Which Jojo Antagonist Has The Strongest Time Stand?

[@BUR404]

Since this video is doing decently well I thought it would be good to say a few things. Well...hey guys, I haven't uploaded much on here but I just wanted to say thanks for watching, unless you're the type to read comments first then thanks for potentially watching? This is only my second Jojo video but the nature the video's contents will automatically result in some debate in the comments. You are welcome to agree or disagree with anything I've said in the video. I definitely made some mistakes in regards to the full extent of the stands abilities too so feel free to correct or make fun of me lol. A few people have already done so which I appreciate. However, please remain respectful of my and others opinions in the comments. I'd rather not have some people cursing at each other about whether or not epitach can see time stop and so on.

[@kirayoshikage8904]

My predictions before I finish the video "King crimson"

[@Infinitaath]

Can't Diavolo throw blood in the opponent's eyes? Doesn't that mean the opponent will be hit if he throws a knife or shoots with a Gun. I'm just speculating. But still, Dio would win because he's a vampire.

[@Ihaventbuttheslightestiferance]

Thank you for finally explaining how the fuck king crimson works this is the most clearest explanation in my opinion

[@BUR404]

@@Infinitaath I think Diavolo does all that because of my earlier point about him relying on post ability confusion to strike. The blood in the eyes just makes it so his opponents won't immediately know time skip happened I believe. I don't think he uses that technique all the time though

[@jonnyjostar4857]

You say afair fight with dio in pucci/MIH pucci can speed time to kill dio even before he time a is nit 100% but is possibel

[@crimsonshifter5338]

I’m actually wondering what would happen if King Crimson and The World activated their abilities at the same time

[@BUR404]

Either they would cancel out each other or time stop would still work within King Crimsons ability. Similar to when Return to Zero infiltrated King Crimsons ability

[@mangles1044]

@@Jokey_YT diavolo can't because time has stopped so there's no time he can skip

[@Johngamer2418]

@@Jokey_YT Dios time stop reached 11 seconds at the end of part 3. Jotaro said when he time stopped "Your time stop length has reached 11 seconds now" and then he elaborated as to how he activated his 5s timestop when dio hit 9 seconds. So even if kc could skip the worlds time stop, he'd still have 1 second left.

[@Johngamer2418]

@@Jokey_YT king crimson still cant attack in time erase, all he could do is get behind dio and try to donut him, afterwards dio could regen and maybe even figure out his ability since dio is a genius, and then next time diavolo tries to go for hte donut, he stops time and absolutely stomps him.

[@howtofight.8650]

@@mangles1044 Time no longer exists so how Dio possibly stop time? As long KC activates even slightly first its game over

[@13BlueCrimson]

I just love the match up between Dio and Diavolo. Since Dio Means “God” and Diavolo means “Devil” in Italian. It’s a pretty cool thematic match up.

[@j.s.ospina9861]

You know, Part 5 is like when Jesus, the son of God, faced the devil in the desert.

[@kumofu679]

@@j.s.ospina9861 now that you said it

[@13BlueCrimson]

@@j.s.ospina9861 Lol yeah, and the arrows could be metaphors for the nails on the cross. I think this whole symbolism is pretty cool.

[@gemmken]

angry god

[@tusharbullyduck-mode1183]

God is more evil than the devil

[@konstantinkachanovsky2960]

Another important fact that was not mentioned in this video is that MiH's ability isn't really time acceleration, but full control over gravity, so accelerating time isn't MiH's only ability, Pucci can use gravity as wants.

[@thehappiestmask8751]

ummm yes and no

[@langdonyeo8289]

I thought he actually can accelerate time

[@sailorquestion3229]

@@langdonyeo8289 He can, but that is just a result of his gravity manipulation improving, space and time are strongly related.

[@chestertamayo1894]

@@langdonyeo8289 Time is related to gravity atleast in jojo. Gravity manipulation is C-Moon's whole thing yet the first time we see it abilities teased it accelerated time. MiH being C-Moon's final form.

[@demi-femme4821]

Remember, Made in Heaven's time acceleration is not a new ability. Pucci caused a woman's nails to grow and made the eggs she bought turn into chicks by unconsciously using C-Moon (he also caused her baby to have a man's face in the manga but they cut this from the anime for some reason). C-Moon always had access to time acceleration, so it only makes sense that Made in Heaven would have access to gravity manipulation.

[@christianasamoah7496]

But if Dio sees Bites to Dust can he somehow avoid it? Even if it gets effected by time stop, it would only be stopped temporarily

[@BUR404]

Most Stands disappear upon the death of its user. So if Dio reacts fast enough, he can likely not alive Kira before Bites to Dust uses its ability

[@SilverWolf1ol]

@@BUR404 My thought is that they could just destroy their eye, as BTD appears in their eye, but nothing said it's indestructible

[@varunkachroo3400]

@@BUR404 you wont ever die immediately even if shot in the vitals or even chopped in half. thats enough time for btd to go off. so it would either be a draw or a win for kira

[@KappaGammaTv]

Dio is dead and cold

[@aurorathomson2051]

@@varunkachroo3400 you could just pull his brain and heart out during time stop and considering how easily the world can tear straight through flesh and bone I'm pretty sure that if dio aims for the brain then Kira is instantly dead. I'm also pretty sure you can't even function without a brain so he wouldn't be able to activate his ability to begin with so dio really does stomp everyone on this list

[@thekingofspeed8960]

Pretty good comparison but I think that MIH has the most potential if Pucci was a little bit smarter. He could hide in the accelerated time until he is too fast to react to and the opponents Time stop or time erase is too short to be useful. Diavolo and DIO still have to worry about range but since MIH is universal Pucci has an advantage in that regard. I don’t think he has long monologues either 😅

[@BUR404]

Long monologues or declaring victory early always spell doom for Jojo villains

[@tracksanino957]

Didn't araki said in an interview that any time related abilities extends to space and therefor if you have the ability to manipulate time you can affect the whole universe?

[@thinkublu]

Also, think about how much control pucci actually has over MiH he can specify what he speeds up, he speeds up everything other than all life which means he actually probably has Insanely precise control over time if he wants

[@furiousfusion7890]

@@thinkublu no, thats just how his ability works

[@Kenpatched]

@@tracksanino957 Except the fact that Diavolo can somehow make his King Crimson's time skip range shorter.

[@thegoldenphoenix3710]

I think pucci might actually be able to pull a win off against Dio but I feel like we'd need a scenario of how they would start fighting

[@slaysolsisthurs758]

Pucci caught dio having an affair

[@thegoldenphoenix3710]

@@slaysolsisthurs758 this man would spend year planning on his down fall

[@slaysolsisthurs758]

@@thegoldenphoenix3710 lmao who?

[@comrade2826]

@@slaysolsisthurs758 pucci finds out vanilla ice likes dio

[@PooBoi_YT]

If DIO was to stop believing in his plan to attain {HEAVEN}, Pucci would most likely try to convince DIO to stick to his own ideals, but in the end, DIO no longer believes in his own past beliefs. Pucci, enraged by this, loses all faith in his DIO-sama, calling him a coward who could’ve achieved it all. He proceeds to fight DIO. That’s pretty much the only way I see them possibly engaging in combat, but even then, DIO wouldn’t ever really have a reason to stop believing in his ideals.

[@bartlegoof5949]

i think Made in Heaven would beat The World, simply because dio is a vampire and as time accelerates day time comes far sooner and eventually before dio can react, and if he hides in a building as time accelerates, pucci could either just wait for the building to age and become dilapidated or find a way to destroy the building

[@BUR404]

The acceleration would also make it so Pucci is moving so fast, King Crimson would never have an opportunity to strike

[@limitedlunar3954]

You're not wrong, but Dio would probably know how his stand functions if he were alive so he would probably be super smart about it.

[@bartlegoof5949]

@@limitedlunar3954 maybe, but once it gets to the point where the the days pass in milliseconds it’s kinda all over for him if he steps outside, and there’s also the fact that MIH can actually shorten the duration of time stop

[@icantbelieveitsnotbutter8851]

All I need to see was your comment, Dio being a vamp just makes him weak in this situation.

[@lordbarneythechildmuncher8634]

When you think about it, Dio would probably have reached heaven as for this fight to ever happen dio would have to have killed jotaro, meaning that he could complete his plan, but this is just a theory tbh

[@justaslime7525]

Imagine if Kira and Diavolo had the Wonder of U They’d never get caught that’s actually the perfect stand for them

[@deanfernandes7604]

True, but Kira would still be at a little loss cause there is no guarantee that only the hands will remain.

[@jojokujo6886]

basically perfect Stand ability for every Villain

[@PeakPeakPeakPeakPeak]

@@jojokujo6886 not for dio

[@TheOriginalPoon]

They literally wouldn’t have to do anything either. They wouldn’t even have to hide, ANYONE that has even an inkling of a suspicion of them instantly fucking dies or gets severely injured in a final destination type of way

[@jojokujo6886]

@@PeakPeakPeakPeakPeak it would be perfect to Dio to simply if the Stardust just attempt to locate his wherebouts the calamity would possibly kill most or possibly all of them since none of them have counter against calamity

[@gabrielg3866]

I think it depends on circumstances I actually think MIH has more potential than it's given credit. I think The World is advantaged in a typical close range stand brawl but MIH could pretty much defeat any of these stands from a distance. MIH could use time accelerate on any projectile even a rock and it would be like getting shot by a rail gun. Sure you could use time stop and dodge but then your just getting blasted by another projectile.

[@goodboi1725]

seriously how the fuck are you supposed to dodge something that fires at light speed, and don’t get me started on shortened time stop lol

[@Grimnoire]

In an arena fighter the world is better, putting mih in egypt and the world in Florida the world would lose lol, but the minute The world gets close its over...

[@noahanimations9859]

Yes but like he said it’s a double edged sword, MIH’s opponent could do the same thing

[@gabrielg3866]

@@noahanimations9859 Except for the fact that MIH can pick and choose what accelerates. On top of this in the last battle of Stone Ocean Pucci is actually fully aware of his surroundings and speed. To everybody else Pucci is going crazy fast but to Pucci his speed is normal and comprehensible. AKA if someone threw a rock while MIH was active to everyone else it would look like the rock was going at mach speed. But to Pucci everyone else is slow and the rock is going at a normal speed.

[@noahanimations9859]

@@gabrielg3866 it would still hit him at Mach speed regardless of his perception of time

[@cherrypoptart2001]

The scary part is that Dio and the world werent even at full power because of Jonathon's body lacking enough Joestar blood. When Dio got Joseph's blood we saw the range of the stand drastically increased from a few meters to literally time freezing the bats that were far above him while he was fighting Jotaro. Dio told Jotaro that if he kills him and take his joestar blood he would of been able to increase stop time by a great amount or even permanently

[@OBUNGUS487]

He said that once his neck wounf had healed completely he would be able to stop time for as long as he wants

[@mikecane6501]

@@OBUNGUS487dio would’ve been way toooooooo op with that then

[@soulstice33]

uhm I think u don't realize but when dio or jotaro stop time.. It is universal. Not just a part of city lol

[@mckinleyknight1775]

Dio and Jotaro's time stop, and Time Erasure are all universal events lol, they aren't localised

[@kujoova]

Its a perfect trio. Time Stop > Time acceleration > Time erase > Time stop ETC. TS beats TA, Jotaro lost because Pucci abused Jolyne to win. Time Accel will utterly dominate Time Erase because DIavolo will not be able to catch Made In heaven, high speed stands can react and make Time Erase useless. And Time erase will skip over timestop, as Timestop happens within na second and Timestop will be skipped.

[@Fugitive685]

If there is no second, there is no time to erase

[@gustarddonut1452]

This is the best explanation

[@Junpeidaman190]

You can't stop time in a world without time

[@kujoova]

@@Junpeidaman190 Someone doesn't understand jojo. King Crimson renders a set amount of time between 0.5-10 seconds useless. During that time he cannot attack, and can reposition and prepare attacks. He cannot inereact with anything. That time still exists, as people notice that time has skipped, which would be the proper term for it. If he erased the time nobody would be able to tell it had happened. But that isnt the case. Timestop happens within a second, and you cannot measure the duarion with a timeline, because time is frozen so it would happen all within an instant, which is logically immesurable. With all of that background, because the timestop happens within a second it can be "Skipped" by King Crimson. He isnt going to be able to kill a timestopper anyway.

[@Junpeidaman190]

@@kujoova 💀. Debate me on discord because everything you said about king Crimson was wrong lmfao

[@RANGERHI-sr6hs]

just wanna say i think this a great video but i also think putting people against a vampire who has infinite stamina meaning he won't get tierd, so i think jotaros time stop is a fair matchup even then they all most likely lose to jotaro just letting people know that DIO isn't really a fair match up since he has infinite stamina, nonetheless great video dude!

[@BUR404]

Thanks for commenting and you’re right. Dio having infinite stamina and regeneration would give him an unfair advantage. Jotaro and Star Platinum would have been a more fair matchup 👍

[@monadoslash]

@@BUR404 Jotaro isn't a villain tho so you could put Diego instead

[@Grimnoire]

@@monadoslash they both spam time stop just as much so it comes to how tired physically they can get and how much damage they can take.

[@sir_coma60]

I like the match up between King Crimson and Made in Heaven. Diavolo twists fate to his liking, but Puchi is above fate.

[@TomSNC]

Well according to Emporio, he isnt above fate lmao

[@tehnoobleader7673]

@@TomSNC I'm p sure he is but he's dumb enough to let emporio win, tho this could also be because pucci himself wasn't able to see the future in the new universe unlike others(could be wrong)

[@isaam1116]

Pucci blitzes

[@AmelpsXett]

Diavolo wont be able to kill Pucci, but would be able to survive him

[@isaam1116]

@@AmelpsXett he blitzes before diavolo activates time skip

[@miranhaespada1381]

2:00 no no no no no, Jotaro didn't interrupt Dio because of "he need some time to activate" No, is because starplatinum could move on the stoptime, and the time returned to move again after that because Starplatinum hit his brain to hard, almost the same way Diavolo could use King Crimson just by 0,5 seconds after almost dieing because he had lose all iron of his blood

[@thedevourerofglue9162]

i never knew word and eye cancer existed

[@miranhaespada1381]

@@thedevourerofglue9162 yes, the first person that had it has your mom

[@admiralkizaru7925]

Actually Diavolo didn't erase time just 0.5 seconds because he is almost died. The main reason is because he doesn't want to waste his power so it will be useless to erase time more than 0.5 seconds. Diavolo can control how long will he erase time. But the others are right.

[@kingboo7613]

Me when I see ger: HE JUST STANDING THERE MENACINGLY!!

[@qmaiin7830]

The reason why part 3,4,5,6 villains have something to do with time is because if stands have no broken ability they lose easily.

[@d3adlock3d51]

The funny part about that is that they still lose in the end besides part 6, I never understood why’d they’re given overpowered stands just to lose to Hard Punchy Man, but it is the JoJo show

[@Lazy-Lizard]

​@@d3adlock3d51 yeah because a battle where the final antagonist has a weak ability like making ants cum but only on Tuesdays would be RIVETING

[@nuggetgod2618]

@@d3adlock3d51 well, to be fair, in part 3, jotaro had also obtained time stop, and managed to be able to move in a time stop, so it was fair that dio died, in part 4 jotaro time stopped which killer queen could not counter and was killed, in part 5 giorno had literally obtained the most broken stand ever right alongside tusk act 4 and wonder of u diavolo didn't stand a chance, and in part 6 they didnt really "beat" pucci, they kinda just created another universe by accident and in part 7, i cant exactly remember, what was d4c's abillity again?

[@Zoomezz]

Well I mean Giorno got req arrow lol

[@notthalis9545]

@@d3adlock3d51 Because it's still a shonen anime. There are heroes and there are villains, and the heroes are naturally favored in the rules of the universe they're in. It's actually an in-universe concept that fate favors heroes over villains, as heroes take their lot in life such as Giorno and the gang while villains usually attempt to subvert their fate, like Diavolo. The Joestar birthmark in and of itself, and the name prefix "Jo-", is a sign that fate has decreed their victory. When Pucci is defeated and the universe resets once more, the characters that replace the part 6 gang such as Irene lack the birthmark, a sign that they have won and that there isn't a need for them to continue fighting evil, anymore.

[@deitylight780]

I'm pretty sure King Crimson and MiH are very detrimental to Dio. Epitaph basically makes it so that Diavolo is virtually untouchable because it can see 10 seconds into the future. In fact Diavolo would just erase whatever donut Dio would've left in him and do it whether effortlessly because everything that happens in time stop is instant. MiH's main ability is actually controlling gravity and making time move really fast and due to Dio's vampirism would be instantly defeated by the sun. Pucci in this case wouldn't even have to throw a punch. Bites the dust is to situational.

[@ignemuton5500]

Dio and diavolo would create a situation yet unknown to us One where diavolo is fated to die, within stopped time dio would definitely be able to set up something to instantly kill diavolo (remember that by the end of part 3 dio reached 11 whole seconds of stopped time) So the question is what would epitaph see? In the end of part 5 G.E.R got around this simply never allowing diavolo to "reach the truth" in his words, diavolo will never die, he will never reach his fated destiny, whether it be him dying or him winning, he will simply never reach it. But hypothetically at least against dio, diavolo's fate would indeed be death. Also of course not to mention the fact that dio is functionally invincible during nighttime so diavolo would have to defeat the world, the stand, the same way jotaro did because dio himself is untouchable except for hamon which technically thats what stands are so supposedly that how jotaro killed him by destroying his stand.

[@pickle5337]

​@@ignemuton5500the length of a time stop doesn't really matter because it happens instantly, or rather 1 sec of time stop and 1 hour of time stop both happen in a single moment in real time. So time skip, if activated before time stop will always outlast time stop, because time skip lasts 10 sec in real time. And because Diavolo has Epitath and can see into the future, he will be able to predict time stop since he would just see himself instantly dying and DIO teleporting. While KC is activated Diavolo cannot take damage. Shown when Aerosmith bullets pass right through him. That is the entire point of KC in the first place, it's a stand that can alter Diavolo's fate while forcing other people to follow their own fate while unconscious, completely confusing them after the ability ends. DIO cannot alter fate in any way shape or form so he shouldn't be able to surpass the time skip, DIOs entire Heaven plan was because he couldn't change fate and he wanted to know the future so he can come to terms with it

[@starsilverinfinity]

MiH's ability to lens time using gravity easily makes it the top time stand - the fact that it can technically also use gravity manip is just another thing ontop of that

[@crackaddict1692]

That's not even the most broken part of MiH. When the universe resets, Pucci becomes able to change his own fate. Pucci literally controls the Gravity of the whole universe, and since gravity and fate are related, he becomes able to control the fate of the whole universe. Many people understimates MiH cause they don't know about that gravity is deeply related to time and fate in JoJo, wich is weird since it is greatly stated through C-Moon, Made in Heaven, Balbreaker and Tusk act 4.

[@iantaakalla8180]

I guess Made in Heaven’s plan was too obtuse, and the spin stands are too linked to “spin” to ever be associated with gravity or fate?

[@crackaddict1692]

@@iantaakalla8180 The Golden Rotation uses gravity in fact. That's the reason why Tusk was able to move in stopped time and even the reason why it was able to interact with Love Train.

[@memesoverheaven5128]

lmao and he was beaten by a side character of jojo p6

[@8minato]

@@memesoverheaven5128 because fate sides with Justice.

[@PFDPRODUCTIONS]

personally in a fight between king crimson(kc) and the world (tw) I think that kc would come out on top, not because of how powerful the stand abilities are but because of the user. If diavolo was forced into a situation where actual danger presented its self I think he wouldn't waste any time dispatching the threat and would most likely be on his toes the whole fight. while Dio has been shown to be a more cocky fighter, preferring to toy with his opponents first rather then killing them out right. now if I'm correct in how they would behave here's how I think the fight would go. Diavolo would be able to tell that Dio used the world with epitaph and would erase that time and get to a safe location from dio, and when time would resume dio would be confused and dumbfounded that someone is capable of dodging his ability. In Dios confusion diavolo would most likely take this opportunity to dispatch dio (this isn't taking into account Dios vampirism, just stand abilities). epitaph is the only real reason that king crimson is so effective and deadly, it allows diavolo to erase the perfect places In time to avoid damage, this is where the world falls short.

[@ayanrahman9371]

you could say that about jotaro but ofc dio will regenerate so there is no use in getting normal blows to him and since diovalo won’t know that dio has the upper hand

[@BappO-is-me]

I actually have the complete opposite stance for the exact same reason: the user. Diavolo has only ever shown to be using epitaph constantly once, and that was when he stole the Joestar technique to chase after SCR. In every other scenario he uses it once, and then leaves himself completely vulnerable to counterattack. Against Bucciarati, he was tagged twice, trapped once, and had his attack dodged once. Against Polnareff, he was tagged once and distracted once. Against GER he was tagged *even though he had epitaph active,* and was surprised by GER coming to fruition anyways. These are the only times he's actually in combat too, save for his first encounter with Polnareff, but since that didnt last long it shouldnt really be considered. Diavolo is arguably more cocky than DIO, as DIO actually kills his opponent the second they actually pose a threat. See when he met Polnareff, he was having a blast just putting him back down the stairs, but right when Silver Chariot came out, he went on the offensive. Against Kakyoin, he showed off his timestop as soon as he found Kakyoin and saw his 20 meter radius emerald splash. As soon as he had a counter to Joseph's Hermit Purple body armor, he used it and killed him instantly. There's also most encounters DIO had with Jotaro, where he was trying to kill Jotaro, albeit in wacky ways. Diavolo is the exact opposite however. He goes for the kill shot as soon as he can, but after he lands his blow he lets everything down and becomes vulnerable to attack from anyone and everyone. Now the real question is whether or not DIO can survive an attack from Diavolo. There's also the question of whether he could avoid the attack altogether, since he's obviously way faster and has much faster reaction times, but for the sake of argument let's say in this scenario DIO is too distracted by the effects of timeskip that he cant dodge the strike. You may question whether DIO can survive by where Diavolo hits DIO, but Im under the opinion that that's not true. In order to be fair we need to take both of our fighters at their maximum potential, which would include blood-high DIO. In this form, DIO was capable of instantly healing both severe brain trauma and multiple holes in his body. Even without his bloodhigh, DIO survived being impaled through the chest fairly fine, just a bit of blood and he was back in fighting shape. Diavolo also never shown any damage outside of a donut or minor damage to the brain. So, this is how I see this fight going down: DIO and Diavolo begin circling eachother. Diavolo has epitaph active constantly, waiting for any sign of attack. He sees DIO teleporting next to Diavolo and a hole forming in his chest instantaneously. Diavolo is confused greatly but he takes this opportunity to finally attack. He activates King Crimson's timeskip, walks behind DIO, undoes his timeskip, and goes for the donut from behind. DIO goes "NANI?!" and then gets donuted. Diavolo begins monologuing, looking over DIO's shoulder and looking at his pained face. Then, DIO timestops and pulls himself off of Diavolo's hand. He looks back at Diavolo, holding his chest, and then scoffed. He didn't know what this ability was, but he knew this was a real threat. He decides to take care of him quickly, and donuts him in the last second of his timestop. His timestop runs out, Diavolo flies back and falls to the floor, convulsing in pain until he eventually meets the fate Kakyoin did.

[@UnintelligentVideos]

If Diavolo doesn't know Dio is a vampire he will try to donut Dio and be in for a rude awakening when Dio is a little annoyed about being impaled, then turns around and punches back

[@Aiden-wg4pu]

Finally, someone who actually explains why they think DIO beats Diavolo. You made plenty of valid points in your argument, except the part where you say DIO is faster than Diavolo, as that is merely an assumption due to the lack of feats by King Crimson. Everyone else in this comment section just blurts out “dios time stop cancels out time skip and dio wins” not even understanding how either ability works, nor do they understand how each character’s personality works. You have my respect, fellow commenter.

[@Triflame.]

​@@BappO-is-meTHIS is clear truth. even if diavolo survived he would easily be outmatched by dio not only because of his vampire form, but also because of stands stats. dio would react to any future timeskips by either attacking diavolo before he attacks him or stopping time directly after timeskip happens.

[@steelnochx3619]

Pretty sure the World's timestop is instant. The example at 2:04 is simply Star Platinum using his movement in Dio's timestop the moment it activates, than proceeds to bash his head in and ending the ability due to the damage.

[@djpeacannon8461]

No that's not what actually happened. Jotaro said once the punch landed that even if DIO got the timestop off, then he would have used his movement to keep going with the punch. This shows the timestop didn't actually happen, even though the anime shows the startup.

[@DarkNinja-bf6hk]

@@djpeacannon8461 so the anime scene was misleading then? Because they showed the timestop happening

[@djpeacannon8461]

@@DarkNinja-bf6hk yeah kinda, although they do keep the line saying the timestop was interrupted and didn't happen

[@CerealIs2Gud]

@@djpeacannon8461 but doesn't that still mean that this "flaw" only exists when he's fighting jotato

[@djpeacannon8461]

@@CerealIs2Gud I don't think so, it's just this situation never came up again

[@klairty4046]

All parts of the tv remote The World - pause Killer Queen - Rewind King Crimson - 5 Seconds skip Made in heaven - fast foward D4C - change channels

[@RX782GP03]

The world also has the added benefit of Dio being a vampire. Damage inflicted to stands also affect the user, but Dio can just regenerate or shrug off alot of attacks. With that Dio still possess at least most of his original vampiric abilities and Jonathan's strength augmented.

[@BlazeMakesGames]

The way I see it, King Crimson is actually the perfect counter to The World. There's no need to speculate what would happen if both abilities activated at once, because it would never have to come down to that. Epitaph would allow him to see into the future and predict whenever Dio would stop time. Now sure, he wouldn't be able to see the stopped time itself or exactly what Dio did, but all he has to do is witness Dio seemingly disappearing/teleporting. Then before Dio would activate the time stop, he Erases the time during which he activated his ability. So no matter what Dio actually did during the stopped time, the entire instant that time was stopped would be erased and Diavolo would be invincible. Now this doesn't necessarily mean Diavolo would be invincible and 100% sure to win. If he simply misses seeing a single Time Stop, or if Dio wises up and hides his timestops by always making sure to return to the same spot that he was standing when he started, it would become a lot harder to see them coming and know what time needs to be erased. So Dio could still very well come out on top, but I could honestly see it going either way. Honestly the bigger deciding factor might be the fact that Dio is a vampire so Diavolo's usual chest punch stabbing wouldn't necessarily be enough to kill him.

[@RandomGuy-ep8jv]

Wouldn't Made in Heaven kill DIO passively. Pucci knows DIO would die in sunlight and we see how quickly the days and nights flew by during Stone Ocean's final fight. Pucci has no reason to engage DIO in a 1v1 when DIO would die in a few seconds anyway

[@ligmanutzdeezballz3999]

why didn't I think of that?

[@memesoverheaven5128]

That's true, but Dio could easily use timestop and kill him before he even activates time acceleration. Jotaro wasn't able to do that cuz he didn't have a longer timestop and didn't have enough stamina. Since Dio has a lot of stamina and a longer time stop, hell would he let Pucci activate his ability, he'd be dead.

[@andrewjamez9741]

@@memesoverheaven5128 didnt jotaro have a longer time stop? Thats how jotaro defeated dio…

[@sacromancrow5915]

@@andrewjamez9741 no. Dio had 11 second and jotoro had 4.

[@memesoverheaven5128]

@@andrewjamez9741 jotaro one cuz he stopped time on the 9 second mark of dio's time stop

[@litchtime5391]

Jotaro could only sense when pucci was around because of Diver Down. If Diver Down wasnt there then Jotaro would have to blindly time stop out of reaction time which could get him killed. Along with time stop being affected by time accel pucci would catch dio off guard and cut his head off because dio could deal a fatal blow. Dios only attak that could hit pucci is space ripper stingy eyes and even then there hard to aim. Overall Pucci kills eveyone here.

[@Pablo_Martin_aa]

Ikr, ppl seem to forget how much of a mvp diver down was and instead just act as if jotaro could beat mih without jolyne there

[@FireMarioX.]

This may not matter but DIO is shown to have extremely heightened reaction time and senses, such as when he deflected the emerald splash with a finger, and also when he tried hearing jotaro's breathing and heartbeat meters away, so DIO may have a shot of reacting to MIH

[@SlewedBoot25934]

Space Ripper Stingy Eyes is not hard to aim. You literally just look at his head and fire, plus he's perfectly still during timestop, which only makes it easier to get a clean headshot.

[@litchtime5391]

@@SlewedBoot25934 Dio Has to charge up his lasers and look for Pucci in ts that he guessed. so its not a gurantee Pucci will be in his range. Plus his ts is extra fast

[@whichDude]

If DIO gets to use vampire powers then Pucci should be able to specifically counter DIO instead of The World. All Pucci would have to do is accelerate night into daytime.

[@annoying_guy923]

man this video is good, it deserves more views.

[@infiniterazing4144]

Dio: Stop Time Diavolo: Erase time Kira: Reverting Time Me: Wasting time

[@KendrickXLamar--]

Fun Jojo fact: All the original universe villians(other than Kars) manipulate time in different ways, and all the new universe ones(so far), deal with ultimate defense and calamities(D4C love train & Wonder Of U) 👀👀

[@CrownedZayne]

dio brando from part 1 doesn't manipulate time

[@plextanius1685]

Technically, made in heaven is not time related, it is only manipulating gravity, at a planetary level. it is using gravity to pull earth’s rotation to a godly speed, while he speeds up because gravity is stronger, everyone else stays the same because they do not have made in heaven’s passive ability of moving faster when gravity is heavier. This was put together using not the english version of stone ocean, but the Japanese one, as the translation is weird.

[@aruan7sp]

"What would happen if The World and King Crimson activated at the same time?" During timestop, the flow of time is halted, Dio would be unaffected by King Crimson, he would be fully conscious during timestop. Remember that King Crimson doesn't alter the flow of time in any way, it just makes everyone move according to fate and become unconscious while doing so. The issue is: King Crimson/Diavolo would be intangible due to their Stand's effect. Dio would try to punch Diavolo and go through him as if he was punching a hologram. Dio would be very annoyed by that fact and, as paranoid as he is, use the remaining timestop to back off and reach a safer distance and try to plan his next move. When timestop ends, Dio would become unconscious due to King Crimson's ability going into full motion and Diavolo would be disturbed by the fact that Dio seemingly teleported away. He would try to reach an advantageous position but, after time skip ends, Dio would timestop again and beat Diavolo. tl;dr Dio wins

[@cringyboi8854]

Most likely when Diavolo erases time for him DIO would just teleport in the erased time. So while DIO is in time stop he would not be conscious as 0 seconds had passed in the erased time. Basically timestop happens in time erase and the actions done by the timestop user are skipped over as actions done in 0 seconds

[@Kira_Yoshikage_part4]

Don't forget about Epitaph, this would be battle of fate, since when would be fate for Diavolo, he could see him punch every time Dio tries to use time stop, if not Diavolo would be screwed.

[@ph-1012]

I think a lot of people misunderstand how Bites The Dust works... the user cannot trigger it, it is placed in a person then them revealing the identity of the user triggers it and the user isn't aware a loop has taken place. Mandom is generally better (not counting killer queens other abilities) for general use.

[@planetlazuli7626]

Mandom can actually go farther than just a few seconds, but Ringo is a true gigachad and kept the “Time Reversal” duration short so he can make the battle “fair”

[@JOLT_x3]

Bro, the only reason that MiH can beat the world is because the user is pucci. He wouldn't want to kill his boyfriend.

[@davidspence1561]

If Dio is at full power and is fighting seriously he would mop the floor with Diavolo.

[@_Sage967_]

i would say it's more of a close fight as we never see King Crimson square up to a stand like The World in physical combat but if we go with the idea that it is the most physically capable humanoid stand that a single blow to the head would kill DIO outright. conversely, if DIO ever pulls of Timestop outside of Time Skip then Diavolo is 100% dead should DIO be out for a sure kill. DIO is certainly MORE likely to win but Diavolo would necessarily get smoked

[@fishyfishyfishy500akabs8]

@@_Sage967_ in character though Diavolo seems to prefer donuts to head explosions. He did it to Bucci and decided that it’s an excellent idea to then instead go for a chop rather than a decapitation even when he saw that he was capable of surviving stuff like that.

[@derpidius6306]

@@_Sage967_ Dio still wins but it isn't a mop imo, I feel when comparing Time Stop and Time Skip, a very important aspect of time is left out, and the fact that time doesn't move at all during time stop. What this means is that, no matter for how many 'seconds' Dio can move in stopped time, all those attacks, all those movements, are compressed into a *single* second, meaning that by erasing that second, with Time Skip you can pretty much avoid Time Stop in its entirety That being said, I doubt Epitaph would be able to comprehend anything that happens in Time Stop at all, as in Diavolo POV, if Dio were to say, walk up and do a pose, Diavolo would see Dio before his pose, preparing to do his pose, and actually doing his pose all at once with no space in-between all in a second. And if Dio's timestop is skipped, what's stopping him from just doing it again immediately after? I feel Diavolo loses because he lacks the means to land a quick kill on Dio, and even if we're generous and assume KC can hold its own in a scrap with TW, Dio by virtue of being a vampire out-lasts Diavolo in every conceivable way

[@Lazy-Lizard]

​@@derpidius6306 YES! THANK YOU! SOMEONE ELSE WHO UNDERSTANDS HOW TIMESTOP VS TIME SKIP WOULD WORK! though, I do think Diavolo definitely has a chance of winning in this matchup, ultimately depends on who's quicker at adapting their strategies

[@_Sage967_]

@@derpidius6306 i made these exact points in a different comment. basically, Diavolo's time skip would skip DIO's timestop completely if it was done within timeskip which should be obvious because DIO would still be IN skipped time even if he stopped it for an infinite amount of time. Epitaph also wouldn't be much help because it's already been shown not to handle time manipulation well a la GER. meaning that it'd only show volo regular time

[@Ninjya44]

You are the first youtuber I've seen comment on this. It's something I noticed a while back, yet none of the big names brought it up. Nicely done.

[@SpicyClover]

Before I even watch this video, I'm picking Diavolo. He was smart, cautious, merciless and could basically rewrite/see his future. The man had such hax abilities and the fact that he lost to a stand with even MORE HAX shows that without Giorno intervening, he would've been unstoppable.

[@thecomet653]

My ranking -king crimson -the world -made in heaven -killer queen -mandem I put this cuz king crimson can use time erase right before a time stop, making him invincible and basically skipping the time stop. And, he can use epitaph to predict when hes gonna time stop so he can basically get out of it every time. Now its just a battle without time stop and king crimson can still predict the future. He would win easily.

[@ultragamerpro2332]

Mih can decelerate time, since it’s controls gravity in theory. This basically allows it to time stop so yeh.

[@mohammedwaheedkk]

Kira gets a friend. Plants bites the dust. The guy walking telling everybody his friend is kira. Everyone dies.

[@beywheelzhater8930]

Ah yes, because Kira is known for his healthy social life and wide arrange of non-stand user allies to plant Bites the Dust on and will definitely not get blitzed in any way during the hour it will take for these powerful stand users to blow on this direct fight Kira is the least likely person to win because, simply put it, his win condition is WAAAY too hard for him to get off if he is directly being attacked by people who just have all around better abilities for blitzing someone with a OHKO. Hell, even if he does get it off and fate everyone to die, Diavolo can exempt himself from fate with his time skip and just skip over his own death to continue fighting

[@beywheelzhater8930]

Honestly even if we do get someone with a friend the stand ability, after all this is a comparison of the stand not the user, it still is gonna get pretty much ratio'd

[@Jean_.]

People seem to forget that diavolo has epitaph, he can literally just predict dio/jotaro's time stop and erase time until the time stop finishes.

[@CrownedZayne]

he won't see anything that happens during the time stop and wouldn't even be able to predict what would happen as even with epitaph he'd just see dio and the next thing he'd see is himself getting killed

[@ZAPRST8879]

@@CrownedZayne he wouldn't be able to see time stop but he will see himself be absolutely obliterated by the result of time stop and then time erase

[@iblemairplayz6351]

Im pretty sure what Diavolo sees is: Jotaro/Dio just teleporting and sees himself flying off. But Diavolo could counter Jotaro's time stop (5 seconds) by using King Crimson before hand. But to avoid Dio's time stop (11 seconds) he would need to activate Time Erasure at the exact time Dio activates his time stop

[@humanrye8696]

Tape recorder is main villain of the entire series xD ⏪- Killer Queen ⏹- Za Warudo ⏺- King Crimson ⏩- Made in Heaven

[@jishnuprogamingroblox421]

Imagine if The World Over Heaven wasn't simply a game character and actually in the show.

[@frankiemadwood5610]

Bro ur the definition of gigachad u should have way more subs

[@julgador6286]

Actually, i really think diavolo could easily destroy The World, and i will try to explain it. The thing about this fight is time erase and time stop window, the first who attacks win, however, diavolo with epitath could easily see what would happen to him before 10 seconds, and because time stop isnt on the time saw or erased, he could avoid the damage that dio could inflict ( using time erase after he saw the effects of his time stop ), and after that, simply destroy his stomatch like he did with every other stand user.

[@jojosupreme224]

Yea but a donut isn’t enough to kill dio he’ll just regen

[@sleeper5905]

@@jojosupreme224 but pucci, if he wanted, could easily kill dio and diavolo for dio, well, sun and moon cycling at mach 30 speed and for diavolo, his time erasure would just fail because time just went faster that 10 sec is like 1/100000000 sec edit: and also, made in heaven is a gravity based stand not time based, just read the manga

[@goodboi1725]

@Sleeper time is based on gravity itself, which is why Mercury has a faster day than Earth because the Sun’s gravity affected it first, meaning it has the closest orbit.

[@Grimnoire]

I think we're really underestimating just how busted the world and time stop with dio really is. Even strong abilities like cream were no match for DIO... Being able to stop time even for one second puts you on the upper hand, whats to stop DIO from just using the world after time skip. We're just assuming DIO wouldn't notice Diavolo standing behind him and would also just let diavolo attack him? Polnereff got the drop on DIO though so that's fair I guess... but this is a distracted DIO... and then he just heals from a wound through the skull... so, how much is a blow to the abdomen going to do really...? He DID get donutted by jotaro also-- be honest-- Diavolo doesn't stand a chance. How strong is king crimson really though, so he can donut people... so could crazy diamond... Does that mean josuke could beat the world? I highly doubt that... The world is ripping off car doors and throwing buildings. King crimson is working at a bakery... I really don't think King crimson is a strong stand it's less durable and has worse feats, there's no instance in all of jojo media where KC stands out on top. In all the games The world is always beating time erase... I think if the world erases time while Diavolo is in time erase Diavolo would just die... there's nothing he could do. *Diavolo uses time skip* -walks up to DIO -raises arm *DIO stops time* -sees Diavolo's clown as -sends him flying team rocket style *screen fades to black with a circle shape around DIO's head* DIO: *winks* *FIN*

[@Grimnoire]

@@sleeper5905 It's time based the gravity part was the joestar bloodline being drawn to itself... the evolution goes: Base stand>Gravity>Heaven Regardless of stand they would all get these abilities... It's basically what the user wants and is most favorable for them Pucci gets to make his perfect universe DIO gets his infinite time stop Realistically it doesn't control gravity in any understandable way, we as a species also don't know what the fuck gravity is anyway... for the longest time we all thought gravity was a force, but some now believe it's just the effect of another force... Whatever this stand does it has nothing to do with you standing on the ground or jumping high on the moon... trust me. If you want, we can pretend it works like echoes and he can switch between the transformations. (which would make no sense tbh)

[@SyberSenpaiGGEZ]

"ZA. WURDO! OVA HAVEN" And thats a gg for all jojo villans.

[@mihailopopovic4759]

Have in mind that took Jotaro and 4 other stand users to able to barly stop Pucci. The World has longer ts than Star Platinum but I think it is nullified by not having a suport.

[@whichDude]

Seriously. Anasui giving warnings was only reason Jotaro could guess win Pucci was near. Once Anasui was taken out group failed.

[@iantaakalla8180]

Diver Down is also a hell of a shield as well. No matter what, when Anasui died, everyone else would have died.

[@cosmicdude8282]

King Crimson is op af. KC ability won't be affected by the time stop or time acceleration because he literally erase the time, TW only stops it. Imagine this as a sequence from 1 to 10, let's say Diavolo activated KC and say Dio stopped time in the number 5 for 6 seconds, it will look like this 1 10 (for a "normal" time perspective) 1 2 3 4 5 5 5 5 5 5 6 7 8 9 10 (for Dio perspective ) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 (for Diavolo perspective) Yes, Diavolo will be stuck in time for those 6 seconds, but he will still erase it, in his perspective, Dio just teleported when he activated TW, also, when KC erase time, the rest of people enters in some kind of "automatic mode" where they just do the actions they planned before the time erase, they can't react to where KC moves or even see it (as we see in his fight with Bruno, where Bruno was attacking blindly). Also KC not only erase time, he also jumps to the future in the moment he activates it. KC is way op than the people think, you can't stop a time that never existed and you can't accelerate a time that doesn't exists, It's so op that Araki was forced to use the Requiems Edit: (Also, he can spam it without "cooldown" as we see while running with Mista's body)

[@thegamingkeyblade7066]

All the "The world wins" are highly based on the scenario. Bite the dust would still go off it was already being used when time was stopped. And if dio exploded, that's just it, he can't come back. Made in heaven. The sun is literally always in the sky, you die. Pucci took a step back, you die. Pucci is at least some what used to time stop at the point that he gets made in heaven. Diavolo. Dio probably does win this, but that's because we have no idea how the stands would interact and are purely going of stats as if this was part 3. Diavolo has a substand, that allows him to see the future. He might not be able to see time stop, but he could see the future where doesn't die and one where dio dies, in which he would force that future to happen.

[@gonzaloandroid6428]

Bites the dust would be dangerous to The world but you have to remember other than the abilities The World far surpasses the stats of killer queen. Plus Dio himself can match the speed and strength of the world so this fight becomes increasingly harder to decide. Dio compared to Kira as a stand user would be comparing a child to batman. THAT'S..... Actually a good comparison I myself am surprised.

[@thegamingkeyblade7066]

@@gonzaloandroid6428 Yeah but killer queen one shots.

[@gonzaloandroid6428]

@@thegamingkeyblade7066 bruh the world one shots too even without time stop.

[@thegamingkeyblade7066]

@@gonzaloandroid6428 Not in the same way though. Donut doesn't vaporize you in Meer seconds. Kaiokyin( I forgor how to spell hierophant green user name) lived for at least 10 seconds after getting absolutely destroyed by the world. This is why I think it's more even then it seems.

[@gonzaloandroid6428]

@@thegamingkeyblade7066 then how about decapitation

[@superspartan8086]

The amount of people who think The World is better than King Crimson is crazy. Lemme break this down for y’all DIO simps For starters DIO would never be able to utilize his ability due to A Epitaph and B Diavolo’s ability just being faster to activate it. DIO absolutely 100% HAS to go through the process of activating it in which as Jotaro showed that it could be interrupted and whilst Diavolo took a right hook from Sticky Fingers which yes isn’t nearly is strong as Star Platinum is still an incredibly dangerous stand. Diavolo still activated his ability even though he took almost the same hit. Plus it’s also been shown Diavolo can start and end his ability within milliseconds of each other. And if people would say “well DIO can spam Time Stop more than Diavolo can spam Time Erase” no DIO can’t. Diavolo has demonstrated the ability to repeatedly use Time Erase within at least 1 second of each other. Time Erase also lasts 1 second longer than prime Time Stop. Another incorrect argument is that “The World is faster” which is just simply wrong. Diavolo fought Polnareff in a 1 on 1 not too different from how Polnareff successfully snuck DIO whilst he was “fighting” Jotaro. Part 3 would’ve ended right there if DIO wasn’t an immortal vampire. DIO than punched Polnareff with the same force he was fighting Jotaro with and killed Kakyoin with and Polnareff didn’t even take any serious damage from it. But when Diavolo ran up on Polnareff he tried that very same maneuver and got stomped because of it. The World may be faster in combat speed but so is Sticky Fingers and we all know how that went. Speed is really irrelevant to King Crimson because of Epitaph. King Crimsons reaction speed is also much better than The Worlds proven by when Giorno shot that canonically light speed rock at Diavolo and he was able to dodge it just enough to where it wasn’t lethal. That attack was absolutely supposed to 1 and done Diavolo but he dodged to the point where he only took any damage in his hand. Strength also goes to King Crimson that goes without saying everybody knows that Intellect also goes to Diavolo. DIO really isn’t that smart of a fighter. All he had was an interesting ability and a lot of charisma. DIO really never showed any real intelligence. The smartest thing he did was remember where Joseph’s body was and grab the knives from the store. Jotaro beat him due to superior intelligence and being able to counter his ability. Diavolo on the other hand in an incredibly intellectual fighter. He does have his flaws and that was shown in his 1 of 2 losses (just like DIO lol) when he got overconfident with Buccaratti and ultimately allowed him to get away. However Buccaratti is one of the top 5 smartest fighters in all of JoJo (confirmed by a data book) and was only allowed to barely make it out alive. Diavolo’s ability also has way more potential than Time Stop and while it is cannon Time Stop gets stronger every time DIO uses it it’s also cannon Diavolo’s ability to Erase Time has infinite potential for growth as confirmed by his stand stats which everybody just seems to conveniently forget about.

[@imafkingbeastandrewtateise9563]

Made in heaven’s ability isn’t time acceleration, it’s the ability to control all gravity in the universe.

[@Fugitive685]

Gravity is similar to time. Okuyasu should be up there

[@browdoe]

And also has infinite speed in stats

[@imafkingbeastandrewtateise9563]

@@Fugitive685 he isn’t a villain

[@xjkmr1]

made in heaven accelerates time my dude. Cmoon controls gravity. My dude did u think trough how mih would work if it was gravity control instead?

[@_Sage967_]

@@xjkmr1 i think the way you should be interpreting it is: MiH manipulates Gravity which in a way is manipulating space in some regard. space is directly related to time. therefore by manipulating space MiH is capable of manipulating time without having the ability to expressly do so or at least that's what I'm getting

[@thomasparkin259]

I think The World sweeps, the other stands ultimately depend on time moving. You can't really turn back time, erase a stretch of time or accelerate it if time is frozen. Add on Dio's intelligence and growing power thanks to his vampiric might and he could only really lose due to a surprise attack. Easier said than done.

[@thomasparkin259]

@truesky444 He can only erase time if time is happening. With time frozen what is there to erase?

[@Zachman-bj5ju]

King crimsons ability is kinda weird since he threw his own blood at Giorno to blind him so in theory he can interact with some things around him, but if he would go against DIO he would lose. Not because he cant beat him, but because DIO is a vampire and can regenerate. Now if it was against Jotaro I think Diavolo can win. Epitaph can see into the future so Diavolo can just erase time and kill Joatro before he can react since it has been shown that you do not remember how you got there only that it has happened. I think King Crimsons abilities are much better in my opinion as it took JOJO to create one of the most over powered stands to be able to counter it. So id put it KC > The World / Star platinum > MIH > KQBTD in order. Do I think Diavolo can beat DIO, no due to his vampire powers, but if he did not have them then yes I do.

[@russianbot5302]

Basically during time erase, Diavolo and extensions of Diavolo are exempt from fate while nothing else is. This means that fate essentially gets rewritten when time erase ends to account for Diavolo being alive and interacting with the world. When time erase ends, fate would be rewritten to account for the thrown blood by making Giorno blind from the blood.

[@AmelpsXett]

TW/SP>MiH only if there is some protection (like Annasui) and TW/SP>KQBTD only if Kira is literally forced to fight

[@excalibur2772]

I'm pretty sure he threw his blood and it stopped right before hitting Polnareff

[@kiryuu-yanagi]

The World full true potential can be showcase by Dio because since he was no longer a human being having the chance to have infinite (not really but long duration) time stop Sadly he let his guard down Like come on what else do you need Strong Power,Lightspeed attacks,Good precion,and Time stop You can just pretty much use objects to throw like Dio to cover up it's weakness of short range

[@Asmokedetector]

The thing is, The World might be the pound for pound best stand, but Diavalo has two stands. With epitaph, Dio could never touch Diavalo.

[@FireMarioX.]

The tricky thing about this is just how would epitath even see Timestop?

[@aurorathomson2051]

What would stop dio from just stopping time and punching a massive hole in diavolos face

[@Asmokedetector]

@@FireMarioX. explain to me, why would he need to? Really think about that. If all he sees with epitaph is that his head will explode, that's enough for him to skip time.

[@Asmokedetector]

@@aurorathomson2051 epitaph, diavalo doesn't know dio, he wouldn't just rush in, he'd use epitaph before anything else, epitaph would be his first move. Dio on the other hand isn't likely to attack before then. If dio doesn't know diavalo, then he will also study his ability before attacking, which diavalo won't show. And if dio does know diavalo, he most likely won't want to kill him, as his ability is something he'd want on his side to help achieve heaven. If dio doesn't stop time and try to kill diavalo instantly, which he has no reason to do, then he will never touch diavalo.

[@FireMarioX.]

@@Asmokedetector and then what.... he appears behind a confused DIO to get hit by a thought activated spammable timestop again?

[@freefallfirebat4218]

Something you mentioned in your video that I think let’s pucci win overall is that his time acceleration does effect humans, as seen when he turns a child into a grown adult at the super market. It’s just in the final battle he doesn’t want people to age and die he wants everyone to “see heaven” also known as their whole lives fate. So he keeps them alive to witness the whole universe then reset it so they can live their lives again knowing what will happing to them but being unable to change their actions only following fate. So all other human stand users would lose to age if pucci wanted to, dio the vampire would be able to live longer but would have to always avoid the spinning sun.

[@jouskehigaskita8835]

Killer queen is easily the weakest and gets mopped by the other 3. The world has regen and is on par with star platinum so king crimson gets beat by the world. The world loses to made in heaven and stopping time isn't as good as accelerating existence

[@iantaakalla8180]

When for some reason, Kira engineers a plan where he meets with Diavolo/DIO/Pucci and invites a referee, they all introduce themselves, tells the one he stands the most (referee) his real name, then activates Bites The Dust in order to end the battle before it is begun just because Kira knows that he is massively outmatched by every other time villain save Roadagain. Very contrived, but that is the only way Kira could win. I should note that the specific moment would involve DIO being real close to this referee with his head touching the body of the referee so that his brain would be blown up beyond recognition entirely even given that Kira’s bomb disintegrate stuff.

[@Specter9]

In a direct collision, btd is certainly the weakest and most difficult to implement ability, but if at least one of them learns Kira's identity from a person with activated btd, no one will be able to survive the explosion, after stopping time or erasing time, an explosion will still occur, nothing can happen to Kira himself, because he will be too far from a booby-trapped man

[@rrendre4138]

Pucci obviously. It negates the affects of the other two while doing considerably more. He also reset time with it too and got his wish, which the other two didn’t do with their own strength.

[@locaszm]

Actually, the world's ability is not to stop time, it is to grant the user's will. Dio can stop time because Enya told him he can do it, and then he started to believe in his soul he can stop time. That's why Dio keeps evolving the time stop, since he believes he is becoming more and more overpowered. And if you realise that he started to think that Jotaro can stop time, and then he does stop time, everything fits in this teory. If i'm wrong about something, tell me.

[@moe1115]

how did u come up with that :

[@ulfulfen6561]

Does not add up. Dio does not think anyone except him can move in timestop and it's only after he sees Jotaro flinch in the freezed time that he believes he can move.

[@locaszm]

@@ulfulfen6561 yeah i forgot to put that in but he did believed that jotaro can move during time stop anyway

[@locaszm]

@@moe1115 I remember seeing that in a video

[@ulfulfen6561]

@@locaszm He did not. Watch it again. The first time he goes to kill Jotaro he has no idea that he can move, that is why he becomes scared after seeing him flinch in stopped time.

[@bhz6071]

Ger is not a direct time stand but just the nature of his stands ability makes it so he has to be able to manipulate time, i.e Ger removes all causes so the only way to do that is just completely eliminate the cause for example if someone throws a knife at me and I get stabbed removing the knife from existence would eliminate the cause or reverting time like Ger does to where the action never happened

[@j.s.ospina9861]

Bites the Dust is very situational, but very powerful too. Given the right situation it can kill pretty much everyone on this list. This because the explosion is technically instantaneous, meaning once it is set, it won't give you time to react. Perhaps King Crimson could escape it somehow, but Dio couldn't, nor Pucci, because they could not react to try and dodge the ability. Obviously Bites the Dust is not a battle stand. Try to make it a battle and Bites the Dust will lose. Surely if Kira is walking by and everyone else knows who who is he and can kill him right there and then Bites the Dust is rather useless.

[@nicolasleal5644]

*Laughs in sheer heart attack*

[@7even799]

@@nicolasleal5644 sheer heart attack isn’t that op it’s gimmick can be figured out easily and it can be easily trapped or distracted Koichi an inexperienced young fighter was able to stay one step ahead of sha

[@eddievirger9927]

This is pretty cool! I think that in the end The World comes out on top and that any shortcomings that it may have are ultimately cancelled out by Dio's own speed and strength. It would be a close fight between father Pucci and Dio because of the shortened time but I think Dio wins because he can do and take more damage during the timespan. Another question would be whether the increased speed of the day and night cycles would harm Dio or not.

[@comrade2826]

I feel like crimson can stop anyone of the stands, epitaph can see the future for 10 seconds it's possible the user can see when the world's timestoping and could try to skip his time stop, bites the dust is useless against stand users so obviously killer queen loses, and king crimson could blind made in heaven with his blood in time erase

[@rrrocky_15____]

Diavolo cant skip time if there isnt any time

[@diorkster]

Can’t erase stopped time

[@Junpeidaman190]

You can't stop time in a world without time 💀

[@GratefulMessiah]

@@rrrocky_15____ Yeah but diavolo's body wouldn't exist during timestop. The person freezing time would obey fate while punching air. Disvolo would see them teleport suddenly, but he'd still be safe in erased time

[@konstantinkachanovsky2960]

Pucci already defeated Jotaro with his time stop, so Dio shouldn't be a problem, but I'm not sure about Diavolo

[@niicciiss]

You failed to mention that bites the dust can only be placed on non stand users

[@jayfugazi9751]

and the fact that kira doesnt actually know if time has been rewinded

[@ratedr7845]

Since when was that stated

[@rorank]

Cool vid homie, but I would like to point something out here. BTD can only be put on a non stand user, which I don’t think is mentioned. Also, when BTD activates only the person who Kira has placed it on remembers going backward in time. That’s why, especially against a villain like Dio who doesn’t care a ton about hiding himself, I think Kira could easily assassinate him. All he has to do is send a non stand user to Dio’s hideout and have them tell every person they see his identity. It may take a few loops, but nobody has any counter to this. In fact, the only person who can realistically stop BTD is the person who it is placed on unless someone already knows Kira’s identity and wants to battle him while KQ is unavailable. That’s all assuming prep time, ofc which BTD needs for something like this since it’s not exactly a “battle” kind of ability but more of an automatic defense.

[@toehairyum]

Let's be real here, GER was only left out because it would wipe the floor with literally any other stand in the series xD

[@joyless95]

Also antagonists and the fact GER isn’t a time stand and it would probably have trouble if not outright lose to tusk act 4

[@skippydinglechalk.]

Finally, someone who can actually explain how KC works in less than 3 sentences

[@Roka44]

But Made In Heaven can move with the speed of reality on full speed, if it can reach that he can win. Just bc of the speed 1 attack could be deadly. But ye za warudo win

[@mohammedwaheedkk]

I think that bites the dust can be activated during time stop and skip since it is basically a kind of requiem and requiems precede all stands

[@miranhaespada1381]

Bro, Diavolo has 0 chances against the world Just think, if Dio stops time before, he wins, because he can attack during stopped time, it's impossible to defend and KC has low resistance and TW has a huge destruction power If Diavolo gets the advantage and get behind Dio and attack him when the time returns, he's also dead If Bruno could react after the first KC attack, holding KC harm with a zipper, Dio would just did the same thing he did with Silver Chariot, stop time and hit him The only chance Diavolo has is if he gets the advantage and with Dio's head, but not even StarPlatinum could InstaKill Dio with a hit on the head. And, it probably won't do that, Diavolo basically just attack the chest, not the head

[@GratefulMessiah]

Dio never can stop time before diavolo can erase it. Epitaph would show diavolo that he was suddenly obliterated somewhere within the next 10 seconds. Diavolo would have no choice but to erase time in response. In what universe would diavolo see a new enemy and not try to preempt them?

[@redlowtrg0028]

The thing with King Crimson against The World is that for King Crimson's case specifically, due to the many ways you can interpret the functions of Time Erase, we have to agree that King Crimson allows Diavolo to either move during Time Stop or not. Due to that reason, Diavolo either wins or loses to DIO in multiple different ways. One way that Diavolo wins is if King Crimson *actually* erases time, yet puts diavolo outside of time as to make him unaffected by the ability. which would mean he wouldn't be affected by Time Stop, even though his Time Erase would be temporarily frozen. One way Diavolo loses is if King Crimson doesn't exclude Diavolo from the effects of Time Stop due to him still being tied to the flow of time, which DIO's ability has a hold of. On the aspect of what would happen if their abilities happen at the same time, based on evidence present in official sources. Let's just say for argument's sake that both Diavolo is frozen from Time Stop *and* DIO is stuck within Time Erase. DIO would have no memory of his Time Stop and Diavolo would be incapable of moving for a short period of time, albeit Diavolo would be intangible during the Time Stop. DIO has a defined time limit to the duration of his ability given explicitly to us through the show and manga, Diavolo has no defined limit to his ability that we've been informed of. For all we know, we could suspect Diavolo could erase an undefined amount of time if he so wishes, or he could do so only for so long. On the aspect of how long their abilities would last against each other simultaneously, given if Diavolo had the shorter end of the stick when holding onto Time Erase in comparison to DIO's Time Stop. Using logic and reasoning, if Diavolo is temporarily frozen in time and his Time Erase is frozen with him, it would make sense that Diavolo's ability will remain active throughout the entirety of Time Stop and beyond, no matter how long Time Stop lasts for. Since Diavolo doesn't have the time to do or undo anything, he is stuck in the frame he is originally in at the beginning of Time Stop, a frame where he has a hold over Time Erasure. He will stay in that frame for as long as DIO keeps his ability active, meaning Diavolo will resume having to actively maintain his Time Erase the moment DIO's ability inactivates. On a different point, this would mean that Diavolo can keep DIO within the confines of Time Erase even after Time has Stopped and resumed. From the points I've previously discussed, I believe that although DIO has an impenetrable defense and offense, Diavolo's ability grants him superior defense against DIO"s ability, during their simultaneous activations.

[@greezchum76]

Didnt it say time erase happens up to ten seconds

[@Jkeler]

GER actually is a time stand, so it can revert Time back to its normal self

[@thekingofspeed8960]

Honestly who even cares. JoJo fans can’t even agree whether GER manipulates time, causality, or fate 🤷‍♂️

[@zeefk904]

@@BUR404 hes not right GER is causality manipulation

[@BUR404]

@@zeefk904 Honestly, I've seen people debating on this too much to really decide for myself lol. I assumed it was time manipulation when I saw the visual effect

[@exoticbutters1025]

It is a casualty Manipulation ability, that reverts time and action to the point where the willpower was 0, hence changing fate.

[@Hirusocool]

In eoh Giorno says that ger ability is to not let ppl reach the truth and nothing more idk if it's canon tho

[@BappO-is-me]

People really still be thinking Diavolo has a chance against DIO? Pucci I can see why, but Diavolo? Literally no chance

[@nigelxd3735]

One thing, time stop shouldn't be spamable since each time stop takes a lot of stamina from the user, but DIO wad able to spam it due him being a vampire and having way more stamina not to mention he drank blood twice in the figh he had with Jotaro

[@itsZaiba]

If Diavolo knew about Dio's stand ability, he could use epitaph to see when Dio is about to TS. Like you said, its not like Dio doesn't move in TE, he does his time stop. With King Crimsons ability activated, Dio's attack would miss since Diavolo can now freely move in TS since Dio only moves because of fate(Dio punches the air where Diavolo would have been without TE, and even is diavolo frooze, the attack would go through him). Afterwards, Diavolo can prefire an attack like he did with many people in the series, and it would obviously catch Dio of guard, meaning an easy hit. If Dio were human, it would end like this. But it's too hard to predict when he is a vampire.

[@lebyandsmartiel318]

I think one thing Pucci has on his side is that he could technically age people, but he didn't in the main story as that would go against what he was aiming to achieve with the Heaven plan. iirc there's nothing to say Pucci "Couldn't" do it. Similarly with Mandom the watch is connected to Ringo's sense of the fair duel, he himself setting it as a restriction so that the fight isn't one sided. Not that either adds much credit to this kind of matchup.

[@sysyishot7859]

He couldn’t, he could accelerate non-living things which is why Jotaro and Ermes bodies started to decay so quickly

[@bitterthenu7278]

@@sysyishot7859 remember the baby that c moon accelerated?

[@8cxg392]

1:55 Here we can hear a faint squeal of happiness from Star Platinum.

[@IBBY_YaboyEON]

Or how do u have so little subs??? Ur underrated af

[@pacoramon9468]

Diavolo gives you 10 second amnesia.

[@insuranceagency5200]

"a walk-in freezer could instantly freeze you stiff almost instantly"

[@nova_0985]

yes gold experience is a timestand and he is the best stand because he is able to go back in time to undo all the damage he has suffered

[@pacoramon9468]

The counter of Made in Heaven is literally any time ability because it doesn’t matter how fast you move when the other moves throw time.

[@epicjayjaysw8708]

Anyone else notice how after the reset the antagonists went from controlling time to controlling space?

[@bluekawashima-9012]

How does Wonder of U control space

[@awsomespecs]

Heres a little something for king crimson, Diavolo can attack as soon as time resumes basically being immediate attack. King crimson can project epitaph on other things which can confuse enemies. The world is better until king crimson gets those weird fate hacks like " oh I saw you getting hit by me in epitaph so I will erase time and finish the job " good vid btw. Dio vs Diavolo is basically " who uses their ability first " the battle because if any of them use their ability then the other loses simple like that, erase time has all of its complicated mechanics and time stop has its self explanatory mechanics.

[@TheWonder_Of_You]

diavolo could have used epitath to see into the future too see the aftermath of the timestop, and since diavolo is cautios he would suspect something and skip the stopped time catching dio off guard dealing a ( possibly) fatal blow ( im sorry im anything is wrong gramatically english is not my native language

[@frosty6750]

AFAIK, Kira didn´t knew about Bites the Dust Activations, he even asked Hayato how many times he started the day again.

[@gren8te319]

3:40 might be the most existentially horrifying stand because it speeds up time on an intergalactic scale. it basically makes the user alien x from ben 10

[@reignellwalker9755]

i subscribed. keep up the good work i think if you continue to make jojo content like this you will really blow up. i thought you was a famous youtuber judging by how good the video was oh and i subscribed so yea

[@Aj-py8en]

Bites the Dust counters the world hard since it's an unavoidable delete if you activate the bomb, and then the delete is fated to happen on each successive loop unless the ability is cancelled. Even if Dio stopped time after the bomb was activated, it would just delete him after time stop ran out, and with Kira's nature it's incredibly unlikely for Dio to be able to kill Kira before the bomb is activated. This doesn't apply to king crimson since it avoids fate all together. The bomb might go off and loop time but he wouldn't be damaged from it at all. And even if he was, in the following loops epitaph would simply show himself getting deleted and he would skip past it. King crimson also trumps the world, BUT Dio being a vampire puts him way above Diavolo. Dio would be even more confused by the time skip since he would be able to move much more than other people, since if he activates time stop during time skip it would add more time. Diavolo wouldn't be able to see Dio moving during time stop, but he would be able to see him teleporting around, and with epitaph he would have the opportunity to skip it. Dio would have to use time stop before king crimson could skip time, which is really hard with Diavolos secretive nature and Epitaph. But even with all that, Diavolo would have to destroy Dio's head with one strike to kill him, which would make the match up much harder. However the video is about the stands so King Crimson Wins. Made in Heaven counters Time Stop and Time Erasure, and gets countered by Bites the Dust. The time that epitaph could see into the future and the time stop and skip could be used is drastically shortened while made in heaven is using its time acceleration. Even Dio as a vampire couldn't move or react fast enough to kill Pucci at the later ends of time acceleration not including the drastically shorter nights, and all Diavolo could do is avoid lethal attacks with increasing precision needed until the universe reset and he survives it. However if Bites the Dust is activated at any point and deletes Pucci, Pucci is locked out of using time acceleration or else he just causes the fated death to happen faster. If the bomb is activated more than an hour after time acceleration begins (not that long since time is accelerated) time would still be accelerated when Bites the Dust causes a loop giving Pucci even less time to react and find Kira. Time stop counters pretty much every conventional stand, but it's no match for abilities that deal with fate or shorten the time stop. It's Dio's nature as a vampire that really gives him an edge over other users being more durable, having regeneration, and hitting harder. They have to do more to physically kill him and he has to do less (bites the dust doesn't count) So; Bites the Dust counters The World and Made in Heaven King Crimson counters The World and Bites the Dust Made in Heaven counters The World and King Crimson The World wins if Time Stop can be activated and the user killed before any other abilities activate. Really hard with Diavolo and Kira. Dio counters Diavolo, Pucci, and Kira GER counters everything but Time Acceleration (still counters any direct attacks from Pucci)

[@aryanfayyadh7921]

GER and Bites The Dust is kinda the same but instead of the person suffering from repeated death, the people they care about will have their death repeated over and over again except that the repeated death only happens when another Stand user sees Bites The Dust so if you somehow manage to get rid of your enemies in the world with Bites the Dust and prevent the person afflicted with Bites The Dust from finding another Stand user, you could have a very peaceful life seeing as not a lot of Stand users exist around the world without the intentional use of the Stand arrow unless that person is able to stall you and get you into a fight against an enemy.

[@Imcringe769]

If the world and King Crimson activate at the same time it would cancel Because KC skip 10 secs and TS last 9 secs This is what would happen: Dio stops time and KC time erase *dio stops time* but it would skip the TS because it only last 9 secs while KC time erase last 10 secs

[@unlimitedpower4783]

I feel like each "era" of JoJo's has similar boss themes. Part 1 and 2 (Dio/Kars) have different types of immortality. Part 3, 4, 5 and 6 (Dio, Kira, Diavolo, Pucci) all have different forms of time manipulation. And Part 7 and 8 (Funny Valentine and Tooru) are both to do with misfortune. WoU manipulates the flow of calamity and D4C can redirect misfortune.

[@theoria555]

D4C Love Train still stands as the most powerful enemy stand, unless we count The World Over Heaven as canon

[@kotoamatsukami1112]

People forget dio does not actually have to say the world and the world does not have to be out for him to stop time

[@mochachino56]

King Crimson's main ability is running from fate. Its the weakest time related ability for fighting. The world and Star Platinum's ability of timestop is remain the strongest for fighting purposes. -Dio wants immortality, so he gets time stopping ability -Kira wants to fix his mistake (killing hayato), so he gets time rewind ability. -Diavolo wants to change his fate to his desire, so he gets an ability to predict future and an ability to change it. -Made in Heaven time acceleration is just side effect of his purpose of creates "heaven".

[@gmanplaysgames256]

I think King Crimson vs The World is a tossup between who activates their ability first. If Dio is able to surprise Diavolo he wins instantly but if Diavolo sees him coming I imagine that Epitaph would show Dio blinking from place to place via Time Stop and Diavolo would then erase time and hit Dio at his final position post time-stop (as in if Dio's Time Stop were triggered during the skipped 10 seconds. Diavolo would move to attack Dio and Dio would forget he had already stopped time and get donuted) Diavolo would then notice that Dio can regenerate form his wounds so he would just watch with Epitaph until Dio brings The World out again, erase time, and attack The World.

[@BT-rl3nt]

I’m pretty certain that king crimson can interact with things while it skips, for example giornarancia is shown to be sort of teleporting on top of the spikes, which would only happen if diavolo put him there in skipped time. The stand is also shown moving out of the way of attacks, which also suggests that it can interact with its enemies in skipped time. Therefore, the dio vs diavolo matchup is just based on who can activate their ability first.

[@tryinglyon]

Diavolo cannot physically interact with objects within the erased time. He is, however, completely intangible with what touches him. The reason why Narancia was killed was because that's what fate intended for him, but since Diavolo eliminates himself from fate within the erased time, the action occurred without his direct involvement even though it was always fated to be him who killed Narancia.

[@BT-rl3nt]

@@tryinglyon I don’t see how he’s able to throw blood though, nor why he feels the need to dodge mistas bullets.

[@tryinglyon]

@@BT-rl3nt The blood he throws is no longer a part of himself, it becomes separate. And yeah he dodges Mista's bullets, but he didn't do the same when Aerosmith casually blasted through him in the conclusion of the Metallica arc.

[@BT-rl3nt]

@@tryinglyon that’s what I’m saying about the blood. If he’s intangible and can’t interact with the world, why can he casually throw something?

[@tryinglyon]

@@BT-rl3nt Because his blood, the blood that is in his body, is intangible just like he himself is in the erased time. But the second it's released outside of him, it becomes apart of that forgotten time. Diavolo couldn't just pick a gun up from the ground and shoot someone, but he could throw his blood which has a severed connection to him.

[@ennard3866]

Ger is not a villain stand, so it could be missed in this video

[@spysmocking4536]

If you look up the time manipulation superpower in superpower wiki you will notice that the time flow manipulating abilities (time stop and acceleration) are among the ‘basic applications/sub-powers’. The only one we did not have is time deceleration (the opposite of acceleration). There is many more applications listed there. Also It does not make sense to me how would time stop be “shortened” in acceleration. If we think of time as a sort of energy, and so if this time flow is stopped, it shouldn’t move at all, not matter the acceleration.