Buying and fixing an old tracked skid steer : Takeuchi TL26

[@randazzle1388]

Fix it because- A- everybody loves your fix-it content, B- when u repair it u will be psyched and glad u did, C- even if fix doesn't work u send it out then spend the the 3 grand

[@donaldduncan1374]

I've never repaired any hydraulics and because I have Takeuchi machines, I would really like to see this final drive gone through. Maybe someone out there has a video of this. If you could find one, I think it would be instructive to see you fight your way through it. I'd be checking for that video if it's out there. I have the repair manuals for my machines that go into this sort of repair, but unfortunately, you don't have one for your machine.

[@novicracker1980]

@jmuller86 take what these guys said and what I said and smash all the good points together to have even better saults.

[@karleck1119]

Ants pants did a drive motor on a yanmar excavator recently,while he was unsuccessful due to expense of replacement parts. Maybe something to check out.​@donaldduncan1374

[@Stoneheadification]

this

[@nordtruck]

@@donaldduncan1374 These machines are reassembled in the factory. from bottom to top. lastly the cabin on it. To repair it you would have to wash it first! then go down to the cabin and wash again.... Then it's relatively easy.... :-) A puller/rubber hammer and other special tools are required

[@dennisbudd8102]

Saving time and money by doing it yourself is a no brainer. I've watched you rebuild complicated machinery. You have the ability and patience to do it Jesse.

[@chriscash4118]

Thanks for blurring the full moon . We say NO to crack around here . Good job on your new addition to your fleet .

[@martialme84]

It is super helpful how you explain your thought process in detail while you're troubleshooting this system. Thanks for taking us along!

[@razbuznik]

Seems weird that that bearing alone would cause the entire drive motor to just bypass all oil flow and provide zero pressure or resistance. Seems like something in the scenario is missing. I vote that you rebuild it yourself and cut the time in 1/2 and save a fortune. Plus, it will be great content. Personally, I absolutely love seeing you take on these challenges and solve them. Lot of respect for your patience, ingenuity and resolve. Looking forward to the new shop!

[@EFCasual]

I was thinking that but no bearing may have allowed the shaft to one side and bypassed all the oil past the pistons.

[@marcusgs12345]

Yes, what EFCasual said..

[@Bob_Adkins]

I think the broken bearing may have let some of the pistons move out of the bores, letting the fluid bypass them.

[@Rick-4552]

For a $150 in parts I would try it, if it doesnt work send it off.

[@alwayssomething3259]

The bearing failing caused the parking brake to bypass which is why the charge pressure disappeared into the bypass abyss

[@tite-r-tone8258]

Hey there, I bought my first skid steer a few years ago it is a TL-26. I went through all this stuff, became familiar with the manuals and how the drive system works etc. I've made good money with the machine up to this point, cool to see someone else breaking one of these things down! My main issue was one of the high pressure relief valves. I pulled the engine to pull the final drives. I had the whole HST pump and both drive motors tore down in my garage and had never done something like that before. I learned a lot. You can get some pump parts! I found some online. Watching you struggle with that final drive cover was funny cause I did the same thing, it probably took me longer. I didn't weld onto it, I threaded into the plug holes and used a slide hammer. You can rebuild that final yourself, just make sure the 3 little pins that put pressure on the cylinder block against the valve plate are properly intact. That's my opinion anyway. The bearing makes sense that it would cause your fluid loss cause the valve block and valve plate probably weren't aligned. The seal that blew oil when you put air in the gear case makes sense cause the other side is the pressure side, not the gear side, so the lips of the seal face the pressure side. Mine overheats after a bit so I'm gonna make a different radiator work for it since of course you can't get a replacement radiator. Also I'm putting a bigger fan on the engine. Hit me up I'm sure we can learn from each others experiences with this machine. I just got a TL-150 that is broken that I'm excited about.

[@jmuller86]

Thats neat that you have the same machine and went through some of the same stuff I did. Do you have facebook?

[@jmuller86]

Also, do you have any idea where that snap ring goes? Because I got those bearing races off and I just cannot figure out where that snap ring is supposed to go. It looks like maybe it got stretched a little bit I still cant seem to find a groove for it to go into

[@TheHomePros6221]

Hey what was your symptoms with the high pressure relief valve? I’m digging into the same machine and pretty sure it’s a bad drive motor but curious to what your issue was

[@TheHomePros6221]

@@jmuller86Jesse do you think that bearing race pulled out a tad and that could be hiding the snap ring groove?

[@jmuller86]

@@TheHomePros6221 i just found where the snap ring goes about 5 mins ago, there is a groove on the inside of the piston block to hold in that shaft

[@colin8532]

I've seen the quality of work you do, and your abilities and I have no doubt that you can rebuild it properly. I look at it this way, if you spend a few days rebuilding it, and testing it and it doesn't work out, you can still overnight the thing to the company to rebuild it. You really haven't lost anything but a few hundred bucks. The knowledge and experience you'd get from doing it yourself, regardless of the outcome, I feel is priceless. Not to mention, when you rebuild it, and it works (and I'm sure you can do it) you'r going to feel like a million bucks. I think you have nothing to lose, and everything to gain from giving it your best. I'll be looking forward to your next video to see what you decide.

[@adanfranchi578]

I would recommend you rebuild based on your skill set and previous experiences fixing other complex machinery. In addition, you will save yourself a lot of money. Your ability to solve complex scenarios are truly a gift to witness. God bless my brother!

[@maxitout77]

I rebuilt both drives on my Kubota. Never done it before. You can definitely do it.

[@walterbrown8694]

Two reasonable options occur to me: 1) If you don't need the machine right away, do the rebuild yourself even though it may take a while. 2) Find a source for a drive assembly in a shop or second hand equipment yard for a unit in "good" operating condition for a more attractive price than a "rebuild-new" option. Your skills impress me Jesse - When I was a young man almost 70 years ago, I rebuilt my own auto engines and manual transmissions in the days when my toolbox full of mechanics tools traveled with me. Best wishes for your success.

[@Bob_Adkins]

If the used drive is still on the machine we've seen it takes a lot of time and work to take it off!

[@David-cv6ih]

I’d try it myself first and if you hit a snag then send it to another shop

[@maxpat82]

definitely beginning 90's....I have a 1992 takeuchi TB015 (mini-excavator) and it have the exact same tower were the control are. Bearing are easy to source: inner/outer/width dimension and call your local bearing reseller and they will find it. no need any number

[@geraldosteen2357]

Rebuild with your skill set. Check part’s availability which I am sure you have to decrease rebuild time. I would look for a decent replacement drive motor to check availability and decrease the wait time you are looking to return to fleet use. Thanks for asking for input from us. Truly enjoy the channel and content Thank you.

[@MrPhotodoc]

When Jesse and company have a good day, so do I. Thanks for letting us look in on your adventures.

[@ernestgephardt6135]

This is diagnosing on a whole other level, love it though!

[@goboyz8016]

"Easy you said!" I laughed out loud when you said that. I kept laughing while that thing fought you like a starving badger over the last scraps. I have fallen into the same trap many many times myself. I'm sure we all have. But I knew you were in for it the moment those words came out of your mouth. Great video, and good learning for all of us as you troubleshot. Keep up the good work.

[@markreetz1001]

I've already watched you rebuild it and it is amazing how many of the questions you asked your self about whether or not to do it were answered. I was impressed with how you did so much of the work somewhat blind, but took the right forks in the road. You mad the bearing and the lock ring segments look like child's play. Great work Jesse. I really learned a lot and was amazed by more!!

[@ZenWithKen]

I would appreciate seeing a rebuild of the drive motor. Thanks for sharing!

[@resto_roller]

1:35:12 you can weld on the inside of the bearing race, when it cools it will shrink the outer race.

[@sjd73ss]

Or just buy a blind bearing race puller cheap at harbor freight

[@ScatpackChallengerdriver]

Jesse be honest with yourself you know you can fix it no matter what you find wrong with it. Even if you have to have a machine shop make a part for it. You're young healthy and have the ability. When you get old is when you need to pay someone else . I'm sure when you fix it yourself you will be glad you did. May God bless you and your family.

[@BobCaseyAerial]

Seeing you go through the process of elimination was awesome. Not blowing smoke Jesse. You’re a talented patient man. I really enjoy watching your videos. I know these edits take up time as well. Nice job on all accounts bud.

[@davidb.losier6255]

Hey Jesse, that company just called and said that they can't rebuild that drive motor. That means you have to do it! Good job on all you do. I pray that you and your family continue to do well! Now, get them seals ordered. 👍 Happy Belated Birthday to you 🎉

[@suzrtimm5930]

I like ur idea better, I’m not a mechanic or anything but I like your idea. You’ll save money.

[@jamesblanke9175]

Sounds like you already know the answer to your question. You know you want to do it , so go with your gut feeling. Knowledge is a pretty powerful thing and even if you fail you still gained something.

[@trader4239]

Noah is just one of a kind, always makes my laugh

[@kono993]

I just sold the same machine about a month ago but mine ran good. I literally sold it because of the story's about costs of final drives and failures. iv heard of people paying upwards of $8000 for replacement final drives. I sold my running one for 10k in way better condition then yours so don't go too crazy. mine never gave me any trouble for almost 7 years but didn't want to get stuck with it. better off looking for a slightly newer machine that parts are still available for. also something to think about if one side has failed already who knows how long till its the other side too. no telling if the oil was contaminated and damaged the other side too or other parts of the hydraulic system. there great little machines till there not. was cool to see you test and diagnose everything I actually leaned a lot about the old thing lol

[@JoeMalovich]

What are some good used inexpensive machines that have parts availability?

[@kono993]

@@JoeMalovich i really like Takeuchi, and yanmar or any Japanese made machines they just seem better engineered. Good and inexpensive typically don't go together you only get to pick one. really if your thinking of buying used cheap equipment you need too be willing to work on it otherwise its very expensive going through dealers. it comes down to do your research learn as much as you can and be willing to work on it.

[@steveg4iwr]

Go for it. You have the ability to rebuild anything you put your mind to. Noah is great, he is such a bundle of fun.

[@shawnssoccerlife7126]

The Will in someone is very powerful. Thanks

[@enginecrzy]

Iv'e heard of welding a bead on the inside of the bearing race & it will shrink & allow you to get it out. Awesome Job!✌👍

[@number40Fan]

Yep.

[@Roca89]

You don't really wanna weld inside a hydraulic motor.... a little bit of weld gunk on that surface and that thing turns into a boat anchor

[@number40Fan]

@@Roca89 No one is saying to go all willy-nilly. Use some common sense.

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

Yep! Definitely shrinks a bearing race!

[@MattyMurtagh]

Sometimes you need somebody to give you a little mental push. You have a very good understanding of mechanical processes. I suggest you do it yourself. There is no doubt you have the ability.

[@jfleming8311]

Go for it Jessie....you've proven time and time again of mastering problems....

[@stevebader6385]

Your perseverance is inspiring. Definitely rebuild it yourself, save a lot of money and time and get the full satisfaction. Like you, I suspect all it really needs is the bearing.

[@daddybob6096]

I admire your tenacity Jesse. You should run for President, i'm sure you could manage the Government of the USA, and do a good job. Bob. (Veteran) NZ.

[@MacAttack2010]

You have your hands in everything. I have full confidence you can rebuild it $3000 is a lot of money considering what you paid for the machine

[@douglasgallipeau6582]

Excellent video! Rebuild it yourself, the leak from the planetary is from the pressure on the wrong side of the seal. Where you can test it out of the machine why not, saves money and great content.

[@JungleHaru]

I’d vote rebuild it yourself love watching all the videos of u working on skidsteers gives me confidence to work on my Cat 216b when it has problems

[@stacyadamsjr891]

Jesse I’m impressed at all the knowledge you have. Always look forward to your videos

[@Jayf1981]

Watching you struggle with that drive motor was torture, and I considered dynamite the best and most satisfying option. The suspense had me pounding the table; I felt like cursing that drive motor and both of you! LOL. Well done, thanks for the video!

[@flir67man84]

You were very thorough, now you know .. your knowledge increases. Keep going..

[@MichaelBenton-Rose]

Go for it Jesse, you have the ability and the fortitude to logically rebuild the drive. Along with the financial benefit, time is your big win also freeing up the workshop, Cheers Mike (UK)

[@snowskier13]

I’d love to watch you tackle the repair. Based on your other repairs the drive would be perfect!

[@larrydudley6436]

Jesse!!!!!!! This is what you. This is also why we watch your channel, you fix things that we can only dream of fixing. You absolutely have to fix it we are on this ride with you. Lets gooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!🤬👏🙌

[@michaelmillsap952]

Hey Jesse I believe that you can rebuild it and test it outside of the machine. Thanks for the videos!!! Look forward to seeing the finished product

[@kennethhume8628]

Go for it Jesse , definitely worth spending time on .

[@jerrygibs8120]

If someone can do a turn around repair guaranteed in 10 days to two weeks for a reasonable price with warranty, I'd let another mechanic do it. Your work load may guide your decision. You do have two other working skidsteers so, your not in a pinch. If you can find the time to get parts and do the repair then the money you'll save can be put on shop build or more work on your house. Will be praying that you make a wise decision. Stay safe, strong, healthy, discerning and successful. Enjoy your exceptional videos and sharing with everyone . It makes for great education, entertainment and family time. Blessings to you, family, associates, customers and work crew. ☝🙏🙌💪❤

[@TheHomePros6221]

My next door neighbor and good friend of mine has this same exact machine and his has a similar issue, the left drive (while sitting in machine) works fine but the right drive is very weak it works when cold but when it warms up it quits working. I was thinking of buying the machine from him and making a video of fixing it on my channel, so I was really intrigued when I saw you had the same machine! I would love to see how you go about fixing yours because you, me and all the other people that watch will get a great learning experience so I say do it yourself and if it doesn’t work then send it out to get rebuilt, it will also make good content and the video should do well 👍👍 PS: a way that you can remove that inner bearing is to stuff bread in it and then hammer the bread with a shaft that just fits inside the bearing hole, keep pressing in more bread and hammering it, it will have nowhere to go and will start to press the bearing upward and out, I know it sounds crazy but I’ve used this method and it works I think even AVE made a video doing it. You got this buddy we are all rooting for you!

[@crzy11000]

I saw a guy use grease instead of bread.

[@TheHomePros6221]

@@crzy11000 grease is a lot harder and messy to use

[@davidptak7708]

Jesse, you have an incredible mind for work. Theres not a single doubt that you will not fix this machine yourself. Really seems like you have only one option.

[@mikkel1249]

you are so cool Jesse , sending you positive thoughts and good luck from a fan from Denmark

[@davidnaudi2601]

Go for it Jesse, your more than capable. Just think every time you do one you save 3k. Even buying a hydraulic hose it will become a handy tool.

[@robertsimmons3556]

To bad you couldn't find a replacement out of a wrecked or being dismantled unit. Good luck, I will be watching and waiting for your next post! Always a good job from Jesse Muller!!

[@jamesspencer404]

I have confidence you can fix just about anything. If you have the time do it yourself and save the money.

[@TerryLawrence001]

I thoroughly enjoy these videos and hope you continue let us watch you figure these machines out. The longer videos are my favorite.

[@paulwatts3328]

I change my mind just watched the JCB Perkins rebuild and 150% I want you to rebuild the final drive.You can do it to perfection.Take your time you the man !!!!

[@buckleyandre03]

If you can get the parts needed, then rebuild it. It also makes for a good video to watch you becoming a master mechanic.

[@AdelinoGambiarras]

I think you should do it yourself 3 K is a lots of money. I never watch videos of anyone rebuilding that drive planetarium before, but hey only you know how comfortable you are. Like always I enjoy the video very much and thanks for your hard work making videos.

[@laurentpreisig3130]

Well done Jesse, I always appreciate your analytical skills, your diagnoses and the explanations you give. Keep it up, you can be proud of yourself. I wish you the best for you and your family 🥰.

[@Jeremy-de2of]

The TL 240 is the same way that bottom roller has to come off to get a drive sprocket off love the videos Jessie always learn new stuff watching you diagnose vary smart

[@gbentley8176]

Sounds like the repair co did not want the job and priced/time accordingly. Great information in your video. Thanks for posting, best from the UK.

[@josephsfields]

I like the way others said it better but I just want to add that I have faith that you can do it. There is nothing to it but to do it.

[@robertgeorgewerner]

Good job on recovering from the lost audio. It looked like you even got your voice over synced with your gestures in the original video!!! ;) You are awesome!!!

[@jmuller86]

Lol I really dont know how that worked out but it did

[@VernonAmirault]

You amaze me with your talents. I think your decision should be based on your time restraints.

[@sipesipe5060]

Pat is my favorite YT sidekick!

[@GlobalistJuice]

Although I'll never find myself even close to the mechanics or home-builds presented on your channel, it's interesting and entertaining to watch you dive into the known and unknown of it all! Good luck either way you proceed. 👍

[@micheldavid184]

Le plus important dans ce vidéo que tu nous as appris...c'est d'avoir beaucoup de patience car je suis certain que plusieurs personnes auraient lâcher prise.

[@chadbrewer6863]

Great video Jesse! I always appreciate your determination and humility. I was on the edge of my seat to see if that test for hydraulics would work and was psyched that you fast fwd to test it and it worked. I say you fix it and we all learn in the process; the content is excellent watching you tackle this stuff.

[@nevillekinsley5610]

Love watching these videos. Thanks.

[@grandy0406]

Whatever suits your needs will be enjoyable to see. You rebuilding the drive would interest a lot of people, but your loyal viewers will support you whatever you do. Good luck.

[@beboboymann3823]

Go ahead and do your magic on it…..we will be right here with you.

[@marcusgs12345]

Absolutely, you can, and should do the rebuild yourself, I feel totally confident in you!

[@debcamp2359]

Thanks for taking us along . ❤ your projects.

[@davidspence3021]

The way i look at challenges like this is... If you rebuild it yourself then you will know how from now on... if you have someone rebuild it then you will always need to have someone rebuild it. Do it, Learn it, Earn it. Just my thoughts. :) Love the vids!

[@johnsmart3587]

Hammer fixes ever thing! Thanks.

[@markplaton84]

I see why you buy those things :) used they run like 58 grand and thats 5 years or more old :) maybe one for like 10 grand that runs good is a better choice :) thanks for your all your videos love the channel and the work you put in to make this all happen

[@charlesgall8052]

Only you know ! You do more than I could fathom !

[@adriennadaud]

Merci pour les conseils, la méthode et la vidéo en général. Many things learned along the way. Big thanks from a merchant marine engineer. Very useful 🙏

[@JohnLeota-sq6sx]

I've watched you rebuild a lot of different motors so I don't see any reason for you to do it yourself I think you're very capable of doing it just take your time and good luck you got this.

[@maxvanrunkle1052]

Follow your gut on this Jesse.........if you decide to rebuild it yourself I will appreciate the education it will provide........Thanks!!

[@BWIL2515]

Just popped up but I hafta save it for my morning and coffee looking forward to it I love these mechanics video's strangely enough I despise doing it

[@RunoLarsson]

You made a great job, mayby save same money in a short perspective. But in the long run mayby in was worth it. Keep the god work up.

[@apetro8895]

Alex here. Do it yourself. We're learning along with you. Thx!

[@RitaFarrow]

jesse ,ur doing a great job as u say neeeds a good clean,might have to get a power brush out for ur rust spots ,so yer abit of tlc goes along way ,again superb video,well done again and great content

[@karenkartz3163]

Taking something to a shop in pieces costs more ,I was one of the hydraulic trades technicians that got those jobs and usually pieces are missing . They usually estimate high and time long to make it real.

[@karencary3312]

I love watching you problem solve. You are tenacious. Great job.

[@craiga657]

Noah’s a legend, he always makes me laugh.

[@markbrown6236]

The hopping was great.

[@Alma19900119]

Hey Jesse! This 2 hour video was awesome. Watched every second of it. 1 thing i cant understand. When u want to use only the right drive motor u have to have pressure in the control block. Even if your left motor is not connected to the hoses, u are not allowed to push fluid into those hoses, cos the joystick itself is in neutral position. What i think is u still have some debris in the control block not letting it jumping back to neutral. Also when u block the hoses on the bad drive motor, the engine wants to stall because of the pressure building up. What i didnts see on the video is that u start the engine with bad drive motor disconnected. If u getting oil out of it without moving the joystick u will know u have other problem then the bad bearing.

[@craigdreisbach5956]

Go ahead and fix it yourself. I know you can do it. Like your first ILS approach, stressful but rewarding. Kind Regards. Craig

[@singleshot2218]

“Neswsessity is the mother of invention..but it’s also the mother of learning..” I’d tackle it myself for that opportunity. Take care Jesse, God bless, and stay safe! ✝️🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@darinmorgante7200]

If you're asking, which you are, i believe you can fix it and test it outside the machine. If its only a few days and a few hundred dollars with a very good chance your fix will work, its worth it. If it does go the other way you're not loosing a whole lot by trying, then send it out if you must.

[@jerryleejohnsonjr1377]

Its worth a shot, especially if you can rig it up to test without installing. Go for it, you can do it!

[@SmittysShop]

Hell of a video and way to stick with it Jesse! I was right there with you, in spirit! That was a tough one for sure! My thought is, you will probably tackle that drive motor, and you should! Looking forward to seeing how this turns out. As frustrating as it was, 4k was a good deal! I would have scooped it, too!

[@rickon1353]

Tap a small piece of flat stock and weld it to the outer bearing race. Thread a bolt into the flat stock and press against the back of the cover. Replace what you find damaged in the motor and reroute the hydraulic lines up and over the side of the machine to test drive motor function and line pressure. You could make a jig to prevent the motor from turning if necessary.

[@SoloBlack313]

You and your friends done an awesome job. I watched the whole video. I did gain some knowledge about hydraulics watching this video. Thanks a lot, and blessings to you your family and friends.

[@patrikpersson9446]

Go for it, you are a true multitalent!!

[@rkins100]

I'm always up for another Jesse video.

[@donaldmendes184]

One downsides to older Skidsteer, was motor pan accessible, what need to do cut out a Bellpan accessible, the existing belly is nothing but a protected devise. So cutting won't destroy anything, when replacing cutout , just make reboltable.

[@1944chevytruck]

WOW! CRAZY DESIGN!

[@jestempies]

The general rule for outsourcing work is that you should only outsource the work you don't consider your core competency. I feel like fixing and servicing equipment is something you generally do, but that's for you to decide. It's a bit more difficult in case of a KZbin channel, I'm certainly happy to watch you do any stuff, regardless of what that is, and I'm happy to learn about how a drive of this type works. That said, I'd rather watch you build a building than fix stuff.

[@Jrsclassics]

We have faith in you. Go for it!

[@hikanthus]

thanks for saving us from the plumbers crack, around an hour in, when you were setting the cab back down =)

[@MySynthDungeon]

Coffees on!! Diagnosing, check, lov these videos! Here we go! Cheers!;-)!

[@eduardfrazao3506]

You are getting there it’s going to be okay good job