucy tries to stop her hand from shaking when talking to dorio about the Tanaka mission in episode 6. Could have been an early sign of onset cyberpsychosis

[@Zyphernetic]

It would also mean that the statements are true about women and being able to handle Cyberpsychosis better than men or it could mean that Kiwi taught Lucy to get a grip on the signs of Cyberpsychosis. Seemingly throughout the show, it seems like each female figure had a lock down for Cyberpsychosis. Dorio warned Maine about his addiction to chroming up but ignored it. Rebecca did the same for David but David initially had his mind set just as Maine did. It's a cycle when you look at it.

[@chrispbacon002]

Women and Netrunners both have a much higher affinity to cyber psychosis, especially Lucy who is the best Netrunner alive. She doesn’t hallucinate at the end in the moon, Lucy goes creating BD’s of special moments to her throughout her life. She creates various BD’s of her time spent with David and relives them occasionally.

[@clint_the_wolf8313]

Fairly certain she got it from all the chrome david was putting in her...

[@bumperjumper]

@@clint_the_wolf8313 at super sonic speed, no less

[@Eyestudio11]

Here's a crazy theory for you: Everything shown in the series happened the way it was shown, nothing is a simulation and there is only 2 BD sequences(Chuck Norris at the start and in ep5 when David was captured by JK), Maine isn't David's father and neither is Smasher, Gloria was just a regular person that had worked as an emt, Adam shot David at the end, Lucy went to the moon and while standing in the spot where she and David stood in ep1 she spread her arms to bask in sun's light, not to remove her helmet.

[@bumperjumper]

Whoa now, this is a very bold theory

[@oomf947]

100% people just cope with weird theories

[@redyokai3726]

I think u might be on to something.

[@st.altair4936]

Bruh I like fan theories but this is just going too far smh

[@thecatthatgotaway]

Yeah I'm gonna need some proof before i start believing shit THAT deep down the iceberg

[@pipeline789]

The most convincing for me was definitely the one where he died by killing the single mom, leaving behind just a monster inside his body. Something definitely died inside of him that night

[@AZURAAAAAAAAAAA]

in my opinion, the edgerunners simulation theory makes the most sense. it still baffles me why that braindancer dude smiled before dying in severe pain

[@bumperjumper]

Yeah JK’s smile was really ominous. I made an entire video breaking down all the evidence that the second half of Edgerunners happens within JK’s second simulation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoCvpGZpjM2YjLc I mentioned that JK’s smile is because he knows he has David trapped in a BD

[@AZURAAAAAAAAAAA]

@@bumperjumper yes i saw that video! it really made sense. maybe s2 will be david waking up from the bd? most likeley it would be a new crew if there was a s2

[@bumperjumper]

@@AZURAAAAAAAAAAA true, wouldn’t mind a season following an entirely new crew as these teams have demonstrated the capability to craft an amazing story

[@AlessandroMorvillo]

Events cannot be a simulation. In the game, you chat with Falco and find Rebecca rifle where she died. The presence of the rifle under the brushes in Arasaka Plaza makes the events true. Also, people around the place talks how the site was almost destroyed three years before. The only fact that's not 100% proven could be David true death, but still in the Afterlife a drink named David Martinez is available, meaning that Martinez become a legend. And there's only one way to become a legend in Night City. *SPOILER ALERT FOR CYBERPUNK 2077* . . . . . . . . . But, there's also a slightly possibility that Martinez is indeed alive in the Mikoshi, as Arasaka known how to "resurrect" dead people. Using Soulkiller over live subjects isn't the only way for them to read a mind, like it happened to your choom Jackie Welles. A corrupted and glitched, probably because of the sudden death, copy of Jackie can be encountered and talked to in the Mikoshi, if V decides to help Hanako Arasaka. Arasaka used Soulkiller over Jackie death body, partially recovering him. This could be achieved only if the body is sent to Viktor and not buried using Delamain. So, even according that Adam Smasher have actually "killed" David, if Arasaka acted quickly maybe Soulkiller were able to recover if not all, but at least nearly everything of David "soul", according to the lore acquired completing the game with "The Devil" route. After that, David could be safety restored using a Relic biochip inside a cloned vessel or a full body conversion. If this restore has not happened before V main story arc, based on the route that CDPR decides to be canonical David Martinez is now part of the Mikoshi souls freed by Alt and part of her behind the Blackwall, all endings but "The Devil", or he's locked in the Mikoshi with thousands of other engrams, included potentially V, if "The Devil" route is chosen as the canonical ending.

[@AZURAAAAAAAAAAA]

@@bumperjumper agreed

[@trevorm7384]

The 2nd one is ridiculous, David's cyberskeleton is made for war and battling large amounts of enemy force, whereas Smasher is a merc and is built for 1v1s

[@crusader_gaming8273]

What if David is actually adam but in a different timeline and he kicked someone’s ass so hard that he went back in time to kill David for hes weapon

[@bumperjumper]

As I’m reading this I’m starting to get the glitching eyes effect

[@AWESOME2715]

I wonder if Smasher DID sustain some serious damage from David- and maybe was recuperating when V assaults Arasaka tower. It would explain why Adam Smasher was such a pushover in 2077- his cyverware was still damaged from 2076, including his Sandevistan

[@Bultizar]

V being Daves mom is not possible as the actions of Season 1 is happening before the game.

[@Ultionis733]

I think they kinda wanted to creat a open end because when some1 dies you see it multiple times. And with David you just see him smile and not really die so they where thinking ahead for a season 2 maybe? Lucy at the end just misses David, maybe see just goes back to earth and hear some news that David is still kicking around.

[@bumperjumper]

That’d be an awesome setup for season 2!

[@redyokai3726]

In the game they said he’s dead bro. Besides smasher is till alive during the game too so the blood is not his. David’s brains got blown out

[@arandomperson2644]

Unfortunately there is a drink in the afterlife called the Martinez. You can only get a drink named after you if you die

[@honkeykong4049]

If I did season 2, it would follow totally different characters. Maybe Falco and Lucy have short cameo appearances but that's it. Of course what I would actually do, would be a prequel centered on Rebecca, because fucking duh.

[@Jkrocsko]

Okay. I seriously was confused abt where that last one was going but never thought id get trolled so hard lmao

[@bumperjumper]

Same here, choom. The post was so heavily upvoted on Reddit. I didn’t think I’d get trolled so hard

[@TheNathanator]

With the Morgan Blackhand theory (where he kills Adam Smasher), it simply couldn't happen because Adam Smasher is alive one year later in Cyberpunk 2077.

[@Non-PoliticalGamer]

yeah but they could have made an engram

[@GriffinsNest]

Oh man the irony

[@durchfahrtru]

Theory: The Cyberpunk release is all a profit move because releasing games unfinished and making a "hero"-comeback story brings more money :')

[@bumperjumper]

Modern day corpos?

[@redyokai3726]

Im not mad at it. +Respect

[@loner8045]

Just by hearing these theories I almost ended up with cyber psychosis 🤣

[@bumperjumper]

Same here 🤣

[@Bakura686]

2077 plays after Egerunners, thats why we find beccas gun at the place she died and we can order the David Matines in the afterlive bar

[@boatridecharm]

Adam Smasher is literally in the game which takes place after the anime... the fact that you looked over this pretty obvious thing when questioning whether he was killed at the end of the anime or not is insane.

[@bumperjumper]

Adam smasher is a construct, meaning there could be multiple. He could be placed into a new “body” at Arasaka’s will potentially. I agree that these theories are ridiculous, that’s kinda the point of the video…

[@boatridecharm]

@@bumperjumper Except in the video you also cover theories that are plausible as well and you say that........................... Also you can literally retcon anything with the construct theory, and you claiming Adam Smasher is a construct is also that as well - a theory. You can't try to justify one dumb theory with another unfounded theory.

[@honkeykong4049]

@@boatridecharm It's all make believe my boi, nothing to get worked up over. It's not like he's arguing anything truly insane here, like if he said Halo could take 40k 1 on 1.

[@boatridecharm]

@@honkeykong4049 No one's getting worked up here, "my boi". I was pointing out the inconsistencies in his theory. You can't argue one theory you have and base it off another theory you have. Unless you think people need to just go along with anything and everything anyone says and never question or critique anything. Also the fact that he likes his own comments is absolutely cringe, but that's beside the point. Oh, one last thing - David Martinez is literally established as dead in the game, so the fact that we're even having this conversation about who was killed in that scene to begin with is absolutely ridiculous. Y'all just want to make shit up because you prefer your storyline.

[@flamebreaker7318]

@@boatridecharm well it is known that there are engram copies of smasher that serve as bodyguards for rich people as far as we know the real smasher is still alive

[@0011110000111110]

I keep imagining an alternate version of episode 10 where Adam Sandler and Adam Smasher are both fighting David together, one with very bad comedy and one with cybernetic implants. I'm not sure which one would be worse.

[@DatFatThor]

All the ones of Smasher dying don't make sense since Edgerunners is before 2077

[@Karlz1212]

I have something that’s not much of a theory but rather just fan speculation is that Lucy’s story reminds me a lot of the legend of Cheng’e There’s many versions of the story but they all have something in common, Cheng’e used to live with her lover on the mortal plane but she ended up ascending to the moon by herself usually by means that were out of her control with some versions saying that her lover died before/during her ascension Coincidence? Maybe but it’s still there

[@ozhinz]

my theory: adam sandler actually became an actor

[@bumperjumper]

Hmm I’m gonna have to see some solid evidence in favor to believe this theory

[@akui-exe3652]

Was talking to a friend recently about How I believe the amino blockers could be what cause cyberpsychosis not getting chromed up.

[@AnxiousCinder]

V is a god no joke. Bro killed Adam smasher, and kills cyber psychos for a living

[@dennitheninja]

Funny enough in cyberpunk lore there’s a actual skates/heelys cybernetic 😭

[@JVD_MMA]

If everything after episode 5 isn’t a simulation then cyberpsychosis is treatable as he literally snapped out of it over a kiss

[@RealDiaFr]

David's gravity weapons definitely couldn't have killed Smasher lol. Smasher right before literally jumped off a skyscraper and smashed directly into the ground, still standing. I think his body is strong enough to withstand the forces.

[@AnxiousCinder]

“Black out shut the city down so dark you’ll never hear a sound”

[@foxycool234]

V is David and Lucy son

[@justinsukmanowsky6764]

The show takes place like 1 year before the game

[@Tanari-alsotanari]

💀

[@bumperjumper]

They grow up so fast

[@thepowerof2307]

Did bro forget that Lucy left the crew to try destroy all the information Saka had about David?

[@Nokryz]

Here's something to ponder What if the BD guy got a tidbit of info of David's future and made a custom BD to try and teach David the risks of cyberpyscosis preemptively, season two is where the BD ends and the events are different but have the same feel

[@Nokryz]

Bumper himself liked something that my stupid brain said....? ...... Impossible..... It can't -

[@tonykendall8611]

Adam Smasher went full borg in the 2020's, maybe before. He lacks the ability to have impregnated Gloria some 40 years later. Impossible for him to be David's father.

[@rorkan138]

The theory that Adam Smasher was killed and not David can't be true. Edgerunners takes place before Cyberpunk 2077 and he's in the game...That had to come from someone who never played it.

[@kevinmalisek9353]

Adam Sandler killed me :D :D :D dude you have no idea how much I'm laughing right now

[@bumperjumper]

Glad to hear it!!

[@ZelphTheWebmancer]

My theory is that half of these people haven't watched the show or that I'm really bad at spotting bait. It must be the former.

[@DrakeTimbershaft]

Theory 21: Falco will be the main character in Cyberpunk Nomads, which will be the title for the second season of the Cyberpunk anime.

[@bumperjumper]

That would be dope!

[@aceyp2127]

Something to think about, V and Lucy woke up at the same junkyard in the badlands outside of night city, same thing might happen to david as if he never died, fi you go the the part where v gets shot it looks odly alike adam sandler shooting david

[@bryonyamada2620]

5:07 Also we know this to be FAULSE. As Edgerunners is the prequal to Cyberpunk 2077 game and Adam Smasher is in the game Alive and Well.

[@khandovarbalest1369]

-David, I am your father Whatever choom, i don't give a shit -Wait, you're supposed to deny it fervently! And then to search your feelings, you know it to be true! I'm sorry, Lei... eeh, Lucy -Agh, I even forgot to lob your hand off (crushes David's arm to a pulp, then throws him off the crater he made, only for him to be hoisted away by Millenium Falco) Return of the Edgerunner is just David and Lucy chilling on the moon, while Sheev... eeh, Saburo Arasaka slowly starts looking even more like a potato

[@hanchiman]

David never had a chance to defeat Adam but V could defeat him was due to that V have the legendary Johnny Silverhand inside of him.

[@crisoliveira2644]

I hope some big entertainment studio gets interested in Shadowrun as well. The fantasy-cyberpunk mash up may not be for everyone, but I think Shadowrun's lore is even better than Cyberpunk's. Ridiculous fan theories will have better chances with Shadowrun.

[@lorenzoditrolio6680]

Here’s a crazy theory, what if David was actually in a coma or something similar ( after the car incident in ep 1) and edge runners was a dream, we all know how crazy dreams can get on a dime

[@guyyatsu]

Nah because there's a drink named after him at the Afterlife

[@lorenzoditrolio6680]

@@guyyatsufair enough, I forgot about that

[@MalzraAirwynn]

For the idea of Lucy using David, the reason she stopped going on missions wasn't because she lost interest in going to the moon, she was specifically making targeted solos trikes against ARasaka edgerunners etc in order to keep them from going after David as a test subject.

[@uniedgee]

Probably late on this but it should be noted in the source material that Johnny Silverhand is brought back as an Engram in a clone post 2020.

[@yilmazb12391]

David's cyber skeleton was only a BD because Jimmy Kurosaki smiled at David just before he died

[@yaboynoct7215]

A couple of these theories fail to even understand that The anime happens before the game

[@Ione_revolucion]

Fun fact V was in Chicago during the events of Edgerunners

[@AnthonyKusanagi101]

I mean. Anyone with the master control of their own implants could makes a lot more sense.

[@bumperjumper]

What do you mean? How would this play out, I’m curious

[@AnthonyKusanagi101]

@@bumperjumper if David had more practice and control with the Sandi without juicing up on chrome and without the exoskeleton and knew how to fight better and had the right equipment to take on smasher he would've won.Lucy being dead would be a massive head turn.

[@bumperjumper]

@@AnthonyKusanagi101 this is completely in line with how smasher is a complete pushover in the game too

[@LuxZoltan]

Andam Sandler being Adam smasher would fit since the tv remote from click could be Arasaka tecnology

[@_k3ndo_]

What if David smiled because he had a counter-attack ready? Maybe the blood we saw was Sasher's

[@mergoupdated7636]

David:2076 V:2077 V won Smasher,so there is no way he could do this.

[@invert8505]

@@mergoupdated7636 smasher could've escaped without completing his goal of killing david

[@redyokai3726]

@@invert8505David is dead in the game u can get his coat and everyone acknowledges his death

[@invert8505]

@@redyokai3726 let me smoke my copium for gods sake

[@redyokai3726]

@@invert8505 oh sorry. I get that this can be a bit difficult. Im sorry for ur loss.

[@theoctrain1289]

David got that lightskin stare 2:16

[@AnxiousCinder]

You think V is already a cyberpscho? Because he goes around killing stuff

[@gandalainsley6467]

For some reason this video reminded me of silent hill's 2 circumcision theory.

[@bumperjumper]

Now I’ve gotta look this up!

[@snintendog]

David's Dad went to buy Milk. Bought Maine instead. His father is Faraday.

[@bumperjumper]

It all makes so much sense now

[@shakostarsun]

People can't handle a tragedy even my friends their minds are like broken from there being a tragedy.

[@NoOne-hp1el]

my theory : adam smasher stoped before he shot david and let david escape from death and then he shot himself and in the end of the episode lucy is alone on the moon beacuse david was in the hospital. and i think at the end of the day that series was rushed maybe there will be a season 2 showing how david ran away from arasaka or something

[@Sosuke.Aizen99]

Fun theory but no, Adam smasher would never let anyone escape and it’s proved that David is dead in the game as well at the show.

[@rorkan138]

Adam is alive in the game which takes place a year after Edgerunners

[@domiclips4401]

The end (The moon part) is what David sees in his death and not what actually happes.

[@kemsat-n6h]

I like the idea of the show being an illicit BD/video game within the Cyberpunk universe.

[@pizzapower88]

Adam Smasher is David and Lucy's son. Hinted at by Adam saying "you could say I'm special". David was always saying that he is special and this was know by Adam. What Adam wanted to say was "you could say I'm special...LIKE YOU, FATHER" but was stopped by Arasaka mind control. You see in Season 2 Lucy finds out David is alive and held prisoner by Arasaka. Knowing she can't leave him to a fate worst than death she decides to return to NC and save him. To find a way to do this she returns to old net. How this happens takes up 99% of season 2. Last scene of the last episode of S2 after battling through a rouges AI's version a YU YU HAKUSHO Dark tournament (where different AI groups plus Lucy's group made of people she finds along the way during S2 fight it out. Spoilers Rebecca 2.0 is one of them. Adam Smasher having her rebuilt. With some his own parts explaining why he's so must weaker in 2077. Knowing she would have to help his mother) she receives the grand prize of lost data. In this data not only does she find a way to save and repair David's broken mind and body, she finds their ultimate escape....TIME TRAVEL! The reason why Rache Bartmoss destroyed the old net in the first place. So Mega Corps couldn't travel back in time and take over sooner increasing their profits even further. At the end of season 3 as Lucy and David are about to delta, Rebecca 2.0 wishes them luck and gives them a BD from Smasher explaining what has to be done in the past to start the chain of events that eventually free humanity in 2177. Which is the plots for S4-S77.

[@Datreallyhurtedmetho]

lol this technically makes johnboy silverhand adam sandler's thrid cousin inlaw

[@yoU0Turn]

David comes back as an Arasaka Puppet. Completely borged and brainwashed, the only person to save him is Lucy. Lucy fights against David, she saves him but he it is to late and he sacrifices himself.

[@bumperjumper]

This would be really cool to see, and allow us to experience more of these characters while respecting the themes of night city

[@user-us5dr2qi2r]

In the game Falco says, so you do t find 'US' not me so he is not the only survivor of the edge runners gang. And I would say it was a dream dance and the reason they retired was David saw what would happen if he continued.

[@serpouncedk3933]

edgerunners takes place in 2076, so every theory with V or adam dying is impossible

[@shakostarsun]

The theory part to me is Johny Silver hands and David Convo, JS says something like your feelings for her are not real, David says they're real to me.

[@JohnJohn-yl4ko]

To be honest I assumed that David's dad was a Valentino gang member. She got hit by a Mexican Smooth Criminal if you will

[@rorkan138]

David is definitely dead. In the game there is a drink at Afterlife named after him, and they only do that for Night City "legends" who die.

[@theodoreclarke490]

In episode 2 when Lucy showed David the moon braindance all the events after it was just another one of Lucy's braindances or dreams

[@daniellourenco5488]

The fucking helies made me spit water at work

[@bumperjumper]

LOL

[@grimreaper63151]

Okay to people who watched the show and nothing else. Cyberpunk is kinda like fallout :/ it takes place in an alternate timeline to our own. I mean in the game you even find out the USSR is still around. The U.S also kinda fell apart around the early 2000’s. I forgot what the cause was but I think it was just civil unrest for the most part. And how are theories popping up saying this character killed smasher or that character killed smasher? Especially when this anime takes place one year before the game. And smasher is in said game. And at the end V kills smasher

[@sophiavhoti4548]

funnily enough the USSR still exists in Fallout as well lol. its even implied they where on fairly good terms with the US pre-great war united by a there enemy in China

[@MrTrethurane]

On to something with those heelies

[@Warrior2044]

2:36 I hate this theory. I loved her and David’s relationship together. I don’t think it’s true. They both deeply love each other.

[@bumperjumper]

Yeah the biggest hole in the “Lucy was using David” theory is that Lucy did so many things to show she cared about David. She deleted Arasaka’s plans for David in hopes they forgot about it, she genuinely pleaded with him to chrome down, and they SLEPT TOGETHER. Kinda hard to do all those things for someone you’re just using lol

[@chrispbacon002]

Facts. All Lucy wanted was for David and her to live together on the moon away from night city and edgerunning. Their love was pure. I honestly believe no one loved david more than Lucy, not even Becca

[@Warrior2044]

@@chrispbacon002 Yes. That why I don’t think Becca was perfect for him. I love Lucy and David’s relationship and I wish they could be together on the moon.

[@JinKee]

1:20 Look mom! I'm in the screenshot! Mom? Mom?

[@bumperjumper]

Thank you for making this amazing community more amazing

[@JinKee]

@@bumperjumper you got it mom. All the way to the top.

[@NoZxim]

“Me wants to watch the anime after playing cyberpunk” sees the thumbnail 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@bumperjumper]

Don’t worry it’s not a spoiler, just a silly fan theory

[@pjbalasz1668]

I think maybe the whole show after he met that famous BD designer was a BD. Because there's no way that Lucy found him the way she did. His tracker wasn't working, it doesn't add up

[@bumperjumper]

Have you seen my video on this theory? I think you’d enjoy it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoCvpGZpjM2YjLc

[@valormeer]

Adam Sandler doesn't actually have a Sandevisaton, It's actually the remote from Click. That's why he comments that david's version is rudimentary

[@bumperjumper]

This makes perfect sense!! How didn’t I catch this sooner??

[@simonescuderi5977]

My idea: EDGERUNNERS is just a tale of EDGE RUNNERS, so it's all about rise and fall of junkyard kids in Night city. It's not about V, David, Rebecca and so on, it's all about (when the series'plot was originated and developed) describing what Cyberpunk is. Since Cyberpunk is originally a role playing game it's all about that game, how a party start, live and end, and Edgerunners try to explain this to the viewers, so the viewers are able to enjoy the game without having to read all the game master' books. If that's the way it's meant to be done they just made a good "game" with the sad end. The sad end itself is part of cyberpunk "philosophy": live fast (burn fast), die young (in a blaze of glory). Even the game "works" that way. The ending (japanese style) has been blurred (anime do that, A LOT, and it's irritating as hell) for two reasons: - keep a way to do a second season - allow people to have their own "view" of the ending, without saddeninng the viewers' base So don't expect that something will give you a PASSABLE explaination about "David" and the rest, if a second season comes they'll just patch up something to "keep the damn thing working". Cya!

[@jyrese117]

in game the joytoys refer to female characters as valerie and males as vincent, which disproves the david is v theory

[@DaniG._.German]

David might be alive because they always showed the death of the other crew members, but not David.

[@bumperjumper]

Exactly!! Multiple deaths in the show were either slow motion or a triple-take shot, where David was the only one who didn’t get either

[@oed1234]

Hate to say it but there's 2 things to note: David is dead, he has a drink in the afterlife that you can buy. Morgan Blackhand isn't dead which is why his drink isn't available in the afterlife Morgan Blackhand is Mr blue eyes, someone did a bit of data mining in the game, found his model and it's that if Mr blue eyes. The only reason why they are called different is because Mr blue eyes is a reanimated corpse controlled by an ai similarly to how the joy toy chip works

[@smashvidal4459]

Adam Smashers brutal beatdown on David would've played out the same exhausted or not.

[@tarellprince2163]

The Adam Sandler trolls are wild

[@tadomikari_gaming1]

I actually had a theory watching this what if v is David's dad but from the future

[@stevenmcdonald4078]

You said Adam Sandler instead of Adam Smasher, within the intro. Lmao

[@bumperjumper]

😈

[@lordofhnajuty]

I have no proof but.... just hear me out. I didn't play the game, watched a let's play and recently watch the anime. I think, Edgerunners is the plot of the Street Kid Path before Keanu Reeves joined the project. Basically when trigger got the rights to make an anime based off Cyberpunk, they asked for material from the development cycle. Some of the early ideas were still in the folder. Instead of V, we were originally going to be playing as David. here is some of my admittedly weak proofs 1. No one can deny that the major beats of the plot of both the game and the anime share a lot in common, 2. Street V's and David's first job as a runner is about car of a vip. 3. That montage in the game where V start their life as a Street Samurai looks like a lot of the same kind of things that happen to David. 4. Both end with Adam Smasher. 5. There is a major tone shift after getting silver hand in your head, almost like they had to shoe horn Keanu into the plot as a main character which I would argue that since he is, since the character you have the most interaction with, pushes the plot and is the only thing that actually matters in the end game. He became the new main character and pushed David into a lesser role, they thought it would be easier to just have an avatar character be our playable character rather then a character with their own thoughts and dreams. The way that I think that when CDPR knew that they were going to put Keanu in they they panicked because they had to make the choice to either tie in Maine,Kiwi,Rebecca,Lucy and everyone else in David's crew into the new plot about a ghost in his head/shell OR they would have to rip it all out and replace it with Jackie to keep it simple.

[@CheeseJuggernaut]

I think Apple Cobbler being an anagram is quite possible

[@bumperjumper]

What could this mean for David Blaine?

[@Dennis3113]

I think that Rebecca and David have to be alive. Because Rogue tells us in Cyberpunk 2077 that Adam Smasher wasnt seen in the last couple of years in Night City after we give Johnny control over our Body so they can talk to each other. That and in addition to that Falco doesnt says in the Mission that Davids crew seized to exist he explicitly says that V could find "them" if he would try hard enough. That means that at least in the Game Adam Smasher wasnt in town to kill them so maybe some retcon or They have to be alive. we just need to get a second game so we can save them. One were we can recruit an crew make a base and stuff. I would like that.

[@bumperjumper]

Do you think the upcoming dlc for 2077 “Phantom Liberty” could have something to do with David?

[@Dennis3113]

@@bumperjumper nah rather not but maybe they will test the Waters tbh One Piece has only a couple more years Cyberpunk has a Not similiar but familiar setting with kinda strange super powers so i guess at least Shoeisha may have an interest in the rights for cyberpunk egderunners

[@DeyanWell]

Anybody else noticed that he said „Adam Sandler“ somewhere in the beginning 😂😂😂

[@laykni]

He actually said it a lot

[@kareemmohamed184]

Why most people who do fan theory did pay attention to the game ??

[@PhilNightmareBrutality]

The Morgan blackhand killing Adam smasher theory doesn't add up due to 3 points in cyberpunk 2077 1) Evelyn parkers bd of the penthouse apartment that belongs to yorinobu arasaka he was in her xbd 2) he was present during the hiest to take the relic that puts v in a race to save his/her life and 3) he was made head of arasaka security as said by Grayson and he was talking to oda during the parade ( end of act 2 start of act 3) so that's why I think Morgan backhand killing Adam smasher is highly improbable

[@falstar2020]

Why does everybody think Adam Sandler is dead in the show when V kills him much much later. Is Adam the real clone?

[@navyshark2286]

The Healey's got me thinking

[@bumperjumper]

👀

[@dr.levionce5516]

it is possible that david was just heavily tired when he tried to use the gravity slam against adam smasher. it just makes no sense, adam smasher can get killed by regular gun fire but a gravity weapon that can destroy entire convoys of armored militech vehicles is where adam just somehow resists? either david was tired or adam smasher was buffed to be a menace in this anime

[@alpha_9997]

Orrrrr…… the game fucked that bossfight

[@marruproductions2864]

Bro a lot of these theories are fucking good, especially the cyberpsychosis being a weapon one, but some of these actually made me go cyberpsycho

[@bumperjumper]

I can already hear MaxTac on the way

[@cookiemedina4295]

9:18 David could have survived like how V survived Dex shooting him/her

[@bumperjumper]

Intriguing…good point!

[@Zyphernetic]

Unfortunately unlikely. Dex shot V with a low caliber round that didn't fully kill him and with the relic installed inside of V, it helped revive him but at the cost of his body initially trying to kick V out for Johnny to take over his body.

[@firezama]

that guy who gives david sugeries is actually smasher, have we ever seen them in the same room? also he bloats about himself when talking to david

[@bumperjumper]

Immediately I thought of the doctor who tried to “save” Gloria and laughed out loud 😂 Ripperdoc being Adam smasher would be a trip

[@brockly7916]

the dog theory got me on the edge...

[@bumperjumper]

Which dog theory? 🐶

[@brockly7916]

@@bumperjumper the one where the dog experiences david and other characters in the simulation... XD LOL...

[@bumperjumper]

@@brockly7916 I’m about to go over the edge myself now lol

[@teamnecrocasters2210]

The way the Edgerunners Easter egg is in Cyberpunk 2077 Falco makes it seem like the entire crew is keeping their heads down… if that is true then how much of Edgerunners is true??

[@teamnecrocasters2210]

Falco says if you dig enough you can find the Edgerunners crew if you dig enough. What if the events happen after they pursue the BD guy was just David in a simulation? Everything that happens is either generated by an AI or taken from multiple BDs? After all the BD guy is the best at what he does… David could be experiencing just that.

[@bumperjumper]

Sounds like you also watched my simulation video: The Ending Was A SIMULATION | Cyberpunk: Edgerunners Ending Theory kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoCvpGZpjM2YjLc

[@gawainethefirst]

The theory about cyberpsychosis being used by Corpos is actually supported by lore in the games.

[@whiteplasy6853]

Sorry my english is bad My theory. DAVID IS LIKE JONNY. Hear me out. So jonny nuked NC and my big booty boi smasher took care of him. Just like he took of care of David. Big booty boi returned with Davids head and david become an engrame. But now the real mind booty smashing starts: Edgerunners played in 2076, the game in 2077. Lucy noticed V and Jonny boy und goes looking for David. And guess what? We have a season 2

[@Stellar001100]

Didnt the addition of a side mission in the game automatically prove that all surviving Edgerunners in the show are still surviving, but just in hiding?

[@Dakrs06]

Yeah lucy and falco are still alive

[@Devilicious.]

Supermild spoiler: When you do a mission with River, you can see a fetus being grown in a lab, so cloning is probably already a thing!

[@fgzhtsp]

What confused me about David´s death was that he was shot the same way as Johnny Silverhand was shot in the game. Johnny survived, so why couldn´t David survive it? Adam even says that he could be an interesting construct. So maybe he was brought into Arasaka and then they used Soulkiller on him.