Bureaucrat Doesn’t Understand Why Landlords Don’t Want Section 8 Tenants And “Guaranteed Money”

[@ginaem2008]

Forget section 8, I would gladly lower my rental price and offer my place to a senior citizen with a good rental reference.

[@floydjohnson4915]

I worked in property management and maintenance for over 25 years for several national management companies in three different states. I can honestly say from my experience that accepting Sec 8 vouchers attracts nothing but problems. The vast majority of people who have those vouchers are not going to abide by lease rules and they don't take care of the rentals. I've seen Sec 8 renters destroy apartments and the amenities. One property that I worked on was a brand new apartment complex just out of construction, everything was brand new. Right out of the gate we had complaints of roaches and when we investigated we saw how filthy these people are. They had brought the roaches with them in the boxes they used to move and their furniture. Garbage was everywhere and the kitchen was full of dirty dishes and old food. This scenario repeated on every property I ever worked on and no matter how hard we worked, the situations never improved, they usually got worse. I saw generations of the same families, each with their own Sec 8 apartments. The reason is, government programs are a trap to keep the lowest, poorest people trapped at the lowest level. They are dependent upon the government to provide more and more programs and the politicians that advocate for these programs rely on Sec 8 participants to keep voting for them so the programs will continue. Individual property owners have a different scenario than management companies. The big property owners and management companies receive huge tax incentives to rent to Sec 8 participants. They can afford to deal with all the regulations and rules set forth by the Sec 8 offices. Individual owners who choose to accept vouchers are soon caught up in a war because the lifelong Sec 8 renters know how to use the Sec 8 rules against the landlord. I retired several years ago and I don't miss the headaches that came with my job. When I see cities and states creating laws forcing all rental property owners to accept Sec 8 renters, I know that those property owners are in for the worst experience. I realize that not every single Sec 8 renter is as bad as what I've written, but the vast majority are nasty people.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

Great response. I think it’s no coincidence that so many landlords have had a similar experience.

[@lue4724]

Boy- you sure wrote a book! I’ve lived in different states too. I have also seen in rural ‘Murica - some atrocious stuff! It all boils down to you all putting a race tone added to Sec.8. When it was all started for your people -but you just will not say! Blacks weren’t allowed to get in-until decades later & then was relegated to renting old/broken down homes. Why don’t you look at the fact-as Americans-Blacks were not allowed to be a part of society & have equal rights! That’s what you need to be talking about! Even the Blacks -self hating ones! Nothing comes to a sleeper -but a dream! You better “wake-up” ( not woke) WE are all on the same boat & as MLK said -“we will all perish together -as fools”!!!

[@deborahervin88]

My first apartment was in Section 8, Unfortunately, I agree with you. I remember many of the young women had small children, were unmarried, and did not work or go to school... These tenants had no intention of improving themselves and wanted to move out, ever. I felt bad for the young children because the mothers will have them out after 11:00 pm and many of these children did not eat healthy meals. I still remembered the children I will bring in to feed dinners and the mothers did not miss them... These Section 8 tenants are content with the low/free rent and living off government benefits. A time limit is needed and possibly enforcement of an incentive program to move off this program...

[@lue4724]

But there is a whole segment of society that is like this! It seems like you are insinuating that All are like that! It is so easy to put everyone in the same "box"! There are single white women too- w/kids! It is also pathetic- because there was a time- Black women could only get jobs as domestic workers - which entailed cleaning white people houses! But now are not good enough to live in your old /dilapidated houses! You can try to justify - all you want - but it boils down to pure/ old ----racism!... Remember - the Fair Housing Act was just passed in the 60s of 70s- so you Whites had a 200-300 yrs. headstart on decent housing & ownership! Plus - your ancestors benefited from the Homestead Act( free land) So let 's get real - there are trifling people in every race- so what? They are still human beings- just go down there in dem' hills of VA/Ala/KY. & I don't think they have Sec. . 8 & probably can't get it. Choose your battles - "everything that shines - is not gold!"

[@Disrupting_Reality_NYC]

My parents rented out two of their properties in Queens New York to section 8 families, it was a nightmare. Firstly, a lot of these people don’t appreciate having clean living quarters . They allow their children to destroy property. They acquire pets ( usually pit bulls) that they don’t properly take care of. These single mothers usually move some no good dude into their apartments the moment the ink is dried on their lease. The next thing you know, the cops are showing up at your property every other day for domestic violence call. Their teenage sons are usually a nightmare. The weed smoking, being disrespectful to their fellow neighbors and bring “beef” to your property which may cause your property to get shot up is dangerous. It’s not worth it.

[@Misstonyah]

My landlord started taking section 8. My neighbors were loud,ignorant, and disrespectful. I moved. Police were there every week. I caught one of them stealing my packages. Dont rent to section 8

[@lue4724]

That's stereotyping! You cannot put all people in the same box. It's the negativity that goes w/ Sec. 8. There are other subsidized programs- that you probably never heard of! But yet all the negativity is put on Sec. 8. I wonder why? You already know. It seems like we are headed for another Depression! But I have always heard - "that a piece of something- beats NOTHING anyday! You never know what tomorrow will bring or what a person is going thru. We are all on this "boat" together- so we should at least try to lend back- a helping hand! Every house is not a home- you make it into a home ( & fill it w /love) & just not "things" you cherish...

[@CarmenHernandez-vl2mh]

I have problems too. At present I have 7 people in Court. 1 sect 8,city fed and cash. All kind

[@rossheinzman7838]

As a realtor, I find that many landlords fear not being able to evict a bad or troublesome tenant.

[@tidycats151]

Rented to Sec 8 ONE Time. Tenant was running unlicensed daycare out of my home, using attic as bedroom & playroom. Stopped that. Moved BF & 5 kids into unit rented to Mom & 2 kids. Stopped that. Never mowed lawn (I supplied mower & gas) ended up having to hire lawn service. Broke into garage on property used as storeage & stole/sold everything. Advised with 3 months notice would not be renewing lease. She was shocked. Had to replace all carpeting ( unauthorised dog) 8 windows & storms, front & back doors, dishwasher,and pay a years water bills. 18K repairs for a tenant paying $300 below market rate. Learned that lesson the hard way. 😢 Never again!

[@kingalainc1]

An unfortunate by very common story with this housing program.

[@lue4724]

One incident per person & you stereotype EVERYONE! NOW what is that called?

[@kingalainc1]

@@lue4724 such a naive response. You clearly overlooked that part that stated "18k in repairs" that were needed, that is extremely high. At least with a regular tenant you have a chance to try and recover the repair costs by taking them to court, there is no such thing as recovering the costs back in court from a section 8 tenant. What most Landlords are coming to grips with is the realization that the negatives outweigh the benefits when dealing with section 8. Why waste time and effort screening 50+ section 8 tenants with the hopes of finding at least 1 good one.

[@lue4724]

@@kingalainc1 Yes - I saw that! But how old was the property? 50-200 yrs. old? If it was newer -it was even worse-because some builders ( not all) used cheap material & flawed work!

[@lue4724]

@@kingalainc1 What do you mean by “regular tenant”? Any human being should be a “ regular tenant”. If it was a big time drug dealer-as long as he was of a certain persuasion--he would be alright-huh?.....Just saying!!!!!

[@robertmatthews2009]

My wife and I once rented an apartment not knowing that the apartment below us was rented through Section Eight. One morning we were awakened by the police breaking into that apartment and arresting the occupants on drug charges. When they were gone, the apartment manager invited me to look inside. There was garbage everywhere including food, dirty diapers, empty beer cans, etc. The carpet was disgusting and the walls had human feces smeared on them.

[@floydjohnson4915]

I saw that same scenario play out over and over again in my 25+ years working in property management. The criminals will get a young woman with children to get a Sec 8 rental and then the criminals (who can't get a rental) will move in with her and run their operation out of that apartment. Then when the police come for a raid, the young woman and children end up getting evicted and usually lose everything.

[@Jillousa]

I can't confirm if the tenant was section 8 but I lived in one of the cheapest apartments in a city for a season when I went through financial difficulty due to a layoff. The person next door was in a wheelchair but ran a crack business out of her apartment. My apartment got broken into with my only two possessions of value stolen. The people that were in their crack business next door broken in my apartment and that was the next day after I gave them food!! It was creepy hearing people knocking on doors all throughout the night. I'm thankful God protecting me during that season and I'm also thankful for some of the neighbors. One of my neighbors watched that place like a hawk and I appreciated that they looked out for everybody.

[@YoPhocFays]

The stigmas and myths are there for a reason. They are based on facts and real-life experiences that landlords have to deal with, with section 8 tenants.

[@NO-yg1qm]

I sold my multi family property after 20 years due to being tired of dealing Section 8 tenants. In my city, Section 8 subcontracted the apartment inspections to a private company that would inspect the apartments and find endless things for me to repair. I hope some day the entire Section 8 program is defunded.

[@nunya2954]

It needs to be defunded, it is a socialist program and we are a Constitutional Republic, not a welfare Country.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

This is a huge issue. The cities now want to force landlords to accept vouchers.

[@davidwilliams5407]

@@RealEstateAndLandlordNews Yep, mine just passed an ordinance doing that.

[@toycarpgmr]

I had section 8 tenants. They destroyed the place. Rent was too low. Will never accept section 8 again.

[@freddiesmith4285]

8 sections were designed to help people temporarily but it is like enabling people to be lazy and heavily depending on government.

[@claudiaparnell7354]

I've worked my ass off over the years teaching k-12 grade Exceptional Children..Special ED..for NOTHING PAY in the south. That's why I left and went overseas as an expat. Growing older gracefully is not the greatest. My damn tax dollars has paid into the system. Think about this way FRUITLOOP!!!! YOUR TAX DOLLARS IS... PAYING 200 DOLLARS A DAY FOR A MURDER'S STAY IN PRISON. Some of you need to go to local animal shelter, which are filled to the capacity everywhere.. adopt, see, & feel what God desires us to be. I only made this statement fruitloops..not everyone is cut from the same cloth. I'm not trying to change anyone's thoughts..that's between you and God. Growing up with a military father, I learned diversity at an early age ..I do not go around judging everyone by the same standards. I completely forgot about my little post on here a few months ago..just now going through responses and thinking this....if another country decided to invade us and we..as americans actually had to unite together to defend our country..like Ukraine..WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE IN TROUBLE. I CAN VISUALIZE IT NOW.. We'd fight together to defend but in the process club each other in different neighborhoods...THANK GOD FOR TECHNOLOGY THESE DAYS TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE🙄. NOT THAT I CARE BUT...just remember dorks what the BIBLE states. What you measure you will be dealt. Thank you for your time, responses, and perspectives..it's been very enlightening. I understand all perspectives, answers, & individualities

[@kareypope2325]

I worked a full time job I just didn't make enough at the time this was 20 years ago

[@anniealexander9616]

​​@@claudiaparnell7354Get off your high horse. People are sick of seeing our hard earned money go to the chronically lazy and horny!!!! Some people live to fight and f$*"! Work was slow last night. I stayed 12.25 hours to make sure my family is taken care of and all my children are grown!! I'm completely debt free including no mortgage. I'll be 52 next month. My coworker who is 39 years old with a won't work wife and 2 kids, plus another kid from an affair, left work 10 hours early. But that ok because she can just go to welfare and claim she is single. That way she can sit home and cook him nice meals. But he doesn't like paying rent either so she is on that section 8 waiting list !!! Fight together when invaded? Girl....if people don't contribute during good times, they dayum sure aren't going to contribute during bad times.

[@blschafer4310]

I live in an apartment complex with individual buildings of 4-6 units. They are owned by different landlords. The strip we call 'Ghetto Row' is section 8. Trashy doesnt even cover it. Garbage all over, busted windows, spray paint on doors, its disgusting. There is NOTHING wrong with being poor. BUT---you dont have to be a damn pig.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

That’s unfortunate but this is the case everywhere.

[@lue4724]

Have you seen some of those “houses” in W. VA./Ala./KY.? Ghetto was a term used for the Jewish people-then after Blacks moved into those old dilapidated places-the term was passed on to them! Nothing from nothing -leaves nothing! I guess that is called “recycling”--huh?

[@deborahervin88]

It seems like a long time - 30 years ago, I moved into my first apartment - Section 8 housing, I was a college student and was sharing the apartment with 3 other girlfriends, I was not on the lease... When they moved out, the property manager, a 50+ year old lady, allowed me to stay in the apartment and put everything in my name, but she stipulated that I needed to be saving my money, she doesn't want me to stay in there for more than 5 years and I could not move any men in the apartment (as if I would)... So, I stayed only 3 years, and finished school, got married... I thank God everyday for that sweet old lady - Property Manager, she died 3 years ago at 87 yrs old for laying down those strict rules to us!

[@johnkovac9613]

I have a section 8 tenant.. I received a call she could hear water dripping and the County needed to replace the water meter. The County wanted me to install a new water valve above the water meter. I mention to the tenant I would get a plumber out there the next day. She said she would be available between 7 and 2. The plumber called the tenant and said they would be out there at 8 the next morning and she confirmed with them that would work. The plumber also sent a text with the same info. At 8 the plumber shows up and knocks on the door, no answer. They call her no answer. I sent her a text, no answer. The plumber left. Much later the tenant calls and said she had her phone off and did not hear the door. Same story several times when the HVAC guys came out. Of course I am getting paid less than market value. ($150 a month) That is why I will NOT rent to her again. Let’s not even mention all the other issues like never paying on time: Way too much drama time and time again. Let the County find another sucker. Trust me, what they offer money wise it will be in a run down section of tow.

[@jimmyday9536]

Section 8 simply creates a huge underclass of people who are dependant on the government for their basic housing needs. I had several Section 8 tenants years ago and it was always unmarried women with children who had their sister and deadbeat boyfriend move in with them.

[@misstanya7487]

Perhaps the government should have land to put up apartment buildings for these dependant poor people that have become too lazy or their brains just don't have capacity to work at all instead of trying to convince landlords to take them in. It's the government's fault anyway because they created the situation for people to become lazy. This system is setup to keep people poor and dependent and because of this we have a lot of mentally disturbed and drug addicts living on the streets. They need to bring back asylums/ mental hospitals so they can get treatment so they can be off the streets.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

I agree. The failings of the program plague all socialist programs. Rather than helping people get back on their feet, they actually encourage people to be lazy.

[@bsmiddy236]

Correction......dependent on the TAX PAYER

[@angrycannibal6625]

Section 8 is slow and unresponsive and ALWAYS asks you to REDUCE rent. The also force you to make UNNECESSARY and EXPENSIVE ARBITRARY so called repairs.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

Agreed!

[@davidwilliams5407]

I've never rented to a Section 8 tenant, but I may have to start doing so due to a new city ordinance preventing landlords from discriminating against Section 8 tenants. What happens if the Section 8 administrators want me to reduce my rent but I'm not willing to do so?

[@Blah-blah-sure]

Most landlords big & small are starting to see what I’ve been saying for years. And that sec8 guaranteed money isn’t worth the losses landlords incur in the tens of thousands of dollars

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

A good point. Another issue is that you are 100% dependent in n the government. They could decide at any time that you aren’t getting paid anymore and that you can’t evict.

[@Blah-blah-sure]

@@RealEstateAndLandlordNews Absolutely correct.

[@nawill9209]

I was going to take my first section 8 tenant. The housing department offered me one price. I accepted. House passed the inspection. I get a modified offer almost 200 less. Reason was the tenant had an income change. I declined. I was already on the fence about this tenant. She expected me to change 6 month old carpet one the first floor. And while I wasn’t there asked my handy man to paint the front door. This was the day before the inspection.

[@gunsandpolitics5510]

We made the REALLY BAD mistake of renting to section 8 people ONCE! We NEVER did it again. Never will.

[@russellwright9813]

Been there, done that. Never again.

[@lue4724]

YOU PEOPLE-your RACISM is obvious! ....It so happened Sec.8 is something concrete now you can jump on! ....BLM is next! Crime/CRT! GET REAL!.. It has ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT RACE!....NO MATTER HOW YOU TRY TO DENY IT! For those of YOU BLACKS -that think YOU have made it -Think Again! trump didn’t get over 75million votes--- from any babies or kids......JUST SAYING!!!!

[@antoinetteroyal6204]

I have section 8 and I also have a job , they pay certain percentage and I pay the rest , I got my voucher threw domestic violence so it was very convenient and still is , not all tenants are bad , well at least no ME !!

[@deannasalem145]

I agree with you. Everyone deserves a fair shake.

[@timothythompson4036]

I am not a landlord but I have heard that Section 8 tenants bring in problems. Such has boyfreinds right out of prison etc...

[@tinawindham6958]

It’s for low income women with children but the boyfriends always free loads

[@hatchett999ify]

Yeah. Keep that father out of their lives. Then turn around and say shit about the kids not having daddies. 😂😂😂😂 yall crack me up with this shit

[@robgrey6183]

@@hatchett999ify Daddy needs to lay off the drugs, get a job, and support the kids. yeah, I know, crazy talk.

[@ocean12]

When people get free housing, the do not care to take care of the place. Most apts are left trashed. And often times you cant raise rents enough to cover repairs and expenses. And many times you can not evict. So you are stuck w a bad tenant that destroys your property. Plus section 8 has too many rules on how the property must be. My husband had a two family house. He was looking for a tenant for the one apt. Section 8 said no because the bathroom was off the kitchen. Its an old house. He didnt want a section 8 tenant anyway, so it worked out. If you are really trying to help house people, dont reject housing for such a rediculous reason. If the govt is involved, steer clear.

[@skullsclub]

Well first and foremost there is a certain rules and regulation when it comes to building a house whether it's historically or protected or not. And they have scientific proof showing that if you walked into this place and I guarantee you could do it too with an ultraviolet light and look at all the particulate matter that is around the kitchen because the bathroom is right next to it it would make you vomit Dayglo. I have seen it. Now unfortunately most those older houses won't meet up to code not earthquake code not tornado code not hurt hurricane code not flood codes none of that. Now you have all these insurance companies doing what they do because they're going to lose money instead of be making money they won't make as much money as they're used to but you know and now they're pulling out running with their tails between their legs just like most of you landowners. And this guy that's in here God what a piece of inadequate added unintelligent greedy ass this guy is

[@MagesseT1]

"Water walls" - in a converted house, that would be a main consideration in making it into an "apartment space" - most likely why kitchen was next to a bathroom in a converted house-to-2-units. Growing up, our 1 bathroom was just off the kitchen, but it was a house, and held a family of 6.

[@russellseilhamer4552]

Section 8 laws need to be reformed to protect the landlord. Maybe there should be bi-weekly or monthly housing inspections. Random and MANDATORY drug testing of all section 8 renters. Tenants can be written up and evicted for violations of the rules, failing drug tests and failing housing inspections. You gotta make sure they keep the houses clean and aren’t trashing the place

[@ashelfey7677]

😂 The drugs you are worried about don't stay in your system long enough for that to work. So one that you would be testing for would be pot or opiates ?

[@lue4724]

Do people act the same way about people on SSI! Nothing is FREE! I hear them always talking about "freeloaders"! Someone "paid" ( relatives ) in blood ) sweat or tears! My dad ( a widower) worked for over 50 yrs. - & never drew a cent in unemployment/ RR pension/ or SS. Worked up until a month before he died! No one was able to draw anything - he had paid into the system. So tell me he was "freeloading!"

[@claudiaparnell7354]

I agree on this accord.. definitely!!! I think section 8 residents should have 4 to 5 times inspections a year. There should be accountability. I understand where some people are coming from concerning their comments but not everyone is cut from the same cloth. Unfortunately as we become older .not everyone slides into home plate..the graveyard unscathed

[@ronaldmcdonald3965]

I accepted a Section 8. I got caught between a disagreement between the tenant and Housing Authority Housing Authority would not return my calls. I called my local Supervisor to get a call back. I will never get involved with a Section 8 again. Another way I would look at it: Why would you sign a contract with a governmental agency that could unfairly enforce regulations against you?

[@troywilliams4753]

Those bureaucrats don't live in section 8 areas

[@christaylor5304]

When I first started working I had only a high school education and made minimum wage. I lived at my parental home and didnt get anyone pregnant. I took new job opportunities and advanced from the bottom up each time. All it required was showing up to work, a good attitude and doing a good job by learning from my mistakes. Got married, had 2 kids, put them through college with no debt. I dont understand most of the excuses i hear from people who just cant seem to handle their own lives.

[@lue4724]

You know that sounds like the “American Dream” & is beautiful!....Now if EVERYONE was afforded the opportunities you had -everything would be wonderful. You are really naive or just blind to the real facts! But then again-when you live in your own “bubble” & only socialize w/your own kind-I fully understand you coming to that conclusion! ( that little pun-about not getting anyone pregnant -also could tell that you wasn’t getting any-just saying!) But that’s not real life -for everyone--dear!!!!

[@jeromeburdine966]

Just wait until ALL rentals are owned by big corporations. Like to see how they handle section 8 damages!!!!

[@tscoff]

The reason that some landlords don’t want Section 8 tenants is because some Section 8 tenants are terrible! Are all of them bad? No. Do all of them violate the lease? Nope. Do enough of them cause headaches that it’s not worth dealing with the bad tenants to get the good tenants? For some landlords the answer is yes.

[@lue4724]

The operative word is “some”.

[@00ooo000]

I lived above a section 8 tenant, soon as they moved in the unit there were plumbing issue's, they ran over my head, loud noises, I was miserable. I called the police multiple times and complained to HOA. I was going to sell my condo my fist home I only lived in it for a year. These people are demons!

[@JTMondal]

I'm never renting out to section 8 ever again. I'm going to be eviction my last section 8 tenant this year and that will be it.

[@fozman845]

Section 8 does not hold tenants liable that causes damage to properties. I would take section 8 only if government pays me when my property is damaged. Also if problems come up for non payments, harassment, drugs. You have to jump thru more hoops to get them out.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

Those tenants need to be held responsible and the government needs to compensate landlords if one of the section 8 tenants destroys our properties.

[@lue4724]

I think you just want to justify not renting to Sec. 8 tenants!

[@Ninnjette-]

@@lue4724 I think you would be a great contender, in the victim Olympics.. Gold ⭐️

[@lue4724]

@@Ninnjette- Nope- just has seen enough ignorance/greed/racism --- working w/ people in need. The playing field is not always equal!. It's even worse now- because greed has taken over. But I had always heard- "you reap - what you sow!". You can come up w/ all your justifications - but it is still about humanity & being our "brothers/sisters" - keeper! The hate needs to be put on the " back burner"! I am sure you don't want to hear this- I just responded to your "message"!

[@Ninnjette-]

@@lue4724 I’m giving you the reality, you’re making up justifications. Welcome to the real world, it’s not fair. That’s why you have to better yourself, to get ahead. If everything is just so racist, why are many black Americans doing better than I am? I’m Jewish and white, shouldn’t that put me at the top in your mind? It’s the greedy vs us. Not one group or another, I work hard to pay my rent, just like the black lady in my building does. I get nothing handed to me, and neither does she. Stop trying to divide everyone, maybe take your own advice.

[@JhonnyBoi]

When I became an investor and started checking out potential flips that were section 8, I was shocked to see how nice of a house these people were living in. I grew up poor but not poor enough to qualify for section 8. And the fact that these people (who most of time don’t even work) were living in much larger and better homes than where I grew up and where my parents worked their asses off to afford, it opened my eyes to how messed up this system is. I know not everyone gets nice houses, but here in northern Virginia (DC suburbs) it sure seems like that. And seeing the conditions most of these were left in, I’ve decided to never rent to section 8.

[@Jillousa]

My parents hardly took any government assistance and we lived below the standards of some people on section 8.

[@JhonnyBoi]

@@Jillousa there’s a section 8 house in my neighborhood. One of the most expensive houses in our neighborhood, valued on Zillow at $510,000. Imagine every other family having to work like a dog to live next door to a family that lives there for free. It’s crazy.

[@jennifer3551]

I've been a landlady for years and I've come to the conclusion that I only want to rent to those who have their 💩 together. And I won't rent to people who have horrible looking teeth. Not kidding! If someone can't take care of their teeth, they won't take care of your property.

[@southbound1969]

Great idea! I usually peek inside their car.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

Lol!!!

[@georgewagner7787]

That's funny because I keep my properties nice but my car looks like a big mess. I'm a teacher in the backseat is just full of books and junk

[@deborahervin88]

I have to admit, my landlady required my girlfriends, and me to show our school schedules each semester... It is true, we all did have beautiful teeth 😬! I do not know what this Property Manager was doing if this was legal now, because I moved in with my girlfriends and never filled out a form to be placed on Section 8 or a waiting list... I guess, I got lucky!

[@zico739]

Good on landlords for having standards.

[@harryhunter7872]

I use the program with lots of success. However, there are several drawbacks to the program. It is a generational way of life as the kids learn from “mommy” how easy it is to live off the government

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

I’m glad it’s working out for you and I have no problem if that is the strategy a landlord uses. My personal experience with the program has highlighted the flaws and after my section 8 tenants move on, I likely will no longer participate in the program. I also am 100% opposed to the program being made mandatory rather than voluntary by many cities and states.

[@MAURICZZIO1]

TEN YEARS AGO COST ME $15,000 TO EVICT A SECTION 8 TENANT. RENT WAS $1900 AND TENANT WAS ONLY PAYING $100 PER MONTH. SHE DESTROYED EVERYTHING. I WENT TO SECTION 8 OFFICE FOR HELP AND THEY TOLD ME:" SORRY, THAT'S YOUR TENANT, YOU ACCEPTED HER AS YOUR TENANT". THIS WAS A $15,000 LESSON. BELIEVE ME, I LEARNED IT.

[@JTMondal]

Never renting out to a section 8 again. I have 16k in unpaid rent and over 6k in damages. Finally renting it out next month.

[@BusArch42]

One of my coworkers had his house damaged by a section 8 family. 30k in damages. Never again

[@marcielynn4886]

Make him immediately live in a section 8 after a bad tenant is evicted.

[@ellenpeterson9999]

section 8? seven months ago I was open-minded. no more. after $13K damages $4200 unpaid rent $4000 legal fees and court inertia, inefficiency, and inaction and voucher program high-handed actions, it’s clear: NY state demands that private property owners and taxpayers support public charges. fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on you. no way never again.

[@paulbrungardt9823]

My boss used to rent to section 8 tenants. He stopped after the first batch of section 8 tenants, all had common traits...They were very pleased to be life-long wards of the state. They take NO responsibility for their life choices. They feel entitled to the benefits of others' hard work property.

[@chrispate66881]

Now on the other hand the elderly are not section 8ers... is because ,they are retirees that deserve that type of housing.

[@mikeshoemaker1909]

It's none of govs business why we don't want sect 8. It's our right. Who wants those who can't get a job or learn a valuable trade. Who wants losers who intend to lose the rest of their miserable lives? I want to spend my life dealing with failures....no

[@ajones8008]

It's a class issue, landlords want self sustaining respectable people in their properties.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

Agreed.

[@aguy3203]

In some states, Section 8 is a protected class lol

[@JackieOwl94]

Why would I want to rent to a bunch of people who don’t want to work and like to destroy property. Also, even military housing requires a security deposit and 1st month’s rent on the military base. I’d rather rent to a soldier and their family. Same guarantee of income, less worry.

[@lizabear7014]

I was on section 8, and was looking for apartments, the HUD housing inspector, wanted this one place to have a lock on the bathroom, I was looking at a one bedroom, a single person, I said I don't require a lock on the bathroom, the inspector got all upset and said what if you have a visitor who wants to use the bathroom? Well I answered, I will be aware already that they went in there. I mean it's a one bedroom it's not like they are going to wander off and I won't know where they are.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

I appreciate the comment from a tenant. The inspectors requiring unnecessary repairs and updates is a huge issue.

[@georgewagner7787]

This was humorous

[@kingalainc1]

I agree with the inspector on this point. All bathroom doors generally come with locks. Would you feel comfortable in the bathroom at "someone else's house" if you could not lock the door?

[@BusArch42]

There are so many things that can disqualify a unit that a non section 8 renter would not be concerned about.

[@nakitapalmer656]

EVERYBODY and their MOMMA knows majority of the ppl on S8 are going to play the system and they should have the right to not rent to them!! Who wants to keep fixing the same bullet and DV holes in the walls? IJS😌😌😑

[@mike7972]

1. Most damages the tenants cause they fail to notify you and the inspection is when you find out. And section 8 tells you have so many day to correct the problem the tenant has done or you won’t receive your rent. 2. All section 8 tenants that I’ve rented with have had some sort of problems. 3. Most pay very little or any of the rent and treat the property poorly to the amount of rent they pay. Basically they treat a $1,600 a month unit as if it was a $100.00 a month unit. Shared housing is the new name i was told as the original section 8 program was for military vets who were sectioned 8 out of military service.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

I’ve had similar issues.

[@jasonk602]

I thought the section eight payments were guaranteed but I found out they were not. Through some technicality that I don't understand still the section 8 Payments stopped because somehow the house wasn't qualified all of a sudden. On top of that the tenant didn't take the best care of the house because they had no skin in the game. Never again.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

I’ve heard of cases where the tenant got a pay raise and therefore no longer qualified for section 8. They lost their voucher but still had no ability to pay 100% of the rent on their own. The end result was the landlord had to evict them. Just another one of the failings of a socialist program. That’s why these tenants rarely find better jobs, get married, or improve their financial situation. They don’t want to lose the voucher.

[@lue4724]

@@RealEstateAndLandlordNews It is s shame that all you people seem to have your “head in the sand”. You never want to address the ongoing problem that has been going on for centuries! Just because you see some Black entertainers/athletes & others that have “made it”- you seem to think we have “caught up”! Well -think again-there are millions left on the wayside & are dealing w/the same issues from yrs. before. When you can only think of a race of people -as being sub-human/that’s a problem! No matter of all the contributions & creativity we give! First & foremost-we are Human Beings!

[@sidwhiting665]

The author of this article needs to go buy 5 rental houses and rent them out to Section 8 tenants. Then in 1-2 years come back and we'll see. I don't take anyone's opinion on investing or business seriously unless they are doing the thing they're writing about.

[@Vicarium]

I don't need to slam my nuts in a door to know it's something to be avoided. As a property manager, I would tell people all day to think very carefully and talk to add many investors as possible for their anecdotal experience before renting to section 8 tenants.

[@dayers1741]

One good section 8 and 2 bad. After the 2 bad, don’t think I want to do it again.

[@mamaslitterbug3071]

Im sorry but my experience with Section 8 was not a good one! All the money I received from Section 8 had to be put back into the home to repairs it for another renter and they don't honor the lease with dogs and having many people living in the home and there is no support from the Section 8 program!!!

[@Drus718]

😂😂😂😂😂😂, when my family rented our house; we had Section 8 tenants. WORSE IDEA EVER, they lived there for 2 years; had to remove the thermostat (cause they broke the housing for it and turned it up); the mother constantly had men over; the kids DESTROYED our flower bed; constantly over flowed the toilet; constantly put holes in the wall. Took us a whole year to get them out. Ugh

[@amputeemarksman]

Section 8 tenants have no skin in the game. No security deposit. A non-voucher tenant is going to be concerned with loss of all or some of the security deposit so they will take care of things and avoid losing the deposit. Section 8 does not care because they will not have to pay for damages.

[@SkylineFTW97]

My mom considered renting her townhouse to section 8. She decided against it when she remembered the kind of people usually on it. I have cousins in NYC who live near section 8 housing. Most of the stereotypes are true. That and she wants to pass the house to my brothers and I. She'd much rather the house not get trashed before then, so she decided not to chance it.

[@tedmosby7753]

Landlord here. The type of people on section 8 are generally not very well-kept, level headed, put together people. I would use harsher words but you get my point. The place ends up looking like a pigsty with tons of damage. Even if they were tidy, they tend to be slow and argumentative. Just avoid section 8 period and you'll save yourself a ton of headaches.

[@lue4724]

You have a one track mind! I can say the same thing about some of the people I have worked w/or met!.This shows just how close mind you are! I wonder do you all have the same attitude about the LGBTQ Community---or is their "complexion still their protection?"

[@jonathanjones3126]

Shocking a bureaucrat doesn't see the major problems with section 8. Bureaucrats only exist to expand the departments they work in. All fed and state agencies should be cut by 5% yearly for 5 years.

[@nunya2954]

You need to understand, the Gubment will spend your taxed dollars anyway they want, because the American tax payer does NOTHING to stop them.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

We have too many bureaucrats who don’t contribute anything.

[@Lithilic]

In very simple terms, a renter contract is usually 2 interested parties. Adding in the government you now have 3 interested parties in the agreement and that dramatically reduces the number of acceptable terms for all parties. This doesn't even scratch the issue of non-section 8 tenants are not likely to be happy having to live near or by section 8 tenants and could harm one's business in that manner as well.

[@johnbolongo9978]

I from the government and im here to help.......Run like HELL.

[@glennleedicus]

I especially don’t like putting up with the nightmare then to be lectured by some ideologue sitting in a cubicle about how and why I should do my job. I’m an on-site manager and have horror stories up my ass dealing with Section 8, and other Housing First Organizations, which is no longer what it used to be for. Now it’s a program infested with able people conning the system to get free rent. And personally, that alone, is not the type of neighbor I want living in a small community I’m responsible for. Not to mention, the threat of government action against me personally, for doing my job not in exact accordance with their demands.

[@allisonmcgowen1277]

So the people who are legitimately disabled and responsible, respectable and clean are what bad neighbors? Why? It's not like I wanted to become disabled! And some people have invisible disabilities! Now I'm all for fakers getting the boot! But it's not fair to think everyone is able bodied!

[@allisonmcgowen1277]

I'd love to hear a story from you

[@southbound1969]

Most responsible people, i.e., people that pay their rent, not the taxpayers, don't want to live among the takers.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

This is true. There also is the issue of fairness. A family of working adults full time earn enough income to afford a nice rental home. When it comes to section 8 the government is giving away at an extreme discount the exact same housing to someone who never could afford it otherwise.

[@turboredcart]

It is a ton of paper work and red tape. In my area, the rents really dont cover the property taxes. In general I would not want to be a landlord.

[@freckles2720]

Why is it when one is lower income tenant there are more problems? What causes the problems?

[@claudettedoyley9056]

Entitlement.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

Don’t get me wrong, there are good lower income tenants. In particular immigrants are often excellent tenants. However, there are more problems with lower income tenants because they are literally living on the edge financially. This can cause them problems that can be a huge headache for landlords. Keeping that in mind, the majority of my rentals are lower income, and I do have Section 8 tenants.

[@alphaomega1351]

The values they tend to have are trash 🗑 and they can physically damage your investment. 😶

[@ISpitHotFiyaa]

Yeah, the Section 8 tenants have no money to lose so you can't sue them if they trash the place. Maybe you can recover something from the government but no doubt that involves a mountain of paperwork.

[@MsJgre]

As a former Section 8 recipient, I believe that landlords need to seriously vet their potential tenants. By all accounts, I was an excellent renter. I keep the property clean, and I actually beautified my area. I rented in an area with excellent schools so my child could benefit. Most importantly, I worked hard to get off of Section 8, which resulted in purchasing a home. There are renters such as myself in need of temporary help so they can get back on their feet. Landlords need to ask the right questions.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

Guess what? We do vet our tenants very thoroughly. Here is the thing, if it came down to two tenants, both of them great and equal in all aspects, but one was on section 8 and the other paid 100% of the rent with their own income, I’m choosing the one who pays 100%. The reasons I explained in the video are why.

[@Misstonyah]

They are single mothers and they always move their boyfriends in.

[@MsJgre]

@@RealEstateAndLandlordNews That is your right. However, It's a shame because it's a form of redlining.

[@kingalainc1]

​@@MsJgre If Walmart shut down one of their stores in a rough area due to the overwhelming losses from theft, would they be discriminating against the residents in that area? Landlords are running a business just like any other

[@theonewhoknows9615]

Rent to section 8 at your own risk….. soon they’ll be subletting (renting rooms)

[@tmac9208]

The inspectors have to find a problem to justify their existence..

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

I think you are right.

[@fosholyfe6115]

It's basic shyt though... Does the toilet flush? Water run? Closet doors hung correctly so they don't fall off, any peeling paint? Simple shyt that should be done anyway

[@PatrickFoley-vf3lr]

Section 8 = unwanted xtra tenants, drugs, crime, trash, property damage, unpaid rent, ect

[@RC-ld3cn]

Section fails to pay the tenant damages to the apartment.

[@richardtorz2164]

The house i rent has a upper and lower rental unit, my landord has said he will not rent either unit to section 8 because of the possible problems it could have, from renters destroying the property to the lengthy process time it takes to get someone in. and he has said he wants people in that will pay the full amount of rent every month like we do, and i and wife both agree with him. We have been renting from him for 13 years and take care of the property from our own yard work to doing simple repairs like replacing switches or outlets and even replacing the simple wax rings under the toilets. There were only two times we had to call them, one for the heater water boiler needing replacing and the water heater leaking, only two times in the last 13 years. He has raised the rent on the lower unit, but kept ours at 700 a month ( all utilities included) because we do all the minor repairs for both units and because they know we care about hot the property looks. This prevents them from driving over and hour away to fix things and they have said to us they appreciate the effort involved in keeping the property nice. They had to evict this woman a coulple of weeks ago for non payment of 3 months rent. All she paid was the security deposit and first months rent then stopped payments all together, this woman gets a hefty amount of 1000 dollars each for her and her son and she just flatly refused to pay after that first month. I made a bet with my wife that the landord would put her out in four months, and they put her out in 3 1/2 months. So that is the reason my landlord will not rent either the lower unit or upper unit in which we live to section 8 tenants. Just not worth the hassle.

[@TL-wy1nk]

I don't disagree that housing for people in section 8 is good. The overseers of the program need to insure the tenants. They need to streamline the inspection of the landlords. They need to do a better job of getting criminal tenants out of the program, and never let them back in when they find out.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

I agree with you on all these points.

[@davidwilliams5407]

Yep! It's not the source of income (Section 8) that's the problem; it's all the stuff you mention!

[@georgewagner7787]

I'm trying to find a two family to retire in. This bureaucrats should have come on the last tour with us. The tenants let the dog eat the front door and then they locked it in a room where it ate that dorm peed all over the floor. The owner already ripped up the floor but the smells into the subfloor. If it hadn't been for that room I would have bought the house

[@vickiewilkins1579]

The government should pay for all repairs and late rent if you rent to section 8.

[@spankynater4242]

100% wrong. When you say the government should pay all late fees, you mean we the taxpayers should pay all late fees, hard pass.

[@nic8920]

I have both. All & all they 2:56 are excessively needy. There is a huge need for training & education before they are allowed to use my property. I have never failed an expection when the house was condemned as unsanitary all questionable 6:44. I am now being sued by a §8 wacko for attempting to put her out for a year or more & she has destroyed the floor over the bed above an elderly. I tried to help her keep her voucher by helping her leave, & I get medical discrimination suit! Like I said wacko. She was becoming a nuisance by getting caught on video stealing stuff on neighbors porches, on video. Some get they destroyed by dogs. But that can be both ways..

[@nic8920]

Needy, like hey, I don’t give you a battery at 4a:m

[@markmyjak7739]

How does a housing voucher lift families out of poverty? I don't understand. If you have a housing voucher, you still in poverty.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

Great point. In fact the voucher is designed to encourage people to stay in poverty for life so they don’t lose their benefits.

[@georgewagner7787]

Truth. I have a friend with mental illness and learning disabilities and she got her daughter SSI as well. Neither one of them can work full-time because they will lose their benefits. And this leads to a lack of knowledge of work ethic. She wants to come back home and visit her mom and she said her daughter can just quit the job if that's necessary for her to come. She has no thought about the boss or leaving the boss without someone or what that will do to her daughter's resume

[@elainegoad9777]

I'm 75 on social security and have a sec 8 senior apartment because my income isn't enough to pay these outrageous rents and have money left to live on. I am a good tenant. I worked, was a caretaker for first husband then widowed, divorced 2nd husband and am now alone. Because I am poor doesn't mean I'm a lazy druggie. Life circumstances put me in this position.

[@constancekang9914]

you are a unicorn, most ppl are not like you

[@ashrpblond]

i agree with you whole heartedly just because life has thrown us an unexected card (my son was born disabled and im his caretaker) doesn't mean we are trash

[@anneshirley95]

Do not take this personally. This does not apply to you. I've cleaned rentals and most of them were not only filthy, but destroyed. I do think a lot of low income renters don't care, but that doesn't mean we know that there are a few good ones.

[@BrooklynDodger]

No one is referring to people in your position. I would be open to renting to an elderly person on assistance more than a young person with no disabilities on assistance.

[@BusArch42]

Elderly should have a different set of rules.

[@patriciamurphy954]

Have many other landlords and seen the damage that is left behind behind haven’t taken S8 ever in 25 years in the landlord business.

[@AdamKover]

There is a reason why people are section 8. It is because they can't earn enough money by themselves to pay rent and live a decent life. This could be from being lazy to being argumentative to having made bad life choices like having children with men that don't stick around. Having a decent job that allows an individual to live a normal life without assistance is one of the best measures of the quality of a person's decency. When a person took the time to learn a trade, has the discipline to show up for work on time and works well at their job day after week after month for years, it is a testament of their quality. Who would you rather rent to?

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

Agreed!

[@michaelcap9550]

Summed it up perfectly.

[@l.austin2371]

Don't forget the elderly and disabled and some military are on section 8

[@AdamKover]

@@l.austin2371 Elderly should not be on Section 8, they should have planned for retirement, bad life choices that reflect of them. Military is not an excuse. I learned a lot of discipline that helped me out in life when I was in the military. If they have PTBS (Battle Fatigue) then they should be in an institution and not on Section 8. The disabled are usually on disability but even so most disabled people can work. Not all Section 8 people are problematic but if you look at the statistics, the reasons that make people Section 8 usually reflect poorly on their characteristics and moral fiber.

[@l.austin2371]

@AK Kover shit happens AK

[@Tony-yl1rb]

No section 8 for me

[@charlesphilhower1452]

There are many reasons to not accept section 8 including dealing with government bureaucracy, the possibility of not being able to charge market level rents, inspectors that lose sight of the fact that it is low income housing, and make issue about insignificant cosmetic issues, thus requiring unnecessary expensive repairs and damages caused by tenants that have little or no financial responsibility toward the property.😊

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

Exactly!

[@frankish5314]

And now in Oregon your tenant can INFORM the landlord they intend to start a daycare facility in the landlords house.. And there is not a damn thing the LL can do to stop it! Another nail in the coffin and I will be out of the business the moment my current (albeit excellent) renters move out.

[@constancekang9914]

this is rediculous

[@safeandeffectivelol]

Can they inform you they will be cooking meth or crack in your house too?

[@frankish5314]

@@safeandeffectivelol Probably.. This is Oregon after all!

[@frankish5314]

@@constancekang9914 Totally insane.. LL has no right to evict them for starting a daycare.. I.e start a business in violation of the lease agreement! I wonder who gets sued if a kid gets hurt.. Oh I guess that would be the impoverished tenant.. Riiiight!

[@MBoldman50]

Who wants low income (poor) people taking care of their children?

[@chickenwing111]

I'm surprised that the FJB administration has not required landlords accept Sec. 8.

[@logicpolice308]

Trump thought about it, but stared at pics of Ivanka's body instead...

[@chickenwing111]

@@logicpolice308 - Joe Blow Briben molested his daughter, apparently. NOT A JOKE. If either did such a thing they should rot in hell.

[@davidallen4026]

Most Section 8 tenants will also qualify for free lawyers. The problem with section 8 is everything is good, especially the money, until something goes wrong. If you don't have your inspection and repair game on point and you haven't bothered reading the contract - ain't no point in becoming a section 8 landlord. You WILL get beat up by the system. Section 8 is for landlords who know how the game works AND has a crew or handyman ready to handle issues before they become problems.

[@stevengoldstein114]

Another great video, I know this is happening in EVERY city

[@kareypope2325]

I was an excellent tenant i had section 8 but lived at my address prior to me getting section 8 my land lord took it

[@dennispatterson4998]

it's pretty simple- why would a provider scape the bottom of the barrel if they don't need too.?

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

Exactly!!

[@TL-wy1nk]

Don't accept section 8 until they pay market rate.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

Agreed.

[@andycurran3327]

Don't accept sect 8 until it pays more than market rate because of the added business costs, business risk, & grief at the whim of some bureaucrat who likely is not on the program, is not a landlord, would never need the program or ever be a landlord. These bureaucrats justify & appoint them selves to be advocates of backwards thinking. Thinking that is not good for tenants, manager's or owners. The thinking is about what's good for government & it's own interests, comfort & growth. A parasite with no skin in the game, no risk as to what happens to the market, no down side but only another way to get it hooks into we the taxpayer(s). Involve your self with these vultures at your own peril.

[@eljefe4473]

Who would give more control to the government. Take bread from those criminals and don’t be surprised when you lose all your private property rights. Yeah no

[@deborahervin88]

I still think, there needs to be a time limit placed on Section 8 housing...No one should be able to stay more than 5 years on this program or any benefit programs...

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

That is a great idea. We need a fundamental change to the program to keep people from abusing it.

[@krillin876]

@@RealEstateAndLandlordNews I had a friend that actually had to pay a woman thousands of dollars to leave who still owed him thousands of dollars

[@lue4724]

If everyone was treated as equals & was paid a living wage- yes there should be stipulations. But if you struggled when your kids were small & still after they are grown- & don't say go to college( & get student loans) but it's like sometimes a no win situation! If this was a perfect country - maybe so. It really boils down to who you know -& people have a tendency to pick their own kind! That's the truth!

[@krillin876]

@@lue4724 it's different people have different skills how can they be treated the same with the same wage

[@lue4724]

@@krillin876 What do you mean by different skills? Think about it- you can have the best skills in the world & know you are qualified for a job- but still do not get hired. I realized by accident - it's who you know. My first job as a teen in the retail field - I was actually hired because I knew the store mgr.'s son. ( I use to tease him in school - he was rich & carried a briefcase in the 7th grade) Yes- it was a small city! But as my Grandma use to say- " you will meet the same people going up & will also meet them coming down!" I worked in a homeless women shelter & a battered women shelter too. So you can try to justify all you want- but people are people! Sure - some are tripping- but you don't know their "story" & everyone has a "story". Don't even get me started on the antiquated/ dilapidated houses- that by the time the Housing Act of 1965 passed- some of the places ( apts./ houses) were already 150- 200 yrs. old) But WE tore them up! Nothing from nothing- leaves nothing!

[@NomadlifewithRae-ou5sc]

Have lived in several apartment complexes across the US for work. Travel for a living so move every few years. I Have lived in apartments that have allowed section 8...yes many of them are honest clean living people that just fell on hard times, and you can almost always tell the difference. However, 75% of them are the exact opposite and make things hard not only for landlords but hardworking tenants that want peace and quiet after working all day. Today after all that people have been through in the last few years...Working people aren't tolerating that type of behavior. You can kiss all of your good tenants goodbye and say hello to a system that will give you problems and more expenses in the long run. You pick.

[@RipMinner]

Ya stop wasting money on section 8 rent and just build section 8 housing. Landlords don't want the money and head aches let them have the competition of free housing on the market.

[@shawj7876]

Sec 8 don’t pay market value and you have to follow their guidelines and use their forms. Process to rent Sec 8 takes longer and it’s time consuming. Those who earn a living to pay rent will appreciate the value of a dollar and the home they live in.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

Very good points.

[@derricksmith7847]

I stopped renting to section 8 is not because of tenants it is the inspectors.

[@thomasnguyen6144]

I see your point. However, when a tenant has a disability, they face barriers in finding employment. I agree with social housing to a certain point. If a tenant is able bodied, they should be able to find steady employment. They should not be on social housing long term. I think it’s important to have affordable housing for those who are low income or disabled. Any tenant can damage property.

[@floydjohnson4915]

The problem is, when a property owner chooses to accept Sec 8, they don't get to discern between a legitimate disabled or elderly applicant who truly needs help over the applicant who is going to destroy the property. One reason that I'm glad I retired from property management is how difficult "fair housing laws" have become against the property owners.

[@BusArch42]

True anyone can damage. The difference is if you have a chance at recovering the costs. Those who have income and assets low a means to recover damages. Those who do not have nothing to lose. My MiL rented a low income subsidized apartment. She left without cleaning it and skipped paying the last months rent. Her only income is social security and the place has no means to recover damages. She left the state. She didn’t trash the place at least but she was mad when they sent her a bill. Didn’t seem to grasp the 30 day notice thing. She just picked up her stuff and left one day. The6 had to treat it as abandoned before they could even enter.

[@thomasnguyen6144]

@@BusArch42 that’s not good.

[@Jillousa]

Steady employment doesn't cover rent in my area. Rent is so high that 18 or $19 an hour full-time doesn't make ends meet.

[@thomasnguyen6144]

@@Jillousa that’s true. That’s why I want to have multiple sources of income. I want to save for retirement. I don’t want to rely on the government when I am a senior.

[@deitrapugh1093]

If Section -8 would come and look at the damage that Section -8 tenants leave behind during the time of eviction and if they will pay for the damage that the Tenant's caused, then yes I will definitely consider renting to Section-8 tenants.

[@Summerdee223]

And guarantee full payment of rent at a premium of at least 5-10% for the risk that the landlord is taking by renting to someone who can't pay their rent themself.

[@billyhorton5779]

To many section 8 people are not civilized enough to live in a dog house without destroying it! They deserve to be homeless!

[@markdsm-5157]

Most likely it was some pompous bureaucrat that did the study. Immediately dismissed all the complaints he deemed frivolous then declared whatever left over is the real reason why section 8 doesn't work.

[@RealEstateAndLandlordNews]

That is the conclusion I came to as well.

[@110311DONTWANTCHANNE]

the reality is that there is a significant issue of a lack of personal responsibility especially with 'families'. they don't try to prevent pregnancy, they have volatile relationships with the baby daddies, they don't even try to take responsibility by partnering with another single parent....they don't have any career skills.....they are only long term because the can't move elsewhere. they don't seem to ever lose the voucher unless they get a serious criminal conviction. families that have shown personal responsibility (limiting pregnancies, being married, having some job skill other than flipping burgers) would likely make better tenants even if on section 8..ie a family making 50K/year v a family income of 15K...as well as seniors and disabled....but seniors and disabled often only have a voucher for 1 bedroom....many people eligible for SSDI/SSI are too disabled to have kids and make the choice not to---in order to be personally responsible....

[@ashrpblond]

i dont know i only ever had one kid and he is now 24

[@JTMondal]

I just have 1 sec 8 tenant left. We are going to get rid of him very soon. 😊.

[@roberthall6161]

A senior citizen in their 70's have usually lived like a decent human being. Some know how to keep a place looking very nice.

[@jeanuytico6233]

I don’t like it because most people don’t live very clean then there’s a lot maintenance to get it ready for the next tenant

[@sallyclay1974]

They have been having problems with section 8 tenants who dont pay the bills on time, and have been dependent on the government, since they were young. Thd ks dlord, shouldnt have to chase them for rent. The si gke mothers let thrir kids wreck properties, also

[@Jillousa]

Now I wonder, I wonder if the landlord took me as an unemployed tenant over someone with section 8 because she knew I was a hard-working person that just happened to get laid off. She had one of the cheapest apartments in the city. Like I said I never caused any problems while living there but the place was filled with problems with some of the neighbors.