Busting Fast & Furious Lies with Science

[@Donut]

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[@Prod.Datboi]

Cool

[@ehmzs]

lol

[@theguy497]

yea that car had a tractor transfer case so forward and reverse are on a seperate stick from the gears , you can switch between drive and reverse and have 4 gears in each

[@OG-Silesian]

fuck RAID. Everyone's being sponsored by it

[@OG-Silesian]

@Leto Day nah i don't care that "how could they!?" but its just annoying

[@masterhybrid16]

DAY 2: Of supporting uncle Jeremiah to bring back up to speed

[@BernieMP]

Why do we need to bring it back? What did I miss?

[@masterhybrid16]

@@BernieMP YOU MISSED EVERYTHING MY MAN No one could say a story about just a car company winning race while crying in happiness...only James can do it

[@justinfackler4189]

@@BernieMP yeah dude it’s pretty much what donut was built on

[@user98xp]

@@justinfackler4189 The early videos were all explaining technical stuff, similar to this video.

[@beingadityak]

Do support me as well. It's my 10th day today

[@twoacepilots]

“thanks to raid shado-“ me: skip skip skip

[@harryhallatt4873]

trust me

[@tjcmoto5484]

Me with any ads in KZbin videos.

[@buttholethebarbarian313]

Sponsor skip app

[@MrPanaramuh]

I kept skipping but...the...sponsor...segments...are...so...longggggggggggggggggggggggg on this channel. I swear.

[@iMagic16]

sponsorblock

[@user-xb8ts3rc9g]

Vin diesel seems like the kinda guy to permanently run rich just incase he needs to pull the coketab on his wastegate.

[@DennyBalance]

😂😂

[@lllBASlll]

"Pull the coketab on his wastegate" I don't know how, but I will incorporate this into my daily vocabulary. :D

[@civicboi_2419]

Lnao I love your pfp

[@DominicDarrell]

@@lllBASlll I'll pull the tab on YOUR wastegate ;)

[@lllBASlll]

@@DominicDarrell Easy there, Tiger. You gotta take me out to dinner first- I suggest Gallo's ;)

[@ReSpark141]

"cant drive fast in reverse" *laughs in defective gear ratio*

[@brbtrg]

Exactly. Probably not to 100mph but the top speed can definitely be increased (possibly at the expense of a whole bunch of things).

[@jeffhall92]

Custom 1.23:1 reverse gear. Have to get it up to at least 45mph in forward before spinning around for reverse engagement.

[@shadowgotmilk1]

They definetly used a tractor or semi transmission so they had multiple gears in both directions, there is a article about it somewhere

[@JussiValkila]

@@shadowgotmilk1 one of our tractor has 36 reverse gears

[@Beam-jo6sb]

@@JussiValkila ah yes, 36 reverse gears

[@irocz1380]

“If F&F is real, Spider man would be” - My Father

[@ItsJusGeral]

Your father is respected

[@Riumaan]

Dads real until they go out to get milk

[@612scalietti]

Loll

[@DanRyzESPUK]

Your father is based.

[@MrTokyoJunkie]

Spiderman is more scientifically accurate than F&F lmao

[@miniclip886]

Anybody remember when fast and the furious movies were actually about cars and street racing

[@TH3L3G3ND]

Yup

[@ivanmaras3429]

I think it was like 20 years ago🤣

[@aaronbell1596]

Nope, don't remember it at all. It never happened in the first place

[@MilesKicks]

I think that stopped after Tokyo Drift to be honest.

[@fluffyfreak505]

They never were. They have always been heist movies. Street racing and cars were, and still are a subplot.

[@MariuszChr]

Being engineer really takes out joy of watching movies sometimes...

[@ToreHansen]

People who works with computers know what you mean!

[@PontiacBandit]

Haha I have a minor in Physics, and movies are boring now. All you do is analyze what's "Wrong" with the movie... I understand where you're coming from

[@jeremiahzehr-stetzel]

Or a VFX artist

[@AngeloPaggett]

Imagine being a film major

[@ItalianMetalHED]

@@PontiacBandit i thought i was the only one lol

[@arnavgautam319]

Finally the Raid: Shadow Legends sponsorship happened at Donut too😂😂😂

[@carsonhodges2653]

We want up to speed. We want hrsprs and pop up up-and-down headlights. Oh and we also want LIGHTNING. Signed- The Boost Creeps

[@iwantsexseemyvideo2929]

Vino

[@Peron1-MC]

10:57 the idea is that he has a separate reverse gear so when he slams it innreverse he still has the top gear but in reverse

[@taarek2021]

actually i wasn't a car nerd until i watched the entire SCIENCE GARAGE series you guys made. so thanks you legends

[@iwantsexseemyvideo33]

Gino

[@akuio9711]

Man I really missed the OG science garage with Bart.

[@iwantsexseemyvideo7149]

Gino

[@Domfrey.]

Noone: Donut: POP POP POP UP N' DOWN HEADLIGHTS

[@Domfrey.]

@Vegas hey it's a meme and I used it soooooo........ GIVE ME A FREAKING LIKE

[@spetsnazhunter]

@@Domfrey. no

[@Dresden358]

Noone? More like Everyone!

[@davidstuart4915]

..."if u got it, flash it!" would be better?

[@Domfrey.]

@@spetsnazhunter haha I have 48 now

[@mykemech]

Can't believe Dom pulled off the front sheet metal by hand! I can't rip that stuff off when only one of the many many bolds are left on lol

[@pranavdubey3333]

"Warning! Danger to manifold"

[@iwantsexseemyvideo33]

Gino

[@triumphtheinsultdog1550]

That's the most famous makes no sense thing in fast and furious history and they didn't talk about it

[@pranavdubey3333]

@@triumphtheinsultdog1550 i know right?

[@shanepantano9532]

I don’t understand how this is still “Bumper 2 Bumper” when you’re not going over a vehicle from bumper... to bumper. That’s how the show got it’s name, you know? Not to say it’s not still a good show. I enjoyed the episode. Super informative, as usual, but you can feel where I’m coming from, yeah?

[@tomsvideohole8894]

jerry meant to say back 2 back lol

[@mrcarson7765]

If I remember correctly, there was a G63 that could do 60mph (100kph) in reverse. Stock, out of factory. And some people rolled it, so there was a recall to limit the reverse speed.

[@nthgth]

The Ford Crown Victoria could also exceed 60mph in reverse. At least with one available diff ratio

[@jaydub8576]

You didn't mention Brian's 9 speed manual Eclipse.

[@99toyotacorolla]

The Danger to Manifold, floor destroyer, Eclipse

[@smilemore1997]

Brian: dies, screaming, in a burning ball of fire with his driver next to him in his Eclipse after driving 100mph in reverse

[@Where_is_Waldo]

@@99toyotacorolla Yeah, what the hell was with that? What did the engine make so much torque that it twisted the floor out of the car? ...and I bet that's still a better explanation than anyone who worked on the movie could come up with. And was anyone else confused when a bunch of tuner car lovers were surprised that a Mark IV supra had a 2JZ? Or that Jesse had to explain to Letty how a turbo works?

[@initialyeet3951]

Lol the one about the zombie cars cracked me up when they hacked a CROWN VIC! HOW?!

[@uerobeataccount1674]

*[ C O O L V I B R A T I O N S ]*

[@jasonshi1]

Love how educational and entertaining this is. Imagine if schools explained things like this haha. 🙌🏻

[@burritobowl0190]

10:51 In the 2003 HotWheels Worldrace and 2005's Acceleracers Ignition, the car known as "slingshot" is known to have 3 reverse gears.

[@arjun.ahluwalia]

NOS, Reverse gear, ZOMBIE CAR APOCALYPSE "That escalated quickly" is an understatement

[@smilemore1997]

How about...

[@smilemore1997]

Brian: dies, screaming, in a burning ball of fire with his driver next to him in his porsche after driving 100mph in reverse

[@buggy730]

Yep.

[@shalmonshelare9997]

no matter how unrealistic it is , still F&F is my fav car movie franchise!!!!!!

[@drakeringholz794]

This is the first raid: shadow legends ad I haven’t skipped through

[@unknown-yx2hi]

Morise the car company that build the mini made a gear box like 10:45 That had this very cool designs you should check it out it was designed so in ww2 you could escape tanks faster in your car

[@farmerfrugal]

i've been liking this fast and furious content! interesting to see your takes on all the cringe and strange shit they have going on in the movies lol

[@dakotarodgers9988]

How does B2B have the best intro sequence?? It’s so smooth!!!

[@derrickstorm6976]

You know a channel has gotten hooked on that sweet sweet sponsor money when they take one from Raid Shadow Legends😂

[@jakewagner7416]

About the Wheelie Burnout. It's not Impossible. The torque causing the wheelie comes from the friction interaction with the ground, like you said. The force due to friction is dependent upon the coefficient of friction between the rubber and the ground. That coefficient doesn't disappear when the wheels break loose, though. When entering a burnout, you're simply dropping from the coefficient of static friction to the lower coefficient of sliding friction. So you still have the identical mechanism available to do dank whoolies, but you'd need more power going to the rear wheels to achieve the same level of force. Meaning it's not *impossible*, just *improbable*. That's not stopped F&F in the past, though, and we love them for it. We love them like... Family.

[@ScottWaa]

Pfft, listen to this Busta. He must be a cop.

[@nazzswift8114]

Facts. This guy could set you up in a middle or a drag race or street race LMFAOOO

[@haxthehax]

I'm confused. Is it F&F busta or GTA SA busta?

[@Headshrinker39]

I liked the fact that the most replayed part of this video is the shirts bit at the end

[@shona5512]

_"The zero day exploit for a 2001 Passat.. _*_IS_*_ a 2001 Passat._ _That car is dogshit."_ Aight Jerry, as a B5.5 Passat owner, you have me feeling personally attacked.

[@truckerdudexxl]

Anything will explode if to much pressure is applied. During my racing days we used to increase the bottle pressure with a torch and I've definitely seen few blow from high bottle pressure

[@BigStreams_]

Maaaan, you can’t go getting me hyped with that *Pop up up and down headliiiiights* and expect me to NOT buy one of those shirts

[@iwantsexseemyvideo2929]

Vino

[@КонстантинАбрамов-ы8г]

Vino

[@robertmiller684]

I drive some big tractors and they do have multiple reverse gears

[@TheRealFobican]

How about hooking one of those to a very powerful engine if not motor?

[@snipodi]

Actually tractors dont have reverse gears. They have the same gears for forward and reverse.

[@Aidscapade71]

So couple things I want to bring up... There are vehicles with multiple reverse gears. An Eaton 10 speed (most common semi truck transmission) has Hi Lo. So it has a Hi 5 and Lo 5. There's also a Hi reverse and Lo reverse. (Hi reverse is rarely used). Point being... It's definitely possible. Also as for the nos tank blowup, it's a pressurized tank full of oxygen. An influx of oxygen definitely has an affect of fire. you can test this with those PC cleaner cans which are just pressurized oxygen. I can't imagine nitrous oxygen is much different.

[@mr.nobody9074]

9:50 Detroits running backwards can do that,because there are 18 reverse gears and 2 fowards if you manage to make it run backwards.

[@albondar]

Wow man enjoyed the episode ! Thanks for this ! Haha indeed the estimate of the top speed in reverse is funny

[@martinb.770]

Lifting the front wheel while accelerating: Cars like the Ferrari GTO or F40 are said to lower the force on the front axle by 90% while speeding, which might bring lifting the front wheels in reach, though, these constructions use a generally light rear engine layout, not a full blown big block in front... I guess, a tuned Lancia Stratos might do it, but on the other hand, any race car apart from dragsters will get a weight balance, that keeps it maneuverable in corners, even when accelerating to some extent.

[@microchrist6122]

“Most dogshit cars of the last 20 years” video please

[@electronicscavenger2667]

also the one I can't believe he missed was the floor pan in the first movie.. if you had a welded for pan on the bottom of your car, and your frame tweaked enough to pop it loose.. even if it was riveted.. you could not keep it on the road.. you would have a lot more problems than a floor pan making sparks.

[@66shaggy77]

"POP UP UP AND DOWN HEADLIGHTS, POP UP UP AN DOWN HEADLIGHTS, POP UP UP AND DOWN HEADLIGHTS" 😁😂😂😂

[@Mcgillum]

What makes me laugh the most is that it shows the charger with slicks and then with regular road tires right after lol 😂

[@josephwilding5142]

For the f&f 8 backwards scene. The car doesn't have multiple reverse gears. Basically it has its gears and can then switch those gears into reverse. Essentially having the same ratios but spinning the tires the other way.

[@Nathan15038]

13:20 yeah that’s what I said I said wait a minute all those cars look old like they look old-school before much technology was invented

[@Joe-um7sx]

9:30 ive seen f8 of the furious like 5 times. for some reason only now do i realized how weird it is, dom picking up some random kid after a literal horde of random kids come up to him. thanks lmao gave me a laugh

[@hardik4819]

Brian was running a gallo 24 he can do anything 😂😂😂

[@aftermathsample305]

The outro on this video is FIRE!!!

[@q1337]

@10:19 this is doable, as anyone who ever played around in a sufficiently advanced racing simulator knows, you can lower the final drive ratio , increase all the other ratios to their mathematical equivalent, and the result is a low enough reverse gear ratio that you can speed on a highway, few issues that simply can't be fixed any way while keeping the car a car meant for moving forward and high speed reverse a "bonus" are caster, the caster is always set so the car balances itself straight but when you flip it 180 degrees it does the opposite, it becomes extremely sensitive and it will surely end you. The second problem is the reverse ratio is high for a reason, using a lower ratio will make the stopped -> driving transition one hell of a clutch burner if you went with a gear ratio low enough (for a high enough reverse speed). So while yes, it is possible, no, no-one sane enough would ever do this to their real life car, this isn't a simulator where you use a few sliders and bam.

[@RailsofForney]

You can in fact do a wheelie and a burnout at the same time…so long as you’re on Pluto or somewhere with abysmal gravity.

[@tarun2231]

physics has left the chat

[@shengrant3088]

2:39 the charger act as if it's pulling a imaginary safe lol but looks like it's meant show him flooring beyond normal

[@CesarTheGamer32]

4:45 nice plug

[@lmacc]

In fast 7, during the final battle of Deckard and Dom, Dom has a button to lift his cars front. If Dom started a burnout and pressed that button, technically he couldve done a burnout and a wheelie at the same time.

[@eoghanbayot4365]

5:30 I thought i was because of the gas tank at the back 😂

[@dillonmorton8140]

I want the pop up and down headlights as a ring tone xD

[@leadfootjunkie1]

nitrous oxide is an oxydizer (its in the name), it itself wouldn't detonate, but if the car is on fire already, it will make it a few hundred times worse in a very intense and very rapid manner, which is exactly what happened in the clip. there was a fuel fire first, which burst the bottle and released all of that gas in a uncontrolled and rather violent manner, there by hyper-oxydizeing it and making the whole tank go up almost at once. there's a lot of energy in gasoline.

[@HenryMidfields]

Jerry: NOOOOOOS NOOOOOOOOOOOS🤪🤪🤪 LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣

[@bigbenisdaman]

I just always assumed the nos explosion was from the fuel tank being shot...then the nos just accelerating the combustion like spraying fire with oxygen.

[@vaninda1751]

Exactly, the nos would not burn or explode itself but it would be one hell of an oxidizer for any fuel.

[@avsky95]

I beg to differ on the NOX explosion. Yes, they made it more cinematic with the green flames and such. But NOX are system with NO in the tank. Tank design for holding it are most likely high pressure in the range of 3000 psi. Heat from a car burning can rupture the tank causing an explosion. So it should be possible to get an explosion from the NOX in the car from burning.

[@mrsrabbit2712]

F&F is the vehicular equivalent of the 10000 bullet Ak47 magazine.

[@PinkWolfxd.]

please do the gear shift next, i would love to here what u have to say about it :)

[@linkloudenback8359]

GM made a powerglide transmission for tanks that had two forwards gears and two reverse gears the ratio was the same for both forwards and reverse. I read an article from Hot Rod magazine of a guy that built a hot rod with one of these transmissions he said he could go just as fast in reverse as forwards.

[@ianlerner6092]

on the point of the first one, idk about you but when I've done burnouts in my car still gets pushed forward and if I let off the brakes entirely I will usually start moving forward 20 feet then the wheels firmly grip the ground and the burnout ends. Suffice it to say, my car doesn't have half the amount of torque it would need to pop a wheelie but if he needs 700 torque and his car has a thousand or more I think the wheelie burnout mix could be possible

[@bbo40]

My brother-in-law loves the F&F franchise ? But he thinks modifying a car is installing a air freshener ! I hate it when he wants to "talk cars" with me

[@Otakahunt]

Donut Media, if that wastegate trick isnt possible then could you explain how Nissan R90ck driven by Blundell was able to reach completely new top speeds on the mulsanne straight back in the day despite having broken turbo? they say its wastegate was stuck closed. The engine probably broke afterwards but regardless it was given a big boost to power. Its obviously a racecar but would be cool to hear how did that work and why did that work and not this one? Worth a video? :D

[@bigerevo5834]

What is the equation to get the speed in reverse once I have all of the numbers. Like it so they will hopefully see it or someone that knows will see it.

[@earlycuyler2295]

As somebody who has actually been to cuba, i can tell you the whole "wastegate trick" is actually probably the most realistic aspect of the scene. I mean... Save the can of coke being used to pull the hose. Go try to find a can of coke being casually consumed on the street in Havana; I dare you.

[@Rubijoyal]

actually doing 100mph in reverse is possible with a tall enough rear gear and final drive gear setup, though in order to this, the reverse gear would have to be close to a 1:1 gear ratio in relation to the final drive gear, or even be an over drive gear in order to do this, provided the engine has enough torque to grunt the car in motion.

[@aaroncostello8812]

I watched the first Fast and Furious in the theater. As I was walking out of the theater, I said to my buddy, "That movie was made FOR guys who don't know anything about cars BY guys who don't know anything about cars." Who the fuck would double-clutch a modern car IN A DRAG RACE??

[@maxhenrikson9996]

In the old Herbie movie they mounted the body on the pan backwards so herbie could win in reverse.

[@wyrazowfkp]

In theory you can do a light burnout -- and then do a whellie --- especially on the normal asphalt ..... It would require almost perfect conditions --- as the tires are cold they have limited traction, and while hot they have significantly more traction.... Since the tire getting hot gains traction -- it is somewhat possible to do that not starting with high rpms (at first light burnout while next going for a wheelie) but the smoke will end quickly as the car would go --- exactly like in the movie. In the movie it was fake probably as they take a lot of shots of the same scene -- still it is possible :)

[@WP-6V92TA]

If it had a tractor transmission it is true that they have multiple reverse gears (Up to 8 on various mechanical transmission tractors) however, you would need such a high rear end gear ratio that the rear end gear itself would be incredibly fragile. So going that fast in reverse would be plausible, but not practical or even safe.

[@JamesAce]

CMON the driving fast backwards bit was a perfect time to talk a little bit about the old DAF transmission and the dutch DAF backwards racing cup

[@Mr.Schitzengigglez]

Pretty sure the waste gate delete could work with that carb, if he way overjetted the secondaries, and only opened them when he pulled the cable. But, running the rest of the race, strictly on the primaries would negate any benefit. You guys should still try it.

[@samueldorrington8990]

There was definitely a mercedes that had a Forward and Reverse serperate from the main gear box. So you could drive in reverse exactly the same as you drove forward.

[@palefaced1]

Best part of this video was the pop up headlights song.

[@Harley032]

I feel like the coke tab trick could work. It would just be extremely lean which can make more power but it wouldn’t last long at all but in the movie it doesn’t have to

[@corbingreiner9879]

I found the hover conversion in Back To The Future more believable.

[@DSeibert_2026]

10:00 I screamed WaIt tHatS NoT A reGeRA

[@marchabbaki6621]

I have read somewhere that this is actually popular to use random transmissions in cars in Cuba and have like 3 or 4 gears to go backwards. I don't know why would they use it anyways except for very fast backwards street racing😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@doricy.]

i definitely understood everything you said

[@tonyluzbetak9934]

Ya theres tractor transmissions out there that basically you select forward or reverse then you have however many gears you have. Kinda cool kinda sketchy haha. Driving the big ol Ford tractor at like 20 mph in reverse is crazy (20 is that things top speed haha)

[@logicalrationalfishing7481]

Car would instantly run lean as hell, overheating like BAD. Even with EFI a change that drastic (tardo turbo) would probably cause the car to backfire or run super lean. I also think even though the turbo would speed up, it shouldn't speed up instantly like pictured. The "Zombie" or hacked cars is worst. If there are not motors to control those aspects, how would you remotely control them? For example, if there is nothing there to compress the brake pedal, what compresses it? Same with steering? Maybe an electronic throttle could be activated?

[@nfinzer22]

Bring back Science Garage

[@CFNgaming]

if you pause at 10:29 you'll also see that Paul Walker doesn't even touch a handbrake to get his car in reverse. Bluetooth handbrake tech in 2004 or whenever?

[@openlyracist8055]

If ye have a cvt transmission in a car, it can do the same speeds in both forward and reverse. This is why cvt's are banned from reverse racing challenges.

[@nicholassekas3060]

10:23 yeah thats right ti-89 master race

[@heymydude4533]

James esoteric shirt is esoteric

[@hunterthurgood2121]

James makes me geek lol "POP-UP UP AND DOWN HEALIGHTS"

[@WONMARK]

Jaaammes pumphrey!.... Why am I yelling? Thanks for the video.

[@robertjacobs3307]

Passat is actually dope when modded

[@MM-dn3de]

Dom had kegs of beer in the trunk.. all that extra weight made it to a wheelie

[@Chubbza5]

What about boost reference carbs?

[@djsercy5879]

0:35 YOU WERE ALL I HAD LEFT

[@kalasmournrex1470]

What you don't know is his Evo had 6 reverse gears. What's interesting here is technically a Tesla Model S could go just as fast in reverse, since it's direct drive....

[@whatswrongwithnick]

Tbf. Controlling the amount of gas or which tires brake without self driving isn't impossible, it's just not easy

[@charlesbraithwate3531]

Should've talked about the vault scene in fast five

[@daviddepto]

I don't completely agree with the first one. When the wheels start to spin, there isn't 'no friction.' The equation for friction has a coefficient of friction between 2 surfaces, in this case the rear tire contact patch and road. There are 2 coefficients, one static (wheels not spinning), and another dynamic (wheels spinning.) The dynamic coefficient of friction is lower than static, and you are liquifying the outer layer of rubber causing even less forward force. But there could be a big enough friction force with wheels spinning, esp slowly to accelerate the car fast enough to get your 2.6 g's of accel upward.

[@tgnm9615]

5:49 I thought he is going to say movie logic