Buying a second hand Panda 4x4? Watch this first!

This time we are helping you with what you need to know about the subframe issues that come with owning a MK3 Fiat Panda 4x4 169.
In this video we are also aiming to help buyers in the used market with what they need to look for when purchasing a second hand Panda 4x4.
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[@persevere777]

Great new opening format and graphics😊

[@KidThomsonMediaProductions]

Great idea for a video, very useful and informative

[@allthingsandyb]

Thanks for the support Cam

[@mo27960]

I’ve got a 2010 Cross that seems to be in far better condition than most & want to keep it as a future classic. Would Freddie be able to have a look at it for me & advise on maintenance eg removing & galvanising the subframes? I’d obviously pay for his time & take it to his workshop. I’m a member of your FB page.

[@jaywalker1233]

Wow, that rear diff ECU looks very vulnerable to high water - crazy place to put it

[@bodders306]

That Strada Abarth has been there for months and months…..!

[@rodneyhull9764]

Twinair v diesel ?

[@ukmud6218]

I saw one of the older shape ones for sale for 15k

[@allthingsandyb]

Prices are going mad on all marques now

[@jaywalker1233]

I had an ‘85 and then swapped it for a ‘Sisley’ (with the fun gauges!). Loved both - unfortunately so did the tin worm…

[@jaywalker1233]

Wow, that ECU is very vulnerable to water

[@allthingsandyb]

They only have a wading depth of about 400mm aswell

[@jaywalker1233]

@@allthingsandyb that’s the advantage of the Mk3/Series 2 Pandas - purely mechanical Ferguson / GKN 4x4 viscous coupling system (up until July 2008) which can plough through quite deep water (with snorkel etc) or flash flood conditions without worrying about 4x4 electronics and ECUs etc

[@stanthesteelguitarman8228]

What else can you expect on a 12 year old vehicle with 140,000 miles on the clock, which has also likely to have been driven on rougher terrain than even today's UK pot holed roads?

[@allthingsandyb]

You can't expect alot less, but it doesn't warrant keeping the prices so high when the majority of people will be unaware of underlying issues.

[@stanthesteelguitarman8228]

Yes, I agree. Actually the age is 16 years, not 12 as I originally miscalculated. Ready for the scrap heap very shortly, perhaps?@@allthingsandyb

[@allthingsandyb]

​@stanthesteelguitarman8228 ironically, this car was already saved from the scrap man.

[@jaywalker1233]

@@allthingsandyb that’s where YT channels like this are so valuable, sharing this information

[@andrewmunz1639]

They are now 1800 quid,

[@allthingsandyb]

What, all of them?

[@andrewmunz1639]

As far as I can see is in Feb,24 fiat have them new at 1900 in Sept 24. But on e bay, it's difficult to get the right one but used at 270 free delivery to Edinburgh? (Im in inverness)but when it was fitted all studs and Knuts siezed and replaced