Burnout Vs. Depression - How To Tell the Difference

Burnout versus depression- how do you tell the difference? Burnout is usually thought of as something that happens professionally or caused by work stress. But the way it makes you feel can feel similar to depression. A common definition is that it has three components: exhaustion, cynicism, and inefficacy.
In this video I discuss how to tell the difference between depression and burnout, how burnout develops and some ways to avoid it or deal with it once you have it.
Here are some videos reference in the video
Depersonalization video
• What Is Depersonalizat...
Depression playlist
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References
Maslach C, Schaufeli W, Leiter M. Job burnout. Ann Rev Psychol. 2001;52:397-422.
The Tired, Retired, and Recovered Physician: Professional Burnout Versus Major Depressive Disorder. Am J Psychiatry. 2018 Aug 1;175(8):716-719.
Bianchi R, Schonfeld IS, Laurent E: Is burnout separable from depression
in cluster analysis? A longitudinal study. Soc Psychiatry movement Psychiatr Epidemiol 2015; 50:1005-1011
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[@DrTraceyMarks]

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[@hockinghillsalive3624]

You're fantastic lol... where in the heck is your call to action or website link?!?!

[@sapphiremontrelle8091]

The way you explained this was wonderful. The vacation reference gave me a better understanding. Thank you

[@jonathanjollimore7156]

Exhaustion check cynicism DOUBLE check inefficacy triple check...

[@chiliesauce8381]

🌹sweety your videos are very fascinating baby🌹

[@moonshoes11]

I suffer from both simultaneously. Though, my burnout is homeless related not work. Single father, raising kids.

[@eiguajardo]

plot twist: severe burn out can take even years to recover, and you can also get burn out in a job you love, if you refuse to rest and balance your life.

[@Peresphone]

Exactly it’s taken me years to recover, I loved working and doing too much, in addition to a toxic family, issues etc will ignite that burnout

[@MrsYoung-in9ov]

🙋🏼‍♀️

[@eiguajardo]

Yes , people pleasing , fighting lost causes , toxic surroundings , is not only a job, there’s different reasons for burnout , if you have them all it can get you to permanent disabilities , terminal diseases , chronic pain , or death .

[@dansan2019]

Yep. I've needed to take a week off in the past just to collect my thoughts and improve my mental health.

[@PamSesheta]

This might be happening to me. It seems that I’ve been in burnout and sliding into depression now that my support network and marriage have exploded

[@Namari12]

"People who are burned out can become depressed. It can start as burnout and progress to depression." Oh, it's me. I'm in the completely wrong industry, an intense introvert stuck in a sales role. It's hell.

[@cryola787]

Ahhh I felt that. Has your job helped you become more outgoing at all?

[@Namari12]

@@cryola787 Hm.. I would say it's made me better at faking extroversion. I can put on a very outgoing, bubbly, people-loving face during the day, but then I just have to sit at home silently vegging trying to recharge before the next day. I've never been 'shy' though really, the introversion is more like having your batteries drained when you're interacting with other people. The more you interact with people, the faster your batteries get drained. The burnout/depression I'm dealing with now feels a lot like a battery that's broken and won't charge at all because it's been recharged too many times and it's lost its 'oomph'. I guess that's the best metaphor?

[@cryola787]

Namari12 oh my! I wish you the best and I hope you find the job best for you!

[@Clickhawaii]

This is me I’m in sales and I hate what I do I constantly feel pushed and I feel like I’m just saying the same shit everyday selling bs

[@calmaschamomile1252]

I love when people recommend becoming more social to rid introversion 💀 It only works for a while!

[@canavezipaula]

Earlier this year, I started medical residency. As soon as I noticed the signs of burnout, I told the team that I would need to anticipate my vacation, even if it was only 1 week. The boss denied my request, and went on to say that in the old days, the work was much harder than it is today, and said that he didn't think first-year residents should even take vacations. After 4 months, burnout turned into depression and I gave up on the program, on my dream. Today, I look back and see that just 1 week away from work, just playing Candy Crush in my room, could have prevented months of anhedonia, suicidal thoughts, feelings of worthlessness... I hope that in the near future there will be a greater awareness of burnout.

[@jimenarivera7512]

I hope you are better now

[@christinaleite6588]

We need more people like you in medicine and less people like your boss.

[@le_th_]

I am not in medicine. I am patient. As a patient, I've even noticed my oculoplastic surgeon making derisive comments about how "when I was a fellow..." stories, followed by how abusive his superiors were to him during his oculoplastic fellowship, his surgical residency, and med school. There is some sort of warped pride from having survived despite the abuse...the self-neglect on all levels...and that they survived it. By the way, this came up when I told him that I brought his oculoplastic fellow a snack because he hadn't eaten all day. This goes on in every field...and it has been getting worse, and worse, since the 1980s (thanks to the narcissistic yuppies and their workaholism so they could avoid having to spend time with their kids). We can't allow ruthlessly greed-drive psychopaths...workaholic narcissists who get their sense of self-worth from over-achieving...and other morally bankrupt individuals to ruin our lives and our work. I'm very sorry for what you experienced. Yet, at the same time, I'm happy for you that you learned an important lesson. When you get older, no one from your job is going to be at your bedside when you're sick...when your body breaks down because you didn't take care of it...when your immune system hasn't functioned effectively because you deprived it of the sleep it needed to effectively repair the body and itself. You don't have to give up on your dream unless you come to realize it wasn't what you expected it to be. Talk to people decades into their medical careers now. Ask them now...if they would choose this line of work again. If you do this, I think you might eventually realize you dodged a bullet. Whatever you decide about your career going forward, I wish you a full recovery, and I wish you continued strength so that you can honor your boundaries without being punished for it. For decades, physicians and surgeons have been abusing students, residents, attendings...trying to MAKE THEM drop out. There is a long, long history of this. There is WAY TOO MUCH PSYCHOPATHOLOGY IN MEDICINE and too many psychopaths who are CEOs of hospitals and pharmaceutical companies. They LOVE to try and break people any way they can.

[@Dudemon-1]

Doctor, I don't know where you live, but your skills are needed. Yes, it's difficult to get a residency (at least in the US), but you can get back on track once you've recovered!

[@TheCrazyCatHouse]

The Sunday evening dread. Very reconiseable. Following by a night of hardly sleeping, and feeling depressed the next day.

[@max.cr33p]

Sunday is the worst day of the week for me, it's Sunday now where I live and I'm dreading the next day. I need a break. But the next days off are on Thanksgiving, and that's WEEKS away.

[@Joey-un3hy]

Same here - I keep telling myself life is not meant to be like this... the rat race the people and the company politics

[@Clickhawaii]

@@Joey-un3hy same way I feel although grateful to have a job during these times I’m checked out

[@Joey-un3hy]

@@Clickhawaii I quitted - I can no longer stand the nastiness of people in the corporate world - make me lose faith in humanity

[@imadeyoureadthis1]

Oh damn, it is 4 am right now, in some hours the sun goes up and Monday begins. Weird, but i guess expected.

[@candycane5568]

My burnout has led to depression. I hate my job and can’t wait to leave. I’m overworked and underpaid.

[@hxunter4260]

i used to make music and dont enjoy doing it anymore, i feel that ..

[@elaela3407]

did you leave it?

[@sarahm2878]

We all are. Welcome to Adulting in America.

[@littleredhen8205]

Same. Even worse, my partner doesn't seem to take any of this seriously. Which makes me rethink the relationship in addition to what's going on with my professional life.

[@jhorseplayy4713]

@@hxunter4260 same

[@johnkovary5121]

I think this would be a very good discussion to have with college bound students.

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Yes it's easy for them to overdo it with studies and it's a good time to learn good habits early on.

[@johnkovary5121]

Dr. Tracey Marks I sent my daughter who's in college this video and the previous one. I hope she views them several times over. This past two weeks she has been using words like unsuccessful, dumb, empty, lost, left behind, discarded, forgotten, pressured, quarantine, outside and I have nothing. Dr. Marks what are your thoughts on this ❓

[@be_luna]

@@johnkovary5121 I relate to your daughter. I hope that this video helped her even if it’s a little

[@TheDiaryofDestaney]

This would be a good discussion for college students. I'm dealing with this now and I've been in college for 2 years.

[@ruamahaine9715]

I love this woman because she gives me what I didn't know I needed

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Oh I love that! Keep watching - hopefully I'll have some other videos that meet the same needs

[@marianjesus8014]

The same feeling as you 👍👍

[@bravehats]

Key to life is to live a simple life. "Go to school, get married, have kids, get a mortgage, get a well paying job to sustain this life style"....it goes on and on. Simple life is best.

[@bellamichelle6248]

bravehats have all that, still depressed

[@bravehats]

@@bellamichelle6248 that's my point. Those are the things that contribute to depression. Life should be simple, but we make it hard for ourselves by buying into the worldly things

[@sfu3913]

I’ve been told that studies show that a vacation really doesn’t provide much relief as symptoms come back almost immediately after returning to normal life.

[@hmadsen6480]

I'm almost crying from watching this video. As a self-funded PhD researcher, I've been incredibly driven and engaged in my work but in the last couple of months my supervisor has turned against me, discarded all my work and made me feel completely worthless. Most of my thoughts now revolve around feeling lost, empty and dumb. And for the first time in my life, I've lost all interest in what I do.

[@KrishnaYogini]

Everything will be alright, have faith in Goodness, and all is well. This too shall pass...More power to you, stay strong and focussed, the Supervisor isn't everything though it seems to be..Hope you are feeling better, it's been 4 months..Much love and regards💜 Stay blessed💫

[@hmadsen6480]

@@KrishnaYogini Thank you for your kind message! How nice of you to take the time to write to a complete stranger. I ended up withdrawing from the program and am now in therapy to cope with the emotional trauma from the abuse of my supervisor. I'm also in process of filing a complaint against the university. It's still a dream shattered but at least I'm taking back control!

[@ricardoherrera9405]

@@KrishnaYogini My master thesis supervisor is making my life really hard. I am going through a long time burntout (maybe already depression) and facing her is really overwhelming. She attacks my work all the time without reasons. She publicly interrupts me when I am giving a presentation. She gives absolutely no positive comments. I can't get out because of debt and family economic problems. I am pulling myself together all the time. I hope to get it over soon. Thanks for sharing

[@andrewrees8749]

My supervisor treats me like dirt too, ruins my working day, I need to learn to ignore him,he's a complete Narcissistic bastard. He knows he gets to me and thrives on it, good luck with the future,

[@shaniecegullison]

Omggg same

[@ryanjoshuarx]

Having a “mental health day” today from residency because I felt like I “wasn’t a person”. I woke up feeling a “boulder”. It’s hard to explain.

[@e.knowlton9395]

I dont know you, but Ive never related to anther so deeply. We call them "Calling in Sick-of-it "

[@zakosist]

@@reb7940 Paid sick days should be required by law where it isn't already. If they want to discourage people from abusing it then a solution could be to pay less than on days you work, and over a certain amount you may need a doctors notice. But that pay should never go below paying for food and bills, so if they want to lower it they have to pay more in the first place.

[@joannabraham9812]

U sure described it easily and accurately 🙏🏽😃

[@joannabraham9812]

@@e.knowlton9395 i called it i broke a nail-edness🤣👀 sLick leaveTHAT SHIT ALONE

[@aicerg]

@@zakosist I am actually curious as to how do paid sick days work in other places? Because in my country ANY day, it doesn't matter how sick you are, you need a doctor's notice to get paid. Meaning that if you get really sick, but you treat yourself at home or just need to rest and don't go to a doctor, you don't have a right to get paid.

[@rymleilamellal4466]

I noticed that for some burnt out people, it doesn't really stop at one aspect of their lives. As I write this comment, I am reminded of a case I had recently, someone who had all the symptoms of burn out but she felt so ineffective and anxious that she became very irritable around her family and felt like she couldn't manage her personal life as well. As soon as she left her job for something less stressful, all of er symptoms just vanished.

[@Tirannie]

I call that part my "Burnout spillover effects". I'm exhausted, my tank is empty and running on fumes, I have reduced executive function capacity to interact with my loved ones, so I'm more likely to get defensive/angry or be impatient or short with someone, so I'm telling myself more negative self-stories than usual, so my self-esteem starts taking a hit, so I'm more likely to have issues regulating my emotions, so this whole cycle on its next round is about 2x worse and I'm repeating the same cycle every day. It's like a snake eating its own tail.

[@Sol36900]

Thank you for this insight. It explains so much about my problems.

[@Gir0Fan0Number01]

I was like that before/mid lockdown. My previous job was a toxic environment, with both store, and company, management issues that kept hitting our store staff. Consulted a doctor, changed jobs, took a break, much better situation. Job still sucks sometimes, but that's life. The management is great, with good people, and I am happy to go to work, even if I don't like mornings

[@RaquelPereira-fj4kt]

She just said that in the video

[@kimhodgson1748]

​@@Tiranniethis is me

[@creativedutchess4866]

Instead of changing me to cope with the job. I changed the job. Best decision of my life, can recommend!

[@nur-e-diphamuttaqi]

WOW... Another great video.... I now realised, it wasn't depression. I had mood swings due to a severe burnout these last few months. Yayyyy... I overworked myself as a self-employed architect. HAHAHA... But two weeks ago, I have moved at a walking-distance to my office, saving 3-hours of horrific traffic and travel time everyday and I have more time to myself and for self-care.

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Excellent. That extra three hours are make a big difference for you. I hope you feel better soon 🙂

[@WhoaThereMama]

This video was filmed before COVID, but COVID burnout is its own beast. It’s hard to tell if something is burnout or depression when there’s literally no escaping the global situation

[@clarailkesoares5452]

I'm a nursing resident and I had a burnout during the second wave of covid here in Brazil that led me to a depressive episode. It took me 2 months away from work, medication and lots of therapy, and it's really what you said. I didn't realize I was burned out until I got acutely depressed, because being tired and thinking catastrophic stuff is gonna happen seemed normal as a nurse working during the worst pandemic anyone alive could remember

[@djkleb7645]

The key is the pleasure, as she said if you're unable to feel pleasure is depression if you feel pleasure while going out of your environment is a burnout An example of depression is for a teenager a breakout in a relationship can lead to depression, to an adult losing their jobs or a divorce can lead to depression.

[@88948895611499]

I'm burned out...I feel so sad right now as i type this. I never got the chance to travel ANYWHERE. Soon as i was about to book my first trip, covid happened now I'm stuck here. I work at the unemployment office so my workload quadrupled almost overnight. I'm blessed to have a job but I need a vacation. I wish I would've had the chance to travel before all this happened because I know things will never be the same...

[@AntoineTroupe]

I really hope everything worked out. My heart goes out to you!

[@leeboriack8054]

Dear one, I feel your pain. I try to create mini vacations, by a local visit w friends at a new restaurant or a new park w friends or a day to trip outside the city to a neighboring town.

[@garlicgirl3149]

I have tried to tell people it is not just health care but anyone related to the pandemic...you are one of them. Even IT that help hospital etc they are made to work overtime. So COVID just being another flu, no no no noooo it is not!

[@HINATA13845]

I hope that you’ve been able to travel, find a new job, or just become less burned out 💖

[@ree2theree596]

I’ve been a nurse for 12 years and this last year with Covid has completely burned me out!

[@arnhood]

Thank you for your work. You guys don't get thanked nearly enough. You are real heroes.

[@xoxoali9070]

Thank you for your hard work 💓

[@JeffSans]

tnx for ur hard work

[@darthtyranous4514]

Thank you for your hard work! But please take a break when necessary.

[@MononokeLynn]

Work in sterile processing, and covid caused our OR to chug full steam ahead only one month after everything shut down in April 2020. We didnt have the resources and PPE, but the suits told us to deal with it, which was infuriating. We finally got small gloves for the first time last month.

[@TNGURL08]

I'm definitely burned out! I'm just over it. I need a break from eveverything. Its manifesting into anger and some hormonal depression. Thx for this video Doc 👩‍⚕️

[@tammysipes4722]

I'm in same boat you are!!

[@superdoggopuggowuggo1273]

I am actually experiencing this now dude, totally on the same boat too... (;(

[@Rev_GC]

A narcissist in your circles or family can start this avalanche off.

[@jodyventurino7907]

I was just thinking this when I came across your comment. So so true.

[@pumakel1]

I went through that .. 3 years on and I’m still not myself, dear God don’t let it be a 4th year

[@vinestreetlady]

I'm a depressed person who has become burnt out, the cycle is vicious. This video is great to not feel so alone! Thanks Dr. Marks!

[@LordOfTheRings897]

This is how I felt working in retail. I was constantly berated, cussed out, belittled as a person, then managers would break the rules to satisfy the customer and make me look dumb like I don't know the policies. It was the worst job I've ever had.

[@Dani_77709]

I work in retail and while our manager takes our side when it comes to difficult customers, the upper/higher management are run by petty children who don't give a shit about the people who work under them. I'm not exaggerating, it is that bad and out of 9 coworkers (including me) only 2 haven't mentioned quitting this year. In summer something happened where the consequences still ripple and man...the corruption is real.

[@hadichamli]

Been burnt out for over a week, I'm a college student who's dealing with instructors that give tons of work and weekly exams (we even have exams on Saturdays), and being the eldest of my siblings, I also have a ton of responsibility at home. I don't even feel motivated to practice some of my hobbies.

[@janmeyer3129]

And the instructors are feeling burnt out trying to cope with the marking within the time constraints set.

[@linzzay0236]

@@janmeyer3129 what is that adding to her post? Obvi others have it hard too?

[@garlicgirl3149]

Hold on...rooting for you.

[@barrywelch5999]

3:50 - The Sunday evening dread is what brought me here. I have a great paying job that pays bills, but I don’t like being there. It’s now Sunday evening, and it’s the last day of a 2 week break from work. I was giddy for the first week, but I began feeling depressed about going back. I think I’m just burned out. I’ve held this job for 15 years and have reported to the same director, who has no desire to develop her direct reports. Everyone reporting to her is basically there to help her succeed in her role. She continually hires external people to fill senior roles and does not promote anyone existing in our division into these roles. The only way up, is to leave. I guess I’ve had enough of my job, but I feel afraid to leave and start over.

[@b.j.7837]

Wow, you must have some killer coping skills to be able to keep going back after 15 yrs. Not being happy in a job is so draining, imo. It is scary to think of leaving, moving on, as you just don’t know what’s out there, where you’ll “land.” But, do you want to stay there until you retire? Would you be satisfied with that? just some food for thought Good luck to you in whatever you decide to do. 🙂

[@turnertwist]

I know how you feel. Your Director sounds like mine, she only cares about making herself look good, doesnt care about what is good for the staff and tries to divide people so it looks like we dont know how to do our jobs. Its a good job but the internal drama is exhausting. I wish I could leave but I am afraid to.

[@laketriasharpless2382]

I have really bad Sunday dred...it has progressed to something more. But i am the 2nd income and i have to hold up my end as well and i have 4 kids. I hope i will get over this, im so tired

[@gbb82]

It’s Sunday and I am watching this because I dread going to work tomorrow. The job pays the bills and I am saving for retirement, but I don’t like the job. What choice do I have? We are in COVID and I am lucky to be working. Now they are getting ready to pile on more work for the same pay.

[@anniesshenanigans3815]

@@gbb82 and the excuse for no raises, no extra help? covid. It was bs before covid... ugh.

[@RebelInHerOwnRight]

I adore her. So much clarity on my own situation with depression and my brothers schizophrenia.

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Thanks so very much 🤗

[@heatherhallo]

This video changed my life. Finally someone said all the things I’ve been feeling and trying to explain to my family. Nobody understood. Felt like I was going crazy!!

[@steamboy101]

This was really good, thanks. Modern life can be a real trap sometimes, particularly with career disillusionment. You pick a career (engineering in my case) and after 20 - 30 years you grow to despise it. Yet, you’re hitting middle-age, making good money and it’s nearly impossible to make a switch and maintain your obligations. Yes, you can pivot and “follow you passion” but leave a wake of disaster behind you for those depending on you. Life’s got you!

[@Flo-cy4xc]

It's funny you took being on an island as an example... I remember 2 years ago when I was at the worst of my depression, being on vacation with family and friends on a french island, and I was feeling so miserable... Crying when lying on the beach, crying when riding a bike, hiding to cry when having dinner with friends... The environnement was perfect but the darkness was in me ! I recently talked about this vacation with friends who were there, and they were talking about what we did, the great memories they had, how the weather was perfect; and I noticed I was barely remembering anything... Just very unclear images, no details, no emotions linked to it... Can that be linked to the depression? Is it possible to almost wash out a month of your life?

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Hi Amy. Yes you can be in such a state that your thought processing is affected. people can experience a pretty significant cognitive decline when they are depressed. So if you are affected that way, it stands to reason that when you clear up that period of time would be a vague, abstract memory.

[@TheWonderGirl23]

You were in a state of depression at that time

[@okhan1011]

I had literally the same experience in Bali. 12000 miles away in paradise and completely miserable

[@edbrito-swdev]

I have almost no recollection of 3 years of my life... I didn't know I was sick at the time. That was 15 years ago and I'm still facing my depression. The anxiety is better though.

[@user-nk9pz8lp4d]

Ashnikko has a song called “panick attacks in paradise” which I relate to and you might too. I hope you have gotten more help since you made this post

[@dude4173]

Wow, thanks. I’ve been confused about the difference. I now understand I’m in a burnout phase. I have so much work piled up and so many missed deliverables that I don’t see myself catching up. The idea of someone even talking half of my workload would make me happier.

[@Sol36900]

This is why I was happy with the lockdown. Able to work from home, having a break from people was a huge weight off my mental health. For the first time in years, I could breathe.

[@l3t.x]

I love this Doctor, she explains things really good

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Thank you so much Kyle 😊

[@michaelojeda8338]

In the so-called persut of happiness we mostly find unhappiness.

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Very interesting point...

[@ejw1234]

Any seeking outside of ourselves for direction and with our analytical mind tends to get us in trouble and stuck and miserable. It can lock us into this need for external validation or never confronting the not good enough, seeking compulsion, the next thing, the next solution, the next job that aligns with my soul, read this book, take this supplement. It's just never good enough.

[@laurensheldrake2902]

That exotic island analogy is so incredibly helpful!! It clarified that I'm feeling burnout rather than depression. So now I'm going to try and address the factors that led to it. Thank you, Dr Marks!!

[@dr.karidouglas1312]

If you're watching this video and feeling like you're at the end of your rope, please know that you're not alone. It's okay to reach out for help, whether that's through therapy, medication, or just talking to a friend. It can be a long and difficult journey, but there is hope and healing on the other side. Thank you to the creator for sharing their story and shedding light on this important topic.

[@dr.karidouglas1312]

I can't say enough good things about Dr.hansenrosario. Their research on the benefits of psilocybin-containing mushrooms for mental health is groundbreaking

[@lukeangell2448]

@@dr.karidouglas1312I'm skeptical about using mushrooms for mental health, but Dr.hansenrosario's research is really compelling. Their products seem to be high-quality, too.

[@charlesharrison3207]

It's rare to find someone doing such important work in the mental health field. Dr.hansenrosario is a true visionary.

[@liamphilpkent6250]

Dr.hansenrosario ships?

[@dr.karidouglas1312]

Yes, he ships discreet and anonymous

[@JanacMeena]

* People can hold up well against stress if they are getting satisfaction from their work * The way to reduce burnout is to either change the environment or the individual * To cope with the work setting, set time boundaries. Don't be infinitely available. * Prioritize sleep * Exercise * Meditation. Headspace. * Consider changing companies or jobs

[@Weeflowerofscotland]

I’m burnt out. I’m a mum of 4 with one of my boys having complex additional support needs and autism. I need a break. Thanks for helping me figure out it may not be depression!

[@cravingwanders8254]

Such a good timing for me to see this video. Thanks a lot, Dr. Marks! Learning a lot from you. All the best!

[@binaryswinery5862]

Thank you Tracey. This has helped me a lot to understand my feelings.

[@anythinginvolvingsharks]

"Who wouldn't love that? With the depressed person, none of that stuff matters. The darkness is still in your head." -loled because i am intimately aware of this feeling!

[@-Godlovesme-]

For me the burnout comes from having a narcissistic spouse. I am working on that currently! Thank you for this it meant the world, as I've had depression living with a narcissistic spouse. When I started reading about narcissism and abuse I got my confidence back, because I knew it wasn't me. I'm not depressed now colors look bright again but I have burnout I don't want to do dishes or housework or anything and I think again it's because I'm living with a narcissist. My self-care isn't that great lately either but I'm working on it. God bless everyone!

[@butthead_eats8297]

I’m so thankful I stumbled upon her channel, I really appreciate all the information that is provided for us!

[@lifewithjess4381]

I really appreciate this video - it makes me feel understood and heard.

[@franismakingasandwich460]

it’s strange because due to a recent life event, i feel like prior to it I had burnout that has now spiralled into low-level depression. But it’s probably best to consult a doctor irl than self-diagnose, thank you for the helpful comparisons!

[@kiathadiva7]

I was experiencing burnout until recently .... I WAS FIRED !!!!! But my soul is at peace with it ... I was giving so much to my company ... waited 2 years for a raise and only got .19 cents for a annual raise is straight up DISGUSTING!!! I hated going there every morning... I would simply be on autopilot... I didn't feel present at all.... I did feel depressed when I was there ... I looked forward to the weekend... but that happiness was short lived because on Sunday I dreaded working on Monday.... it's crazy how you give so much to these companies and they only give you pennies... I'm tired of letting someone dictate my self worth.... I was fired for being late because i hated coming there... when I say late I would be there like 10 to 15 min late... lol .. the office didn't have any windows ... the sky could've been falling and u would known it ... the environment felt like it was sucking my soul .... the work wasn't fulfilling at all... the hardest part is reprogramming your brain.... I keep telling myself ... my self worth is not tied to that company... I was never going to be there long enough to retire anyways .... so move on an be seek happiness with a different company.... it just feels crappy because I didn't do it on my own terms ... but that's ok .... life moves on ... wish me luck on finding my next job 😁✌🏾

[@michellemaree1928]

Ahh!!!! This is exactly what I’m experiencing. Thank you for this video!!

[@jannygonzalez8]

Wow. This was just the video I was looking for. Thank you for this content!

[@underwaterchippie]

What a clear and brilliant explanation! Thank you!

[@tamekadavis544]

I have had both at the same time. Trying to take care of my daughter who has paranoid schizophrenia and bpd just took a major toll on me. She had to go live with her father because I was days from checking myself into the hospital because I couldn't help her or myself. It was so much to deal with. As soon as she left, my chest pains went away. I felt relief but shame at the same time.

[@Mexicochann]

I was in nearly this same situation with my daughter. Don't beat yourself up. You can only do what you can do.

[@ejw1234]

Stress from not being able to resolve your child's issues and the worry that you're failing them has to be up there with life's greatest stressors. That will drain your battery to nothing to the point that nothing can charge it back up.

[@v.m.4453]

I'm so grateful for this channel. Thank you

[@jasmynsreality]

This was amazing and explained everything I have been going through. Burnout is real, you could not have said it any better. Thank you so much.

[@mamabear8641]

So far this is the best description I have found. Thank you. Love that temperament was included! Very useful. Thank you.

[@simonegordon8705]

Really helpful differentiation. This video has helped me a lot on a personal level. Thank you Dr. Marks!

[@DiegoLearnsSpanish]

Your videos are truly life changing!

[@JacobPatrick1]

I've watched a few videos in a row on the subject and it's extremely clear when someone KNOWS what they're talking about! This is the best video so far.

[@joe-yuugen]

Hello Dr. Marks, physician to physician, I commend and appreciate you deeply. You are a beacon of hope for many of us and our patients. Keep up your inspired work. You are helping us all

[@BrenPrentice]

Thank you, Dr. Marks. This has helped me tremendously.

[@SigHellion]

Thank you for this, Dr. A great topic and explanation - with some great self care solutions. 🙏🏻

[@notsogreysanatomy]

THE SELF HELP NOTES REALLY HELPED

[@cassieshoemaker4733]

This video made me realize I was struggling with depression this winter...but now I'm primarily struggling with burnout.

[@michelleroberts2809]

Whenever I drop in on one of your videos, I am so comforted. Thank you for sharing such valuable and helpful information

[@janebrowne8589]

Brilliant video. My husband and I were nodding all the way through - thank you 😊

[@rockgrlx]

Oof. Thank you for this video. I didn’t know whether I was depressed or just burned out, but it definitely sounds like burnout to me. I still enjoy all the other things in my life like traveling and hanging out with friends. I can totally relate to looking forward to the weekends and then the dread that sets in on Sunday nights... thank you for this.

[@jooyoungchoi2952]

Oh my gosh, your comparison between burnout and depression just gave me this moment of clarity :) ❤️❤️❤️

[@betsyclarke1286]

Thank you for explaining the difference between the two.

[@SarahJonestoo]

This is super. Thank you very much for your professional and forensic coverage of these issues.

[@nikitran9332]

Thank you this video saved me today. Thank you for giving out this content for free. I bet it helps many people.

[@joeblow9657]

This video described so much of what I experienced in undergrad and grad school. I went to a local school and I was never a good fit but I always felt so frustrated but after classes were done, I'd feel ok, not great but just fine. This explains so much. Thank you

[@oliveryoung2260]

I’m very glad I found this video, I’ve been in the college app process for a few months now and I genuinely thought I was depressed. Glad to know

[@stephaniewright5424]

I only discovered your channel in the last 24 hours. And when I say that you’ve specifically answered at least 5 fringe-topic questions I’ve had about my depression/anxiety/adhd lately (as well as burnout vs. all of those) I am not exaggerating. You’ve really quieted and grounded some of those flyaway fear-based questions that make me confuse which symptoms are part of which problem.

[@Neenja7]

From what I gathered from your videos, I definitely have burnout (I'm a CPS social worker) and experience anxiety/panic attacks related to the burnout. I plan to incorporate exercise to help alleviate some of my symptoms, as well as other tips you mentioned. Praying for relief. Thanks for your videos Dr. Marks.

[@jennamanninen6680]

I feel like crying when you presented the situation that company gives a week vacation without work piling up. I burned out really bad and got a week off on doctors notice. My work was piling up the hole week, I got phone calls from work that when I'm coing back to work and wasn't really "relaxed" after a week when facing work amount that had been piling whole week. And now I'm depressed. Gladly, I got myself a new job and be starting next month. I hope this time it's a place that I have a possibility of keepin my shit together.

[@MarioLopez-kx8gs]

I love how straightforward you are

[@leeboriack8054]

Dr. M., you look great and your rocking it! Many thanks for your vital videos. Love and light from Dallas, TX.

[@maryhaucke-davis6695]

Thank you for this video. I am a teacher and have thus far survived the stress of the pandemic, but it has taken a toll on me and my colleagues. Administration wants more and more, parents demand and sometimes it feels like no matter how engaging and interesting I make a lesson, it’s met with disengagement on the part of the students. They’ve had it rough too! Your information helps me understand that I’m not depressed, just BURNED OUT! I’m definitely going to use some of your tips to help me get through the next three years (until I retire!) and find some pleasure in my work again.

[@travelocationfilms3020]

6:04 did exactly that. I changed the environment after working at specific program for 7 years. Went ahead and made the change, burnout dissolved within a few weeks. Great presentation Dr. Marks.

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Oh awesome. That's great to hear. it takes a lot to make those kind of changes but it sure is worth it in the end.

[@Roanmonster]

Thanks so much for this video Dr. Marks, I had just been worrying that I might be going into depression but I feel like I'll get better soon when my off days start in a few days. That's a comforting thought. Have a great day!

[@gridiish]

Btw I am thankful for this woman Doing her best to help. Thank you

[@roar6047]

I'm no longer productive at work. It takes me so much time to do even the smallest thing. I don't care anymore. I don't care. I just want to stop the suicidal ideation and take time to improve my health.

[@tanishasethi7363]

SAMEEEEEEE

[@Therapycable]

Great topic and you covered it well, Dr. Tracey! We just discovered your channel and love your work!

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Thank you therapy cable. I appreciate that

[@Therapycable]

@@DrTraceyMarks Absolutely! We need more professionals like you on this platform creating helpful resources!

[@hihellobianca4360]

the fact that this was recommended to me during midterms- I needed this thank you

[@dr.j9201]

Thank you Dr. Marks. Incredibly helpful. I am going to link this to one of the section in my class on secondary trauma for students to review. It is so clear and helpful they will benefit from it. Thank you for the outstanding work!

[@practicalguidetolife6982]

What a wonderful video! It’s so important to know this difference! An over the top burn out can really lead to depression. It’s so important to be able to take that hard look at your job!

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Yes it is Val. Thanks for commenting.

[@DiscoTimelordASD]

Carer burnout - caring for a loved one like a child is a double hit.

[@chineloelizabeth6619]

Thank you Dr Tracey, this was helpful and very apt, as I can tell for a fact what I have been experiencing for weeks now. I appreciate that you also suggested solutions to better handle Burnout

[@alyonabondarenko4370]

I just discovered your video! And let me tell you that this is exactly what I needed. I've been thinking I'm having depression for a couple of months but now I know I'm for sure burnt out! My old job was extremely stressful to work in and I finally quit! I'm doing better now but on the road of recovery. I'm still having so many questions about myself and why I act and feel the way I do, but I'm so happy I got at least one of my questions answered. Thank you for making these videos!

[@coleburton3]

There is a lot of truth here. I had a family member who was deeply, deeply depressed and his best friend brought him on a spontaneous trip to Hawaii to try to help him feel better. He could not enjoy it at all, even though his non-depressed self would have loved it. I'm glad I found this video because I can see that I definitely have periods of burn-out due to being the mom to several special needs kids. I experience exactly what she is talking about here, and I've always been worried that I was entering depression during these times.

[@eseesa]

Hawaii! I was there on a holiday a long time ago but was suffering from depression and anxiety that I swam in the sea to cry so that nobody would see. Urgh I definitely won't go on a holiday in the future when feeling depressed!

[@BuxomBunny13]

This was the perfect video to recommend to me as a full-time graduate student and working full-time 😭

[@andreajuarez7109]

I’m on the same boat! Sometimes I feel like I have no life. I just keep reminding myself that once I graduate I will be grateful and will have more time for my hobbies and creative projects. I’ve been trying to take it one day at a time. I wish you success and send you light and love! We’ll nail it!

[@BuxomBunny13]

@@andreajuarez7109 thank you! I truly appreciate the encouragement! I wish you continued success in your endeavors as well 🙏🏾

[@ziarchiveofficial]

I am just thankful Dr. Marks that you made videos such as these. I sure am suffering from something. I feel like I am losing it everytime I am in distress. My doctor said I am having anxiety so I am happy I was able to watch your videos.

[@kellyjoyce748]

I think you are an excellent speaker and really enjoy listening to you.

[@politereminder6284]

I have watched this so many times. I'm suffering from burnout.

[@DrTraceyMarks]

I hope you get a chance to press pause and rejuvenate

[@politereminder6284]

@@DrTraceyMarks Thank you! 😊

[@politereminder6284]

@@DrTraceyMarks since this comment, I did take a break. My workplace is not asking me to to go in because of the pandemic. Therefore, I went back to school to study for a Music Degree. It is difficult, but it makes me extremely happy. I also moved to a slower town and reduced my rental costs.

[@DrTraceyMarks]

@@politereminder6284 Oh that's awesome that you're happy! Thanks for the update 👍🏽😀

[@cheacatt1383]

Thank you.... this clears things up for me. I’m not depressed , I’m definitely burnt out,

[@thenebraskan7661]

Thanks 😊 for the awesome videos Dr.Marks. When I watch you I always feel less I am back in a classroom You are so awesome.

[@kari818]

I'm really glad this popped up in my feed today.

[@mr.workhardplayhard6550]

You speak very well. I have been burned out now for almost two years with my high stress/high paying job. I feel ok when I'm off but the dread and depression quickly sets in just thinking about my return to work. The environment in my work place is very negative, moral is very low. And that's the total opposite of how I am and try to be. My salary is very good, I have 10 years in now with a good amount of vacation time and decent benefits. That makes me scared to leave. I have a family of 5 and I constantly weigh my options for leaving. In the end I keep coming in doing just enough to stay off the radar. I feel unfulfilled and I hate myself for now doing something about it. I just dont know how. Thanks for letting me vent here

[@dude4173]

Hang in there. I’m in the same boat except no family. 11 years at same company, great salary and benefits - I cracked up hard when she said ‘imagine yourself working here in 5 years’. Never gonna happen Good luck!.. I

[@meme-hz1mq]

sounds like me minus the family of 5 and it hasn't been 10 years there

[@MrsYoung-in9ov]

How’s it going?

[@mr.workhardplayhard6550]

@@MrsYoung-in9ov I ended up taking another position within the company last July which did help some. A change of pace and scenery if nothing else has been good but the overall outlook is basically the same for the entire company. I hope you all are doing well and having a good 4th of July weekend

[@ejw1234]

Yep, lots of folks in your situation. It gets really hard when you're supporting a family. The feeling of being sunk and hopeless is real. There has to be a better way NOT to isolate and suffer. Probably best to find a Facebook group or something. All the best to you. You're not alone.

[@BKLNHobo]

Thank you for this. I was starting to feel crippling burnout earlier in the year (a mix of a long commute and a toxic and isolated office environment) to the point where I would consistently oversleep, and feel like I had to physically drag myself to work each day. I was trying to figure out how to address it with my employer by advocating for a partial remote schedule when the pandemic hit. Once allowed to work from home full-time due to the shelter-in-place mandates, my overall mood and attitude to my work improved significantly. Now forced to return to the office, my anxiety levels are suddenly back up, and I'm having mood swings, episodes of sleepless and diarrhea, plus brain fog on the days I have to go in. It's becoming pretty clear that a minor adjustment in my schedule isn't going to fix this, and I need to find a long-term solution in the form another job.

[@ejw1234]

Have you tried other things to cope until you find a solution? Clean up your place, declutter, eat super healthy with quality protein and health fat, exercise, red light therapy, ashwagandha, St. John's Wort, dial back coffee, early AM light, grounding, meditation, and some stretching or yoga. I always try to get to the next promontory to gain clarity. Sometimes that does it. In other situations, it hasn't and required big changes.

[@BKLNHobo]

@@ejw1234 Thankfully I found a new job and was able to quit. It offers a much better environment a much better commute and a more flexible schedule that is mostly WFH.

[@olgadoherty2033]

This was very helpful, clear and concise, not like most of the content on this issue out there. Thank you!

[@1dfulbenjamin434]

Thank you for this clear and detailed explanation. This was informative.

[@harpertatman]

I’ve experienced all this, and initially tried anti depressants to cope with remaining in my career, but the side effects made things even worse, such as a lot of weight gain and high blood pressure. I found that I was still anxious and depressed because the root of the problem wasn’t gone. After getting therapy for 3 years and still suffering, I started Transcendental Meditation which has finally stopped my panic attack that has been ongoing for years. Practicing saying “whatever it doesn’t matter” to intrusive thoughts for 40 minutes each day helps to train the brain to let go of upsetting thoughts the rest of the time. Medication is a band aid and not a solution. If you want to improve depression and anxiety for real, you have to make actual life changes as you say in the video. I appreciate talking therapy and cbt still, but it never really addressed my fight or flight response until I started practicing TM. Thank you 😊

[@GoogleAccount00]

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[@meme5976]

Thank you so much, this absolutely my problem!

[@anniephilip7504]

meme5976 my problem too.

[@DrTraceyMarks]

You're so welcome!

[@deemoy2967]

OMG, Thank you so much for this. I seriously felt that there was something wrong with me. This is some needed perspective and I am glad I found this video.

[@karenhartman9774]

What a helpful video! I now know exactly where I am on that continuum. I am a caregiver and I’ve had back to back narcissistic clients using me for supply for the last year and a half. I really need a different kind of work that uses more of my skills and talents and I’m going to find it. The clarity gained from watching this has energized me to make this change. Again, many thanks 🙏🏼❣️