Burning Rubber In A ’70 4-4-2 W-30 4-Speed

[@andylappin4801]

Campy, thank you so much.. what a great time. Car is original 62,000 car, one repaint in 1986 by the second owner.

[@musclecarcampy9922]

It was truly my pleasure. Every gearchange was a joy!

[@carmenmallore3368]

Andy, I know the complete history of that car. I also painted the car. I first saw it back in 1975…get a hold of me if you want to about it thanks

[@louiskats5116]

G’day Muscle Car Campy, I consider myself Oldsmobile Biggest Australian Fan, here in Australia you just wouldn’t see a Oldsmobile anywhere let alone anyone knowing they actually exist. My absolute favourite Oldsmobile, 1968 W31, hope you are going to to show a W31. I have 1:18 Diecast of every year Oldsmobile. Yes I am a die heart Mopar Guy but after Mopar it is Oldsmobile. I am friends with a gentleman here in Melbourne that has the only 1970 Oldsmobile W30 in Australia & I hope to go for a drive in it soon, it is a auto. What isn’t to love about W30’s there is just not a bad angle on them, & those rear quarters just magnificent how they flare out. Thank you for sharing. Cheers Louis Kats from Melbourne, Australia 🇦🇺 🇺🇸 👍

[@musclecarcampy9922]

Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate your support!

[@randyolds]

I have the same car. Mine is silver with black stripes and black interior, console and 391 posi gears. 48,000 original miles on it.

[@dnx112]

Nice car sir. For sale?

[@randyolds]

@@dnx112 No I've had it since 1983.

[@bruceallen6016]

Wish I still had mine. 1970 W30 4 spd car, red with white accents and interior. You guys know your stuff about these cars! Thanks for the memories. 😎

[@bjoseph8527]

New rule - Muscle Car Campy needs HIS turn behind the wheel going forward!! Now that was a laid back owner! Love it.

[@musclecarcampy9922]

I was honored he let me drive it and burn rubber in it.

[@Marc816]

Oldsmobile rated it at 370 HP @ 5000 RPM. There were those back then who said that was about 100 HP too low.

[@musclecarcampy9922]

5400. Definitely underrated, but not be nearly that much. We addressed this in the video.

[@kevinwoolmer5478]

I've seen a few factory rebuilds and 400/410 is accurate. It's the torque that gets it done

[@musclecarcampy9922]

@@kevinwoolmer5478Torque gets you going, but horsepower wins races.

[@mattspontiacta]

Wow what a beautiful 1970 W-30 and a 4 speed!!! Very cool owner to let you drive his pride and joy. I always liked the W-30 cars. Guy in high school had a 1969 455 W-30 it was blue with black stripes. I had a 69 GTO with a 400. Later I put in a 1970 455 engine in it. That was back in 1978-79. You could buy those A bodies back in the late 70s for 1000-2500 bucks and the cars were nice and usually had about 60-70k miles on them. I bought my 69 GTO for 1200 bucks in 1978. Car was immaculate and only had 70k on her. Those were the days. Today I have a 1981 Pontiac Trans Am Daytona 500 Turbo Pace car. I have a Pontiac 461 stroker in her.

[@musclecarcampy9922]

The owner not only let me drive it, but encouraged me to beat it like a red-headed stepchild. What a great guy!

[@mattspontiacta]

@@musclecarcampy9922 I saw that. I know that was a blast driving that 455 beast 👍

[@timsacco6g694]

I had an Aztec Gold 69 442 #'s matching four speed with factory air, buckets and console, I was restoring it in the mid nineties and lost it in divorce. Before I took it apart, I let it rip in my new housing development, what an absolute BEAST!, I quickly returned to the for fear someone would call the cops, I sold it for pennies on the dollar of what I had in it to a guy who restored cars as a side gig, when he was done it was absolutely gorgeous!, man, what I wouldn't give to have that car now!

[@matrox]

Such stylish cars back then. A friend of my brother had a 68 442 convertible 4 speed, back in the early and mid 70s. I bought a 69' Ply Road Runner in the mid 70s. My current car is a 2017 Super Sport Camaro 6 speed manual trans.

[@mattgause3178]

By far GM did the absolute best job at fresh air induction......from cowl induction, the the Ram Air IV cars, to this drop dead gorgeous 70 442.....that hood on the car is genius engineering. You can definitely discern from the video that the car has fantastic driving characteristics.....indeed, life is too short to drive boring cars! Lol Good job on this video 😎💯🏁

[@DanEBoyd]

Love those Oldsmobiles!

[@mrho4speed]

Fabulous car = love all the W-30 options on these cars!

[@richarddevoe5871]

That 442 is an animal !!! Sure wish I had been in a better position when I had a chance to buy a 70 - W30 for $2500 in 1992. Always wanted one 👍🏼

[@markwilliams5606]

This is just one of many of Great dependable cars.

[@jeffcathline5431]

I had a 1969 442 convertible 4 speed with 3.91 rear . Dark green white stripes white top.

[@matrox]

My father drove Olds only. Big Ninety Eight 4 door land yachts. Drove like floating on a cloud.

[@musclecarcampy9922]

My ‘75 Delta 88 convertible just levitated over the road. Train tracks felt like toothpicks.

[@trucking604]

What a fine looking machine!

[@willyhwang1059]

olds and pontiacs!

[@audieconrad8995]

Enjoyed the ride myself... Keep'er between the lines brothah!

[@musclecarcampy9922]

Always!

[@MWILSON7]

Another great video! Can’t wait to see more!

[@musclecarcampy9922]

More to come!

[@robertfinkelman549]

Were the red wheel well liners just a quirky aesthetic choice? Was there a story behind them? The car in the video is just flat-out gorgeous. Hard to believe that folks in the south would buy W30s and live without AC for the sake of power!

[@johnfloyd838]

My first cutlass that I had was a 71 442 and me and my cousin did a lot of work to it and I put a 411 posi rear in it and I took it to the Atco speedway in Atco new jersey and it ran low 12's in the 1/4 mile and both front tires would come off the ground and the back tires would be screeching and I absolutely loved it and I have been hooked on cuttlass's ever since then, they were very powerful machines and had a great body style and were very reliable and very friggin fast without nitrous ❤️😎💪👍

[@oldsguy49]

I love he 70 W30 and the hood and all but as a long time lover of the 66 W30. Nothing sounds like a tripower Olds on the pipe and slamming gears. Supposedly both equipped with good gearing, slicks and headers the performance was the same. There is a fully restored well prepared 66 on the web that looks brand new and it ran back to back to back 12.50. I have ridden in a 66 and a 70 and the effects in the 66 are much better in the 66. Jus Sayin!

[@musclecarcampy9922]

You mean like this one? Tri-Carb Terror: '66 Track Pack 4-4-2 Drive Report kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWOUZqpumdmWb9U

[@johnmoriarty6158]

That's one sweet ride!

[@CuaxB]

1970 was the best year for the 442. Not only for performance. The look of the 442 as a whole. The rear bumper and tail lights of all the similar years 69-72 the 70 was the best look. I think the 72 would be second best looking. with the vertical and horizontal splits. The 71 horizontal split was not as good but ok. The only thing 71 and 72 took away power as well as the hood coming down to split the grill with it now a part of the grill. The Olds fastback Holiday coupes were some of the best looking cars EVER made. Sure Chevelles and GTOs were similar but only Olds and Buick had that clean muscle luxury look. Awesome car and I look forward to seeing more.

[@tonymangrum8503]

My first car was a 70 4-4-2 holiday coupe. 4 speed had the typical back windshield rot and all fenders had the rot also. I didn't care the first time I ran through that 4 speed no lift shifting I was sold. I gave 3,500 bucks in 1997. I should have never sold it but youth is wasted on the young.

[@billdedrick1914]

Looks like this car has the typical wheel hop issue which can be easily resolved...This car sounds like it has a M22 Rock Crusher trans (gear whine in the 1st 3 gears) which was not an option until 1971. Is it a M22 or M21?

[@musclecarcampy9922]

M21. The M22 was not available.

[@billdedrick1914]

@@musclecarcampy9922 Yes I know.. I owned both a 1970 and 1971 W30..The 70 had M21 3.91 rear, The 71 had M22 with a 3.91 gear..Great muscle cars..I now own GS455 Stage 1 cars..

[@andylappin4801]

@@billdedrick1914 70 had m21 with a 3;42 or 3;91 gear, your choice..

[@christopherbrennan-lx9hd]

My w-30 that I have now , well , have had for decades. I think I've had it since i was i can't remember , after Highschool!!! And this was the keeper and the fastest one that i had well, not true.I had several!! 4 speed,s, automatic,s 4 spd 70 W-30 post coupe,lots of 442,s 660through 72 and of coy later all the vista cruisers and later Hurst,s and so on! But the one I've been holding onto runs on a cool beautiful evening now and always did ,pardon my french, LIKE a FN RAPED APE!! And still has a mind of its own meaning that its to last summer and in the day time ,hot and i jad this guy Vincent Rob. I don't want to give away his last name because he may not like that but anyway im as rolling,racingthoughts that i cant stop alot snd don't like it but accept it after what I've been through ,we all have our own but I didn't always have this thing but snapped several times and bang ,itmy fight 24-7 and God givith ,God take!! But anyway again , I was cruisin on ,i 95 , middle lane, window,s open,anti just stepped on it,to the floor and bang, this Thing just jumped ,leaped , whatever man it threw even me that day and time not expecting at all, this at all the thrust,and leaving rubber the whole way for like a good 3 seconds but at 70 mph!!!!! G dang ,snd that kick inyour gut,and Vinny yells out and at 70 miles an hour! Yep a surprise for me to that summer day and i had some pretty big meats back there too ,no Bf Goodrich white lettering tires that i see on most 70,s muscle cars! Or the original style tires that do look awsume on the car i have to admit but things like that happen alot and usually when i leasty expect it! I GOTTA say ,yeah ,i could easily see a kid or person wrapping this car around a telephone pole very easy because ive almost donn it many times and this is with my 0w Auto trans and the stock 342,s so im old now and also don't wana twist that sucka to much past or im gonna shoot a rod through that block ! The funny thing is i still have the original cam and lifters in there ,hard for me to believe and I've gott the timming so far back its crazy Ive frlt it with more deegree and Dam,i wish. God bless you all all! And dang ,i could of wrote a book!! Se what i meen! HaHa!! Should of kept Olds and killed Saturn

[@gregleenyit]

Dream Machine

[@joequillun7790]

Hey Campster, does that machine have a "Mondello" tune to it? It sounds really strong. Even with the crappy Olds log exhaust manifolds. Imagine how many ponies it would pick up with a set of Poncho "style" RA manifolds, or a set of hedders. But you did good finding this one. Stick shift, gold in and out, but wish you had mentioned the rear gear. Guessing it's a 3.42? And kudos to the owner for getting rubber outta 3 gears. Very nice. Thanks for the show. 👍

[@musclecarcampy9922]

It has all matching numbers; only the cam has been changed (custom-ground Bullet Racing cam). Yes, it is a 3.42 rear.

[@andylappin4801]

No mondello nothing, my good friend Phil is a super tuner, he tuned the carb, timing and set up distributor. Matching numbers 70 w30

[@markcook3570]

DEAR SANTA...

[@badgerbait8351]

@7:55 "67 SS 396 El Camino". As I recall, the Mino didn't have the SS badge until 68?! 😎

[@musclecarcampy9922]

You are correct. My bad.

[@andylappin4801]

Its a 67 big block 4 speed factory el co

[@JustMe-pc2ii]

Awesome car

[@rajcam80]

Love it!

[@musclecarcampy9922]

Me too.

[@JohnSample-h6n]

I would rather have the glove box open due to body flex than having the windshield pop out like what would happen to V-8 Vegas with 4-speeds.

[@christopherbrennan-lx9hd]

Yep only a M21 no m22!

[@matthewennen9311]

It would had been nice if 68tto80 cadillac had a 10,1 comperasstion know i know why olds has no ac but 71to73 delta 88 and 98 455 wher one of my faverite olds 😅this w30 having eleteric windodwes awsome

[@hollywoodn3324]

Question: is the transmission an M22?

[@andylappin4801]

M21, all 1970 w30 4 speeds were m21 only

[@hollywoodn3324]

@@andylappin4801 thank you. I asked because it sounded like a '22 whine.

[@JohnSample-h6n]

It’s strange the redline on the tach is at 6000, but the horsepower peaks at 5200.

[@musclecarcampy9922]

The tachometer is actually an applause meter. Higher you rev, the louder the cheers.

[@richkunkiewicz9070]

Gear wind sounds like M22 TRANNY?

[@musclecarcampy9922]

Nope. It is an M21. The M22 was not available.

[@richkunkiewicz9070]

Beautiful car. I LOVE THE COLOR.

[@stanlee399]

Didn't hear what the final drive ratio was ? ⚙️

[@musclecarcampy9922]

3.42:1.

[@stanlee399]

@@musclecarcampy9922 Perfect 👌

[@jeffcarpenter396]

Nice

[@martistassi507]

😍

[@musclecarcampy9922]

Exactly.

[@BrandonLeeBrown]

The manual transmission camshaft was optional in the 1970 W-30 with automatic transmission, but the standard automatic transmission camshaft was different. For whatever reason, Vista Cruiser station wagons came with W-30 exhaust manifolds.

[@kimmorrison9169]

Interesting bit of information. Never heard this B4.

[@andylappin4801]

I don’t believe that’s correct on getting the 328 cam in the auto cars..

[@BrandonLeeBrown]

@@andylappin4801 Yes, Olds went all out in 1970 and that was one of the options. In 68 and 69 it only came in manual transmission W-30 400's, but when Olds went with a Tornado type camshaft in 1970 automatics, they made the 328 camshaft an option in them.

[@andylappin4801]

That isn’t correct, we will have to agree to disagree. 328 cam was not an option in an automatic 1970 w30 car

[@BrandonLeeBrown]

@@andylappin4801 I have seen it listed as a option and somebody once published how many were factory assembled. I don't recall the number, but it wasn't many. It was not the standard camshaft if somebody ordered automatic, but it was listed as an additional option. Remember Olds pulled all the stops in 1970, with aluminum intakes, fiberglass and W27 rears. The standard 1970 W30 automatic cam was smaller than the 1969 W30 400 with automatic.

[@gteefxr3094]

Foot-pounds...not Pound-feet Crank the compression.

[@musclecarcampy9922]

According to SAE Standard J1349, it is Lb-Ft. if you look at the factory decal under the hood, it says 500 lb-ft.

[@joequillun7790]

@@musclecarcampy9922 A fan since day one Campster, but I never knew any gearhead who specified "pound feet". When ever I hear people spout that, I tell them to "pound sand". It's always been foot lbs in my neighborhood. I believe Motors repair manuals from the 60s specified "ft/lbs" also. Anyway, who cares. It's all apples and oranges in the end. :)

[@musclebone7875]

4 speeds might be fun to drive, but automatics are faster.

[@musclecarcampy9922]

Now, yes. Back then, not true in most cases. If you could powershift a stick, it was a couple of tenths quicker than an automatic.

[@musclebone7875]

@@musclecarcampy9922 my th400 gets me down the real quick 😆

[@musclecarcampy9922]

​​⁠I am sure it does, but it is 2024 now, not 1968. Ronnie Sox could have used the best automatic at the time, the 727, but he didn’t get the name Mr. 4-Speed by using one.

[@musclebone7875]

@@musclecarcampy9922 believe it or not I run modern cars on the streets with my 3-speed. My 496 make gobs of low end torque. Most people don't understand it's the combination that makes a car fast. I get what you are saying though. 😆

[@spc_inv]

With this olds being a four speed W-30 it has a hotter cam than the W-30 automatic cars. This gives the four speeds an advantage over the automatics in acceleration and power