“but Zamasu has a pure heart tho”

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Carthu's Dojo

Carthu's Dojo

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@CarthusDojo
@CarthusDojo 2 ай бұрын
"the tea reverted to pure in episode 55" I just disagree. The tea was twisted and impure the entire time he's talking about his plans and ambitions - eventually settling once Zamasu ends his speech. Gowasu specifically asks for another cup, implying this one was impure and that Zamas' pure heart is still being tested. Also, if the Kinto'un rejected Krillin - I think it'll reject Zamas LOL
@nunyabizness6089
@nunyabizness6089 2 ай бұрын
One could also read it as Zamasu being unstable, flip-flopping between "pure" and "impure" thoughts at the drop of a hat, but that would likely disqualify him from riding the nimbus anyways...
@jojo198ful
@jojo198ful 2 ай бұрын
This is the next "is ssj3 a good transformation" 😂
@gojirarex5138
@gojirarex5138 2 ай бұрын
@CarthusDojo that's, an interpretation of it I guess? But It seems weird to put focus on it becoming pure if it just, stops being pure when he stops talking and that's it. Zamas is pure because he fully believes he's doing the right thing at that point. Same as goku or gohan, they've killed many people but to them it was always the right thing, to zamas the zero mortal plan IS the right thing.
@TamsCake
@TamsCake 2 ай бұрын
@@CarthusDojo You could easily see it as him going back and forth between being pure and impure, makes sense. His ideology was constantly being challenged by Gowasu's teachings. But I don't believe his ending of the speech is just the halting of his belief in that moment. I think the tea becoming settled right after his speech ended means he's reached a new state of enlightenment cause he's managed to out talk Gowasu in their little debate. And Gowasu asking for more tea is obviously trying to test his where Zamasu' heart and mind truly lie, because it's a bit worrying seeing the tea become clear after Zamasu spoke so confidently about his stance just before. Now in the case of riding the Nimbus, that's a different matter. While at certain points Zamasu is pure of heart, would the Nimbus accept him. It has its own level of sentience right? Would it deny Zamasu because of his beliefs despite being pure? I don't know
@Cameron_Pratt
@Cameron_Pratt 2 ай бұрын
@@CarthusDojo It rejected the most important woman in the series as well.
@souptikchakraborty2004
@souptikchakraborty2004 2 ай бұрын
Zamasu's intentions are as pure as the sorry I say whilst being late everytime in school 😂
@ZeroYami
@ZeroYami 2 ай бұрын
​@souptikchakraborty.yt.2004that might be THE coincidence of all time
@nomoono9812
@nomoono9812 2 ай бұрын
@souptikchakraborty.yt.2004thats crazy
@nomoono9812
@nomoono9812 2 ай бұрын
@@ZeroYamihe joined 39 minutes ago
@EliasRoss-zw1vy
@EliasRoss-zw1vy 2 ай бұрын
@@ZeroYaminope, he made his account today lol
@reddragon100
@reddragon100 2 ай бұрын
He is pure for sure but just that his pure is pure evil not good
@warr_lord8623
@warr_lord8623 2 ай бұрын
I always interpreted his "pure heart" as in he truly believed what he wanted to do was morally right and justified, as his divine duty as a god
@מקטהקלמוורה
@מקטהקלמוורה 2 ай бұрын
He killed all of the gods tho. Thats the same as us killing other people because the disagree with us
@uigokublack2478
@uigokublack2478 2 ай бұрын
​@@מקטהקלמוורהConcidering he thought mortals would destroy all of existence if not wiped out, that was still justified in his mind.
@warr_lord8623
@warr_lord8623 2 ай бұрын
@user-tl9zt7bp6m I didn't say that I think "pure of heart" meant "good" here. Just that he believes in his ideals so much that they are an absolute for him. Pure as in purely devoted to what he believes in the most.
@geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007
@geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007 2 ай бұрын
Hence what I often say when people say Zamasu is pure of heart. He doesn’t have a pure heart but a pure CONSCIENCE. (And even then Black showed signs of hesitation, if I recall correctly)
@reddragon100
@reddragon100 2 ай бұрын
Isn't Carthu video literally that he is no longer pure of heart after he plans his zero mortal plan.
@Amanwholovesgood_stories69
@Amanwholovesgood_stories69 2 ай бұрын
Your telling me the guy that was planning to kill ALL MORTALS HAS A PURE HEART💀💀💀
@pootisbird4970
@pootisbird4970 2 ай бұрын
Just because someone has A pure heart doesn’t mean that it is purely good (look at cell saga vegeta or kid buu)
@bighomieglo423
@bighomieglo423 2 ай бұрын
@@pootisbird4970but it’s implied pure good not pure evil
@מקטהקלמוורה
@מקטהקלמוורה 2 ай бұрын
​@@pootisbird4970to ride the nimbus youd need a pure pure heart which is why roshi cant ride it anymore
@PalewhaleN7
@PalewhaleN7 2 ай бұрын
​@@pootisbird4970what does that prove Pure heart always means good in db They "thought" you need to have a pure heart to get SSJ, which was BS
@Eric6761
@Eric6761 2 ай бұрын
​@@pootisbird4970kid Buu has not a pure heart, he doesn't have nothing but instinct
@SavantPete
@SavantPete 2 ай бұрын
This made me realize that Gawasu saw Zamasu's tea become corrupted, and didn't even acknowledge it. Like Spider-Man ignoring his spider sense thinking it's a fluke
@SeisoYabai
@SeisoYabai 2 ай бұрын
Gawasu was (perhaps) naive and believed that Zamasu merely needed to be guided in the right direction
@Zikuto_
@Zikuto_ 2 ай бұрын
@@SeisoYabaithis is exactly it he hoped he could steer zamasu in the proper direction for a Kai
@helixsol7171
@helixsol7171 2 ай бұрын
No the tea didn't become corrupted, it cleared up, which is exactly what Gowasu was talking about. That was the exact indication that Zamasu's heart was pure, it went from cloudy to clear.
@andrewgonzales6527
@andrewgonzales6527 2 ай бұрын
​​​@@helixsol7171I'm the perfect example for the phrase, "Don't argue with a dragon ball fan, they don't know how to read." The tea was normal, then got corrupted after Gowasu started talking about the tea purity test. Edit: changed you're to I'm. Also I was plain wrong
@helixsol7171
@helixsol7171 2 ай бұрын
@@andrewgonzales6527 The tea being cloudy was what Gowasu said indicated an impure heart, go watch the show again. You and Carthu are both just plain wrong.
@Ggr3alLife
@Ggr3alLife 2 ай бұрын
"These Filthy Ningens"
@destiny6080
@destiny6080 2 ай бұрын
Ngas, I couldn't say the whole thing but you get the point
@huntertrum3658
@huntertrum3658 2 ай бұрын
​@@destiny6080 bro had to explain the joke
@ThinkingCrimson
@ThinkingCrimson 2 ай бұрын
Fuckin mortys...
@darryljohnson9236
@darryljohnson9236 2 ай бұрын
F@cking morties...
@iicoffyii8387
@iicoffyii8387 2 ай бұрын
Mortys would've been fine in this case. But, dropping the hard N like that is unforgivable.
@cody3504
@cody3504 2 ай бұрын
“I do have a pure heart, a heart of pure evil!!” -Vegeta
@FantomMisfit
@FantomMisfit 2 ай бұрын
I thought you were gonna say "pure unadulterated badass" 😂
@cody3504
@cody3504 2 ай бұрын
@@FantomMisfit 😂😂😂
@Lenoh
@Lenoh 2 ай бұрын
@@FantomMisfit I heard that, Tri-clops!
@JustAJosuke
@JustAJosuke 2 ай бұрын
​@@Lenoh "Is that ok?"
@Cameron_Pratt
@Cameron_Pratt 2 ай бұрын
@@JustAJosuke “AS A MATTER OF FACT GO ****** YOURSELF!”
@mcsissorface7756
@mcsissorface7756 2 ай бұрын
His heart is pure... pure evil
@idosarts_and_krafts
@idosarts_and_krafts 17 күн бұрын
More like pure unadulterated ego..... Oh wait wrong character 😂
@captain_bingus
@captain_bingus 2 ай бұрын
If zamasu can ride the nimbus then so can i
@zpydd_
@zpydd_ 2 ай бұрын
ok veggie
@RockStoneLee19
@RockStoneLee19 2 ай бұрын
None of us can. It's reality my dude.
@BeautifulRoppi
@BeautifulRoppi 2 ай бұрын
​@@RockStoneLee19nah there's still few who can ride it
@AnotherAcc-n5l
@AnotherAcc-n5l 2 ай бұрын
Wow have you also committed mass genocide? No? Well I have
@FantomMisfit
@FantomMisfit 2 ай бұрын
Do you truly unironically believe everything you're doing is righteous and just? Because that's what Zamasu believed with every fiber of his being
@PerfectCell420
@PerfectCell420 2 ай бұрын
But didn't the tea suddenly become pure after he convinced himself the zero mortal plan was the morally right decision.
@revya4294
@revya4294 2 ай бұрын
Pretty sure it did, maybe it was Anime exclusive?
@KoroshiamoSamurai
@KoroshiamoSamurai 2 ай бұрын
​@@revya4294well pure heart doesn't exactly mean pure good yk? Like we could say zamasu had a pure evil heart without any doubts about his actions and believing its the right choice
@reddragon100
@reddragon100 2 ай бұрын
He could be pure evil. Pure doesn't have to be pure good. It can be pure evil too
@CarthusDojo
@CarthusDojo 2 ай бұрын
The tea settles eventually but it was twisting the entire time he explains the plan after killing the barbarian. Gowasu even asks for a fresh cup - implying he's both still being tested and the tea was impure.
@Bluberries2
@Bluberries2 2 ай бұрын
@@CarthusDojowhat the sigma
@Maskarade217
@Maskarade217 23 күн бұрын
A "pure heart" as in his ideals is all there is in it. It lacks everything else. Including compassion.
@aidankeogh9994
@aidankeogh9994 2 ай бұрын
"Pure" is defined as "not mixed or adulterated with any other substance or material", not just how we would measure superficial moral goodness. I don't believe that Zamasu passing the tea test ever meant that he was good, but rather that he had set aside any doubts or confusion as to his own divine mission. His mind, like the tea, was unclouded simply because he'd finally made up his mind.
@Kale_Kirishima
@Kale_Kirishima 2 ай бұрын
Ah yes my favourite dragon ball villain, "some ass"
@arnelanat3578
@arnelanat3578 27 күн бұрын
😂
@ggfiogkos33
@ggfiogkos33 10 күн бұрын
"go ass"💀
@TamsCake
@TamsCake 2 ай бұрын
But didn't the tea become clear afterwards once he became sure of himself? I'd say his heart is pure in the sense of genuinely believing his thoughts and actions are completely justified. There was no shame, no guilt, no regrets, no second thoughts and no doubts when he enacted his Zero Mortals plan. In his mind, Zamasu is righteous and sees no inherent evil in such a process. In fact, in the Dragon Ball Fusions game, there's a particular skill that is exclusive to certain characters, like Kid Goku and Zamasu called Pure Heart, which allows them to be immune to attacks like the Devilmite Beam, which specifically targets any trace of evil in one's heart. (Do take information from games with a grain of salt though. They aren't going out of their way to misinform but they don't typically consult Toriyama on what tid bits of info to add like this.) Edit: I will say, I don't think Zamasu stayed pure hearted throughout after that, like when he fused or something. And I also don't think Goku Black was pure hearted like Zamasu was either. He seemed more malicious and dark when he fought likely because of his innate saiyan instincts and felt like he was bordering on the line of just being straight up evil. He even relished in toying with Trunks and the others.
@LeafeonLive
@LeafeonLive 2 ай бұрын
That scene was from 55. The one Carthu showcased was from 53, in which it did not revert back to clear.
@TamsCake
@TamsCake 2 ай бұрын
@@LeafeonLive exactly, which was afterwards
@CarthusDojo
@CarthusDojo 2 ай бұрын
read pinned
@goofyahdemoman1134
@goofyahdemoman1134 2 ай бұрын
No. The Devilmite Beam and Spirit Bomb are both tests based on being pure of heart. Goku and Gohan are the ONLY CONFIRMED cases where the other methods have checked out(Goku surviving the Devilmite Beam and Gohan bouncing back the Spirit Bomb). Krillin doesn't really count though as I don't think Adult Krillin ever tried riding the nimbus, and he was never having to bounce back the Spirit Bomb in the Saiyan Saga. Kid Buu and Frieza are evil, so they would take damage from the Spirit Bomb. The sword of hope also has the same properties as the Spirit Bomb due to the energy being accumulated the same way, and it killed Merged Zamasu. If Zamasu WAS pure of heart, the sword of hope should have done absolutely nothing.
@TamsCake
@TamsCake 2 ай бұрын
@@goofyahdemoman1134 I mean yes, but really no. While it does share the properties of a spirit bomb, that is still a giant energy sword. I don't think a big blade is exclusive to only cutting down evil people, it's still a physical attack. Also I'm not saying Zamasu was pure of heart then, we literally see that he's become corrupted post fusion and he himself knows that. And I also believe Zamasu fluctuated between being pure of heart and downright evil, it wasn't a constant thing. Maybe I should have said that in my first comment
@The_kashimo_glazer
@The_kashimo_glazer 22 күн бұрын
You forget pure doesn't have to mean pure good. It could mean pure justice, that would fit zamasu very well as well
@gamertj2328
@gamertj2328 21 күн бұрын
But killing everyone doesn't mean pure justice
@The_kashimo_glazer
@The_kashimo_glazer 21 күн бұрын
@gamertj2328 in zamasu's mind killing all intelligent mortals does
@howlingdin9332
@howlingdin9332 15 күн бұрын
​@@The_kashimo_glazerJustice can only exist based on objective standards, not whatever someone happens to believe. Zamasu ends up doing everything he denounced mortals for doing: Murder, theft, and even meddling with time.
@shen_valor
@shen_valor 2 ай бұрын
He's a golden apple with a rotten core. Possibly quite literally if you know your lore.
@markmeeky2651
@markmeeky2651 2 ай бұрын
And you're also ignoring the fact the tea becomes clear again.
@Imwinwix
@Imwinwix 2 ай бұрын
Love your videos :D
@ThuyNguyen-nh6hi
@ThuyNguyen-nh6hi 2 ай бұрын
If people still believe in the Flying nimbus theory then *JUST USED MASTER ROSHI FOR EXAMPLE* 😂
@acejumper1681
@acejumper1681 Ай бұрын
The tea clearing up immediately after zamasu giving his speech about his ideology of mortals shows that he really does have a pure heart, just not pure good.
@Jyolski
@Jyolski Ай бұрын
Literally incorrect not a pure heart, zamasu cock riders spotted opinion deemed meaningless
@geogamerya
@geogamerya 2 ай бұрын
Anyone else reminded of the vegeta going super saiyan moment? Gohan: "I thought you needed to have a pure heart" Vegeta: "My heart is pure... PURE EVIL"
@Sasugoat
@Sasugoat 2 ай бұрын
No pure unadulterated badass
@demogaming9193
@demogaming9193 2 ай бұрын
I wanna I wanna be a Super Saiyan I wanna! I wanna! I wanna! I wanna! I wanna! I wanna! I wanna!
@geogamerya
@geogamerya 2 ай бұрын
@@demogaming9193 lmao
@Sasugoat
@Sasugoat 2 ай бұрын
@@demogaming9193 🤣
@Ash-Winchester
@Ash-Winchester 2 ай бұрын
Krillin said that, not gohan.
@HeWhoMurksWithOneLeap
@HeWhoMurksWithOneLeap 2 ай бұрын
He's got a pure heart. Never said it was pure good.
@Heatrecks
@Heatrecks 2 ай бұрын
Seriously, how could anyone say he was pure of heart while he was literally fiending to kill innocent people
@uigokublack2478
@uigokublack2478 2 ай бұрын
Because being pure of heart has nothing to do with being a good person. Its about fully beliving what your doing is good.
@Heatrecks
@Heatrecks 2 ай бұрын
@@uigokublack2478 Oh well I always thought that was self-righteous
@uigokublack2478
@uigokublack2478 2 ай бұрын
​@@HeatrecksIt is self-righteous. He is Pure Evil, but Pure Evil doesn't mean being completely and utterly evil. It means doing evil believing it is right without any doubt.
@Robos-yt5gj
@Robos-yt5gj 2 ай бұрын
@@uigokublack2478he still not going to ride the flying nimbia
@uigokublack2478
@uigokublack2478 2 ай бұрын
​​@@Robos-yt5gjWe don't know that. Its impossible to prove it without seeing him try it. Not to mention the nimbus might require a pure good heart. Its easy to assume that but impossible to prove until we see another person like Zamasu who dose evil but thinks he's morally in the right with all his heart try to ride it.
@Soulreactions
@Soulreactions Ай бұрын
He HAD a pure heart.
@revya4294
@revya4294 2 ай бұрын
Didn't the tea literally go back to normal after Zamasu had a clear mind for his intentions?
@FantomMisfit
@FantomMisfit 2 ай бұрын
Yes and Gowasu considers the matter closed because of it. Which is why he was so blindsided when Zamasu's betrayal was revealed. He even says "I thought you moved past those thoughts and turned over a new leaf"
@Cruz828
@Cruz828 2 ай бұрын
Zamasu is as pure hearted as his definition of being a divine justice, and killing every innocent people 😂
@Naxaky
@Naxaky 2 ай бұрын
Finaly🙏 someone who doesnt prounounces the U at the end🙏🙏
@greekzeus9818
@greekzeus9818 Ай бұрын
I think you care a bit too much...
@Naxaky
@Naxaky Ай бұрын
@@greekzeus9818 special names man special names🗿
@originality.5878
@originality.5878 2 ай бұрын
Was waiting for a new short haha.
@souptikchakraborty2004
@souptikchakraborty2004 2 ай бұрын
But can *Carthu* ride the flying nimbus... that's the *REAL* question ?? 🤔🤔
@sam74_8
@sam74_8 2 ай бұрын
zamasu is type of person to do good through evil
@DouglasStewart99
@DouglasStewart99 2 ай бұрын
Zamasu is one of the examples that show being "Pure of Heart" doesn't mean it excludes being *pure evil.* Knight Templars people...
@chugiakjrtheplaywwright6461
@chugiakjrtheplaywwright6461 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, That's a recurring theme in Dragon Ball that being "Pure of Heart" means you have a childlike innocence and are not bogged down by cynicism and selfishness, but that doesn't mean it's the same thing as being morally good. It's repeatedly stated that Goku is "Pure of Heart" but also claimed that he's "not a hero" or otherwise doesn't think of himself as a good person, Fat Buu and Kid Buu are both stated or implied to be "Pure of Heart" yet that doesn't prevent them from doing horrific acts of evil, and Zeno is also stated to be "Pure" but said purity also means he is willing to perform destruction on an incomprehensible scale without really being bothered by the moral ramifications of it. It's entirely possible for Zamasu to be "Pure" but be so delusional that he considers his unquestionably evil action to be for the betterment of the Multiverse.
@orangitotheman30
@orangitotheman30 2 ай бұрын
Like Vegeta when he transformed into Super Saiyan for the first time
@DouglasStewart99
@DouglasStewart99 2 ай бұрын
@@orangitotheman30 *EXACTLY!* It's even the trope image of Pure is not Good on TV Tropes.
@benny4162
@benny4162 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for playing the Tenkaichi 3 music from when Vegeta says “My heart is pure, pure evil that is!” During the Android 19 fight.
@J-Editing
@J-Editing 2 ай бұрын
People just sometimes look at only one thing and ignore the other things.
@dylanboswell9975
@dylanboswell9975 2 ай бұрын
Been loving he Ultimate Tenkaichi OST in your videos recently, though BT3 is always welcome ❤
@verageraid
@verageraid 2 ай бұрын
Pure evel is still pure
@hehe_2957
@hehe_2957 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I just saw this insane video saying why he’s a sympathetic villain and that he was a good boy if only he was just given a chance! It literally broke my brain. Seriously it’s literally true that dragon ball fans don’t read and haven’t watched their own show.
@iamtheghosty
@iamtheghosty 2 ай бұрын
I like zamasu!!!!
@bighomieglo423
@bighomieglo423 2 ай бұрын
Said no one lame ever
@iamtheghosty
@iamtheghosty 5 күн бұрын
@@bighomieglo423 well who do you like?
@youngOGTelly
@youngOGTelly 2 ай бұрын
Budokai Tenkaichi 3 OST High and Scream in the background is perfect for this short👌💯
@Dylpowerup
@Dylpowerup 2 ай бұрын
There's actually at least two scenes depicting zamasu with the tea. The first scene shows the tea being clear that begins to cloud when he begins opening up about his feelings towards mortals. The other scene depicts zamasu with the same clouded tea as he continues to express his doubts about mortals but at the end of the scene it shows the tea become perfectly clear despite him holding his ground, implying despite his views of mortals he's pure of heart.
@mehulraj4740
@mehulraj4740 2 ай бұрын
Well he actually have a pure heart...pure evil heart.
@seventyfourty
@seventyfourty 2 ай бұрын
My heart is pure. Pure, unadulterated, BADASS!
@MarkoBudisa-b8n
@MarkoBudisa-b8n 2 ай бұрын
Nah zamasu has a pure heart,he made the plan where mortals stop existing
@Morfalicious
@Morfalicious 2 ай бұрын
That “High and Scream” soundtrack you got playing from BT3 is a classic!
@Animesaga376
@Animesaga376 2 ай бұрын
This world deserves Goku ❎ This world deserves Goku Black ✅
@reddragon100
@reddragon100 2 ай бұрын
So you love H*tler
@JamalJackson-bc7rp
@JamalJackson-bc7rp 12 күн бұрын
Well he is pure by his logic by thinking it’s what’s best for the universe
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 2 ай бұрын
Zamasu has a pure heart. He stole it from goku
@Radkeyboard7984
@Radkeyboard7984 2 ай бұрын
lol
@oofNorman
@oofNorman 2 ай бұрын
Zamasu is pure of heart! Zamasu: Those stupid mortals need to know their place
@Cameron_Pratt
@Cameron_Pratt 2 ай бұрын
@@oofNorman Fans: “hE’s pUrE, jUsT pUrE eViL.”
@Fate-forever
@Fate-forever 2 ай бұрын
Confirmed here folks. If Zamasu isn't pure hearted, he ain't surviving Stardust Breaker/Soul Punisher.
@EternalAnkh
@EternalAnkh 2 ай бұрын
Well, he's immortal, but if he wasn't...
@Fate-forever
@Fate-forever 2 ай бұрын
@@EternalAnkh That true but doesn't Soul Punisher earse all evil in a being? That's just my thinking. Maybe it only works on mortals.
@InfernoCleric384
@InfernoCleric384 2 ай бұрын
Would be true if "Soul Punisher" was actually able to cleanse. No statement in sub ever says that Stardust Breaker is able to do such a thing; it is only implied by a statement in the Movie 12 dub, which isn't much more accurate than the poorly translated work Funimation was generally putting out at the time. Stardust Breaker is just a glittery ki ball, nothing special. Vegetto would have gotten good use out of the technique if it had said ability.
@tatohayanami9156
@tatohayanami9156 2 ай бұрын
​@@InfernoCleric384 We saw Gogeta erasing Janemba but not the teen oni he had inside
@Shiny__Eevee
@Shiny__Eevee 2 ай бұрын
​@@tatohayanami9156 true but here's a issue.......NOT CANNON
@littlebee1659
@littlebee1659 2 ай бұрын
he was right tho. That's why Zamasu is my fav db villain
@thebeginster
@thebeginster 2 ай бұрын
Carthu, after killing the barbarian, his tea once again turned pure when he found clarity in his beliefs. Zamasu is pure hearted but it's because he believes in his ideals as genuinely good.
@CarthusDojo
@CarthusDojo 2 ай бұрын
I think you're misunderstanding the scene. Gowasu looks as the tea twists until eventually settling, but ultimately asks for a fresh cup. Purity in that moment is supposed to be still under question and ultimately he isn't pure.
@thebeginster
@thebeginster 2 ай бұрын
@@CarthusDojo See the thing is when he poured the tea it started out cloudy. Then when he started spouting his beliefs, it didn't settle or anything. It just glowed and turned pure and the show even went out of its way to focus on that happening. Even Gowasu took note of this. And when he continued to prattle on, the tea never became cloudy again. And while it's from external material, it's important to note that on the game DB Fusions, Zamasu has the ability "pure heart" where he's unaffected by the devilmite beam.
@donnataescoffin9988
@donnataescoffin9988 2 ай бұрын
Even we go by that logic. The red cherry blossoms are a clear indicator of his impurity.
@HistoryStrongest616
@HistoryStrongest616 2 ай бұрын
I feel like the Tea only twists as his heart becomes impure as his heart begins to change ideals and doesn't calm down until he either stops thinking that way or thinks only that way keeping himself pure to the single idea.
@treshun39
@treshun39 2 ай бұрын
His heart is pure Pure unadulterated badass
@Mist
@Mist 2 ай бұрын
The English dub actually mistranslated alot. Zamasu was never evil and the version of Zamasu Goku, Vegeta and Trunks fought was actually Krillin from truck's timeline because he was jealous that Goku was stronger than him
@bighomieglo423
@bighomieglo423 2 ай бұрын
But wasn’t he planning to kill innocents?
@breadisyummy_
@breadisyummy_ 2 ай бұрын
damn, krillin really used the super dragon balls to get hair?
@BlueStinger475
@BlueStinger475 2 ай бұрын
Ah yes, my favorite character. T R U C K S
@willdgol7501
@willdgol7501 22 күн бұрын
Never said anything about a good heart just a pure heart
@brandonwoodward9515
@brandonwoodward9515 2 ай бұрын
But he does have a pure heart. A pure evil heart
@michaelle7092
@michaelle7092 2 ай бұрын
like vegita did when he first got super saiyan. He even claimed it was pure evil
@Cameron_Pratt
@Cameron_Pratt 2 ай бұрын
@@brandonwoodward9515 Kinto-Un: “Sorry buddy, that ain’t gonna fly. Pun intended.”
@JayTheMan654
@JayTheMan654 2 ай бұрын
His heart is pure… Pure, unadulterated, BADASS
@RandomCarGuy17
@RandomCarGuy17 2 ай бұрын
More like pure, unadulterated ego.
@Xinocho-Mito
@Xinocho-Mito 2 ай бұрын
​@@RandomCarGuy17 I HEARD THAT, TRI-CLOPS
@the_herobriner683
@the_herobriner683 9 күн бұрын
One of these days i wanna see the 'pure of heart' trope subverted by the BBEG being pure in the evil direction
@ayan_okoji016
@ayan_okoji016 2 ай бұрын
Bro forgot that the tea again becomes light coloured which makes him pure hearted
@CarthusDojo
@CarthusDojo 2 ай бұрын
read pinned
@Fury.Bowser1
@Fury.Bowser1 2 ай бұрын
@@CarthusDojo Telling people to read the pinned comment doesn't make you right.
@champgaminghero
@champgaminghero 2 ай бұрын
@@Fury.Bowser1Why? It is a perfect counter to op’s comment.
@Fury.Bowser1
@Fury.Bowser1 2 ай бұрын
@@champgaminghero No it isn't. Telling someone to read your one, singular, static , unchanging OPINION is not how you disprove anything. Question for you: how do those boots taste?
@billy75chook80
@billy75chook80 2 ай бұрын
You forget the statement where it says the zamasu would survive the devil mite beam since he's pure ​@CarthusDojo
@chronred8190
@chronred8190 2 ай бұрын
that does make me wonder what my heart would be considered like, or yours-
@machineboyrecroom
@machineboyrecroom 2 ай бұрын
“Pure Heart” my butt, the dude hates mortals and stole Goku’s body. Is that Pure Hearted to you guys because to me that’s just Bastardizing.
@Cameron_Pratt
@Cameron_Pratt 2 ай бұрын
@@machineboyrecroom According to fans, “pure heart doesn’t mean good, it means you think beyond a doubt what you’re doing is good.” That’s so freaking stupid. By that dumb logic, Hitler had a pure heart, and everyone knows that guy was evil.
@moondare4836
@moondare4836 Ай бұрын
​@@Cameron_Pratt I mean technically if Hitler saw what he was doing was good and he didn't do what he did out of evil then yes he would be pure of heart yes the things he was doing were evil but he just didn't see it that way. Obviously he knew what he was doing was evil he knew it wasn't good he didn't do it for good and if he does something out of evil in his heart then yes he's not pure of heart but if he does something because he thinks it's good and not out of evil then yes that would make him pure of heart because he doesn't see his actions as evil he didnt do what he does out of evil he does it because he thinks it's the right thing to do he thinks it's a good thing to do but others see it as evil. But obviously what he did in real life was out of evil and he know it was evil so yeah Hitler aint pure
@lucasthebigl
@lucasthebigl 22 күн бұрын
@@Cameron_Prattin Marvel, the character Dr Doom goes infront of a deity that judges beings and how pure they are so they can go somewhere or whatever. He takes off all of his clothes, goes up against the being who says “you actions are questionable but your will is undeniable” mind you Doom is a vilain but he still is pure of heart
@getgood9244
@getgood9244 2 ай бұрын
He *had* a pure heart he does not anymore
@Awkhalil_7
@Awkhalil_7 2 ай бұрын
He does have a pure heart. A pure evil one.
@markisreal775
@markisreal775 2 ай бұрын
ok?
@AstraWonder
@AstraWonder 9 күн бұрын
The legends say it can only be ridden by someone pure, it never said pure good
@gojirarex5138
@gojirarex5138 2 ай бұрын
the tea goes back to being fully pure once zamas is fully confident in his plan. It's as direct with him being pure again as could be. How could you miss this?
@CarthusDojo
@CarthusDojo 2 ай бұрын
read pinned
@CircusFreakyt
@CircusFreakyt 9 күн бұрын
Something ive always noticed is that a pure heart can be anything, as long as it is pure. Pure evil, pure good, pure ignorance, pure divinity, pure lust... anything can be pure.
@uigokublack2478
@uigokublack2478 2 ай бұрын
Okay I wasn't expecting such a bad take from you, but here we go. The tea clouds not because of the twistedness of the Zero Mortals plan but because Zamasu was unsure of himself, the gods, and mortals. You forgot that when Zamasu becomes certain of destroying all mortals the tea become clear again. Being Pure of Heart doesn't mean being good. It means being certain what you're doing is good with all your heart.
@theganjavape1618
@theganjavape1618 2 ай бұрын
Gotta always look at a persons’ actions. SUPER Broly was kindhearted and even reserved but was looked at as the “bad guy” of his respective movie all the way up until he was hit with Gogeta’s Soul Punisher. Gogeta smiled when he realized it didn’t kill Broly as he is indeed pure hearted and has no intent on killing. Meanwhile Zamasu on the other hand was brought up with a Supreme Kai but his actions behind the scenes is what sealed his fate as an evil doer wanting to intentionally kill off mortals. Don’t judge a book by its cover, folk 🥃
@androidsenpai1462
@androidsenpai1462 2 ай бұрын
Respect for the pronunciations of Zamasu and Gowasu’s names. It’s like, I don’t think many people are aware that that’s how the actual word is said.
@josemembreno3134
@josemembreno3134 2 ай бұрын
with a transliteration like that, can ya blame em?
@androidsenpai1462
@androidsenpai1462 2 ай бұрын
@@josemembreno3134 I mean, “GowuhSUE” and “ZamaSUE” was just laziness on FUNimation’s part, so no, not really.
@crono276
@crono276 2 ай бұрын
@@androidsenpai1462 I mean, they already changed other characters names like Krillin and Tien.
@androidsenpai1462
@androidsenpai1462 2 ай бұрын
@@crono276 Those names came from the fact that DBZ was first dubbed in 1996, which wasn’t exactly the best time for faithful anime dubs in general, so I give those a pass. The problem there is that FUNimation refused to correct them in Dragon Ball Kai or Super, and hell, for the first time, even had them be called that in the subs when Super started.
@acejumper1681
@acejumper1681 Ай бұрын
The scenes where the tea was clouded shows that zamasu was conflicted in what he wanted to believe about his view of mortals, that tea soon became as clear as crystal when his zero mortal ideology really formed after the trip to planet barbari.
@OneTrueChris
@OneTrueChris 2 ай бұрын
After zamas comes to the realization that mortal are born of malice and need to be exterminated, the tea clears, so he is still pure hearted because he truly believes that what he is doing is justice. In a sense he is right, but does it in the worst way imaginable. Also this might be a bit of a stretch, but in the game dragon ball fusions, zamasu takes no damage from the devilmite beam or the soul punisher from that matter, moves that literally kill you if there is even a drop of malice in your heart
@chuviis3508
@chuviis3508 2 ай бұрын
Ah yes being inter-dimensional egoistical psychopath torturing a random dude for years who used a time machine to warn about the safety of their planet is apparently pure hearted because believes so. So now y all claiming that the German dictator from WW2 is also pure hearted because he believes his actions are good for him, which makes him selfish?
@OneTrueChris
@OneTrueChris 2 ай бұрын
@@chuviis3508 You obviously didn't read the comment thoroughly but you know what they say about the majority of DBZ fans. I am saying that, Zamasu was caring so single-mindedly for the development of the universes that he is utterly convinced that the ends justify the means and thus unable to see the inherent evil of his actions thus making him pure but awfully misguided. That's the difference between Zamasu and your comparison to Hitler for some odd reason
@chuviis3508
@chuviis3508 2 ай бұрын
​@@OneTrueChris not really. your point literally falls apart when not only the dude's a hypocrite but spent half of him entire fucking life time torturing a random dude who with a time machine while fucking around with humans rather than just executing his goals. Also taking FUSIONS as a basis does not count since they're not meant to be taken seriously, so no. You fall also in the same category as DBZ fans.
@OneTrueChris
@OneTrueChris 2 ай бұрын
@@chuviis3508 Goku black's goal wasn't to fuck with trunks. He wanted to exterminate all mortals from earth as fast as possible in order and preserve the planet for his "utopia". Trunks always made it out either by luck, or with the help of Mai and her militia stalling him ( if you don't believe me, Goku and Vegeta almost got killed by zamasu and Goku black in episode 56 and Mai literally rescued them by throwing tear gas at them. Each mortal he comes across, he exterminates. Trunks is no exception.
@Z-MOON
@Z-MOON 2 ай бұрын
carthu you are my goat
@AceKaliburOfficial
@AceKaliburOfficial 2 ай бұрын
His heart actually is pure. Pure evil.
@johnnywafflevision
@johnnywafflevision 2 ай бұрын
He's just got a twisted sense of justice. Once he let those intrusive thoughts win, he probably lost the ability, not that he even needs the flying nimbus.
@painebatke9144
@painebatke9144 2 ай бұрын
He still pure of heart. Being pure of heart doesn’t just mean having good intentions. So maybe but I doubt it , The tea was to portray his heart being corrupted by his ideas but regained purity once again after gaining clarity of mind.
@JustAFanGirl671
@JustAFanGirl671 7 күн бұрын
He has pure heart. It’s pure with hatred
@ianfinrir8724
@ianfinrir8724 2 ай бұрын
If he's so pure hearted then let's see him ride the Flying Nimbus.
@Seth-eq2ot
@Seth-eq2ot 2 ай бұрын
THANK YOU
@makairidah8354
@makairidah8354 2 ай бұрын
In the words from one of the most influential detectives in this era. "Cool motive! Still murder."
@ryanhickson6399
@ryanhickson6399 2 ай бұрын
The zero mortal plan was basically dragon balls holocaust
@supersonic2175
@supersonic2175 2 ай бұрын
Finally someone proves that Zamasu isn’t pure of heart the misconception people have is a bit disappointing
@Zenkai-9k
@Zenkai-9k 2 ай бұрын
The tea became clear again after he was fully convinced that he had to kill all mortals, meaning his heart is pure
@Taoshinhan453
@Taoshinhan453 2 ай бұрын
Believe me, Zamasu's heart is exceptionally pure Pure evil to the core
@EnbyVess
@EnbyVess 2 ай бұрын
I find it hilarious that the tea could feel Zamasu start to think about genocide and immediately went “Nevermind I don’t like you”
@UI_Shaggy05
@UI_Shaggy05 2 ай бұрын
People only say that Zamasu has a pure heart because he's 100% convinced that what he's doing is the right thing.
@generalbutterscotch4887
@generalbutterscotch4887 2 ай бұрын
I genuinely don't understand why people would think this when the EVIL CONTAINMENT WAVE literally worked on him a few episodes later
@revya4294
@revya4294 2 ай бұрын
I wanted to make sure if this was true but all the sites I see say it can be used on anyone and not just evil.
@technnicalvapor007
@technnicalvapor007 2 ай бұрын
Alternative title: "Zamasu can't be Killed by Gogeta's Soul Punisher."
@KartoffelXP20XS
@KartoffelXP20XS 8 күн бұрын
Later the Tea cleared when he truly believed in his Zero Mortal Plan
@SuperSayianYuri
@SuperSayianYuri 2 ай бұрын
A genocide planning killer that was in a state of ecstasy after killing the barbarian. Truly full heartily believing in something doesn’t make it pure.
@scarllier9467
@scarllier9467 2 ай бұрын
Gowasu saying Zamasu is pure of heart is kind of akin to a parent saying "my child would do no such thing"
@tahamoukhliss8420
@tahamoukhliss8420 2 ай бұрын
I personally interpret a "Pure Heart" as someone that does things with no malice or thought to the harm it will do to others. Something that Zamasu and Black are clearly aware of.
@Zeni.1s
@Zeni.1s 2 ай бұрын
Zamasu had a pure heart. Goku Black, doesn't
@TheMethodFake
@TheMethodFake 2 ай бұрын
Bruh carthu arguing about this makes me feel sad
@genesismultiverse4896
@genesismultiverse4896 2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say taking a life as pure heart
@EpochMakerCJ
@EpochMakerCJ Ай бұрын
W in-laws for sure, glad Keiko had those 2 in her life. But shame on the ex and his mistress.
@wnnfs9423
@wnnfs9423 Ай бұрын
What Gowasu said in the beginning of the arc before Zamasu even became a villain is the same reason people say that Gogeta’s Soul Punisher/Stardust Breaker wouldn’t work on him, which I find to be a stupid reason that ignores the very concept of character development.
@alfonsovidal1759
@alfonsovidal1759 2 ай бұрын
Zamasu:"i am puré. Puré, unadoctirated, divinity"
@creamery299
@creamery299 2 ай бұрын
I've read a comment once and i liked how he could have a pute heart. I don't know the exact words but it was something along the lines of "We can't judge beings above human morality because they are divine beings and not humans"
@Eric6761
@Eric6761 2 ай бұрын
Yes you can, being a higher being doesn't justify actions besides, what about a ton of the kais
@brawl8
@brawl8 2 ай бұрын
Thank you. Seriously after what he did to the timeline and killing all the kais. People are going to argue his heart is pure. Zamasu heart was in conflict. The tea is proof. Which is why Gowasu had him poor it constantly. It’s part of his test to become a supreme Kai. To have a pure heart. Maintain that pure and calm heart as the Kai’s are not to interfere with mortals and must remain impartial. The object of the tea was to pour a clear brew. If his heart was impure the tea will ripple and taste sour. You can see zamazu inner conflict about mortals effect the tea. It’s because he was always in conflict with his ideas of justice that the tea always rippled back and forth
@imstupid880
@imstupid880 2 ай бұрын
"Oh, but my heart *is* pure. Pure -badass- evil."
@TheLegendOfLame
@TheLegendOfLame 2 ай бұрын
I was thinking when people were saying he had a pure heart that a lot of people were claiming it was pure - but purely evil.
@Animesaga376
@Animesaga376 2 ай бұрын
Zamasu's Heart was pure for Dieties but it was Evil for mortals
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