Buying .300 Blackout in 2024 Still Stupid?

[@wellsbibo6175]

The way I look at it, 300 BLK wasn't developed to replace or unseat any other rifle cartridge. It was developed as a more lethal alternative to 9MM sub guns. In that context, and within the parameters of a small, maneuverable, and quiet CQB weapon, it excels. If it weren't for cost and SBR/suppressor tax stamp requirements, 300 BLK ought to be the more sought after cartridge for 99% of civilian personal defense scenarios.

[@daltongarrett7117]

2 things plausible factors make cost the only factor and they are Texans don't need the suppressor stamp and ar pistols fix the other part. I just bought an ar in 300 bo as my first rifle.

[@JoeWayne84]

Everyone should have a AR pistol in 300aac it’s the modern day MP5 just more effective and extremely affordable. 300 aac guns shouldn’t have barrels over 10 inches in my opinion the best it 7.5 you get plenty of velocity to make those Barnes bullets expand beautifully and a 10 year old can ring a steel 6” plate put to 100 yards with a red dot sight on it. As far as the suppressor that’s if you have the money then hell yeah but subsonics or going to be less effective and kill your overall range . I’ve switched back to a linear compensator on mine with supersonic ammo and if you don’t have time to grab your ear protection it will greatly reduce the ear ringing effect and although I wouldn’t recommend always doing it in a matter of self defense sure you’ll be fine . Also I live half a mile from a neighbor if god forbid I had to fire my subcompact rifle caliber defensive gun in middle of the night to defend myself I’d like to draw some attention. Now if I was going hog hunting at night then I want my suppressor and I still wear my ear pro then even .

[@TheCosmicGuy0111]

@@JoeWayne84 8.5 inches better

[@darthtyranus7683]

@@JoeWayne84 disagree a plus P 9mm will be plenty effective if you pitch a .300 to modern Soviet Body armor it's going to likely bounce off same as the 9mm

[@darthtyranus7683]

"More lethal alternative to 9mm sub guns" ... by what margin penetration? Velocity? Every hallway your clearing your going to find that 9mm NATO grain is plenty lethal enough

[@NotCheezzy]

Nutn, still loving your channel over 10 years later. Honesty goes a long way. Keep killing it. Love all you guys in TNP.

[@clamum9648]

Same here, started watching big nut in late 08 or 09. Brill

[@ChrisLoew]

Ditto

[@DOLBECMAD]

Subscribe on ugetube

[@sonicnofadz]

quadruple ditto, keep on keepin' on

[@Alex-mo9qt]

Same here! Literally grew up watching these videos! And ten years later my spare bedroom room looks like a fully stocked cabelas store lol

[@TacticalDoodle]

Hey, remember when we kept hearing that everyone would be running 6.8 SPC or Grendel as their main AR? That was only a few years ago. Before that, we were supposedly gonna pitch all our DI AR's and replace them with pistons. Well, aside from the die hard HK dudes, the rest of my circle is all direct gas! What other industry predictions are wrong?

[@Hanibul_Lecktor]

1)Man made climate change 2)Paper masks protect you from a virus 3)2020 election was totally legit 4)Disney will always make great movies 😆🤣😂

[@clcare5563]

.223 is so prolific because of its price. 6.5 or 6.8 are great for hunting but I don’t see people having 1,000 of rounds on hand. It’s too much money!

[@Ratkill9000]

I don't think .308 is totally out for long range shooting. Sure the 6.5 Creedmoor is good, but if your shooting out long range, sometimes its nice to have a caliber that will kick up enough dust so you can make adjustments.

[@Ratkill9000]

@@clcare5563 depends on the 6.5. If its 6.5 Grendal, yeah barely anybody has any, price is still high and finding it sucks. 6.8 had a lack of solid marketing. But 6.5 Creedmoor (not the one being discussed though) is highly popular and ticks a lot of the boxes where most niche calibers don't hit.

[@clcare5563]

@@Ratkill9000 definitely not talking about creedmoor just talking about ar calibers

[@mannamedbanjo]

I don't think everyone is going to agree with the use of .300 no or it's capabilities. But the great thing is the range of use in ammo selection. suppression, and longer or shorter barrels. You really need a "primary" rifle and then a 300 bo as supplementary.

[@ronws2007]

13:32 Primers are hard to find because ammo companies are holding on to them to complete orders. The guy in charge of Hornady made a video saying that very thing. In order for Hornady and Federal to complete the outstanding orders they have, it is necessary to keep as many primers as they can make. So, in the market for reloaders and hand loaders, parts and pieces are scarce. Biden, the greatest gun salesman whoever lived.

[@omardevonlittle3817]

@Patrick Henry only dummies dont realize Obama preserved more gun rights than Trump... he even sent guns to the cartels so they could kill eachother faster.... (it worked)

[@greatlakespowerstrokefx4]

Once they catch up components will be plentiful again. People should have planned ahead in the 4 years everything was overstocked

[@ronws2007]

@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 Quite true. And I imagine a number of us will not make the same mistake again. Keep buying when stuff is dirt cheap. But buy for your system. If you are already hip deep into AR-15 platform, keep buying for that. If you started in AK-47 or any variant piston gun for 7.62 x 39 mm, then yeah, stick with that. I just checked and a few of my sources are still providing and selling .224 Valkyrie at reasonable prices. Perhaps it has better external ballistics than even .223 Rem and that might be a reason to gear up for it. However, one of my bosses who is a trained marksman (from his early days) did hit dead center of target with his AR-15 in 5.56 x 45 mm NATO with a scope at 850 yards, in a wind. He had dialed up and then held over and made it. Certainly, you can do that with .224 Valkyrie, too. And if I were just starting, it would be tempting. But I still prefer super-common rounds. For example, I love the feel and usefulness of .308 Win, which I can find anywhere in the world. Same with .223 Rem. Even my AR-15 is universal, in a word. It is the Windham Weaponry M4A3 Dissipator. the bolt carrier group is M-16. If I needed parts and found a dumped M-16, there you go. 4150 chrome-lined barrel. Sweet. Combat zero from the factory.

[@JRock3091]

Because I'm gonna trust some corpo who is beholden to government contracts...............

[@jeanwesleynew]

Obama/Biden/Clinton have sold more guns than were produced in 1950's CommBlok countries. ...and "Beto" is running a close 2nd.

[@donh1572]

Living in crowded urban New York. 300 blackout has some nice advantages regarding quietness and compactness

[@Xtroll1738]

The main reason I have any 300 Blackout is my AR pistols are 300 Blackout. I bought the AR pistol for traveling on my motorcycle because it will fit in my saddle bag. Another reason is I'm not a believer of the 5.56 ammo performing well out of a pistol length barrel. To me the 300 Blackout makes more sense in the pistol platform. I do have one 300 Blkout AR rifle for hunting purposes. As for mixing up magazines, I use tan magazines for 300 BKout exclusively and when I am loading them, I do not have any 5.56 ammo anywhere near. Also my magazines are loaded before I go to the range. I also have tan furniture only on my 300 Blkouts as a reminder of tan magazines go with tan on the firearm. Like Nuttin, my main defensive rifles are 5.56 and that is the majority of my ammo.

[@Marcus2750-u1t]

Yeah there is so much BULLCRAP in this video and he is wrong in a lot of this…… good for you man 300 is great and everything you said is true! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@davidblackman1586]

I have a speed loader for my 5.56mm and it takes about 30s to load 40 into my extended. Really cool. But also makes it really easy to spend a ton of money on ammo. Same speed loader works for my .308 as well :)

[@Hybris51129]

I have similar logic for a up coming AR pistol build that I am considering only in either .458 SOCOM or .50 Beowulf as I have the reloading dies and parts for those already.

[@dandantheman9960]

Pretty much exactly minus the motorcycle 😔 redundancy

[@lightfighter3023]

This round was meant to work in weapons with the same manual of arms as the M4 but with a mission set that was more akin to the mp5. It was designed to be very short barreled and suppressed and never intended for mid range engagement. It hits like an AK, not a 9mm, and It's really good out to 250. It's a very specific tool for a very specific purpose. To judge it on the general merits of the 556 or 762 x 39 is not a good comparison. It's an expensive specialty item that now sees more engagement with hogs than people.

[@big.toe.8885]

agreed, surprised there was no mention of barrel length when that seemed to be the whole point of the caliber

[@TacticalDoodle]

Kind of, but in the civilian market most people don't really hold to that same performance envelope. There are a lot of .300 blk pistols running around, but a TON of 16" rechambered AR's and derivatives. Most people don't want the hassle of a true SBR, so they either compromise with a braced pistol that's pretty short to begin with, or get a long rifle and say they'll get around to cutting it down and getting the stamp sometime, someday, maybe..... In the civilian market, we don't get full access to use gear and kit as intended. Kinda like how we don't get the as-designed, rightful ammo for the 5.7x28, or the full spectrum of utility for a semiauto .50. They can design it for whatever they want, but if there are significant hurdles for the average civvie shooter, they'll most often avoid them.

[@codywhitney3404]

Guys come on, the 7.62x39 has good ballistics in short barrels too. The only reason is too shoot something comparable, reliably, in an ar15. Which for whatever reason 7.62x39 doesn't do very well. The idea of using subsonics is stupid, why not use 9mm subsonic? If you reduce the velocity that much it's literally the equivalent. The round is a gimmick.

[@sixtofive]

@@codywhitney3404 Why not use a 9mm sub sonic? Because you're using a bullet that's nearly double the weight in a 300 blk sub sonic. The energy delivered to the target will be substantially higher. Personally, if we're discussing defensive loads, I still prefer the high velocity 110 gr loads. In sub sonic loads you're still getting power equivalent to max load 45 colt or mid range 44 magnum. At the end of the day it comes down to personal preference. 9mm will still be very effective if you do your part and put the shots where they need to go.

[@CoryRizzMMA]

Nutn states that it is a really good round. Just that for his POU the 5.56 works best. He also says that if you want to use it cool as it is a great system. If you live in a terrain where distance is not an issue, I don't, then the 300 is much more of a great overall system. Pretty easy to make the argument that in a city it is better than the 5.56 or 7.62x39. The only thing that kills it up to this point is cost. Can you afford to feed it? And if you can would you be better off with 4 rounds of 5.56 or 7.62 to each 300? Hopefully the cost comes more in line.

[@JL-pj6kk]

If 300blk ever gets as common and to the cost of 5.56, I will shoot 300blk almost exclusively. However the chances of that happening is basically zero, so it will be saved as a specialty round, that is used for very specific purposes. Great gun for young/new shooters with subsonics, suppressed.

[@waddawaddayup518]

It will never be as common. Like ever

[@snek9353]

Might happen sooner than most think. As long as 5.56 is the NATO cartridge it'll be cheaper. But 300BLK is getting very popular, pre-plandemic is was getting pretty darn cheap, and now Wolf sells steel case 300BLK. Then if the military does switch to this 6.8 they're looking at 5.56 prices will go up as well. 300BLK will always be more expensive to make simply because there's more bullet. But the price difference could soon be negligible.

[@newerest1]

if you reload there's no reason to not go with 300 blackout. reload a couple hundred to a thousand with cast bullets for training, a couple hundred of some nice projectiles for home defense. keep training at a even higher volume with 22lr/5.56. there's really no reason to not go with a 300 blackout for home defense

[@hackmedia7755]

There is nothing really special about the 300BLK round when you think about reloading. The case is a trimmed 5.56 case. The bullet is really a 308 bullet. The problem is primers and it's the same problem for everything right now. If you don't want to reload then it's easy to stick with 7.62x39.

[@JL-pj6kk]

@@hackmedia7755 subsonic + super fast twist rates like 1:5. I hate Q as a company, but the owner has done a lot for development of 300blk. Companies like Sig are now using 1:5 twist, and other companies like discreet ballistics and Lehigh are making monolithic bullets designed to expand at subsonic velocities. You go from a 200ish grain bullet from subsonic and switch to a Barnes 110 tac load you now have a cartridges with similar ballistics to a 7.62x39. Within 100 yards, out of an 8” barrel Barnes tac 110gr beats a mk262 77gr OTM out of a 10.3 barrel. Think backpack gun/truck gun. It’s not a cartridge for everything. If Barnes 110 wasn’t $40 a box I’d make it work for just about anything. But for a small concealable rifle/pistol. 300blk beats PCC on performance and it beats 556 in the same size gun. Cool thing about 300blk too is for training, 556 recoil is about the same and again within 100 yards POI is going to be negligible between the two. So it’s not like you have stock up thousands of rounds for it, just enough to train every once in awhile and to keep ready to go.

[@Spessforce]

My POU is that in a without rule of law situation, I need a compact suppressed weapon that is very lethal against generally unarmored people within 100 yards. With that POU, it is hard to beat a 5 to 9 inch Sig MCX in 300 BLK that I can fold and keep in a backpack. I can have magazines of very quiet subsonic ammo, and quickly swap it to a magazine of supersonics that punch a bit harder and still benefit from suppression. Yeah I am not storing as much ammo, but if we will need 5000+ rounds for a long term SHTF, I can switch to a more economical weapon.

[@saucywings]

I doubt anyone will live through 5000 rounds anyways

[@granitejeepc3651]

If your target scenario is within 100 yards unarmored and want surpressed---then 9mm carbine will do the same damn thing.

[@saucywings]

@Rob Hunter facts. 1000 rounds will run you almost 1000 bucks for 300blk rn. my mcx EATS

[@paulm5762]

@Rob Hunter 300 AAC is a cakewalk to reload.. and you can take your "spent" .223 cases and rework them into 300 AAC very easily.. Just sayin...

[@jjgriffin3275]

AR Pistol 9MM for backpack with lots of mags ready to go in this scenario under 100 yds on unarmored personnel.

[@wanneroo7106]

I do a lot of experimenting with 300 Blackout on my channel and will continue to do so. It’s a handloaders cartridge so if you don’t want to do that it’s probably not for you. The advantage is you can adapt just about any .30 cal bullet to it and it uses regular magnum pistol powders. It’s generally easy to load for and some 110g loadings will exceed or equal 7.62x39. If you want you can make your own brass out of 5.56. Standard AR parts work and interchange. In the end it’s a fine 0-200 yard cartridge.

[@mometal0519]

I really like 300 blk but I’m overly cautious about getting the rounds mixed up in a 556 rifle. 300 blk and 556 never have the same range day. Different mags and different colored mags for each. The rifles are also marked by color.

[@TacticalDoodle]

We had that convo in the patreon. I think for the primary trigger men in the family it's a non-issue, but I'd really, really go out of my way to blatantly mark anything possible in case any non-enthusiasts in the family end up using the kit. Just seems like it's not impossible that even non-streessful things like the wife loaning her friend's husband your AR could result in some fun barrel swelling.

[@amsb4dafunk406]

Wilson Combat created a solution With The 7.62X40WT The extra 1 millimeter Prevents KaBooms. But It didn't catch on.

[@mometal0519]

@@TacticalDoodle agreed. For the roles my 300’s fill, if my wife were to use it, it only needs to have enough on board ammo to last long enough to make it to an evidence locker.

[@TxpNoveske]

Yeah I mark my mags for 300 and make sure they dont get mixed up.

[@jasminebebe3455]

@@TacticalDoodle Different mag types is my solution... PMAG 556 and Lancer 300

[@ar-15techtipsinunder5minut8]

nutnfancy is best gun channel on youtube!, PERIOD!

[@charleschristianson2730]

I got into 300 BLK about 7 years ago on two conditions: 1) I started reloading (and yes I actually do it), and 2) I started running cans. 300 makes sense under those conditions. And no, I'm not at all worried about accidently jamming a 300 round in one of my 5.56 guns. Just gotta be careful....

[@michaelalan6459]

I did the exact same thing as you BUT believe me, it IS possible to mix ammo, even when being careful. I've done it and like to believe I'm not a complete idiot.

[@Iceaxehikes]

A youtuber did that very thing by accident. Blew the guts right out of the magazine well and destroyed the upper, bcg. He is okay. Worst part, was somebody elses rifle.

[@jasminebebe3455]

@@michaelalan6459 My solution for that is different magazine types for each round. I use PMAG for 556 and Lancer for 300

[@snek9353]

It also helps if you avoid light pointy 300BLK bullets. Big expanding bullets won't chamber nearly as easily the bullet has to be pushed in too far.

[@dustincamello8337]

I run 300 BO as my primary, 5.56 as my backup. I color code my mags; FDE for 300 BO, black for 5.56. I reload 300 BO super and sub, right now I can still load supers for about the price of 5.56. Subs for plinking are significantly cheaper to load.

[@joelscoggin1273]

I have color coded rubber bands on my mags for supers and subs. No mix ups

[@joelwolfe]

I am glad he did this video to keep all his fanboys away from 300AAC.

[@joelwolfe]

I’ll say it again 300AAC really doesn’t make sense unless you reload (and maybe run suppressed too)

[@jaycoy107]

@@joelwolfe I've reloaded since 1985 and on top of that, I own two s!!encer$ that will work great with the 300AAC, and yet until about a week ago, I had zero interest in the 300AAC blackout because of the very opinions you've expressed here. I have to agree with your assessment of this round. Who really needs it? BUT, I'm going to give it a try, because? Merica!! That's why! I don't actually need a reason so I just jumped and bought an upper (10.5"), 500 208gr projectiles, and 500 cases because it's something to do. I hope it doesn't suck. I think that a very quiet bangy thingy, throwing 208gr BTHP match thingys flying straight and true? Just may be a great coyote calling round, for calling at night on my acreage? We'll see. I can call predators here year round from home made elevated blinds, so I'm looking forward to it. If it (300BO) doesn't suck, then I will have gotten a renewed interest in reloading and experimenting. After enough decades of varmint hunting, you find the rounds you like, (17 Hornet, .223, 22-250A.I., 22BR, 243Win, 6MM Creed) and you have all your pet loads already worked up, and you've bought your favorite components by the crap ton, and you stop experimenting. You load enough so that you can go to Southern Oregon, or Dillon MT for gophers and not run out of rounds. (My 2 sons and I once went through 16 bricks of 22LR in five days of shooting, on ONE sprinkler pivot in Montana. There were piles of poison around, and yet still there were so many gophers that we just put away the center fire rifles, and shot only 22LR. Any time you looked in your scope you could see at least eight or ten gophers, and you just picked one and shoot. Then you just sight a foot or two in any direction, line another one up and fire. Repeat and repeat all day long, day after day, and you get blisters on your fingers from refilling 10/22 magazines)

[@ZZstaff]

@ 2:37 You said that group was a 7 yards, if so, it is a HORRIBLE group. Group looks like about 1/2 inch, that would make it a 14 inch "group" at 200 yards... Now if that 1/2 inch group had been shot at 100 yards I would have called it okay.

[@beamonk]

110, 120, 125 barnes, barnes and sst bullets loaded are fantastic in .300 blk.

[@johnmorganjr769]

💯

[@kylewood8327]

I sold all my 556 rounds and went all in with 300blk a couple years ago. I call my 300 blk pistol “silent death” I run a Q Half Nelson on mine. I’ve probably got around 500 rounds of FMJ subsonic and maybe 50-75 rounds of standard pressure JHP. Love shooting this bad boy but currently only shoot it sparingly. Great video!!

[@LovesM855A1]

Its really a handloaders round to shoot it cheaply

[@bdanz5851]

Well since we’re strollin’ memory lane....can we get a revisit on 6.8 SPC and 6.5 Grendel?

[@newerest1]

those were dead in the water as a serious competitor to 5.56 as soon as people realized they would need speciality bolts and specialty magazines

[@TacticalDoodle]

Not super likely, they're pretty rare on the shelf, got edged out really. It seemed like they had a real shot there for a while, with rumors of SOCOm dudes running around with 6.8, but nothing really became of it. Now, the cool guy stuff is the MCX in .300, from the sound of it.

[@codygilliland752]

@@TacticalDoodle I have a Daniel Defense sbr that I use I got the 300 blk specifically for if I needed a weapon in close engagements out too 200 -250 I have it on my pack in the car at all times

[@codygilliland752]

@@TacticalDoodle but the 7.62×39 for an sbr rifle is good or the 5.56

[@marshwing4879]

I just built a 6.5 grendel and it made me smile past tense since it was also lost in a tragic boat accident. I went with the 6.5 for the same reason that makes 7.62x39 so great steel cased ammo cheap that shoot MOA out of my gun and I don't need to feel guilty doing a mag dump once and a while.

[@brazzy1467]

I have 10 thousand 5.56 77gr OTM saved but I reload. Now I started shooting the Remington Green and White box 120gr OTFB supersonic for hunting and for home defense. I started stashing it away and I was able to save up 3000 rounds. Now I started the duplication of the 120gr OTFB and I now have over 10 thousand rounds of 300 blkout. Now I started my love for the 300 blkout back in 2010 when I learned about it when I was in Afghanistan from a certain TEAM member and they love the 300 blkout. Now for deer hunting or hunting period I choose the 300 blkout. I've taken in deer, elk, black bear and I just took a pronghorn last year with my 300 blkout and I used the described ammo above. Now I have the money to buy what ever ammo I need because I don't waste my money on stupid watches. I don't own an AK-47 at all or the ammo for one. If I want one and if by chance the poop hits the fan then I'll shoot someone and take they're AK-47 with ammo. You have what works for you in the Utah desert but here in North Arkansas in the Ozarks I've got what works for me and my family. Have a blessed day.

[@jeffersonsharp2292]

Two years on and 7.62 x 39 is now unobtanium due to the war in Ukraine. My next build will be a folding, switch barrel .556 .300 blackout, suppressed, pistol/rifle convertible lightweight mission adaptable go gun. And yes, I'm going to have both calibers. I will develop a ammo handling system to reduce the risk of an ammo barrel mismatch. It will include color coding, handling, accounting, and lock away procedures. The risk will still exist but be greatly reduced. I'm not too worried about it. I may also get into 7.62 x 39, but only when/if stable global political conditions return.

[@MP-sq8ow]

[2 weeks later].... 300BLK will not be directly impacted from any Ban of Russian Mfg ammo

[@OldPackMule]

And the shortage continues.

[@Archivedcontent]

Nutn said it best when he said “it’s the best cartridge you don’t need”. I got into the AK world back when quality rifles could be had for $450 , and personally, I would take the 7.62x39 all day long over 300BO

[@TacticalDoodle]

Hard to think about the group buys I passed up when guys were buying saiga's from russia by the dozen for $250 a pop! Argh!

[@joeyoung1973]

@@TacticalDoodle can you guys do an ar 15 hunting video hear me out all the calibers that you can swap on your upper same trigger ergos also how you can sling the rifle across the body distributing the weight better

[@echodelta2172]

@@joeyoung1973 so a whole bunch of topics they've already covered a dozen times?

[@Enough_Tumbleweed]

BO costs too damn much too lol

[@d.i.m.eproductions6925]

@@Enough_Tumbleweed yep, I said ouch when I bought my first box of self defense ammo. $53 for a box of 20 made by NovX

[@billbee235]

Short answer - if it makes you happy, who cares. I don’t care for 300 BO but if you enjoy shooting it keep on doing it

[@IbanezRG570T]

I have over 5k on 300blk, I love it, you need lightweight supers and nice quiet subs. I have a 7” 1in5 twist and a 16” 1in7, super versatile

[@TxpNoveske]

I think 300 blk is great for short barrels and fairly close range. Inside 100 - 200 yard distances it will hit very hard. As far as overall system I think the 5.56 is best because it can reach out further then AK's and 300 and is readily available.

[@SurvivaLust]

For those who argue against the cost factor of the 300 aac here is my suggestion...buy you a 5.56 upper and when prices jump break out that upper but i can tell you the greatest reason to have 300 aac is the multi use application. The only difference between a 5.56 and a 300 aac is the barrel. Its the same lower, mag and bolt. How freaking cool is that.

[@joeyoung1973]

Thats what im thinkin but with 6.5 grendel so its legal to hunt with

[@SurvivaLust]

@@Sparks00psn I have encountered the same thing....my pmags work fine though.

[@HansBelphegor]

@@joeyoung1973 the 6.5g doesn't exactly fit in standard mags

[@AZTLANSOLDIER13]

Exactly, how hard is this?

[@CQCMachine]

I'm really not sure what the point of 150gr 300blk is. I'd stick with 110-120 ish or 190+gr

[@biggdogthor9310]

I remember the days I could chose what gr. I wanted. Now I get what I can.. lol

[@CQCMachine]

@@biggdogthor9310 well it's really the wrong cartridge to be dependant on when availability is scarce. I would still like a 300 shorty at some point, but I think right now is the wrong time to be shopping 300 guns and ammo

[@moshkid16]

The reason the 150gr is so popular is because its the same middle of the road bullet weight for a 308 and ammo manufacturers can easily manufacture it without changing much in the process.

[@derekadierker4931]

Great vudeo again...can go from suppressed super...ti subsonic with weapon...talked to guys who liked that flex...and felt it held it's line better in wind and in impact than 556

[@Hogre0knifenut]

Great video Nutn but I think you missed one of the big advantages of the 300BO, short barreled effeincy. A 5.5 inch barreled 300blk gun with supers can have he same energy as a 10.5 inch 5.56 and about 4x the energy of a 9mm with a 6-8 barrel. I think all your points comparing full size 300blk/7.62x39 in rifles/carbines are valid and well thought out but, at least in my understanding, 300blk SBRs was intended, and do best as, a replacement for both the Mk18 style weapons and 9mm subguns. Factoring in cost is absolutely a fair critism in this poi though.

[@fanman8102]

I wondered if anyone would say it. With the right barrel length it has the same ballistic performance as 7.62x39 in a gun that’s nearly half the length and half the weight of an AK-47. Purchase a 5.56 upper and you have a multi purpose platform. Course the cost per round is an issue if someone believes it is. If you think 300BO is cost prohibitive, you’re right.

[@cayman9873]

I dont see the value of 300 black at this point. If you shoot 300 rounds a year and buy 500 rounds ahead the cost might be acceptable.

[@TwanDelRio]

That is the best advantage of a 300 blk in my opinion. 8.5 inch 300 blk ar pistol with a 20 round in the well +3 30s running 110 gr is a lot of capability in a small light package. It's crazy he did not mention it.

[@jasminebebe3455]

@@TwanDelRio I have a LAW folder on my 10.5" and it makes an excellent backpack package. Always close to me and often on my back. I have a IIIA panel in my pack as well as a couple extra magazines and trauma kit. This size package firing 110 grain Barnes Tac TX is unbelievably potent. 2200 fps and sub moa through my Ballistic advantage barrel is nothing to sneeze at. It is definitely my choice for a bump in the night or truck gun.

[@TwanDelRio]

@@jasminebebe3455 sounds like a great set up for sure!

[@Sal-rp3gy]

Definitely the original tactical gear review channel. Been watching your stuff since I was a kid.. now that I’m 22 I definitely have a bigger Appreciation for your videos/the things you do for the gun community Keep rocking nutn!

[@lihaikun]

Great and honest review as always! I did my research and decided to skip 5.56 entirely and went for a 300 blk pistol. Fits my POU as a pack/CQC suppressed gun and I avoid mixing with 5.56. Emotional damage is real with ammo cost, but it's definitely better than before.

[@LovesM855A1]

Its really a loaders round I roll all my own dirt cheap.

[@lihaikun]

@@LovesM855A1 That's even better man!

[@LovesM855A1]

@@lihaikun yeah man once things come back down in price look into it, I bought up supplies years ok when stuff was so cheap and still shooting blkout for 10 cents a pop….. not to mention you can cast and powder coat your own projectiles its just so versatile….hopefully you have some self defense type ammo stored up for whatever that may come our way soon…..

[@MacCready_]

One thing I didn't anticipate when shooting suppressed subsonic 300 blk was that it's not impressively quiet unless you're shooting in a wide open space outdoors (like most of the shooting footage in this video). Indoor range or under a roof over an outdoor range or a range located in a swath cut in the woods or surrounded by large berms, it's actually kinda loud. Keep it in mind if you're about getting a suppressed gun to shoot 300 blk subs for the neat quiet.

[@clcare5563]

I’m like half way through realizing that I have already watched on Patreon. Keep up the good work!

[@Fordgroup00]

Why pay for something you can get for free?

[@MiamiVice.]

@@Fordgroup00 It supports the channel so they can bring us all this awesome content.

[@Fordgroup00]

@@MiamiVice. There channels though that don’t put out for free what is paid for

[@mattstarr2674]

@@Fordgroup00 Because there's videos on there you will never see

[@Fordgroup00]

@@mattstarr2674 And I personally am good with that! But when I pay for (exclusive) videos I don’t then want to see them a bit later on a free platform

[@chasejohnson1122]

300blk is a sub gun replacement. short barrels and subsonic capabilities. it is not a replacement for 5.56. i dont think you should have 300blk unless you already have a 5.56 gun

[@jasminebebe3455]

Agree... I have a 300 which I love but it is a 10.5" with a LAW folder for home defense and truck gun. If I could only do one though my 16" 5.56 would be the one.

[@Deuce_Dufresne]

300 black subs suppressed for home defense is ideal. Ripping off a 556 round in close quarters is suboptimal for your hearing.

[@alphacentary]

Idk for me a PCC can do the same for less cost. A high bullet weight sub 9mm, 40 S&W, 10mm, etc. can all fill that roll. You will likely go deaf in close quarters anyway because the other guy doing the home invading will likely fire back with super sonic rounds unless you have the, and I generally doubt this under most circumstances, element of surprise. I'm not saying 300 blk is a bad cartridge, but it attempts to be a weird jack of all trades master of none. That is the crux of the issue it excels at none of them.

[@Robnord1]

My choice (before the boating mishap) = 7.62x39 from a KS-47 10.5". Perfect for my needs; penetrates barriers/vehicles/light body armor well, loud, flashbang effect indoors, cheap ammo, battlefield pickup in WROL, and the KS-47 is good enough for this old man...not an operator.

[@MatteoSixSeventyFour]

The KS isn't bad. So long as you have a nice supply of extractors for it. Downside of a .125" bolt.

[@Robnord1]

@@MatteoSixSeventyFour Since I got the gun a couple of years ago, I've wanted to have 4 extractors and 2 bolts as spares, but PSA is only selling the complete BCG...which they're out of! 🙁 I gave em hell about it in an e-mail, but they're probably too busy to care.

[@MatteoSixSeventyFour]

@@Robnord1 Yeah that does suck. Which is why I primarily go with an AK for x39

[@MarkyMan316]

@@MatteoSixSeventyFour fired less than 100 rounds thru a brand new KS47. Broken extractor. PSA says they are at least 60+ days out on new BCGs.

[@paytonwoodruff3621]

I’m the outcast here but I run .300 blackout through a bolt gun with suppressor and thermal. When wrol occurs, I’ll be able to hunt without anyone knowing. For me, 300blk has a very purposeful role.

[@elliotjohnson9978]

Why not just use .308 sub?

[@S2Paintball]

When comparing accuracy, putting them an "identical as you can get" platform like the Ruger American Ranch rifles would be ideal

[@clamum9648]

Fo shizzle

[@alan98bert]

300 subs out of that rifle are almost Hollywood quiet.

[@danrunner84]

Out: 300 Blackout 6.5 Grendel 6.8 SPC 22 Nosler 224 Valkyrie Beowulf cartridge (can’t remember caliber) 6.0 creedmore Don’t need any of them… Timeless: 308 223/556 30-06 270 30-30 762x39 12gauge 7.62x54R

[@mattstarr2674]

50 Beowulf 25-45 Sharps 6mm Arc 6.8 Western 300 Ham'r 762x39WT

[@jonstokes5708]

Im building my .300 to be my eventual primary home defense weapon. 8” barrel and suppressed. It makes the most sense for that POU and I’d say it’s the best cartridge for that role. Until I finish my .300 build and then acquire a 30 cal can I rotate between a PS90 and a CX4 as my bedside carbine. I’m still keeping my 5.56 rifles too though.

[@lostinthewoods1026]

Going to use both 7.62x39 and 300 blackout for hunting this year (galil ace with 123 grain underwood controlled chaos at 2450 fps and custom build 10.5 in 300 black with hand loaded 120 grain tac-tx at about 2200 fps). One benefit of 300 black is the available options for projectiles. The 7.62x39 is fairly limited especially if you want something bonded or lead free. Also a huge benefit of 300 black missed in this POU is that with pistol powders the 300 black get a higher percentage of possible velocity out of a much shorter barrel. For instance, my 10.5 300 black pistol gets only a hundred or so fps less than the 7.62 out of a 16 inch barrel. Combine that with the versatility of going subsonic out of the same gun and you have a crazy versitile and compact platform.

[@bustercheeks4116]

Deer huntin?? Looking for something similar forbmy young son to hunt with

[@nickschae2518]

Absolutely love everything you put out. Even when the reviews arent what I'm interested in... The way you do your videos is 100% top notch!! Please dont ever stop doing what you do.

[@ajttambo]

Outstanding analysis Nutn!

[@CrimeVid]

So .300 blk is useful up to 350yds if you reload, if you have a silencer, a reasonable poachers gun, and better if you don’t own a 5.56/.223 at all, yes ?

[@TransformersHoarder]

Sounds about right

[@GRACEVENTURES]

300 BLK IS a good round for alternative season if you deer hunt. cant use a regular rifle has to be a muzzleloader, pistol, or bow....an ar pistol qualifies as long as its under 26 inches at least where i live. cant have a light or be capable of carrying 11 round so ten round mag. i would rather have a short barreled 300 blk than a short barreled 5.56 that really neuters the 5.56. wanna have the power to make a clean kill still.

[@TheHeav3nzwarrior]

I absolutely love this channel. Crazy that Nutnfancy has not hit 1million subs yet.

[@rivercityracer3683]

I was going to use .300 black as a vehicle gun/travel gun/backpack gun/home defense. A .30 caliber rifle round that chews through vehicles better than 5.56, in a compact package with familiar, intuitive controls and some redundancy in parts within the AR platforms. The vast majority of training can be done with my 11.5 BCM in 5.56 which I have plentiful ammo for, so I don't really need that much ammo in .300 for my other build. 300-500 rounds of 110 grain 300 blackout moving at over 2,100 fps out of a shorter barrel, a couple 20 round mags for backpack or vehicle carry, and a few 30 round mags for reloads. 🤷‍♂️ And I have a weapon as effective as an AK "pistol" in 7.62x39. Within 100 yards thats major trouble for a threat if i'm doing my part and training and dryfiring and practicing presentations, marksmanship, reloads...which, I am...it can also be used very effectively for hunting, even out of something like a 9" barrel in lightweight supersonic loads. I considered various PCC's for a while and I ended up realizing - why not just use a rifle round in a package that size, if I can. I'm no 300 blackout maximalist but it is a great option to expand your versatility and/or effectiveness in various PDW-style POU's. An ex ranger and contractor buddy of mine mentioned to me last year that they loved .300 blackout subsonic suppressed for hostage situations as well due to lack of overpenetration, and CQB in general due to good reliability in a shorter package than a suppressed 11.5 or MK18 for example.

[@bradbradley8384]

My main rifle is .300 blk. PSA 10.5 upper w a blast can. Spike's lower and a Fail Zero nickel boron bcg. Love it. Dont plan on engaging beyond 250 yards. Just my personal POU. Have several 5.56 also. Very right about ammo cost. I have < 2500 in cans. Dont really stock a lot anyway. But I like the .300 a lot.

[@jonesperkins1382]

In my regular shopping in this latest panic. I haven't even seen any 300 Blackout for sale in any gun stores. Maybe a box here there. I have however seen a lot of 350 Legend sitting on the box with people even the people at Walmart telling me nobody wants that stuff

[@TacticalDoodle]

I kept seeing it at walmart for a while, but I think those days are long gone. When the turkey shotgun ammo went on clearance guys were pulling whole carts full out of there!

[@jonesperkins1382]

@@TacticalDoodle I live in rural Nevada. My local Walmart still get some ammo in. And as of last night there was about 10 boxes of 350 Legend still sitting on the shelf

[@joemoment-o1275]

@@jonesperkins1382 I built an upper now I have tons of ammo

[@mfallen2023]

@@joemoment-o1275 Same here. Initially got it just because it was available, but quickly realized that a 9mm round running at 2300fps is no joke. BC sucks, but its a 200-250yd round, so whatever. When I need .308 performance I'll use my .308.... Took a buck with it this winter and its wound channel reminded me very much of a 30-30. So a round that is roughly equivalent to a 30-30 in an AR platform, that shoots soft and is relatively cheap and widely available? It's been a no-brainer for me. If Magpul would just design a decent 350L magazine I think the cartridge would take off like crazy. Only issues I've had have been mag related, and I think that's a big reason why people have stayed away from the cartridge.

[@HansBelphegor]

That's why i built a 350 legend

[@46dgarrison]

I recently sold my scorpion evo to build a 300blackout. I figured it would be a much more efficient backpack gun for hiking. The commonality between the ar platform was my main reasoning behind my decision. Parts interchangeability is a beautiful thing if ever needed. And I don’t plan on shooting it nearly as often as I would the scorpion or even one of my 5.56 rifles.

[@LovesM855A1]

You made a good move!

[@patrickcook1423]

The 300 blk is perfect for hunting in an AR platform. Especially for kids because of the light recoil and 6 position stocks. Love it … but that’s all I do with it.

[@peachykeen1973]

How 'bout that cheap 7.62x39 now.

[@985shane]

2024 and still cost more than 5.56

[@RAF71chingachgook]

Back East here the sight lines are maybe 100yards at most. Thick underbrush. Dense forest. Urban environments. We don't have the 30 mile sight lines that you have in the west. I lived in Provo for 5 years. I understand why a short range round isn't attractive to you. But here in the east, and for what we'd need it for it makes sense. A 5.56 doesn't make sense for short barrel. SHORT BARREL is needed here. Why? Figure it out. Why would we need short barrel? Philosophy of use...

[@RAF71chingachgook]

BTW, I don't own any 5.56 to get confused with 300. I have ak rds. No 5.56 in the house.

[@michaelalan6459]

After several years I've finally come into the black with my BO reloads. I'm actually saving money now. It took long enough.

[@allendiaz5176]

300 yards with a 2ft drop. Maybe..... I would say 200 yards with any true accuracy. Past that, it depends on what bullet you are using. 400+? If you can do artillery math

[@YichengLi]

We learned during Covid that reloading isn't a long-term solution due to primers and components drying up. Powder is somewhat interchangeable and bullets can be hand-cast, but primers are very difficult to come by. They're still easily a hundo for a brick of Small Rifle/Pistol.

[@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595]

It’s a long term solution if you store your components ahead of time. That’s the whole point of storage. Having the stuff when it’s not on the shelves.

[@brotherryan6265]

14:24 .300 blk won’t chamber into a 5.56 barrel. It’s literally almost an 1/8” larger in diameter. The bolt won’t seat. So, unless you encounter some sort of anomaly, it can’t physically happen. Especially with factory ammunition, there’s built-in redundancy to help prevent chambering the wrong caliber into any gun. (Head spacing, cartridge length, belted casing, rim profile, etc.)

[@christopherscooper58]

I was taking aback by that too. DUDE !!!!

[@brianclevenger5521]

I was hunting with 300BO back around 2012-2014. I have since moved to the 6.5 Grendel.

[@Rocksteady713]

I have neither. I basically just want the option that will be available in 2040 when I’m 40…

[@Rocksteady713]

Short barrel 308 👀. I heard you mention a diamondback. They make a 13.5 🫡

[@minuteofman1776]

Anyone that sees 300blk as a substitution for 5.56 is misguided. However, it is a magnificent addition. Having a 8" suppressed 300blk for varmint and pest control, or a foldable backpack gun is a niche roll, but nice to have.

[@snek9353]

I see 300BLK as a substitution for 5.56. 😜

[@garandgoodness9344]

As always great video. Thank you Nutn as well as all the TNPers who help to make this awesome content possible. Very much appreciated.👍 Because of straight talk, real world application you provide, I got an AK 103 to integrate with my extended family's stock pile of 7.62x39 rather then getting a 300 Blackout platform. Also infueanced by your other videos, 5.56 is still our primary system. Keep the wisdom coming, we are listening.

[@tanov100]

You totally missed the point of 300. POU of 300 and why it was developed is not even on the same planet as 7.62x39.

[@eddiejennejr4342]

Love 7.62x39; it’s been kicking ass in the Middle East for at least 60 years….

[@johncostello2948]

Love it when Nutn cranks on his microphone. Another unique aspect of the Project that keeps me watching.

[@Rpx3144]

Pretty new to 300 blackouts, what home defense ammo would you guys recommend?

[@abovebeyondandforever6571]

It's been a year, and you still haven't gotten an answer. I just purchased a 300blk, and I've asked the same question, and STILL can't get an answer either, wtf, 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@steveeab2364]

5.56 and 308 for me, that's it. I almost bought another caliber rifle but I thought wht? Instead I bought 1000 rounds of 77 grainers

[@monocogenit1]

Always kinda thought .300 blk was a waste, but I just built aero precision .300 with 10" barrel and rugged micro suppressor on the way. Haven't shot it yet. Guess I have more money now, ten years later, even though ammo is crazy expensive right now. I wanted 7.62x39, but prefer the AR platform...so .300 it is. Thanks for the video.

[@bendennis8773]

The largest advantage I saw for 300 Blk when I got mine was the ability to use cast and powder coated bullets I make on my own. Makes it cheap and helps feed the AR when things are tough to get. For most shooters it should be secondary to a 5.56 gun as it is in my arsenal. Also my blue bullets make it easier to not mix up ammo. I don't even keep 300 Blk in magazines to keep it straight. It will quickly ruin a 5.56 gun but the reverse won't even chamber.

[@sweet65mustang]

I don't understand the concern about confusing the ammo. Aren't there many cartridges that would apply to?

[@jamescampbell4334]

I've shot Underwood 255 grain 45 Super (1075 fps/over 650 ft/lbs muzzle energy) out of my HK Mark 23 w/Rugged Obsidian 45 suppressor on firing lines w/300 Black shooters (also suppressed/subsonic). My setup is just as quiet, but rings steel plates noticably louder.

[@jbss8562]

how could a 300 blk round get into battery to even fire? might be a noob but I am not sure how a 30 cal round get into battery so the hammer could fall. I do see it being a major issue if you are in a firefight and try to load the wrong mag.

[@mattstarr2674]

Supersonic 300blk can Like a 125 grain will fully chamber due to being a cut down 556 case the heavy subsonic 220 grains won't chamber

[@kingpin3919]

Thank you for cranking out the great content as always.

[@three-stripes]

Que "are you a time traveler? " comments....

[@betternameneeded6475]

300 blk replaces the mp5 not the 556 ar. When is the last time you shot a 9mm out to 300?

[@ge-8135]

Someone gets it. 👐

[@leviathan7865]

Just bought a db15 instead of a db300 both 16 inch barrels It's a store gun shooting 30 feet max I didn't want overpenetration like crazy. Hopefully I made the right choice. Non suppressed illinois here maybe soon Wisconsin. I was gunna get an ak(from Russia and dream gun) but apparently if u ever need to use it the courts frown upon them. Cost of ammo was another turn off 556 $1 300aac $2.50 per round.

[@noahburden702]

300blk pistol with a short barrel is one of the best ROL back back guns imo

[@ja5onl6]

I bought a 300 blk for 1 reason. 10.5 Pistol AR behind the seat of my work rig for my 10 mile mountain drive home during bear season. I've seen so many bear on my way home from work. Never around when I get back. I'd love to suppress it and hunt some smaller public lands closer to town but a 🤫 hasn't happened yet.

[@lockhackle2645]

I went to a .300BO but wasn’t feeling the shills from it so I sold my .300 barrels and put all me pew pews to 5.56… simply my load outs.

[@jasminebebe3455]

If a guy can only justify one gun, the 556 is the way to go. I have three cartridges all for different applications. 5.56, 300 and 6.5 creedmoor. It boils down to cost and needs. 5.56 and 9mm should be the starting point for every American though in my opinion.

[@billangell6478]

I think the .300 black round fits a niche role, it’s not meant to replace 5.56. It’s designed for a pistol length gassed short barrel system that can be super quiet out of a semi auto platform, then with the swap of a mag give you longer range capability with supersonic rounds.

[@seanomeirs8362]

.300 blackout for an AR pistol with a 10.5" barrel, suppressed, with subsonic 208g Hornady Vmax for me, inside my house.

[@Internaught-The-Wise]

Way to specific.

[@seanomeirs8362]

@@Internaught-The-Wise It was meant to be specific. It's a niche POU for me. To reach out further, only requires a magazine change to 110g Hornady Vmax and a twist on my LPVO.

[@Internaught-The-Wise]

@@seanomeirs8362 too specific. To niche POU. You can't repeat that fory

[@seanomeirs8362]

@@Internaught-The-Wise fory?

[@Internaught-The-Wise]

@@seanomeirs8362 don't you dare fory me!

[@Nosferatu_21]

Holy fuck I’ve been here since like 2014 I’m 22 now super surprised this channel still going strong

[@daphoosa]

Good honest review. I'm a 300BO fan, and for me it makes sense. I reload, which makes training and bulk ammo affordable. I've run quite a few training classes with it over the last 8 year. In the last year or two I've noticed a strong portion of the AR-15 rifles in those classes have been 300BO. When friends ask if they should run 300BO, my usual response is "probably not". For non-enthusiasts, it's hard to beat a basic 556 gun.

[@darktrojan00]

@14:53 how would it blow up? you wouldnt be able to chamber a 30 caliber round on a .22 chamber it seems impossible and unless you are able to get the bolt locked there is no way to fire that round

[@BrianJacobson]

I had someone shove a 6.5 grendel in my AK mags. These issues arise no matter what when using mixed ammo. I use Lancer mags for my 300 and Magpul for my 556 and never anything else so I can tell by feel which is which.

[@ge-8135]

same

[@wwalker327]

The way I keep my 300BO separate is I only use Lancer mags for 300BO and separate ammo boxes that are different colors. Also I pretty much only load 223 into mags from stripper clips when possible. I try not to have loose 223.

[@rosone51178]

will 300 chamber into a 5.56?

[@wwalker327]

@@rosone51178 Yep and blow the gun up and could kill you like Nutn said.

[@mikebeddingfield2144]

I have some tva blue ductape and i know what is what with my mags blue for the black out and nothing on the 556

[@Alan.livingston]

Done a lot of boar hunting with a Howa 7.62x39 bolt gun. Shoots sub-moa all day long with sst hand loads. 0-300m it really puts things down.

[@tracyepeterson7817]

I have an AR I built in 7.62x39, it runs 10 round mags no problem, 30 round mags catch the tip of the bullet almost every round, so I would say it’s a problem with finding mags that work more than finding a gun that works. Your mileage may vary.

[@ediot6969]

Still blasting .300 and many of my friends as well. I am a gun lover and all things gun. Embrace the innovation and new. It’s part of how the industry stays alive.

[@garin8726]

I think 300 blackout is a fantastic cartridge and probably the future, however in the current state of the world my Sig rattler has been relegated to a home defense weapon only. I have about 1000 rounds and haven’t been able to find any more for a decent buy. It pisses me off every day to look at an awesome firearm and know that I cannot shoot it!!

[@mike30680]

I love my 300, but it is a purpose built AR. It is a short barreled AR with a folder that fits into small backpacks with a can and still is effective ballistically. It’s not a do all for me, but I take it when I want more firepower with a more stable shooting platform that I can put out to 150yards. It serves its purpose.

[@Biker_Gremling]

Since in my country 556 is a banned cartridge, and 7.62x39 is restricted to bolt actions only, 300 Blackout is the only logical cartridge for an AR-15 platform. 30cal projectiles are abundant, and not requiring huge powder loads is a big plus (gunpowder is a very restricted and hard to source component). Also, price for commercial ammo is actually very reasonable, considering the alternative is full power cartridges.

[@pretorian5119]

Nutn you are the man

[@JohnDoeEagle1]

It makes sense to me as a reloader to have AR pistols chambered in it. I use a Harbor Freight 3" mini chop saw and Squirrel Daddy jig to chop down standard 5.56 cases. I'm a bullet caster and powder coater as well so I cast my own bullets using a Lyman 2-cavity bullet mold.

[@2Aknight762]

The only good reason for .300 Blackout is shooting suppressed. I don't shoot suppressed so if I spend that kind of money on ammo, I'll buy .308. I have stocked up on .308 (7.62 x 51) surplus ammo for much less money. Friend of mine bought a Daniel Defense .300 BO pistol for $1800 and has yet to shoot it. Meanwhile I have several thousand rounds of .223/5.56, 7.62 X 39 and 7.62 x 51 and 9mm. Same story with 6.8 SPC, good cartridge but cost more than .308, why waste your money.

[@Cooldibs]

I’ve only got a few calibers on my rifle weapons systems. 5.56, 7.62x39, 30-30 & .22lr. I focus on ammo that I can get pretty cheap and I’m bulk. 30-30 being an exception.

[@PineyJustice]

300 blackout is great if you reload, neck damaged 5.56 cases can easily be converted using a harbor freight micro chop saw with jig, size and trim. It's also extremely powder efficient, using around 1/3 to 1/2 the powder of 5.56, biggest downside is 7.62 bullets cost at least twice to 3x as much as 5.56 bullets.

[@bobborlog1677]

I've noticed that as well 62 grain green tip I use in a 10.5 cqb setup and the 69 grain aren't as accurate either.

[@ripath]

How did you get the US palm mag to work with the ks47? They don't fit in mine