Burton Custom Camber 2023 Review vs. Custom X & Territory Manager

[@sunvanchavaska2489]

Dude!!! Been looking up snowboard reviews on KZbin since 2008 and I am so stoked to come here in 2022 and find a review of this depth and caliber! It's about time the snowboarding community gets something more than the generic 1 minute overviews by retailers. you're awesome, keep up the great work!

[@thegoodridesnow]

Many thanks! You made my day. Check our site too. There are 700+ snowboard reviews and we have a lot more info there as well. Cheers!

[@hiimjonpaul]

@@thegoodridesnow For sure - so much value. Just really good actual content about the boards. These review videos are great

[@thedude5510]

Love the board comparison vids! You're the only reviewer to do that. Keep it up!🤘

[@thegoodridesnow]

Many thanks!

[@alwaysgosnowboarding]

Loved this. And thank you for leaving comments on! I think it adds a lot of value to your community, to encourage more discussion and feedback. Much lovee!

[@thegoodridesnow]

Many thanks!

Man, thank you for all the detail. It's great to get so much information on how the boards feel and how they're different. Helps a lot when choosing one.

[@thegoodridesnow]

Thanks for taking the time to write this. Much appreciated.

[@themaven1276]

Damn I have a 2022 Custom...kinda wish I waited for this one. It looks so much better

[@skylerb7103]

I’m late to this review but it by far the best snowboard review I’ve ever watched! Keep it up dude! I’m subscribing now!

[@thegoodridesnow]

Many thanks!

[@jwlbrace]

Another great review James, thank you. I'm switching out a Custom Camber 162w for a 166w this season... it's an school board, best stick with old school board lengths

[@thegoodridesnow]

Many thanks and have a good season.

[@nawtynick9]

Great Review. Lots of detail.

[@thegoodridesnow]

Many thanks!

[@razvanradu5154]

Man you should pay for some adds to get the channel booming . It’s a shame you don’t have more subscribers of course because of the super quality vids

[@thegoodridesnow]

Thanks! Luckily I have thegoodride.com/ also and hope this relatively new YT Channel grows organically like the site did.

[@darryl_young]

Great video. Thanks for sharing.

[@thegoodridesnow]

Thanks for watching!

[@user-db6ov7nn4x]

love the territory manager name lol

[@yiqiangan7198]

Thanks for the in-depth review. love how you do reviews like engineering projects. what is your one board recommendation for all mnt if you could choose any board and any brand?

[@thegoodridesnow]

Many thanks! That is a question I just can't answer. It's like saying which kid of yours would you keep if you could only keep one. Our favorite all mountain boards thegoodride.com/snowboard-reviews/?mens=1&favorites=1 all shine in different ways. I think it would be best for you to go to our soon to be paid advice section and submit your question here. It's the best way to get real In depth advice from me (Biesty/Editor) on the best all mountain board for you. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/

[@floz9718]

Finally someone who agrees (somewhat) with me... I still can't understand why the Custom is so popular, to me it's just an inferior version of the custom X - at least since the design overhaul. Two seasons back, I bought a Custom 156 to complement my Custom X, I wanted a second board that's just a touch more forgiving and the Custom promised to provide exactly that. I quite liked it the one day I rode it but as soon as I straped onto my Custom X at the end of the day to compare it against, I immediately noticed how much better the Custom X was, the Custom felt like a plank in comparison. The CX feels way more lively and light so it's much easier to engage turns (not to mention if you like messing around or do park riding). And here's the kicker: the Custom even feels stiffer! So it's much slower turning, it almost feels sluggish/plankish but it's still feels stiffer longitudely and torisionally (not really stiffer but slower to engage). Also, the Custom X does feel noticeably lighter! I weighted both and in absolute measures it's not a world of a difference but man on snow it is definately noticeable! Not only when doing ollies and spins but also when engaging the board into a turn - it just feels easier to handle (for reference I'm about 78kg/172 lbs). The only positive I could attest the Custom is that it felt a bit more damp. So all in all the Custom X ist just a better verison of the Custom and everyone considering getting a Custom should get a Custom X in my eyes! It's a great board for riding groomers and I use it on most days I even bought a second one in 158. if someone is intersted, I wrote a more extensive review/comparison in this thread: www.snowboardingforum.com/threads/burton-custom-x-review.262095/#post-3367313immediately

[@thegoodridesnow]

Thanks for sharing your perspective.

[@timhunt7155]

I’ve had great fun on the 2023 custom x wide this season. It’s my early morning groomer board and also freeride when it’s not light powder, it actually is a great all mountain freeride freestyle ride that needs a bit of taming but rewards you and makes you a better rider. Essential in the quiver. Although I think I preferred the specs 2017.

[@thegoodridesnow]

Glad you liked it Tim. Cheers!

[@timhunt7155]

@@thegoodridesnow my fave so far this year is k2 excavator 54. Def worth a try

[@thegoodridesnow]

@@timhunt7155 One of our highlights from last seasons tests as well. Review coming but it will be a bit before I get to it.

[@timhunt7155]

@@thegoodridesnow how did you find in deep powder If you got any?

[@jamesbiesty260]

@@timhunt7155 I didnt get super deep but pretty decent pow. Not excellent like a dedicated pow ride but up there for sure.

[@seanmacdonald8476]

Thanks for the review, second season in a row I'm looking at my board thinking I made a huge mistake. I rode a 2006 custom 154 bought new until 2021 when I decided to give it away for free and buy a home town hero, what a mistake! I sized it wrong and ended up selling and buying into a 2022 warpig last year. Here I am again just nostalgic about my custom looking for that same magic only to find I should maybe be looking back into the family tree. Hmm My only real complaint with the '06 board was that it took all 125 lbs of me to throw around at the end of the day it was a heavy beast. Maybe something like the terrirtory manager (out of stock ugh) will give me back that dose of camber I want without some of the draw backs you mentioned of the custom. I'm mostly in the trees physically, figuratively, physcologically and philisophically when it comes to these boards so appreciate your vids and thoughts. Cheers!

[@thegoodridesnow]

Thanks. What is your boot size and height? What size HTH did you get?

[@seanmacdonald8476]

@@thegoodridesnow 5'6" and 10.5 boot, got the 148 HTH don't laugh haha Now with the 151 Warpig just not feeling confident in my turns

[@berkan54]

Such an amazing review man amazing as always! How would you compare the custom with flight attendant for carving the groomers ?

[@thegoodridesnow]

Thanks! Both are exceptional carvers. Flight Attendant is stiffer but the Custom has a little more camber. So it comes down to personal preference and other factors like if you need a board to float better in pow. If so go Flight Attendant. It's much better in pow.

[@berkan54]

@@thegoodridesnow love it, thank you so much!

[@DustinPerkins-ne8ui]

Can’t decide between the Burton Custom and Capita indoor survival 😅 I don’t care to butter, really only like carving at speed, riding switch, hitting side hits, and jumping small jumps. Which fits the bill better ?

[@thegoodridesnow]

Knowing so little about you it's hard to say. Go Custom if you want something damper in uneven snow and better for carving. The IS is better riding switch. If you want to get into it more hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/

[@ErickNS1]

My 2.5 year old grand daughter absolutely loves this ! She could stay on very well and had fun

[@BG-zg9rc]

Thanks for the review. I'm torn now on what to get. I'm 5'8/185lb 9 boot. I typically ride in Tahoe, and have been eyeballing the 22-23 Custom X 158 (waiting on stock to be replenished.) I'd say I'm an intermediate trying to take things to the next level on non-tree runs. I'm using a Burton Easy Living 158 right now, with some equally as old BOA Salomon boots. I'm also looking to upgrade bindings and boots and am looking at the ION StepOn's and X Re:Flex bindings. Given this is a big all encompassing (hopefully) upgrade, I am trying to make sure I make the most educated decision. Which board would you recommend? Any input on the boots/bindings?

[@thegoodridesnow]

The Ion SO/SO combo sounds good but you could easily go with Photon's too. You might be happier with something else that can float easier for Tahoe Riding. The CX is one of the last boards I would like to be on in deep Tahoe Pow. If you are only about Burton go Flight Attendant 159 or Hometown Hero 156 instead. Or hit me up here if you want much more accurate, in depth advice. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/

[@ryanboucher5403]

Really glad I stumbled upon your videos. Your reviews are awesome. I am deciding between the custom and custom X. I am a pretty aggressive big mountain/all mountain rider. I drop a lot of cliffs, lots of high speed and aggressive riding. My home resorts are in the Tahoe basin. Do you think the custom or custom x would be a better fit? Or possible another option?

[@thegoodridesnow]

Many thanks! Hard to say with knowing so little about you. If you are riding clean conditions and not all day maybe Custom X. If you see more uneven terrain/ride all day/on weekends go Custom or possibly the Flight Attendant or Hometown Hero if you want better float in the deep deep you get down south. Really don't know though because I know none of the key info to really help. If you want to get into it more and do this right, hit me here shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/

[@mackmc]

Thanks for the comparison! Still unsure what size I should go for (debating between 158 and 162). I'm 5'9, 190 lbs, size 10 boots, pretty solid build (workout daily) and ride pretty aggressively on a smaller resort hill. Riding mostly groomers, rarely park, getting into switch more, and I mainly ride for the aggressive carving (typically long drawn out but would like to mix in short ones as well). Any advice would be much appreciated!

[@thegoodridesnow]

Tough call. I would go 158 Custom Camber if you are throwing it around switch and making tighter radius turns and across the groomer to circle carves. That being said the 162 will carve harder and more drawn out better. You might just find the 162 a bit too much as the day goes on though.

[@mackmc]

​@@thegoodridesnow Thank so much for the reply! I should specify, I think I'll go with the Custom X camber, does this change your answer? I believe you found that the 158 might be better for someone lighter? I'm currently weighing 190 but sturdy with daily exercise. Thanks for your help! :)

[@jmin0511]

Hi there, I had a question regarding snowboard size. I'm 5'7" and I'm generally 150-160 pounds. I previously had a rocker snowboard and did not like it so much because it didn't feel stable. Now I'm looking for a camber snowboard and primarily ride all mountain. I've narrowed my choices down and the sizes available are 153, 154, and 156. Do you have any suggestions on what would suit me the best? Thank you so much!

[@thegoodridesnow]

You know I need more info from you if you want proper help. Hit me up here thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/. If you just want advice here I need at least your boot size before making a recommendation.

[@jmin0511]

@@thegoodridesnow Oh okay, thank you so much!

[@blindfoldproductions7083]

Haven't bought a new board in 15 years, and eyeing the 2024 custom as my first choice. I'd say I'm intermediate/advanced leaning advanced, and am looking for an all mountain board for groomers and off trail. Would you recommend something above the custom? I was also eyeing hometown hero. Excellent review by the way, thanks!

[@thegoodridesnow]

Thanks! You should really hit me up here. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/ I need a lot more info from you to properly help and not sure this is the right board for you.

[@carsonalten8856]

So you need burton bindings with these boards? I got the custom but didn’t consider the bindings would be different

[@thegoodridesnow]

No you don't need Burton Bindings. Most bindings now have discs that are compatible with the Burton Channel System. And if you buy Burton Bindings best to buy Re:Flex and not EST. That way you can use them on non-Channel System boards.

[@mikeuptegrove]

Why’d you size up from the custom to custom X? Wouldn’t you want to downsize to compensate for the extra stiffness in the X?

[@thegoodridesnow]

Its lighter and more chattery/less fun in uneven snow. So sizing up makes it less chattery but it's still more than the Custom.

[@mikeuptegrove]

@@thegoodridesnow more chattery than the regular custom? But if it’s stiffer and you size up doesn’t it make it harder to control because of the stiffness? You think it’s lighter weight is what’s for sure making it chattery and not it’s rigidly from the extra carbon? I ride a 156 regular custom and you think the x should be sized up? Thanks.

[@thegoodridesnow]

Yes, it's more chattery than the Custom. It's most likely a combination of carbon, the lighter core, and the thin top sheet. I've ridden many boards with lots of carbon and lighter cores that also have rubber, urethane, thicker top sheets, or even metal in the core to dampen the ride/reduce chatter. I know nothing about you, so it's hard to say if you should size up. I'd at least need your boot size, height, and weight to suggest a size. If you want to do this right and really get into it, hit me here to give me all the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/

[@tau_tv]

i want a new board. been riding since early 2000s, but i'm old now, and just looking to have fun on the mountain. mainly east coast groomers. a few small jumps here and there with my bad knees. maybe learn some ground tricks other than a regular butter. in the park i'd probably get on a box at the most. i ride a never summer proto ct from ... 2011. looking at the burton custom camber, capita mercury, never summer proto synthesis, or triple camber easy rider. i just want something fun.

[@thegoodridesnow]

Proto CT was a fun ride and it's closest peer these days is the Proto Synthesis. I'd love to help but I'd just be making wild guesses with the info I have at hand. Hit me up here if you proper advice. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/

[@3m1lw1k2]

Can you try the nitro team and nitro suprateam this winter?

[@thegoodridesnow]

I'll for sure try.

[@felipe2fp]

what are the good competitors full camber that holds well on ice?

[@thegoodridesnow]

Slash ATV is a good competitor. So is the Arbor Wasteland Camber with no lift in the sides. Nitro Alternator (review coming) is great too. There are many Lib and Gnu boards with only a passive bent in the middle and camber from tip to tail with little to no early rise like the E-Jack, Dynamo, Antigravity, Banked Country and others. They have the same full camber feel. If you want to get into it more hit me here so I can find out more about you and make better recommendations. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/

[@TRIKushbeachside]

I’m an int bordering on adv rider, living in FL it’s really tricky to get a lot of runs in lol. I was on a 57 pure pop process for a couple weeks last season and enjoyed it but found it to be just a tiny bit washy when I was pushing hard or jacket flapping pushing 60 mph etc.. would a 58 custom camber be a good choice? Just looking for something with a little bit more hold with the same if not more pop. Just curious if the custom camber would be much less forgiving or just a small loss in forgiveness. I didn’t find the process difficult to ride but I had a few moments where I felt like the board was going to wash out in sketchy spots. Would love a board that I can still jump around on but have that hold and response when bombing groomers

[@thegoodridesnow]

I'm not sure if the Custom is the way to go. It is pretty light and poppy. What is your weight, boot size and height? Or just hit me here and I'll help you properly. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/

[@chazladthebossgaming7488]

You probably wont see this comment, your reviews are amazing, they give the most detail and you cover so many different items. Im just wondering if i move my bindings along the channel on the custom camber so that they are center and dont have any set back , so i can ride switch the same(for park riding), will it effect how it turns/rides just generally all around the mountain (except for the fact that the nose will be shorter and tail will be longer than used to)?, im new to setting up boards so i dont really know how this works.

[@thegoodridesnow]

Many thanks! So I have to do a video on this but if you want to center your bindings on the board move it up 12.5mm up from the reference stance marker. Then you have a board centered on sidecut. You don't want to center it on board because the nose is longer than the tail so you will actually be forward on sidecut which isn't ideal. Make sense?

[@chazladtheboss9606]

@@thegoodridesnow what will a board thats forward on sidecut change when riding

[@thegoodridesnow]

You mean past being centered on sidecut? It will not ride as well and it's not recommended. With the Custom Camber I would suggest riding it close to reference stance for groomers and set back as far as you can for powder. You can ride it 12.5mm up from reference but don't go any further.

[@chazladtheboss9606]

@@thegoodridesnow so if I want to ride park/switch I should just keep it reference? Or move the stance 12.5mm up so the nose and tail are same length? Like is it better just to ride switch with a bit of a longer tail then to move the bindings 12.5mm up? Sorry to bother you with all these questions, I really appreciate your quick responses.

[@thegoodridesnow]

Keep it on reference or 12.5mm forward from Reference if you want to ride switch. The nose and tail will not be the same length and don't try to center the bindings in the middle of the board. The nose is longer than the tail so if you try to center your bindings on the board you will be too far forward on the sidecut and it will ride weird. There is a big difference between being centered on sidecut and centered on the board. For riding switch on a directional board like this it helps to be centered on sidecut. Just use the "REF" marker on the channel.

[@Andrew392]

What is the blue jacket you’re wearing? Love that colour

[@thegoodridesnow]

Thanks. Me too. The 2022 Burton 3L Gore-Tex Treeline jkt.

[@andreybrodetskyy9106]

Hi. My height is 182 cm, weighs 85 kg, Boots size (Salomon) is 43.5. I mostly ride the slope. I need a carving board and, to a lesser extent, to ride near a slope in fresh snow. Would I like a Burton Custom X with a length of 162 cm? Thanks.

[@thegoodridesnow]

I think so but not sure based on the info given. Hit me up here if you want to know for sure because I need to know a lot more about you. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/

[@sulleysaad3266]

I currently have a 2008 burton custom and looking to upgrade to the 2022/23 custom (camber) however they are sold out and cant find any in my size. I’m 5’10, 165 and size 8 boots. Do you recommend getting the custom X since it’s the only one currently available in the custom series? I’ve been riding on and off since 1997 but I don’t like doing jumps and park rails and all those tricks getting old for that 😅 I like to carve hard and fast! Appreciate your advise !

[@thegoodridesnow]

You could go Custom X 156 if this board calls to you. It won't be as damp but it will be more poppy. If you want to do this properly hit me up here. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/

[@petemakrygiannis7892]

What are those bindings in the background?

[@thegoodridesnow]

Union Atlas. Mentioned in Timecode 1:23

[@ryanevans604]

5'7 194 lbs in shape expert rider all mountain 20% park whistler/blackcomb size 9 boot

[@thegoodridesnow]

Yeah this could work in a 156 for you. Is that your question?

[@snowboardingdude117]

A little late to ask, but I'm 6'3, 175lbs and a size 11 boot. I got my eye on a 158W, think that will do the trick?

[@snowboardingdude117]

Also, I tend to favor the fast laps and all mountain free ride and I tend to push my boards pretty hard so I'm wondering if the 162 would work better? Any info is greatly appreciated!

[@thegoodridesnow]

I think 162w would be the better call for your specs and your riding style. 158w will work but you might not like it if you go that small if you push your boards pretty hard.

[@snowboardingdude117]

@@thegoodridesnow Wow, absolutely love the incredibly fast response! Just snagged the 162W, should be a fun season.

[@SwiftNap]

Hey, first time watcher and I gotta say your video style is truly excellent. Thank you for your effort. I’m 6’0, 175 and size 11 boot, looking at getting a burton. I most recently rode a Kemper freestyle 161 (flat? I think) camber, which felt really good. Previous board I rented was a 155, and I felt like that was a bit small and sketchy. I feel like 158W is where I’m headed, since everyone seems to say 162 is too big for people around my size, and the 158 might be too narrow for an 11 boot? Or do you think 162 is manageable? Sorry for the post length lol thank you so much, just subscribed :)

[@thegoodridesnow]

Thanks! The 162 isn't wide enough for 11's. If you want to do this properly it is best to hit me up here so I can know much more about you before I help. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/ . If you just want to know about Custom sizing I would say 158w is a good fit if you are more of an advanced to expert rider who understands camber.

[@Vsh__]

Hello! For someone 5'7'' at 130-140 lbs with a size 9.5 vans invader pro boot would a 154 be fine? It is the size I ordered as I find my current 149 board too small.

[@thegoodridesnow]

Yes that should work fine.

[@JARuiz22875]

Hey TGR Ive heard nothing but good stuff about the x but now I think I messed up my order arriving today…I’m 5’6 180lbs 8.5 boot intermediate riding in local NY NJ Park and ordered the custom x 150

[@thegoodridesnow]

Ah shit! Not sure how I missed this. Yeah 150 is a little small and could feel pretty chattery for you weight. 154 is better.

[@szaret1]

Im interested in the custom. Could you tell me if its a true twin between the contact points? Im getting conflicting answers from shops ive called. I understand the nose is longer and the reference stance is set back .5 an inch. If i were to move my bindings up .5 an inch would it be a twin in every aspect except the nose being longer?

[@thegoodridesnow]

It has a what they call a twin flex but has a directional sidecut and shape. So not what you call a directional twin. It will not feel like a true twin or even a directional twin centered on sidecut. That being said it does ride switch pretty well.

[@szaret1]

@@thegoodridesnow dang….I’ve reached out to Burton a number of times, called a few of their flagship stores, and have gotten different responses from every one lol. How confident are you that the side cut is directional?

[@thegoodridesnow]

Very. I've ridden this board in various designs for almost 20 yrs. Its been twinish to pretty directional but never a directional twin. Look carefully at the sidecut of the Custom and then the Process, Name Dropper and Free Thinker. You can see the sidecut has a slightly more shallow entry near the nose and a deeper exit near the tail. I would say its more twinish these days which is very close to a directional twin. Don't get too hung up on that though. Again, it rides switch very well. If it calls to you give it a go or hit me up here if you want advice. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/

[@szaret1]

@@thegoodridesnow hey man thank you for the responses. I already have the board though. I was told it was twin between the contact points by someone I trusted. I ride like 48% switch so I need a twin. Might look into getting the side cut tuned to be equal haha. Happy new year 🙌

[@thegoodridesnow]

No prob. Please don't do that. You will probably ruin the board. If u want a twin just return it.

[@Corythehausbaus]

Hey dude I live on the east coast, icy groomers, is this a good traditional camber board that will help me focus on carving ?

[@thegoodridesnow]

Yeah it carves hard in good conditions. I have found the Custom X to not hold an edge as well as some rides out there though. So have many of my crew over the years. For east coast carving look at the Gnu Gremlin, Gnu Banked Country, Lib Tech Ejack Knife, Yes Hybrid, Yes Optimistic and Yes Standard Uninc.

[@Corythehausbaus]

​@@thegoodridesnow what about the lib tech dynamo ? I am debating between magne traction vs just traditional camber... hard choice

[@thegoodridesnow]

Yeah that could for sure work too. Not as disrupted a sidecut as the boards I suggested above (has mellow mag) but still more grippy than the Custom X. The Dynamo is actually full camber with only a passive bend in the middle that doesn't touch the snow. It feels like full camber. So you are comparing pretty much full camber and MTX vs. Traditional Camber.

[@Corythehausbaus]

@@thegoodridesnow i really wanna focus on learning euro carve and reverse euro carve, if this is the case, what would you number 1 suggest be. What do you mean by disrupted a sidecut? how does that affect my riding ?

[@Corythehausbaus]

@@thegoodridesnow i subbed and liked your videos!!!!!

[@davidaslani9934]

What size do you recomment at a hight of 185cm and 80kg (Burton custom) Maybe a 162 or 158

[@darryl_young]

I'm exactly the same, and I just ordered a 158W Custom from my local Burton store. From past experience (owning and renting), and advice from the guy in the store, the 158W seems like the perfect fit for me (and my EU size 11 feet).

[@thegoodridesnow]

David Aslani- What size boot are you?

[@petarpetronijevic8734]

Does anybody have experience of pairing this bord with Clew bindings?

[@thegoodridesnow]

I paired Clews with the Burton Deep thinker and it rode fine. It should turn the Custom easily. Only concern is the bottom of the clew is all hard plastic so it could dammage ur topsheet over time but that is the same for most boards.

[@petarpetronijevic8734]

Thank you very much for the reply :D@@thegoodridesnow

[@alfredoventura4727]

I got the custom camber but on my heel edge I'm having trouble holding on firm terrain 😢

[@thegoodridesnow]

The edge hold of the Custom Camber isn't as good as some boards these days with very disrupted sidecuts but if it's only on your heel side that is something on your end. It might not be centered correctly, your highback might not be rotated or your turning technique heel side might need some work.

[@alfredoventura4727]

@thegoodridesnow bindings are centered, and the highback are rotated. I riding a k2 standard 155 with rocker profile.

[@pjk-rips]

Sharpen contact point edges. They are probably factory detuned but you'll get more grip by sharpening them. Just yesterday rode on really hard pack with my Custom and edge hold was just fine.

[@thegoodridesnow]

Great to hear that works for ya. I have and it helps but then gets more catchy and still isnt there with many disrupted sidecuts. I had a friend who tunes boards full time. We did an in depth tuning test with Burton vs Lib & Gnu over several days. Burton always had less grip and felt more locked in.

[@pjk-rips]

@@thegoodridesnow Yeah would be nice to get to try some fex magnetraction board some time. Then again I really like full camber and haven't got any issues with catchiness even with fully sharpened edges. Started in the 90's and probably slammed back in the day enough to learn to keep the edges from catching lol.

[@CN-bj4cd]

I just got the Burton custom X I'm 6'6 250lbs. He was saying it's better for lighter riders. I'm hoping I didn't buy the wrong board cuz I heard really good reviews about it. I got the 166W. My other boards have been the skunk ape lip tech in the past.

[@thegoodridesnow]

Yes it is but the 166w should be ok for you. What is your boot size?

[@CN-bj4cd]

Size 14

[@CN-bj4cd]

I just got the Union force bindings also large. I was just wondering if I should send back the bored or just keep it and try it out

[@thegoodridesnow]

Forces are a great call but you can do better board wise for your weight and boot size. Hit me up here and we will figure out a better board for ya.thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/

[@Drew-yy4sp]

I’m 6’4 200lb I got a custom camber 162W is that okay?

[@TheHottuna66]

I don`t think camber has drawbacks if you are a good rider. Riding a flying V has all kinds of draw backs if you are a good rider. It comes down to are you an expert or a beginner.

[@thegoodridesnow]

thanks for sharing your take.

[@narrowistheway77]

Even though I grew up riding nothing but camber for over a decade before the advent of new shapes, I gotta say that I do appreciate a multitude of board shapes. I still ride pure camber boards about 75% of the time, but there’s certain situations and days where I find other shapes can take my overall enjoyment in my riding day to new heights. Like in all reality, if there’s 2+ feet of fresh powder on the mountain there’s no way I’m taking out a camber board short of the Lib Tech Retro Ripper, but I’m still more likely to reach for a rear foot camber and rocker from the waist to the nose board for a day like that. As for a Flying V or a C2X or anything like that, they’re terrible for traversing, but if the day is a little icy they can be truly excellent for keeping the day fun

[@shshjkl]

70 kg with boot size 10 - X 154 will do?

[@thegoodridesnow]

What is your height? 10 US or UK?

[@shshjkl]

@@thegoodridesnow boot is 10 US (9 UK) and my height is 174 cm so 5' 8" - 5' 9"

[@thegoodridesnow]

Sorry didn't see this till now. 156 would be better to help deal with size 10 boots and it's a better match for your height. 70kg is fine for both boards. If you want more in depth advice hit me up here as I'm not sure this is the right board for ya. It really helps to know more about you before suggesting boards n sizes. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/

[@hiimjonpaul]

Dude, im watchings all these reviews.... - Basically back in .... 2006? Got a Custom X - and it changed my life. It was great! Though I wanted something more fun. It was hard to bend Fastforward - Edge blew out 2016 and I got a trick Pony. And I am not in love with it.... Now.... I got a dump truck and trick pony. And I need to replace this pony. And I can't decide. Custom X Custom X Flying V (though I hear if you are beginner its good, but it looks fun in chop. I dunno what to think, ive never had a V) Flight attend Territory Home Town Skeleton Its tough call... im torn. and ive gotta buy one soon due to various reasons. Hmmmmmm Thanks for all your conent

[@hiimjonpaul]

PS. if you read this. Size 9.5 Boot I can ride just about anything. But I don't like park. But I do like kickers. I enjoy 180 / 360s - want to butter more. But I love powder. Dump truck is for powder (going to get an even more powder board later) Wonder if the dump truck is to similar to Territory and all those others So maybe Camber X - but what about Flying V? Is it fun? Or not for somebody like me... Mind is spinning. : )

[@thegoodridesnow]

Oh yeah the Trick Pony. Fun ride. So hit me up here so I can learn more about you and give you real advice. I can't really help well based on the info given. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/

[@narrowistheway77]

You managed to ride the same board for 11 years? That’s crazy dude! Do you only make it up a couple times per season? Because I could see that in that case. But a board core lasting that long on a heavily ridden board would be crazy

[@hiimjonpaul]

@@narrowistheway77 For the first 2-3 seasons it was probably an average of 30 days. Then it dropped off a cliff to like 8-15 and I believe 2 of those years it was zero

[@hiimjonpaul]

@@narrowistheway77 For the first 2-3 seasons it was probably an average of 30 days. Then it dropped off a cliff to like 8-15 and I believe 2 of those years it was zero

[@MikeHoldridge]

Burton blossom future review?

[@thegoodridesnow]

Will try when the snow falls.

[@narrowistheway77]

I think it’s weird that Burton only made the Territory Manager for 2022/23 and then immediately discontinued it even though so many riders gave it favorable reviews 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@thegoodridesnow]

Burton does that a lot.

[@narrowistheway77]

@@thegoodridesnow yeah, but usually not on the boards that got such favorable reviews and sold out so quickly haha

[@thegoodridesnow]

Unfortunately they do. Check thegoodride.com to see all the 1 season boards they made that rode super well.

[@narrowistheway77]

@@thegoodridesnow interesting, I’ve only noticed them discontinuing the boards that still had enough stock for spring sales in the past. I thought this board sold out prior to March 2023

[@thegoodridesnow]

They are much further ahead than that design/sales wise. Stores are taking orders from Brands almost a year ahead and Brands are planning their line 2+ years ahead. It was already long gone by spring 2023.

[@devennagata1759]

I ordered custom 158. but I'm 5 10, 220 pounds. is it going to be to small for me?

[@thegoodridesnow]

What is your boot size?

[@devennagata1759]

@@thegoodridesnow 11

[@thegoodridesnow]

Did you get the 158 or 158w?

[@devennagata1759]

158

[@thegoodridesnow]

This will not work that well with size 11's. You might get toe/heel drag in steeper terrain or harder turns. Weight isnt ideal but you could live with that. I would cancel the order and get something wider. Hit me up here if you want detailed advice. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/

[@whoisthe1412]

Do one for Flying V

[@thegoodridesnow]

Ill try.

[@PROJECTFAP]

Thanks for the in depth review, Switched to full camber version this season, got second hand pretty cheap from my friend, this thing is beast, I love the thrilling feeling when hitting jump. Question: how Salomon assassin / assassin pro flex feel compare to the custom camber? Was looking assassin / assassin pro for hard icy condition, and learning butter tricks. High intermediate ability (I guess) 40% of the time spent in the park and love craving also hard charging. Thank.

[@thegoodridesnow]

I would pass on both and instead get something that is more of a true twin with more disruption in the sidecut like the Rossignol Jibsaw or YES Greats or YES Basic Uninc or Gnu RC C3 or Lib Tech TRS. If you want real advice taylored to your riding style, specs etc, hit me up here shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/

[@pjk-rips]

Old question but having ridden both Assassin is a notch softer and has way looser forgiving feel on snow. Once I got used to Custom's precision I basically couldn't ride with Assassin anymore as it feels so washy compared to full camber board. Custom holds it's edges notch better on hard snow because of stronger camber and stiffer flex but it will wash out on hard ice too (what wouldn't?).

[@PROJECTFAP]

@@pjk-rips Agreed, i got good deal for both board, the feel is as you description and can load custom c more on the jump.