Buying a Used Nissan LEAF? Cost & Charging.

[@keith3639]

Just wanted to add my Leaf experience. I have a 2013 Leaf SV that has 61,000 miles, still has 11 bars. Level 2 chargers both at home and work, and I always drive in ECO & B mode. I have a daily highway commute of 84 miles so my savings electric vs. gas is $13/day, or >$3K/year. This is based on gas price of $4/gallon and electric rate of $0.2/kwh.

[@christianaranas5981]

You manage 84 miles on a 2013 Leaf on a single charge?

[@johnwang9914]

@@christianaranas5981 Remember he's level two charging both at home and at work so he's only drawing 42 miles on the battery pack. Typically the charge at work would be at no cost as paid parking lots and office buildings find it to be less expensive to just offer the power for free than spend the money on a complex system to charge for the power. Level 2 destination charge stations tend to be free though keep in mind it takes hours to charge at level 2.

[@Poteluz]

​@@johnwang9914 I heard about 4-5 hours on level 2 for full charge.

[@johnwang9914]

@@Poteluz Yes 4 to 5 hours does count as the few hours I mentioned, however the full charge time will depend on battery capacity which has increased significantly over the last decade. Mind you, my post was that the OP was charging at both home and at work so he was always just topping off to cover a one way commute, not a full charge, and as half the charges were at work, he wasn't even paying directly for half his charges (though he might've been paying for paid parking). Range isn't even an issue for the OP's daily use.

[@thomashalikas4812]

used leaf , not only the mileage on the odometer , but also how many capacity bars the used leaf has left , this is very important !

[@TheGerm24]

I would recommend using Leaf Spy with an OBD2 connector (assuming you can do that on a car shopping trip). The port on the Leaf is below the steering wheel to the left. Leaf Spy gives much more detailed data on the battery health.

[@mikecinema7443]

This video series is amazing! I’m thinking of buying an EV and your uploads have been informing and entertaining. Great job. I’m binge watching these like it’s Netflix.

[@DirectCurrentRides]

Thanks a lot! I'll hopefully be posting more in the new year. Let me know if you decide to go EV! (Do it!)

[@michaelandujar8109]

Well worth it I love my 2014 nissan leaf I have the 24kw battery if you can get one with a bigger battery or make sure you have plenty of chargers around the areas you go. You could also have a charging system in your truck if you want to lose a little space. I'm in Tennessee and everything is like 20 minutes away from me and I never run out of power(gas) lol

[@paftaf]

I recommend a 2013 SL. All options, leather seats, ... Then add Leafspy phone app and BLE dongle.

[@kathyfann]

Thank You so much I applied for my EVGo card and they are mailing it today. My dealer is down the street and said as long as I stay there and take the car when it’s finished I can charge there as long as I own the Car

[@TRYtoHELPyou]

Professional, you are! Nice EV vids man....

[@jasona8964]

Hey, fellow Charlotte resident here! Thanks for the vid. I am considering one of these cars next time I need a new car.

[@lucianovargas2934]

Same

[@mrgoesta]

Great video! Very helpful, although I see it's a few years old.

[@paulbeaver1]

At home, a level 2 charging station helps a lot. However, before purchasing an electric car, it is important to check whether the installation of this charging station is possible. Some apartments or condos this is not possible or authorized. We must find an alternative.

[@candy5742]

Thank you for this video you answered questions the damn dealership wouldn’t answer. I told them I don’t have a house I’m renting an apartment and nobody told me it comes with a charger I can install in the wall.

[@gregh7457]

how did you think it charged? magically ?

[@electronicsgirl1]

I greatly appreciate your honest review. Seriously you're a life saver!

[@monie948]

did you buy one? how do you like it?

[@kathyfann]

I really enjoy my 2019 leaf Plus. It charges overnight to 256 to 273 miles. I have never been able to go above 275 miles. However my electrician will instal a 50 am charger soon so that will speed things up. My electric bill has not moved up noticeably at all. My power company gives me a credit for charging my car. I live the Regular maintenance that I am saving because it doesn’t need it. I don’t have to Pay for a smog certification just to purchase new license tags. My insurance went down 1/2 of the Honda Accord. All this with oil changers and gas ⛽️ prices in California, I am saving about $1.800. A year so far. I am wonderfully happy

[@1232bluejays]

As long as you survive the sticker shock of initial purchase

[@kathyfann]

It’s worth every penny not to Have all that expensive maintenance and smog tests certification and then there is the Gas. My electric company gave me a discount and then I get the Tax credit. Yes I am one grateful driver.

[@monie948]

are you saving for the inevitable new battery that costs $7000? that is one of two of my only concerns. the other one is that I live in an apartment building so I'll have to go to a charge station all the time.

[@kathyfann]

Picking up my 2019 Leaf Plus today 232 mile range. Yea!!!

[@Pining_for_the_fjords]

How're you getting on with it? I just got a 30kwh Leaf with a range of around 110 miles. I'd love to have over 200 miles but the price is totally unaffordable for me.

[@helveticacalibri4036]

I bought one and it is great

[@sams4mmmm]

Really nice video one of my favourite car reviewers, really genuine reviews

[@nathanchilton803]

I agree, DC Fast Charge is the only option people should care about. That was the ONLY option I waited for when scouting out my 15 Leaf S. I’ve used it 3 times and 2 of those times were simply for the novelty. I haven’t installed a level 2 yet but I’ll definitely look into the Juicebox since you recommend it. I have Leafspy and a WiFi OBDII and my battery state of health (charging to 100% every time) is 92%. Apparently the “charge to 80% to save your battery” was necessary for 2011-2012 non lizard packs. The option isn’t even available in settings anymore.

[@gmcjetpilot]

I have 2015 Nissan Leaf SV (bought used a year + ago) and CHAdeMO (DC fast charge). The fast DC charge is the feature on my LEAF SV I use the least. I have LEVEL 2 in my garage. It's not fast charge, but .I am trying to get long battery life. Yep 80% in about 40 minutes (and free at dealer and nice). I want another 6-8 years out of the battery/car. I have a second car, Turbo Diesel VW TDI JSW for cross country driving.

[@curtphillipps975]

Juse box$$$ get a level 2 on amazon for under 200$

[@zvonimir2096]

I got my leaf for 6000€ and i find it very economical when going from home to write and back

[@fernandozambrana9032]

Thanks, convinced will buy one on the weekend

[@johnfitbyfaithnet]

are you pleased with the car?

[@MattLesak]

Since you own a JuiceBox, set the max charging level (capacity) to 80% if possible. It will extend the life of the battery back. Older LEAFs have the ability to stop at 80%, but I own a 2015 like you and you can't, but your charger can.

[@DirectCurrentRides]

Matt Lesak Since I drive so much I have to charge to at least 90%, but usually try not to break 95. I wish I could only charge to 80 or 85. I do that with my Ryobi electric lawn mower. I'm going to do a video on my Juicebox at some point, but I can't set the Juicebox to only charge to a certain percent just using the functions of the app. I have to manually calculate it and manipulate the app into thinking one thing. It took a couple weeks to figure out what to do, but the read outs on the Juice net app are never accurate, except kWhs.

[@MattLesak]

MFP - Driving Habits Got it. I thought I read you could control the Juicebox in regards to percentage of charge but apparently there's more to it. Good to know.

[@DirectCurrentRides]

Matt Lesak yeah in theory you should be able to, but the charger doesn't talk to the car and it just guesses the percentage. I've had it where it says 42% on my app and the car is actually at 100%.

[@MattLesak]

MFP - Driving Habits that's disappointing. I know it's possible since commercial chargers can, especially DCFC chargers.

[@hbarudi]

Good to see the Nissan Leaf battery doing well in used Nissan Leaf.

[@davidboling3245]

Very informative. Thanks! I have a 2014 Nissan Leaf, bought used for about the same price and love it. Have mostly trickle charged due to not having a 220 volt outlet close to my driveway. Always worked fine. It's watertight, so can go through flood waters if needed, from my own experience. Not recommended, but had no choice and it made it just fine.

[@dusclo4083]

David Boling so my question is that if you mostly trickle charge will that increase your electric bill or will it be the same as a fast charger?

[@davidboling3245]

It's the same theoretically, whether slow or faster, although I think there's is a small difference owing to power losses in the slower chargers. I'm speaking of my own residential power which is a flat fee per kilowatt/hour. Of course, a commercial rapid charger can be much more expensive, due to the convenience. There's always the possibility of finding a free charge somewhere. Those might be few and far between, but possible at various retail outlets (malls, etc).

[@brianevolved2849]

in UK our Nissan leaf is happy changing with the granny lead at nine miles per hour No problem

[@mulkuth]

I worry about the costs relating to battery replacement, it feels lile youve replaced the services and fuel costs with either buying the new battery or in depriciation in what would be a infitecimaly ranged ev, even with solar range extender and cheap electricity the maths may not work out

[@DirectCurrentRides]

Why would you even replace the battery on it?

[@mulkuth]

@@DirectCurrentRides because range? There are ones in norway that have 70% degradation with a 20mile range at full charge....now imagine trying to sell that car when you want a replacement

[@mulkuth]

@@DirectCurrentRides i mean sure your nowhere near that degradaton but i guess this is just my mind looking ahead when it comes to owning one long term

[@DirectCurrentRides]

@@mulkuth throwing an $8k battery pack in a car that's over 10yr old and only worth $3k doesn't sound reasonable. You'd be better off selling it to someone that wanted the car to repurpose the pack for something else and just buying a new car. At that point you should've had the car paid off for years and been able to save for something else. Time may not be the only factor for battery replacements, but I'm never going to I have a car where the battery is not under warranty, unless the car is cheap enough to hang on to like the Leaf. Would I drive a Tesla with the battery out of warranty? Probably not. It's all about value. I don't mind hanging on to the leaf until it won't drive anymore because I can justify selling it for whatever someone's willing to give me because I know I've gotten the value out of it. So in 3-5 years when The range no longer works for me due to degradation, I'll sell it. At that point, my cost of ownership of the car should be about $120 a month. Seems reasonable to me!

[@mulkuth]

@@DirectCurrentRides i think this is the issue, a ten year old petrol car can go through many more owners and even go onto being used in the developing world rather than scrapped or requiring a 8k fee to make it workable again, if you live new car to new car then really you can see this as just paying the petrol fees in one installment in he form of a battery, i have a terrible feeling though that all the peeps who benefit from buying used and doing the labour to make things work will now have no choice.....8k will now be the lowest a car reasonable can be with a useable range, maybe it is just the fact that im used to only paying 2k for a car and i look at this and see it as just taking the bottom of the market out for the sake of eletrification, one of the best example of the hidden costs is the rental scheme renault has for their evs, its based on your anual milage and, once split up comes to about the same cost wise, sorry i could rant on amd on but its only cause i seriously looked at ownership of an i miev once and hit all of these issues when adding it all up

[@curtphillipps975]

You can get a level 2 off eBay or amazon for under 200$

[@curtphillipps975]

Get into your fuse panel with some 10-3 Romex and your done

[@musiclove1851]

I want to drive Nissan Leaf from any rental cars places just to get hang of it before buy it but can not find one anybody knows any available from car rentals.

[@nickborrrego]

Excellent review. Thanks again dude

[@babyflor5377]

Nice video bro thanks for the info 💙✨🤟🏻

[@peterxyz3541]

Battery swapping problem is a “NO”. I see work-around for battery pack ID to car but I’ll let that mature a bit. I still want a Leaf.

[@zelekuther7938]

722nd subscriber here. I like these beginners guides type videos.

[@ryanhall1945]

I bought my leaf in Charlotte, NC too!

[@somedude5414]

Nice, but you never mentioned the cost to purchase the 2nd Level charger, nor the installation cost.

[@DirectCurrentRides]

EVSE costs and electrical work vary widely due to location and type of charger you get. For me it wasn't that much money because of different factors. Could range anywhere from $300 to $2000. Didn't want to try to pinpoint a general cost for everyone.

[@13thCP]

I loved that AAA charger with the lock boxes. Was super cool!

[@END30000]

I want a electric car so bad so I can avoid mechanical/and gass usage but scared of the battery degrading since it's already 2019 and I can only find 2012 used leafs FML

[@JodBronson]

Same here... But Battery is really cheap. If you know a bit, you can replace brand new for about 2K USD.

[@Fot113]

Well it’s 2020 now and we have a new model !

[@horsegirl-od8ns]

try carvana

[@JodBronson]

@@horsegirl-od8ns - Good tips. I did use them and they were really good !!!

[@DarkNebulae]

what is wrong with used 2012 leafs?

[@jmpjose1]

Very good vid! Thanks!

[@frankroper3274]

The saving are great until the battery crashes...then the replacement cost is 6000.00 at the Nissan dealership as only the dealer certified mechanics should replace it. so just deduct 600.00 from your savings per year and save that back and you will be fine as long as your commute is not over 30 miles since running the A/C or heater causes the battery to decline faster.

[@DirectCurrentRides]

I went to the Dominican Republic once and had really good chicken wings at a beach side restaurant. Can't remember the name of it though.

[@frankroper3274]

@General Smedley Butler The battery life of the early model leafs is lacking. Nissan has improved on the technology since then but the article was about used leaf vehicles. You can't control the climate so people are not always going to have ideal conditions for charging batteries. If you have an emergency and your vehicle is on charge it would not be good so now EVs are only good for a back up. I test drove 2 of the 2013 models and 1 of them had already lost 5 bars and had a range of around 39 miles. The little solar panel on the roof is only good to charge the 12 volt battery and does nothing for the A/C or heater. Some people may not know that!

[@sharonbraselton4302]

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[@ROGERWALDMAN]

GREAT VIDEO !

[@1232bluejays]

I'll wait until battery tech improves this range anxiety is crazy

[@sn3495]

Having my 2015 Leaf for a year now I would not recommend it.... for a simple reason that the battery is not water cooled and as the result it deteriorate too fast. I just lost one bar :( My milage have dropped to about 72 to 68 ml.(not highway driving) So when look at Nissan Leaf just keep in mind that by the time you would want to move on to a newer car your Nissan Leaf would have almost no resale value..... battery replacement is astronomically expansive so car value is next to nothing..... I would definitely look at another EV manufacturer.....

[@balls7828]

@@sn3495 it was over 5 years old tho

[@Jeculet]

Great review!

[@skylark304]

extremely grateful ! I am just negotiating with dealer to buy a Nissan leaf used car ! only 24 k miles on it . it's SV and very good condition. TRPLE AAA charging points is a good info !

[@josecarranza7555]

Did you end up buying a leaf?

[@OLIVER949OC2]

Doesnt the quick charge kill the cells un hour battery

[@thomashalikas4812]

important to check that the used leaf has 12 bars on the battery capacity

[@MsSomeonenew]

Well sadly you can't rely on that, in reality you would need to drive it from a full charge down to zero to really check.

[@randomuser1105]

MsSomeonenew You don't need to drive the car from a full charge to zero to know the battery capacity. Just check the bars like the OP said.

[@martyjohnson5543]

Yes!!!!! I bought a 2011 in 2015 with 10 bars, thought the battery was good. It did not drop to the magic number 7 until after 60 months. I did at least 40 hours of research, and never saw that 12 bars was the max, not 10. Also, I never saw that 2011 batteries ran hot and fail. I now get @ 18 miles to the charge, and only 7 bars that drop to 4 within 5 miles. 66,000 miles. Thanks to you guys there is much more info,

[@martyjohnson5543]

@Design I stopped paying on it, the bank never picked it up. Said it was junk. It is sitting at a junk yard with no title. Now I got a repo, but I don't have 8000 to pay for a mistake. I know it was not the best solution, but crap rolls downhill. Please share what you would have done. It would make an interesting topic.

[@martyjohnson5543]

@Design BTW, I bought an extended warranty for 3000, but it did not cover electric car batteries, and that is why I bought it. They refunded the prorated amount, but not the whole thing. They typed on the paperwork, EV package, but it was not. First time I got screwed, but it was big.

[@TheLawl26]

Question: if the charging stations are full of other EV’s and those cars are done charging are you stuck? Are you at the mercy of the owners to come back so you can charge? I see this as a big problem at malls, while working etc?

[@Pining_for_the_fjords]

I don't know about anywhere else but here in the UK, using an Ecotricity rapid charger, it automatically unlocked from my car when it reached 100%, so somebody else was able to plug in their car before I returned.

[@Pining_for_the_fjords]

@ferkemall There was a parking space beside mine and the charger was placed in front of and between the two spaces.

[@specks_alot]

What level 2 charger do you use and how much was that? Did you have to install a 220 outlet ? I assume we can buy extra factory portable chargers?

[@snip_king428]

Not to mention no oil changes, etc...

[@WadeMcLure]

Well, car payments don't really matter as a comparison because they are so subjective

[@dotnetdevni]

I’ve been looking at this in Uk 2014 leaf with 30 thousand miles for 8900 uk do u think thst a good deal it said that was owned battery.

[@Pining_for_the_fjords]

Why have the charging companies still not implemented simple card payments? It would be so much simpler than having to connect through a phone app.

[@DirectCurrentRides]

EVgo does. It would be easier if they all had it.

[@jdnrotterdam2150]

I can’t charge at my house. No parking at front of my house. Just a parking spot at the end of the street,

[@Brian-om2hh]

Do you have a gas pump at home? And is not having one there a problem?

[@jdnrotterdam2150]

@@Brian-om2hh no but fill up gas is 5 minutes and those are everywhere

[@countteddy]

Ive had my ENV200 since june....and so far ive saved £1700 in fuel costs......and here in the uk shes tax free ......win win........

[@Ngan.marianguyen]

Thank u so much! V useful😍🔥❤️

[@iKaGe01]

I'm looking at buying one now. You can find a UK Tekna 30kWh for 11-13k now. Been so tempted to take a loan out and get it :( Just not sure on the money outlay. I could get a 5 year making the cost around 180 a month. With savings, about 120 a month (apart from electric). I could then sell after 3 years and pay off the loan. Not a finance expert but not sure if this is the best way. Only way I can make the monthly payments low enough. The new Leaf and every other suitable is too expensive

[@sharonbraselton4302]

buy it

[@iKaGe01]

@@sharonbraselton4302 I did :p Got a 30kWh Tekna before prices shot up, for £10,698 a year 1/2 ago. Can currently sell it for what I bought it for

[@sharonbraselton4302]

@@iKaGe01 goodvfór yíú

[@TommyboyGTP]

Awesome content, subbed

[@Annekarla]

I am in Charlotte also. Who did you hire to install the juice box? How much did they charge?

[@DirectCurrentRides]

Anne Gessner my dad is actually handy, and we only had to run about 2 feet of wire, so I bought all the supplies and he did the wiring. The charger is pretty much an easy mount and plug.

[@Annekarla]

MFP - Driving Habits You are lucky! I am also lurking on the Carvana listings.

[@DirectCurrentRides]

Anne Gessner I feel like Carvana is jacking their prices up on EVs because they know they are selling. I still like Carvana as a business, but shop around for prices :)

[@Lilmiket1000]

Question, if you don't have a high voltage line or quick charger do they have adapters you can use that can connect to like a dryer or oven outlet or something?

[@George-nn8ui]

Lakario Davis there is a company that has a connector for your dryer female end I just don’t recall the name of it.

[@roadstar499]

whats the range on this 2015 leaf?? i need a car that can drive 120 plus miles on a charge... also is there a charger that you can buy that charges car in 12 hours ... i don't need a super fast charger,but 20 hours is a little to long...also how much did that fancy charger cost you??? and when using it is electric cost the same to keep car charged as th stock cheap charger??? thanks for sharing

[@sharonbraselton4302]

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[@gmcjetpilot]

The LEAF SV is much better than a "S" with Technology (LED headlights, hybrid heater, full screen radio head unit and CHAdeMO. fast DC charge an option on the S) . I paid only $800 more or my SV than the S in this video.... Only S drivers justify not having the good stuff :-). CHAdeMO is the least used feature on my LEAF... Yep 80% in 40 minutes is fast, but I get charged at home LEVEL 2, from 20% to 100% in 4 hrs. Also battery life suffers with fast charge, Nissans LEAF battery we all know is not liquid cooled. Also CHAdeMO is not common.Some Nissan dealers have it, but it is not common and you can't (would not) want it at home. Again Fast DC charge kills the battery if done often.If there is some long trip it would be handy but likely hood of finding one where and when you need it is slim. Battery replacement will kill your savings in the end. However it is zero emission, but EV's are not money savers, especially if you buy one new. The $7500 gift from Federal Gov is going away.... Good, I am for free market and not car welfare if they can't compete.

[@Jotaj3]

Looks like Charlotte NC!

[@CCK2736]

Im sorry but if this video was uploaded in 2018 and your showing a sign with $2.29/gal for gas then i have but one question to ask...What universe do you live in where gas is that low?

[@DirectCurrentRides]

Joe Baldwin gas is currently $2.64 in Charlotte NC and a little bit cheaper just over the Border in South Carolina

[@MsSomeonenew]

Every region has it's own pricing and it constantly changes. If you want the accurate numbers for yourself then punch in your regional prices, for gas and electricity.

[@neilthecellist]

Protip, apps like Google Maps will show you gas prices by region. The AAA app shows you by list too.

[@dijonmustard549]

2.16 in Houston in 2019

[@bazzamow7031]

Really good for but the savings a not as good as imagine, by time you pay for the car you haven't really saved much money

[@DirectCurrentRides]

I think that's how buying things works.

[@yvettemorales-betancourt3909]

I saw a reply to a comment about the health of your battery and you said yours was still at 12 bars. I’m looking at possibly buying one and the seller is saying 7/12 for the battery. What exact does that mean?

[@DirectCurrentRides]

That means it only has about 55% of its original battery capacity. You'd be lucky to get 40 miles out of it.

[@krc9464]

im looking to buy my first car, will a leaf be a good option?

[@MsSomeonenew]

If you have short routes then it works great, but will take a very long time with any cross country trips. You can still do it, just takes half an hour or more to refill.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

yesz itvis

[@geoffdearth7360]

I'm a Duke Power shareholder so thank you.

[@DirectCurrentRides]

No problem. I will gladly give Duke an extra $35/mo any time instead of forking over $150/mo to BP.

[@mikymike1820]

Looks like except driving around the town, it cannot be taken seriously as option to drive. Poor range (75-100 mile) and long time to "take a gas" aka charge (30 min or 20 hours at home) are unacceptable for a long trips, anything over 100 miles (good luck to have road trip from Chicago,IL to LA, CA). Still, cannot understand, why LEAF doesn't recharge itself when breaking, like Prius does. It would significantly lower the need to charge and increase the range. Also, why nobody bothers to consider costs/risks of producing KW of electricity (i.e. possible nuclear plant failure, coal electric plants to produce electricity etc.) . Additionally, how about LEAF's battery degradation that would give additional costs. Overall, currently I believe that hybrids cars are much better option for savings both environment and money. Electric cars could be good option, but probably not at this point yet......

[@DirectCurrentRides]

You should probably do a little more research

[@sharonbraselton4302]

wrig

[@JodBronson]

NICE !!!

[@smoothvelvetsinger]

I'm buying one

[@collanchavez]

Perfect

[@kyliefan7]

It’s not economical or good on space for us to have another car and I go to the main office every other week and it’s 125 miles total so I guess the leaf is outta question.

[@MsSomeonenew]

Well you would need the newer one with more range, but that gets expensive.

[@kennygaming208]

New leafs can go 151 miles

[@sharonbraselton4302]

buy i 3 188 or new leaf 226 nioe

[@kyliefan7]

@@sharonbraselton4302 No…I bought a 2019 Bolt EV Premier in 2020 and love it!!

[@1232bluejays]

It will be more than just tires for maintenance. They still have suspension parts that wear. And who knows what electrical problems could happen. That's a huge unknown

[@johnfitbyfaithnet]

how do car insurance rates compare?

[@DirectCurrentRides]

Depends on specific car, area, and company. I switched to Geico and my monthly insurance payment for the Leaf went from $110 to $66

[@johnfitbyfaithnet]

@@DirectCurrentRides thank you for the reply

[@jimjones5644]

Well you're missing one big cost a $10,000 battery that you going to replace in a couple years

[@DirectCurrentRides]

I won't have it that long. And even if I did and it got down to only getting 40 miles per charge, that's still plenty to get me back and forth to work and run errands. Also there's really no telling how much a replacement is. I've heard $4000, $8000, you said $10000.... Who knows 🤷

[@terrancedactielle5460]

I doubt anyone would pay $10000 for a battery in a car worth $8000. Its true that the thermal management makes the 1st generation leaf have degradation issues but for that is reflected in the price of the vehicle second hand. Most new EVs have thermal management systems making battery replacements a rare occurrence and degradation levels have improved hugely hence why most manufacturers guarantee the battery for 8 years.

[@jimjones5644]

@@terrancedactielle5460 problem is my battery cost $100 replace not 10,000 And by time are you going to go sell your fabulous EVs they are going to be worth of absolutely nothing

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@jimjones5644 You obviously aren't aware that an EV battery can be refurbished for a fraction of the cost of a new battery..... Here in the UK we have independent EV specialists who are able to do that. One of them posted a KZbin video of a battery refurb on a 10 year old Leaf. It took 4 hours and cost £600....

[@jimjones5644]

@@Brian-om2hh yeah I'm sure it's done by a Magic Unicorn too

[@mrofnocnon]

Hi there old friend, mind if I plug my car in?

[@Annekarla]

Where do you get your car serviced?

[@DirectCurrentRides]

Anne Gessner I've only taken it in once to Scott Clark Nissan. I'd take it to pretty much any Nissan dealership though.

[@Annekarla]

I went to Rock Hill Nissan to look at a car. The sales staff really knew nothing about the car. They assured me that the mechanics would know how to service the car, but I am a little doubtful.

[@DirectCurrentRides]

Anne Gessner That's why I went to Scott Clark. A lot of the sales and service staff drive them. I asked for someone specifically that knew about the cars before I test drove a brand new one about a year ago.

[@nicolef5729]

If i buy a used car from 2011, should I replace the battery?

[@DirectCurrentRides]

If it needs it. If you're looking at a Leaf that's almost needs a new battery it should be VERY cheap. If it still has 40 miles of range and you only drive 6 miles per day, then it could be fine for a bit. The problem comes when the overall voltage of the battery gets too low.

[@johnwang9914]

Keep in mind that the Leafs use the Chademo connector for DC fast charging but are abandoning the connector in future EV's. The Chademo still outnumbers the combo standards in North America but as the previously established, the Chademo charging stations that are more likely to be in need of maintenance and though new installations of charge stations typically have two CCS plugs and one Chademo, this will likely not continue as the lone defender of Chademo in North America, Nissan, abandons it for the same standard as everyone else except Tesla. And no, the European connectors are not the same as the ones used in North America. For one the IEC plug used in Europe supports three conductors in addition to the combined two DC conductors, and can use three phase AC while the North American standard developed by California only supports two conductors hence it only supports the line ti neutral 110/120 vac and the line to line 220/240 vac. The standard also allows for those two pins to be used with DC charging in what's called DC 1 charging in much the same fashion that Tesla uses thei AC conductors for their DC charging but no one implemented DC 1 and what we see are the separate two DC conductors that are attached in the combined connector. As to communication, there is a cp line and a pp line. The pp line only allows both the charging station and car to know when the plug is being disconnected so they can both stop the DC current before creating a large arc. The CP line is a pulse modulated line from the car to the charge station, basically a square wave where the width or the square pulse represents the amount of power the car says it can take. Calling it communication is a bit rich. The Tesla's of course exchanges the car's identifier both for billing but more for preventing non Tesla's from using the supercharger regardless of any third party adapter. Normally Tesla removes wrecked Tesla id's from the database but rumour has it that after the last update, wrecked Tesla id's have been working, whether this is a glitch or intentional, we don't know.

[@gogee5]

So it’s a pain in the ass for road trips? Wouldn’t feel comfortable in middle of nowhere

[@DirectCurrentRides]

It's not made for road trips. You shouldn't do road trips in it.

[@daviddrake6875]

@General Smedley Butler Remember it was a compliance car and still is. With Nissans conflict of interest I am surprised they put a bigger battery in.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

wrng

[@wadeatkinson4766]

How does the A/C work in HOT climates?

[@wadeatkinson4766]

ferkemall huum

[@sharonbraselton4302]

10 orc4 or 14 kine decreased

[@MrChonkers]

200$/month is not enough incentive for most drivers to go from SUV to a small EV and deal with the cables and charging times.

[@MsSomeonenew]

Depends on what you need and how you use it. For the vast majority of city dwellers SUV is completely unnecessary, they just get them because it's a cool thing to do now. And city folk almost never go further then 50miles so these cars work fine, and if you simply plug it in when you park that is all the charging taken care of, going to the pumps is a pain in the ass just the same.

[@CryptoFeez]

Me too I just got a 2013

[@Rhaman68]

Observation: the 120v Leaf factory EVSE can be upgraded by at least one company to a 120/240 volt unit. The 240 volt adapter is for a NEMA 14-50 plug. The upgrade is about $250 but check online. This means a L2 charger for home can be avoided and a less costly NEMA 14-50 outlet will do the job well. It also means the car can be plugged in and charged at campgrounds that have this NEMA 14-50 plug for campers/motor homes. The Tesla Model 3 has this type of EVSE. Thanks

[@jewelthompson4210]

Thank you, this video is amazingly informative Quick question about the info @1:07 198+110 =$308 so do you pay $308 a month on the car or is that $110 insurance included in the monthly payment of $198 for the car.

[@DirectCurrentRides]

My car payment is $198 and I actually just switched to GEICO and saved 15% or more. Actually more. I now pay $66/mo

[@josemanuel2244]

How much for the juice Charger?

[@DirectCurrentRides]

It's normally $550. I got it on sale for $500

[@johndaviscarroll]

What was the battery health of the car when you bought it?

[@DirectCurrentRides]

John Davis Carroll I still have 12 bars

[@DGA2000]

How many years is the life of the battery pack?

[@curtphillipps975]

DGA2000 supposed to be 10 years mine is a 14 I still have all my bars

[@Brian-om2hh]

Depends how you drive it and treat it. How long does an i.c. car's engine last?

[@rodmyers7420]

would you still buy a leaf if the local dealer is "anti" EV?

[@DirectCurrentRides]

I don't mind that as much, but I'm pickier about service. The dealership I take mine to if I need anything done has several employees that drive them. One of the many reasons I bought from Carvana was because most of the auto dealers in the Charlotte area have made it so Tesla has been banned from selling directly to customers and on top of that, the Tesla location in Charlotte can't even give anyone a test drive, which is absurd.

[@MrFgarcia140]

Love your car

[@niceboy60]

30 Miles return Trip is not enough range

[@alexander1982miller]

New battery $6400 177 mi range

[@jakeroadtonowhere4070]

in the future electric cars will be killed off.,it cost you about £7 .71 in some parts of the UK to charge your car .,not to mention the monthly fee some company charger.,and the price of that is only going to go up in the future

[@wynnames49]

eloquently put

[@Brian-om2hh]

What monthly fee might that be? I bought my charger. It belongs to me, and I pay no monthly fee to use it. And the cost of petrol isn't going to go up then? The cost of electricity cannot be hugely increased for one simple reason. Hospitals, industry, schools, care homes, and millions of people - some of whom are on low incomes - all depend on electricity as a staple necessity. Increasing the cost hugely would simply wreck the economy and push thousands further into fuel poverty. And if legislation suddenly requires meters to be fitted to individual electric car chargers, some people (including me) will simply unplug the TV before I go to bed, and charge my car using that socket at the normal domestic rate, and not some trumped up rate applied to electric cars....... If electric cars will be killed off in the future, why have VW just invested 800 billion (yes BILLION) Euros in three new car plants over three Continents, to produce electric vehicles exclusively? Why have new electric cars sales increased by 186% in the UK during 2019 if they are going to be killed off? Why is the Tesla Model 3 the UK's best selling car in 2020? Why have Gridserve invested millions to build 100 huge EV charging hubs - each with around 30 rapid chargers - all over the UK, if electric cars will be killed off? Why are BMW going to have 12 new 100% electric cars in their showrooms by 2023 if they are going to be killed off? What type of cars will be available after the end of 2029 if it will be illegal to sell new petrol and diesel cars in the UK? And where do you get £7.71 from? I charge my car up for free at my local Sainsburys while I buy food. I think it would have been considerably easier for you just to type I KNOW SOD ALL ABOUT ELECTRIC CARS.

[@jakeroadtonowhere4070]

@@Brian-om2hh The cost of leasing the batteries for a new EV varies depending on how many miles the car is going to do. A driver doing 6000 miles a year in a new Renault Zoe ZE 40 will pay £59 a month to lease the batteries; this rises to £99 a month for a car doing 10,500 miles a year.21 Feb 2019.,electric car will travel 3.5 miles per kWh on average, to travel 100 miles would cost around £4 or 4p per mile. And if that increases in the future ., and if you think petrol is going to disappear the amount of tax the government make on petrol I don't think so

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@jakeroadtonowhere4070 There is only one electric car on the UK market with the option of a leased battery. The Renault Zoe. There are no others. The UK Government is to introduce a system of road tolls to replace fuel duty one the EV tipping point is reached. Don't you watch the news? Once the UK Government quit subsidising the oil industry to the tune of billions of pounds per year, they'll have a little more cash to play with.... If the cost of electricity rises, then so does the cost of petrol and diesel by default. Oil refineries use *lots* of electricity..... My Kia typically costs 2.5p per mile.....

[@sharonbraselton4302]

wrbg

[@tudocervera3764]

nice ..

[@Lilmiket1000]

god 251 and 198 are both very affordable. Im trying to get an electric car for work. but I drive about 40 miles each way :-(

[@Lilmiket1000]

Hey that was charlotte in the video lol. thats where I am

[@arminmoridi1025]

Lakario Davis gotta drive 25 in freeways 😝

[@kennygaming208]

They go 150 miles on a charge, older ones go about 90, You could probably use the emergency charger at work if you didn't trust it

[@samusaran7317]

Maybe get a job closer to home. Take back roads even...

[@sharonbraselton4302]

get ev rav 4 ec 113 mikecrabge gn ev 1 one smart car

[@johnsavage6628]

Why aren't super capacitors used in electric cars instead of batteries? A capacitor suffers no battery decline. It simply gives up the energy stored within it.

[@rodmyers7420]

If closest Nissan dealer is anti EV, if the car needs a softwae update(rare?) I have to drive 120 miles. And recharge maybe twice on the way back home up 5000 ft.

[@laserflexr6321]

Dealers dont like them cause they make a lot of money servicing and repairing the vehicles they sell. A whole lot less routine maintenance and less stuff to go wrong with an EV. In the not to distant future if something does go wrong with the powertrain in in an EV you pull a pin to disengage the drive shaft, unplug the power cable and lift the entire motor out and put another in 5 minute powertrain swap. Same with the battery, pull over a drop station unplug the battery, throw a lever to release the battery, lower it with a lift, roll the car to the pickup station, lift the replacement battery in place, throw the lever to secure the battery to the car, plug the battery in. From 0% to 100% in 5 minutes. You can update the operating system on your cell phone just by clicking an icon, why do you have to go to a dealer to update the software in your car?

[@mryusuf9295]

Evs rule the world

[@dobson777a]

Level 2 charger was not free. How much? Probably spent $1000 for the charger and another $700 to install. This significantly eats into your profit. Why did you leave this cost out?

[@DirectCurrentRides]

Because it's going to vary greatly for each person. Usually, yes it's going to be about $500 for a charger and around $700 for an install. My case was much cheaper at $565 total. Considering I've saved over $2,300 in fuel since I bought the car, I think it was a good investment.

[@dobson777a]

@@DirectCurrentRides to do a proper comparison you need to include the total cost of ownership. How long before you need to replace your battery? Warranty is 100k miles but only likely for original owner. You can finance a new battery for $100/month or buy outright for $5400 not including labor. That is a lot of money you could have kept feeding your previous ICE vehicle. Additionally some states like GA have an additional advalorem tax on any vehicle purchased which eats into your overly simplified cost savings. If you own a 2011 to 2015 Nissan LEAF, replacing the battery will cost you exactly $5,499, plus installation, which the company estimates will take about 3 hours. Owners of 2011 and 2012 cars must also add $225 for a special adapter kit to retrofit the new battery to their cars.Oct 4, 2017 CleanTechnica › 2017/10/04 Nissan LEAF Replacement Battery Cost = $5,499 | CleanTechnica

[@DirectCurrentRides]

@@dobson777a Well it sounds to me like you don't need need any of this explained to you. I am most likely going to keep this car until it dies and then I'll sell it to whoever wants it for parts for what I can get. I'm doing a video soon on where it's at now and how much degradation the battery has.

[@dobson777a]

@@DirectCurrentRides one more thing. How could you have already saved $2k when you paid $9k including charger costs and deducting selling your Honda. It will be over six years before you actually save any money.

[@DirectCurrentRides]

@@dobson777a Simple math.

[@jaytate491]

Hawaii is 1.00 a kw/r california will follow and so will the rest of the states. When the main charge source is electricity then you can bet that will go even higher and people with gas cars will be glad they didnt go full electric. Hybrids and plugins make sense however, especially plugins which give you the chance to go with whatever is cheapedt.

[@DirectCurrentRides]

A plug-in hybrid is definitely a step in the right direction! A little too mechanically complicated, but not bad.

[@daviddrake6875]

Glad I have free level 2 and DCFC stations around me within 20 miles plus I drive 20 miles down an 8 to 10% grade and pick up 50 to 60 miles.

[@elihutch7193]

2 dollar gas.. I miss those days

[@SolnaABDick]

So what about NISSAN using predatory battery replacement practices for gen 1 battery replacement. Priced so that your car is worth nothing as the battery cost is in most cases worth more than the car. Buyer beware. Note: In buying any EV include a one liner in your purchase contract: Purchaser will be able to purchase a replacement battery for $XXXX or less at their discretion not the manufactures. Protect yourself!!!

[@paftaf]

McGoo x Do you have a Leaf? Actual Leaf owners seem overwhelmingly happy.

[@SolnaABDick]

Yes I own a Leaf, the happy ones may be prepared to put up with reduced mileage, I am not. NISSAN is forcing gen 1 owners to dump their vehicles by inflating replacement battery cost. Why sell you a battery when they feel they can suck you into buying a new car. Jokes on them Can you you say Nero (:

[@paftaf]

McGoo x Which year is your leaf? GID? Mileage?

[@sharonbraselton4302]

by nw ev

[@typhoon320i]

You pay $110 insurance per month for one $11,000 car? I pay $178 a month for 6 cars!

[@MsSomeonenew]

Depends on the region and the type of insurance, it's not all the same thing.

[@pol1250]

110 is really too much...

[@xboxice2005]

Your CRV is 120 a month shit im lucky to get a week outta my petrol Pajero for the same amount of coins :(

[@jimjones5644]

Yeah but you're not taking any account all the costs that what about the $20,000 battery at you got to replace my only cost $100 in my car

[@DirectCurrentRides]

It's not $20k. I won't have to replace it. Bye.

[@jimjones5644]

@@DirectCurrentRides it's not yet but just give them some time it went from $5,000 up to like $10,000 just because Nissan wanted to and guess what you can't go to Radio Shack and buy one so you are screwed it's $10,000 already and yes you will You actually think that battery is going to last forever now you're delusional

[@DirectCurrentRides]

@@jimjones5644 I won't have it that long. It'll be someone else's problem. Bye.

[@jimjones5644]

@@DirectCurrentRides and I'm sure you get a whopping $500 for it

[@DirectCurrentRides]

@@jimjones5644 thanks. People like you are the reason I don't make videos anymore. Go bother someone else.