Buying a 250R, is this the right one? | Project 250R Part 1

[@MichaelSabo]

Gettin some flack on the price! I respect everyone's opinion; a couple things to consider on my part... . - The market here hasn't been great (Philly area) - Time is money; KZbin is a large portion of my income and the sooner I get the project rolling, the sooner I can create videos and the sooner I get paid. - The seller is a subscriber and allowed me to film the transaction which not many people would be cool with. It's also meaningful to have subscribers involved in my content; it's not just about the deal. - Literally a 5 mile drive. . I could have waited for a better deal but in my case; this was the move. Anyways, thank you to everyone that follows the build 🤘 . - Mike

[@neal24v29]

Michael Sabo overall i think it’ll be a perfect build bike... and for some answers as I watched the video that is a stock rear axle, the wheels also have a date stamped in the middle, and those are oldschool maier “low profile TT” rear fenders which aren’t made anymore, and the front is also an older style maier race cut... I would go with Fullbore plastics I love them, or even maier plastics as I have them too... overall it looks pretty clean but I would gusset the frame with a Pumashine kit if you are going to stick with it... motor looks decent and the a arms use bushings... enjoy!

[@250rtrxjunkie]

You wanna play you gotta pay🤙 You did the right thing. You still getting the views 😂

[@gompie250]

There is always a better deal anywhere... If its worth for u at that specific moment u should go for it! I also saw better deals after i bought my banshee, i dont care 🤘

[@250rtrxjunkie]

@@gompie250 Exactly👊

[@stevefell845]

Sweet ride .price .you get what you pay for .cheap you pay twice .in the long run . Keep it up well done .screw the haters there just jealous . Peace out .

[@rpmjunky2795]

The old, “it wasn’t leaking before“ 😂😂

[@kurttris1]

I bought this exact quad in 87.... It cost new $2773! Watching this video brought a tear to my eye!!😂

[@MichaelSabo]

Do you think I made a good choice buying this 250R for my project build? Thank you for watching 👊

[@JonnyDisilva-z06]

Michael Sabo I think a great deal would’ve been 2400 but you did make out pretty well the 3 grand, Considering it’s mostly original

[@brandonm7824]

sand blast and powdercoat it. frame up it will be a 5k bike when you're done

[@JonnyDisilva-z06]

Brandon M true that

[@mikehussey7021]

$3000 is a lot for that bike. Parts aren’t cheap for these. Good luck!

[@Coolkitty639]

I think you did well. I think it's better to start with a near stock one. I change everything anyway. Often the mods done by previous owners are bad or done by rookie mechanics. I have a un-faded blue tank if you're interested.

[@jonathonhart9145]

So glad I found you on here I am looking into either a banshee, 250r or a lt500 to restore. All the quads I wanted as a kid back in the late 80s early 90s but could never have due to my old man only liking two wheels. Will definitely be following your build. And to all of you that thinks he paid to much. None of you would have put that bike up for $1200 you all would have started right around 3k. He did not get no screaming deal but I think mike paid fair market value.

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you for following the build man! Any one of those quads mentioned will make for an awesome project 🤘

[@Jess-db3yf]

That's a solid foundation. I raced those qusds for year's. I'm building a Walsh 250R right now 🤘🏁

[@Burke-gf7yh]

I think you made a great purchase bro at the end of the day if your happy with the bike thats all that matters im from the uk and i have just brought a 92 banshee without even looking at it in person had it imported from California all stock oem except filter and pipes bin sat for over 20 years!! Yours it was down the road you saved on fuel collecting it, you didn’t have to worry about time it took to collect it ie traffic and any other set backs cant wait to see more keep it up 👍🏻

[@usmcchet1]

Brother you have no idea how expensive things are going to get on that machine. Front a arms are starting at a grand just to start. I can't wait to see this build start. If it is going to be like the banshee build I can't wait.

[@urbankyng6467]

Depends on the brand, you can get a set of lonestar a-arms for like 5-600 dollars. Less, if you buy them used.

[@Codyrosa]

You can get them way cheaper than that lol. Unless of course he is doing top of the line everything then of course its going to be expensive.

[@usmcchet1]

@@Codyrosa when you have a 250r you go all the way or don't buy it. 7 years ago my buddy had one and he had 10 grand in it and still wasn't done

[@Codyrosa]

@@usmcchet1 I have a 250r myself. I'm like 5gs into it lol.. so I know.. but I was just saying. Instead of scaring him off with how expensive they are I listed cheaper ones lol.

[@OTAlucard]

I looked up prices on a lot of stuff when building. And I ultimately end up deciding to just buy another bike that's already put together the way I want it.

[@southeasttimberharvest552]

Well if you dont already know that guy got you big time bud. That's a $1500 bike the way it sets. I honestly can't believe you gave 3k for it.

[@JohnJones-vu9un]

Wow that's a great deal.....for the seller. That guy is hustler of the year. You paid double what its worth/going for.

[@andyb9994]

Lots of people saying you over paid, maybe in there part of the country but east coast that's pretty much going rate, especially for a nice stock clean original R. Good find that is a great bike to build. 👍

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you man, and I agree for sure now that I have more knowledge on the 250r!

[@mikekent6635]

I wouldn’t take those comments to heart. I paid a grand for a 87 Suzuki lt250r in pieces. 6 grand later I got a completely restored quad that brings back a lot of memories from my teenage years. Suzuki or Honda’s the r’s rip and they rip hard. These modern day quads are nothing compared to the old 2 strokes. Keep up the good work!

[@jerrynelson3386]

Modern 450s are far superior to the old 250 2 strokes in every way. In fact the 400 4 strokes are even faster. A stock 400ex will beat a modded 250r the 250r might feel faster but its not.

[@mikekent6635]

All I know is at the local state off-road parks I’ve smoked every modified 4-stroke out there. A 2 stroke completes 2 combustion cycles to a 4-strokes 1. It’s a basic principle in building horsepower. The faster you get the fuel in , get it burnt and out the exhaust the more horsepower you make.

[@jerrynelson3386]

@@mikekent6635 well the guys must not know how to ride. Hmm so that's why they let the 250 2 strokes race with the 250 4 strokes now in mx and guys still ride 4 strokes. A 2 stroke 250 isn't even close to a 450 4 stroke. "Basic principle in building horsepower" or not it's called development. Tell me why no one rides 250 2 strokes in mx anymore? Especially against what you think is a less powerful 4 stroke.

[@jpfarwood5306]

@@mikekent6635 your clueless bud 2 strokes cant compete with modern day 4 strokes proven facts.

[@mikekent6635]

I could careless about those mx racers. Look at what channel you are watching and look at what bikes and quads sabo is selling and which ones he’s acquiring. You don’t see the banshee for sale huh?

[@_trx250rog_6]

I have a 250r myself and 20:1 will foul out plugs so I usually run 32:1 hopefully that helps you out a little

[@dawsonhouse641]

when i bought my r it was the best day... i got in the work van and played hookie for the day and drove to indy all alone and told no one that i was going to pick it up.. i did a frame off as well but i did mine in all white mine has a 310 ptr kit

[@MichaelSabo]

Haha, that's awesome man; nothing like playing hookie to pick up a new machine 🤘

[@peteschaller7736]

There my old plastics lol I put the R stickers on there, sold them to him two years ago lol

[@realpatriot5896]

Looks like a good deal to me! I am a mechanic and that engine sounded pretty good to me. Just a little cosmetic work may be so you need for now. However, you will want to check the compression in it to check for ring wear off course to be sure of what exactly you are working with. I think you made a good purchase personally!

[@brandonl7396]

Thats the two 2 strokes I want. Sitting side, by, side. Nice man.

[@MichaelSabo]

Hell yea man 🤘👊

[@danzo706]

clean 250r \m/ great purchase and I can't wait to see the end result of this build

[@motofarmmx2430]

3k is super steep for an 87 in that shape. I picked up a 88 with a 310 paul turner motor-pipe-v force-carb-bumper and grab bar in good shape nice graphics and seat OEM un cracked plastic for 2600. In southwest pa that's like a 2k tops quad. I picked up a 89 here that looked like that for 500 with literally a truck load of spare parts.

[@HondariderLee]

I'd like to find one in that shape for 500 I'd be all over it.....

[@motofarmmx2430]

@@HondariderLee the guy had it listed forever and no one bought it. So I went and looked picked a few things out and said 500 is the best I could do and he said load it up. Like I said I got basically a truckload of parts with that too. The 88 I got for $2600 isn't even comparable to the one he got it was 1000x nicer.

[@73racing16]

Kick ass quad man, I had a dyno port pipe on my lt80 back when I was 7

[@brmotoway21]

I got a lot of 250r parts like led pipe and silencers asv levers chrome pieces all around and a lot more performance parts

[@johnsmith-oh2xo]

I need some parts i'm building one would like to buy some parts if you still have them....

[@brmotoway21]

john smith yea I got a lot of parts text me 360-519-1797

[@kevindement7418]

I'd like to find one myself. Parts are still easy to get for the TRX, arguably one of the best quads ever made. I have a 1987 Quadzilla that I restored 18 years ago, all stock except the pipe and silencer. Problem is parts are becoming very hard to get.

[@bangs2ndshotgarage865]

I'd like to know ware are u guys finding all these 250Rs for $1500? There isn't any for that price here in Western Pa/eastern Oh.

[@dylancold23]

Super stoked to see this build come along. Don’t worry about all the haters in the comments. Keep on keepin on

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you bro! 🤘👊

[@adamhebert8932]

Yeah, that r would've been 4k where I live, you did fine...

[@tsar-bomba2413]

Definitely made a great purchase, perfect platform to start from

[@randyrowe3097]

I want one. Had an 87 back in the late 90's had the gold wheels, white plastic, and red seat. My buddy sold it from under me. Took it and sold it to his new buddy in another state. We were tight as a hell, like brothers I thought. It was sold in early 99 I think. I actually rode it in the late 90's. We tried some motocross. I really didn't have time but he did great. I was a little scared and was too busy to ride and put any time into it. Mostly scared though. I'm not scared when it comes to a lot of things. Jumping a quad compared to a bike is totally different and less confident. Any way he paid me a fair price but we have never been the same. Why I'm saying this is stupid . Just watching these videos, I guess. Had a 400ex, a fl400r, 450r, 700xx, Polaris 700 twin (junk). And a klx. (junk).

[@keithkeller698]

I also have a 1987. With That dyno port pipe and klem silencer that is definitely someones 1980's woods bike. Doesnt look like it has had a whole lot of use since.

[@carlosquintana6930]

That thing looks slick I can’t wait to see what you’re gonna do to it👍👍

[@musiclovr2890]

Hey man the left upper a arm pocket has a crack in it 14:35 you can see it,not a big deal didn't think you seen it, love the 250r’s

[@bigspoops7228]

that quad would be 5k in my area lol so i think you did fine.

[@funtyes1970]

if you paying $5k in your area for something is that used and run down someone getting rip off . something like that shouldn't be no more then $2k to $3k

[@bigspoops7228]

@@funtyes1970 oh yeag un aware uts a rip off, just its a small town in a small province we dont have good supply of older wheelers

[@chevy43]

Nice find Mike. Can’t wait to see build videos

[@urbankyng6467]

Being from philly, that's the average price for a beat 250r. An dont get me started on banshee prices here🤦‍♂️

[@immelting9834]

What's the going price for a 400ex in the same type condition ?

[@delhalyard880]

I am Del Halyard I’m from LA I just got a also the same type of cloth that I just got

[@brenontech]

yeah that’s perfect for you... i can’t wait to see the first vid on it!!!

[@aaronnealey488]

Hells yeah! This will be one of your favorite quads!

[@kellycampbell7801]

I think u did well I looked at it from what I can see

[@claudeperron780]

Nice find, same year as the one i bought 2 weeks ago.

[@yamaha450rchristian5]

I LOVE IT.NICE PROJECT MACHINE.

[@samuelgagnon4953]

6:25 now that a real kick 2vintage take note!!

[@ronaldtartaglia4459]

Greatest quad ever made

[@streetrossi937]

I think you made a great purchase for what you paid and the condition It came in I don't think you can't get any better

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you bro!

[@streetrossi937]

You are come my man

[@mrmartini402]

Just started a Trx 250 build and subscribed, hopefully this will inspire me to make some good build choices! Thx

[@Dave-zt5oj]

Great bike... can’t wait to see it change

[@peytoncaminiti1720]

Looking good man cant wait to see the end result!

[@harrisongrossmann7823]

Looks good can’t wait for the build

[@robertgomez5248]

Personally, I would have not purchased an 87. Too many weird, sometimes hard to get parts since it was a transitional model. The ATC 85 and 86 shared parts with the 86 trx 250r so they had a huge aftermartket, but the 87 has a longer stroke and different wrist pin position, in addition for some weird chassis part (eg. grab bar) which changed the next year. So some small parts on the 87 are just awkward.

[@youngphl1]

Bruh I feel like I just bought a 250r 😂😂😂good buy man can’t wait to see the build

[@Stubbz33]

You got a running and riding bike for 3k that the frame wasn’t trashed on i say you made out ok! Ready to see how this build turns out!

[@WVdavidB]

Harry Klemm was big into PWC tuning/machinging/porting. Was one of the only shops doing KDX200 mods. I had a Kawie 750 engine in an X2 Jet Ski he ported. It was a fun ski until I leaned it out too much and 4 corner seized it :/

[@Hondarider35]

You had me there with the lt250r comment. I was like “WHY””””.

[@realpatriot5896]

Concerning the price most people will sell you one based on the overall feel for what the bike is worth based on how solid it feels mechanically. So based on that price of you bought it from an honest guy which I would say you did based on his personality then it should not take much to get it where you want it!

[@minibikemadman]

I paid 4k for my 88 but i got 2 sets of oem uncut fenders...another motor and tons of other goodies about 4 years ago.blooks like a kleem pipe and can.

[@steezyseabass4982]

HELL YEA MAN ,ITS BEAUTIFUL , CANT WAIT !!

[@darrellbrown3597]

Homie you got straight up taken. Let me know next time you want a quad I'll be happy to sell you one. That guys laughing all the way to the bank.

[@rodneymorris449]

Congratulations awesome 👏

[@thtblack5.7]

Also the headlight looks similar too.

[@anthonymechling1434]

Where I'm from 3k isn't a bad price for that quad. It's a f****n 250r anyone complaining about the price must not know the 250r history.

[@larrymartin5765]

You can turn that thing into a monster..get a esr 310 kit with pipe and silencer..I got it on my 86 atc 250r..and that machine is scary fast

[@paytonfox4720]

👍🏼 looks like an awesome bike! You should definitely consider buying red plastic for it!

[@connorwaits6575]

I'm in the Cincinnati area in Ohio and people want a LOT for these things. This one sounds tired and would still go for 2400-3000. They are cool but not worth all the hype. Looking forward to seeing her get some tlc

[@barrymccockiner3251]

For 3k did he lube it up before he stuck it in or no?

[@randylott2953]

Great deal on the 250

[@fincevriese5312]

3k? I guess what they say is true there's a sucker born everyday. That's a $1500 bike the way it sits.

[@brandonstewart6753]

@@250rtrxjunkie I'm not that stupid.

[@southeasttimberharvest552]

@@250rtrxjunkie 3k for that bike? Come on man you know it's not worth close to that.

[@joseotero1331]

Great Buy, I rebuild quads as well, if is possible I can send you some pics of the ones I have done, can't wait to see it finished.

[@ronaldtartaglia4459]

Longlivethefourtrax250r

[@thomasmaloney1827]

Good deal solid bike plus a title

[@jimbush8566]

Glad you bought one but you really over paid. I'm sure that seller is happy. I bought a bone stock 87 for $1550 3 months ago and it looks a bit nicer than that one.

[@charlesrichardson2372]

Everybody turns into a quad salesman when they hear the price. "Thats a 1200 dollar bike" yeah, and its probably beat up, the stock parts alone on that bike are worth 3 grand on the resale market. Yes its maybe a little high, but its not everyday you find an almost stock bike in good running order. Dont let the internet thugs bring you down. Cool bike, i have an all stock 87 as well. #longlivetheR

[@darrellroeters4951]

Yes good buy, hard to find.

[@OGAstra]

The siliencer is made by Harry Klemm from group k

[@miked596]

Great vids my guy!!

[@DoubleTap702]

There’s a decent Lt250r for $2000 that’s not too far from me. I’m in the same boat as you, I’ve had a few banshees and I’ve always wanted a 250r. Might grab the LT and a TRX when one pops up

[@mattorman5640]

About time you got a Honda

[@colinlogan4879]

3000$ jeezzz i can pick up on in about same condition for 2500$ CDN

[@simonjessop9720]

I think you got a good deal 3k but I think you could make him go down to $2700 I bought a 250r about three months ago I paid $2700. That’s a cool Buy I can’t wait to see what you have for build love video

[@feracopictures9322]

Nice I know the area, I went cb east I saw the shorts. Wish I can get my hands on a 250r my cuz in nj had 3 of them they were fun ripping on it.

[@handendaer]

Thats clean gratz, gl

[@DoubleTap702]

It’s gotta be cool for the guy you bought it off to see it being transformed

[@nelsonkarrer6961]

Sweet 250r good buy

[@J-YT99]

you gotta buy the Honda themed MX Gloves and go all out. like the "Troy Lee Designs Air" Honda gloves

[@reggiexp69]

i got the same tyres on my triton 450. ARTRAX they look cool, very noisy on the road.

[@MichaelSabo]

I always thought they looked cool too; aggressive sidewalls

[@reggiexp69]

@@MichaelSabo yeah i like the grip :) never heard of this brand befor. but i like the grip, now my front tires are still stock i think, kenda claw (still some good grip on them) and they suck the quad keeps on going straight. but yeah the artrax looks sporty :) havent tested them really good but with wed mud the quad , just spins the rear and goes straight lol. its just to shitty weather :)

[@arturo5819]

Dude when I was in the market for one I had to drive 18 hrs round trip to pick one up and a week later one popped up a couple of miles away! Now I own 2 lol

[@jromem7313]

Rich daly is the man!

[@cbr600rrturbo]

The mechanic told ya just what I told ya to look at lol

[@LiveFreeOrRIP]

I cant WAIT until i get mine.... Frame off... for sure!!! CT??

[@cbr600rrturbo]

@@LiveFreeOrRIP ct is awesome

[@250rtrxjunkie]

You gotta get yours done you rich guy, lol👍🏻😂 I'm on here trolling the comments🙈🤪🙃

[@cbr600rrturbo]

@@250rtrxjunkie I have been dragging my feet, this week I'm working on cleaning the bottom of the engine

[@250rtrxjunkie]

@@cbr600rrturbo Nice🤗

[@backwheelbandits2.0]

I unsubscribed few weeks ago got sick of the banshee vids ..but now I'm bak I love the build vids on diff bikes/quads..good vid🤙

[@Joelontugs]

You know the odds it took for that oil mixture sticker to drill be there ! This thing was taken care of and hardly used

[@867diesel]

run honda gear oil and klutz 2 stroke oil and do 24:1 oil gas ratio . ive raced the same 250r since 01 I got it from joe byrd and its my preferred quad to race

[@robertobrito6698]

Let me enlighten some of you, you see how many followers? Ok, so that is nothing for him, just play money. Legendary machine!

[@arriagarobz]

Congrats bro you got a rare Atv right there... l

[@TheMuskyMafia]

I really don't see how an almost original bike of that rarity and age would be much cheaper to the point people are talking trash . Crazy to me. Must be nice to be in the part of our country where these are readily available and a bargain on top of that! I want to know what that life is like lo

[@whomattjones3580]

Junk tires beat seat cheap plastic rusty still caked in dirt underneath who knows what else that's a $1500 bike all day here.

[@kellykubik4514]

Not as easy to find as u think

[@outdoorssmith5454]

That’s an 85 or 86, I know because the head is black, those were the motors off of the atc but were detuned for the atv, the best year for the 250r was 88 89, so much better head

[@johndudleyarmstrong5318]

I hope you got a decent one for your money. Other 250r's that look better for cheaper may have hidden faults or no papers so yh mate 👌😉. Good luck

[@moparman44069]

If you want a good pipe Look into LED performance engines there build pipes for trx250r that’s there mine bikes that there do

[@anthonyfrederick2188]

I have a ton of parts for this quad axle nerf barbs rotoats a arms shocks many whole bunch of other stuff for a 250r

[@kennethbushor1017]

The only thing that's really wrong with that quad is a seat what you go to get a seat cover for and it just looks like he needs you painted everything looks pretty damn good it's hard to find a good look good quad like that

[@mikelwmc]

Just look at it. Thing actually sounded pretty good didn't hear any piston slap or anything noticeable. 20 to 1 still Rings true especially wide open throttle 32 to 1 minimum.

[@alex-sanddevil5093]

Engine got pistons slap

[@nikofox1275]

*8:04 LOL NO TETHERS ON THE NERF BARS! 😂