Buying A Watch From An Authorized Dealer (AD) - 7 Tips - Federico Talks Watches

[@ProfaneEquinox]

This sort of relates but in a different category. I know a sales man for Maserati, he says that the guys who come dressed in suits, with rolex's on and such will come check out the cars and test drive them but never buy them. The people who walk in wearing sweatpants and sweatshirt will leave buying a car. These dealers have to know that they never know whom they are dealing with. So like Frederico said dont be intimidated its always a fun experience to look at the most luxurious of watches!

[@redbird963]

I happened to be at a Patek dealer to see if my Tissot could be serviced, and the sales associates were super friendly. I told them that I admired Pateks and could be ZERO means afford them, but after a few minutes of chatting I was handed a loupe and a grand complication(5270R) to look at. When I left(and I didn't even spend a dime), they gave me a catalog and hardcover collection book for free.

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Sounds like a fantastic AD... I am sure, if and when you are the market for a Patek, you will consider buying it there after your positive experience...

[@Yoshikaable]

I had a similar experience at Omega. I am young so it meant a lot to me. They let me try on a speed masters moon watch and a ploprof. It was awesome, the manager game me his card, and I plan to go back and get a watch some day. Although I'm young , I have worked in wine sales for 2 years, which was really fun. I would help people pick out gifts, and of course sell a lot of things. The trick was to not go over their budget, and to know when to say "I don't know, but let me ask my manager who can help". Break someone's trust and theres no redemption. Demonstrate loyalty in order to get respect. Etc.

[@LemtemPoktui]

You make excellent points. However I have something I wanna add to the sixth point, the one you said don't talk money until you're ready to buy. When I go window shopping (which is all the time), within the first 5 minutes I let the sales associate know that I'm not buying today. To me it is very important to make sure they know, especially on a crowed day. So that they don't spend 30 minutes with me and missed an opportunity to close a sale with someone else. But I do notice if the day is slow, they will entertain you and sometimes even give you their best discounts although I told them I'm not buying.

[@marcgoldbergdogtrainer]

I rarely ever want to buy from the AD but this is good advice. It's amazing to me how many people will talk price and even scoff or argue with a sales associate when in reality they have no intention to buy soon. Why put yourself in an adversarial position with someone trapped behind a counter just for fun? Even if you're seriously negotiating, giving a hard time to the decision-makers is never a good idea. As you say, a little courtesy goes a long way.

[@Teachering]

I am one of those easily intimidated by high-end watch dealers. This video has helped ease my fears. Some very good advice offered.

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Cheers my friend. No reason to be intimidated... They are usually wonderful people!

[@jigrodrigues]

Federico seems really nice and he sounds like he knows what he's talking about. He also has a very nice taste in watches (IMO).

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Hi JI, I can't find your previous comment on my homage video for some reason... I didn't not mean for it to be rude... Sometimes the tone on written responses gets lost... I simply wanted to disagree with you and wrote that this had been discussed before in the comments. Apologies if it came across as rude...

[@jigrodrigues]

+Federico I (Federico Talks Watches) hi, I've stumbled upon this comment, I don't know what happen to the other one (i think you re referring to the homage/replica video). That is quite alright, I am the one to apilogise, i've over reacted. Of course sometimes we will disagree and I respect your point of view. Keep up the great vids.

[@blazejewiczk]

I have one dealer who treats me well! I know he is trying to make the sale, but I would buy a watch from him than from anywhere else. I had multiple people who looked at me and say: "You cannot afford this watch!" and walk away and don't even see what I wear atm! Even the dealer trying to sell me a watch, my biggest turn off is when people tell me: "you cannot afford it!" The person who I deal with knows that I can pay for the items! Thanks for the video.

[@iammaximus614]

Never Judge a Book by its cover 📖😎👍🏽

[@johnrycroft4855]

When both parties can depend on each other for honesty and integrity, both side win! I have been following almost the same approach for quite sometime; it works. Your video offers some great pointers and it's all common sense. Buying from an AD can be a great part of the whole watch collecting experience. Also, I like having the warranty security that comes with buying from the dealer. Building a relationship with a shop puts both the customer and dealer at ease; it's good business. Thanks Federico, very good tips!

[@rkowed]

My first AD experience was a few years ago. I was young. I always had a fascination with watches. I walked into the main area where the less expensive watches were. but when I wanted to look at the more expensive watches like Rolex etc... I was not buzzed in. I started chatting with a lady who worked there ( extremely good looking) and after she knew my intension was just too look, she gave me a tour. she even let me try on a Rolex. she was really nice and if i could have, I would have left with a watch right then and there.

[@LumeShot]

Thank you for the video F. Being only 19, I was intimidated when going to Rolex and Omega dealers in 5th avenue. How I overcame this is by visiting as many AD as possible and they were mostly all wonderful. Very professional and ended up having very enjoyable discussions with some of the more knowledgeable associates.

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Glad you had a good experience Yoon!

[@j0nnY77x]

I wish I could work at a Rolex AD it's seems like I would really enjoy selling and talking up a watch to customer hoping they would buy it.

[@PaulThorpeOfficial]

Good video, very sound professional advice. My only issue with AD's is they will sometimes misrepresent the truth (or) spread false rumours to stop clients from buying from non AD's. The latest one is that its the 'named owner' not the WATCH that's under warranty. That is simply false information. Enjoy your vids Federico, if you're ever in the UK look me up my friend. Regards, Paul.

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Paul glad you enjoyed it! You are right, but I like to think it isn't a very common practice... Which is why ultimately it is up to the customer too educate himself... I will definitely give you a buzz if I am across the pond!

[@pederlindstrom3132]

Greetings from northen Sweden and a fellow watch entusiast. I stop in at a few AD in town, they are run by two brothers and their kids. I have always been treated nice, even the first time when I walked in to one of them on my way from work,, I am a mechanic on city buses so imagine what I looked like. Very nice and respectful people.

[@ubaldoguzman8949]

Federico That was a great video. I am getting ready to buy my first new watch from an AD and a video like this is exactly what I needed.

[@BeautyofScent]

erbody thumbs up for federio. he gives good advice much better than the competitions.

[@sound-flies]

so agree with you😀

[@tknmn]

Went to Wempe a few years ago while on vacation just to check out some watches. I was wearing a Seiko Orange Monster but was looking at watches that were way higher priced than that. You were great and basically allowed me to try on as many watches as I wanted. I wasn't specifically looking to purchase that day, but you made the experience enjoyable and non-threatening.

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

I REMEMBER! You were the only customer that I ever met with an orange monster! Wow what a coincidence... I am glad I made the experience a good one!

[@SelviaResearch]

Incredibly useful video Federico. I just graduated from college in May and with some savings I wanted to buy a nice piece for myself to serve as a reminder of a milestone. I went to school in Manhattan and every time I would walk past AD shops (Omega, Rolex, etc.) I just couldn't walk in as I was intimidated by all the gold adorning those stores. You've hit the nail in the head with your first advice, sometimes it's hard to walk in wearing a tracksuit or a book bag. After watching TGV and yourself for sometime I eventually bought it online from a grey market dealer. Keep up the awesome videos. Hope your subs shoot way up!

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Go to Wempe on fifth avenue... They are the NICEST!

[@huratan]

Generally very sound advice here in the video. I think one point to make is that if I were the salesperson, I would always qualify the sale before entering into a negotiation. If somebody asks for a discount, I would ask for their commitment to do the deal immediately if I were to accommodate said discount. As to Federico's point, the salesperson is just negotiating against themselves and I think this is a universal truth in all sales; never negotiate against yourself. I think the biggest challenge today is the supply of watches is quite low in Canada for Rolex. Thus, ADs have a strong amount of demand and a limited supply. There is little need to discount the pieces and ultimately the consumer does not benefit from the AD route.

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Rolex is not discounted much anyway... But I know a few canadian ADs that play ball...

[@harryireland1935]

Those are great tips, Federico. I have a 2 year plan to obtain a Rolex Sub. I certainly will not get that from the internet, but only from a Rolex authorized dealer. Not really experienced in negotiating with them, but I'll keep your tips in mind, especially the luxury gifts you mentioned. Thank you!

[@Claus-L.Mueller]

Hi Federico, On my first visit to an AD I was a bit nervous. But it was a very nice experience. We've got two AD's only 30 meters away from each other. So I did what you suggested and and leave the first store, because they are not willing to give me a 12% discount on my Nomos Ahoi. Which IMHO isn't an unreasonable amount of money. I went over to the Wempe boutique on the other side of the road and was treated even better there. And they haven't got a problem with the discount at all. Because of my good experience I bought my Nomos Orion also from Wempe. Lately I was a bit concerned about buying my first Rolex from an AD. I've seen high discounts from dealers on Chrono24 and I'm afraid to loose several hundred Euros the moment I leave the Wempe boutique with my new Rolex... Best regards, Claus

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Claus, Wempe are amazing. I used to work for them! As far as Rolex goes, which model are you interested in purchasing. If it isn't a sports model, you may be able to get a good discount as well.

[@eh_lio7230]

Dear Claus, did i missed It or didn't you made videos about these two watches and if you didn't made videos on them I would like to know why because i would really like to see them Best regards

[@Claus-L.Mueller]

***** It is going to be the OP 114300 with the rhodium dial.

[@Claus-L.Mueller]

eh_lio Yes, I did videos. At least of the Ahoi.

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Try a smaller AD that is not Wempe... I am sure they can get very close to grey market price...

[@dingodango1]

walked into Wempe looking for a BLNR. They didn't have one until I mentioned that I had been to 8 other ADs and was ready to buy today. a BLNR magically appeared from the back and everything changed. the attitude of the sales people became very positive and I purchased the GMT II.

[@opulenceluxury8548]

Very useful Frederico, I am going to purchase my first £1000+ watch from an AD. Being English I find haggling excruciating, but your insight has given me the confidence to try. I enjoy the retail expierience.

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Opulence, thanks for the kind words. If there is mutual respect, haggling doesn't have to be bad. Just stick to your guns as we say here in the US!

[@melikhovhannisyan8739]

Hey Federico ! I’m nee to watch collection in fact didn’t purchase my first watch yet doing my homework kind off. Watched some of your videos and I appreciate your opinion and knowledge. This was a helpful video still have a lot more to watch I guess I have a few options 1 IWC - 2 Glashutte Original- 3 Rolex 4 Omega 5 Hublot Any advice on these brands ?

[@medgasguy]

Uh I've never bought a watch through an AD, it's always been through shopping channels or shopping programs that air watch shows. And I'll tell you a nightmarish thing that happened to me. I ordered the 50th anniversary of the Omega Seamaster 300M GMT and found out years later that what grey market dealers were doing was polishing off the serial numbers from this particular watch. It wasn't until years later when I went into an authorized Omega dealer to trade up for a watch that the sales person informed me that the serial number was missing. Needless to say I was horrified and embarrassed not doing my research enough to even check for missing serial numbers, I mean who knew that this sort of thing happens?

[@fkurcik]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but price negotiation is a peculiar thing. I don't know how often this happens, but in my estimation it happens only if the seller desperately wants to move the stock or if the buyer is a returning customer with very good reputation. I think that discounting poses a certain risk to the seller, because if the supplier learns about this and doesn't like it, he might stop supplying the product. Also, other customers might feel ripped off, if they see someone else getting substantial discount.

[@diegofallas9119]

Great advice.... I have purchased 2 items at the New York 5th avenue big fancy stores... at Cartier and Gucci long time ago and I was in my 20's. It is a bit intimidating or at least it was for me then. But as soon as the salesperson started the convrsation they were really friendly, informative and nice. So you really made a point, just walk in and ask what you need or want to kmow about the item you want.

[@Kamikazekman]

I can't agree with you more about being courteous! Worked in retail for quite some time and it baffles me how some people just DON'T get that! Doesn't matter how much you demand, no ones going to do their best to help you if you're being a douche... That old saying, "You catch more flys with honey". Plus it's just common human decency!

[@mountbell1911]

Thank you for this. I'm headed to an AD this afternoon, and I'll use these tips.

[@yogeshgopal4429]

Great Video, really teaches me some new things when dealing w/ ADs One interesting experience was when I was just browsing at a AD. I went in with my son and began looking at this stunning Classic Fusion, right out of nowhere I was hit with 25% off, didn't even ask. I declined to buy it that day. When I was leaving she told me that I was passing up on the best watch I could possibly get ( surprising b/c they also carry Patek and ALS). I felt like she was very pushy. When I had returned to the store to actually try to put a deposit down on the 5712 and curiously asked if they could throw in a pair of cufflinks, she said we will decide if that is possible "IF AND ONLY IF YOU DECIDE TO BUY". She actually went as far as to say "you aren't just pushing me around right?". I asked her why she said that, she said that last time I was in, I simply was looking at watches with no intention of ever buying. Thereafter I immediately asked to speak to a manager, who sympathized with me and offered to throw in a Cartier ring for my wife. I left happy, and quite honestly surprised that there was any wiggle room with that watch.

[@yogeshgopal4429]

You should definitely make one on how to negotiate the prices.

[@BootsWalken]

So glad you covered this topic. The insight from your perspective is much appreciated...I never attempt to negotiate on anything (not just watches) until I am ready to buy with cash in hand, and I always keep in mind that I am trying to build a relationship that will benefit me with future purchases. You want to be known to them as the stand up guy who knows what he wants, not some guy who wastes everybody's time. And being courteous while standing your ground is sound life advice in general....Great vid!

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Thank you sir. And your approach is spot on!

[@kzr83]

Federico, very good tips for people like me who love watches but have not bought from a main dealer (yet!) Your videos and your friendly style are great, thanks so much for sharing your experience, grazie tante! Un abbraccione d'un portoghese in UK.

[@nicholascowen]

I was killing time last week in a shopping centre and decided i'd finally go into the omega AD rather then just look thought the window. Ended up trying on a seamaster and 2 speedmasters. I would say i was surprised by the service but it was a lovely experience and has made me want a seamaster now. Where as before i was on the fence.

[@oneisnone7350]

A video on what constitutes a good deal would be good. I never know for sure if I'm paying a good price...

[@fatshadow2062]

I'll take good information where I can get it, but it really does add a great deal of legitimacy knowing you've been on the other side of the counter. I live in a fairly small town with only a couple dealers offering higher end watches. Unfortunately, my experiences in these places have left me somewhat cold. After listening to you, I can see that I may have contributed to that. I'll keep these things in mind next time as I would much rather support these dealers and keep my money local. Keep up the good work Federico!

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Cheers FT. I am glad you managed to take something away from it!

[@Robert.Dickson]

Hey Federico , great video as usual. I 100% agree regarding negotiating. I sell cars and there's nothing worse than someone trying to negotiate when they are not in the position to buy.

[@felderosa]

Great vid, thanks for the tips! Love the last two about being ready to buy and standing your ground but willing to concede for swag.

[@mhencin]

Thanks for this information. I am just starting my collection and my current grail watch is an Omega Speedmaster moon watch. I usually buy from amazon and Ebay for cost and reliability of sale. I am near the Omega shop in Chicago and avoided it for fear of paying too much. But this has changed my opinion to a degree.

[@RodneyAllanPoe]

One approach that can work is building rapport with the AD. Instead of going in cold to negotiate on a watch you've spent six months researching, go in a few times over a couple of months just to browse and chat with staff. Having a service job done there will also make you known to the staff. Picking up catalogs will also do the same thing I suppose. Then when you want to make a purchase, it won't feel as awkward and intimidating as going in cold.

[@xjsteve]

Great advice Frederico. I purchased my 18kt gold and steel Breitling Chronomat at full retail but the AD removed the all steel bracelet the watch came with and fitted a gold and steel pilot bracelet at my preference; I also received a very high quality Walnut watch winder made by Rapport of London as a free gift. Overall, a great experience and the sales associate was extremely helpful and he couldn't do enough for me. I would definitely buy from an AD again.

[@michaelangelo6947]

In your opinion, will a Grand Seiko hold it's value? Do you think it to be a good investment piece? I really want one for myself, but thinking of it being passed down in time. Thank you. Oh, what's the name of the watch you were wearing?

[@NutriBRO]

Also Federico, I live in Manhattan. Like you said 5th ave is not the place to buy. Expensive tax too. Are there any great ADs you'd recommend around Manhattan or jersey that offer good deals? Something metro accessible preferably!

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Sure... Wempe is great for fifth avenue. If not check out T and R jewelers in New Rochelle, Manfredi in Greenwich or Simpson in Brooklyn...

[@Dangling_Carrot]

Fed great video. However, that goes both ways. I was asked from the word jump are you gonna purchase today my immediate response was are you ready to deal today? I knew she was inexperienced as a sales person.

[@eh_lio7230]

First of all thanks for this very helpful video, a few things I already found out by my self like for example the first one: I am a 16 jeer old boy and i every time i go to an Authorized dealer the dealers are always very polite and treat me with Respect like everybody else even when i wanted to view a watch I definitely haven't got the money for yet (over 10.000€)

[@PhylumFile]

I don't care how old this video is I just watched it and it's great. Planning to go up to Vancouver this weekend to look at Speedmasters and this is great advice. Thanks.

[@CGAWCChannel]

Great tips, thanks for sharing. I've always had a GREAT experience at the AD's i've been to, with the JLC and Omega boutiques being the most fun. My wife always wonders how they will react to my tattoos, but I have found that staff react to the way you carry yourself and communicate above all else. It also doesn't hurt when they realize you know a thing or two about watches. ;-p

[@Hurrileas66]

Great video! Any other tips for shopping at boutiques and not just ADs?

[@steventennies]

Excellent video. Very helpful. I clearly understand that you should not negotiate until you are ready to purchase. Can you provide some guidance as to a reasonable discount to offer or expect when buying watches of the calibre of Tudor and Grand Seiko from an AD?

[@michelecalo1107]

One of my favourite video so far, Federico! Just a question, what is a reasonable discount % we, as costumer, can ask? 10-15%? Thank you very much, very useful indeed! Best regards, Michele.

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

5-30% depending on the piece and your location...

[@krisquaas2558]

Ok Federico, I live In Chicago near the loop, how much do you think I can ask and not seem like a rude 23 year old?

[@michelecalo1107]

He said it depends on the piece, that's probably the most important thing.

[@jackblackwhole]

Have a budget, ask for a best price if you are ready, negotiate if you want a bit more..

[@Terp27]

Frederico, great channel! This question is for anyone. If the AD doesn't have the watch model I want in stock, do I negotiate price like they do have it and put a deposit down on the negotiated price? Or is it better to negotiate on a model the AD has on hand? Or is there no difference? THANKS!

[@ryandarbin6507]

First off, i'm diggin' the shaved head! This video is very helpful for the new collectors like myself. I have never been in an AD, simply due to feeling like I don't belong. Being in an Omega, Rolex, or even a Hamilton AD and not having the funds would take the fun out of it for me. I look forward to coming into an AD with cash in hand (or card in hand), chatting with the sales associate about the watch I am there for, and the handshake after the deal is made. Gotta get the full experience, right? Edit: Do ADs expect anyone to pay the full sticker price, or do they expect people to try for a discount?

[@Golaso99]

Hey Federico, I've watched a few of your videos and really enjoy your style and manner :) I''m rediscovering my passion for watches (when I was around 11 or 12 I had amassed several pieces - mostly junk to be honest! - and I would leave them lying around and my dad would get annoyed that I don't wear any of them). I slowly decimated my collection of crap watches, and got an Omega for my 21st birthday. Almost 6 years later and I've just put a leather strap on the Omega and it's practically a new watch. After doing my research - which has included watching your vids and the vids of TGV - I also just bought an Orient Bambino 2nd gen for just over £100 (absolute bargain) and really like it. Anyway just wanted to say that as a relative newcomer to horology I find your vids very useful and enjoyable! Cheers Chris

[@Kevin-dj7zn]

Super helpful as usual Federico! Your videos are top class! Look forward to them each week!

[@gthack371]

great video, as usual. Just starting out collecting, all second hand vintage pieces so far. Planning on a speedy for my first big buy and had lovely experience in an AD trying one on, made it clear up front that I was just looking and they spent ages with me.

[@David-hs9gh]

solid video Fedirco! I recently purchased my first watch (Tudor BBN).This new hobby can be very addictive. I'm already looking at my next purchase lol.

[@KingdomArmor]

Great advice Federico. Many thanks for your service to this community.

[@thewatchaficionado641]

Absolutely! I work retail jewelry and watches as well, some of these are so spot on its not even funny

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

I used to work jewelry and watch retail is well... My tips aren't a coincidence ;)

[@FranciscoDomene7]

What a great great video, to by in an AD. It’s really intimidating , and a lot of mind control is needed to do the perfect pick and negotiation. Thanks

[@anamisidro8453]

Great tips Federico. I like to by from an AD. I know my watch is authentic, it's easy when you want the piece to be serviced or if there are any other issue. Of course, at least where I live the maximum discount you can hope to have is 30% if the model is discontinued. Anyway, above 1000€ I only go for an AD. Thanks Federico for another great video.

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

30% is a very reasonable discount Anna... Margins on watches are between 37-45% depending on the brand...

[@anamisidro8453]

I guess you are right..

[@mr.bluenotedoobop]

Great stuff Federico! What would you say is a reasonable discount on a new more premium brand like Rolex or Omega? As a consumer, I want to feel like I"m getting a good deal, but I understand these guys work on commission and the store has to keep the lights on. Much appreciated!

[@RafaelKenny]

Hi Federico, I have a question regarding 'reasonable' price. How do you know what price is reasonable to negotiate? Do you take the grey market price and ask for a price similar to that? Thanks before, Ken

[@gearrunner]

I'm just kind of getting started in the watch collecting scene and maybe this question can't be answered on here. What is a reasonable percentage off to ask for at like a Rolex AD? I am looking to buy one around Dec and I don't really plan on even going looking at AD's until I'm ready to buy but didn't even realize they would give you discounts on high end watches. Thank you

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Feel free to email me...

[@katracer]

great video. content, quality, professionalism, and length are spot on.

[@nicholaszarra708]

Great video. I totally agree with your sentiment here. At some point in the future, it would be be great to hear your opinion on the best ways to sell a watch for a collector that may just sell occasionally. Thanks!

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Great video idea!

[@kevincorkery6292]

Thank you for the tip on negotiating price. I have a 7 month window to buy a diamond two tone datejust and was going to discuss price. On a 23k watch I will be looking for a 10% break but will wait till the money is in the bank. Thank you.

[@garretthu2466]

Great reminders! At the end of the day a good gentleman’s accord is above all else. This is a business deal and should be approached with a reasonable and courteous manner. The amount of money is irrelevant and all deals should be handled in the same manner.

[@substrate001]

Thanks for this, Federico.The tips were all quite helpful, but one in particular brought back many great memeories: Catalogs!!! These were the portals I used to remind me of my set goals and achieve dreams when I was young. First it was audio equipment, then cars and firearms. It's really amazing the amout of motivation a beautifully produced catalog can provide. I feel like I got to know a bit about the way you approach your interactions with others in this video. As you mentioned, a little courtesy can go a long way... Nice Job, subscribed!

[@MyLifeInTheDesert]

Firearms lol - must be American

[@kikim2877]

Very nice video Frederico. Very informative . Unfortunately I didn’t find you sooner. I bought 2 watches from one AD and 1 from another in Glendale and didn’t even think about negotiating the price. I didn’t know that was possible. I’m wondering if I could go back and try to get a leather strap from them as thank you for your full priced purchases!!! 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@peterdeluca]

If you buy 2 Rolex watches,,, does buying multiple incentivize the ad to sell you one of the watches there’s a “waitlist” for?

[@rishibawa]

I'm looking to pull the trigger on a Breitling super ocean heritage in the next couple of months. Been visiting a few authorized dealers around MA to get a feel for who might be the best fit. My question is, do you know what a reasonable expectation for discount might be for this brand or just in general? Does it ever make sense to take a price from a gray market or other shop online to see if they can come close? I understand there's so many variables but trying to see how I can get the best deal. Keep up the great work!

[@celestialfix]

Great info Federico. Tell us some stories sometime about people who walked into Wempe. Prolly get a few celebrities who come in to buy there.

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

I definitely will... I think I may be saving it for like a 15,000 sub special...

[@DaOneJoel]

These are really good. Thank you for the content! Can't seem to get ahold of a A&P catalogue, nor order it online. Do you have any tips on how to get ahold of one?

[@XGiveMeLibertyX]

What's the best way to negotiate on a less expensive watch around $1,000? Or even $500 do dealers have much room to play with on cheaper watches?

[@hectordarioescobargomez618]

Hello Federico, i´m new to the hobby, and taking the time to listen to your videos has opened a real interest in watches. I definitively enjoy all the information you give. Hope to grow my watch collection based on a sound knowledge. Superb! Thanks!

[@GTAYLOR1972]

Hi Federico, appreciate the advise. I actually honestly would have never thought of asking for any sort of discount at a Dealer. I guess for me whenever I look at the price tag that is what you have to pay or they will let you walk. Here where I live we have an Omega boutiqe and I am saving for a watch now, do you think an Omega boutique would entertain say a 1 to maybe 5 percent reduction in price or would you recommend shopping at an AD rather than a boutique?

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

boutiques are tough... 1-5% might be possible, but you will have a much better shot at an AD....

[@BroMorris0341]

Excellent vid Fed! Thank you for the much needed gems as well.

[@keekeefries6298]

Frederico - nice tips from someone in the know, thx. Can you do a vid on typical discounts based on different brands at an AD? Rough rule of thumb guide would be fine and awesome to know!

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Can't do that, it would be detrimental to both the ADs and brands...

[@jakubklimek4879]

Hi Frederico, thanks for the great video and sharing pro knowledge, not available to everyone. From your experience, can you easily tell which countries offer the lowest prices for the particular watch brands? For example I've heard prices in Hong Kong AD will be generally lower than AD in Europe.. Great video, thank you. LIKE IT!

[@luisperez9504]

AMAZING video Federico!!! Question, is there a place online to get free catalogues? Thanks!

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Usually on the manufacturers website...

[@austincino]

I had a great visit to Breguet on 5th ave. super nice sales rep and we talked watches from Breguet to his seiko!

[@MrVitamincpp]

Now, when I watch your nice video, and I think of it, I really do not have a single watch bought from an AD. Actually most of the brands I like are micro and don't use the business model with ADs. JDM Seiko I buy mainly from Seyia :)

[@deltropico7]

I enjoy your channel. You're articulate and knowledgeable.

[@TetrixJ]

thank you. Ive been stalking the longings retrograde moon phase for quite a minute. Only got into watches not too long ago but haven't bought my first luxury piece yet. great tips I really hope I can get a good deal

[@Honezjr]

Hey Federico, Love your vids and advice. Do you happen to know if Panerai makes any models for the smaller gents? I have a 7 inch wrist size and most Panerai watches are a little large for me. I love the look and function of them so I want to add one to the stable. But, I just haven't seen any smaller sizes (I currently wear an '08 Seamaster 300M 41mm and it is the perfect size).

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Panerai make 40mm models as well...

[@davidcapes9629]

This is my third video of yours. Excellent information. Subscribed.

[@ibrahimyurtlu]

Very useful info. Many thanks.

[@tameemz90]

And the Lie part is great too, I had a sales rep at Lenkerdorfer's (high end shop in Vienna, VA) tell me the ceramic subs have a new movement compared to the 16613 I was wearing. He was trying to sell me on the watch saying the movement is redesigned, despite it being the same 5513. He also tried to up sell the steel saying that cheap watches like Seiko start pitting and decaying after a few years, which is absolute bull shit. I kindly said okay and left.

[@bmoz9140]

Wow - your best yet ! Great advice. Many thanks

[@amritdhaliwal3413]

Great tips, only ever purchased a JDM Seiko online but my next purchase may be at an AD! Liked & subscribed.

[@nguyentommy86]

Hey Federico, just a quick opinion. Nothing serious. I there's natural light on the left hand side of the video. You can use that to illuminate your face better. The video is just a tad dark. Just my two cents

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

I appreciate the advice Tommy. I am actually waiting on some soft boxes so I don't have to rely on natural lighting anymore...

[@AdrienEcommerce]

Very good piece of advices especially the number 6, that will help me out! Thanks a lot :)

[@TheCigarCrook]

Hair cut looks much better brother! By the way, what brand of collared polo style shirts do you usually go with? I'm a big guy myself and would really like to expand my wardrobe !

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

Brooks brothers all the way!

[@stephenwilliams7056]

I have my heart set on the new air king but I won't be buying it unless I have some discount hope I'm not being to ambitious. Great video thank you.

[@locutusdborg126]

Great stuff. You should post THIS video on TRF.

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

The rolex forum? They wouldn't appreciate it I think... Full of gray marketers...

[@mikechan5274]

Thanks for the tips, buddy! Great vid

[@SolomonLi]

Great vid Frederico! BTW, I love the new haircut. It's a good look. I just had a couple of questions... 1. Is cash really king? When I negotiate, will it be easier to get to my price when I have cash in hand? 2. What is considered a reasonable offer on a "grey market" watch? I know people gotta stay in business, but I have an idea of what I'm looking for. It's a Rolex 16610LV "The Kermit" watch. I see it at a dealer going pre-owned at around $7K all the way up to $9K. Is say... 6K reasonable if they're selling at 7? 5.5K? I don't want to walk in with a silly offer, but I don't want to get gutted either. Any input would be great.

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

7K is actually VERY reasonable...

[@SolomonLi]

Thanks for the reply Federico! I'll have to do more ramen nights to hit that cash supply then. =P

Useful pieces of advice from an insider. Thank you Mr. I

[@mastercompra3677]

Hi Federico, what % off do you consider reasonable when negotiating price?

[@forallthingsblack]

Hi Federico! I'm in Canada so watch prices can get pricy, but what do you think is a fair offer to an AD for an IWC Portuguese IW371445 in Canadian dollars...? Just don't want to offend anyone. Oh and I will also be paying in all cash then and there when I go and offer. Does that make any difference? Very serious about this piece and buying it soon! Thanks! Best, Matt.

[@znasser1]

Great tips! Actually could also apply to buying items other than watches as well! Thanks!

[@TheIckster3]

Hey Federico, I've been looking at the new Omega Seamaster co axial 36.25mm, what would be the best discount a AD could give? 15-20%?