Buying and Installing a Used Outdoor Wood Boiler

[@joshhayden8997]

You’ll be pleased with this boiler, I purchased the same model new in 2006 when I built my house. It’s a two story with radiant baseboard and I installed radiant in the concrete in the basement. It also heats my domestic water as well through a stainless exchange heater within the hot water tank (basically looks like a conventional electric water heater). The set up works really well. I also heat my garage with an exchange heater in the ceiling like what you just hooked up in the basement. Love the channel.

[@Wolfpupfab]

Nice, thanks for the input. Where do you live and how much wood do you go through?

[@joshhayden8997]

@Wolfpupfab I live in North East PA, if I’m burning good quality, seasoned/dry mixed hardwoods I may use as little as 8-9 cords. This style of wood boiler is not as efficient as the newer styles that the EPA has mandated for homeowners, but I personally love the simplicity of this boiler. I clean the ashes out 2-3 times a year, check the water level on the sight gauge weekly, annually check water quality. Pretty simple but very effective boiler.

[@nssomedude]

You said you think the boiler may be oversized for your needs, run radiant tubes under the driveway, at least the aprons if you are not going to pour any driveway. Do sidewalks and porches too.

[@robertsimmons3556]

New to this form of heating, Jon at Farm Craft 101 uses this form. Good job man, great you can temp it in to keep you guys warm this winter. Looking forward to any updates!

[@Wolfpupfab]

Thanks!

[@_vvv444_]

Jon uses gasifier model.

[@robertsimmons3556]

@@_vvv444_ Thanks! Out where I live, electric, propane, natural gas and wood! Some are solar. Was not sure the exact setup Jon uses just knew it was similar.

[@stopcreepingyouweirdo]

Really enjoying your project and how well you present it here. I feel like I'm learning a lot, and I love to see things being built. Good work and best wishes to you.

[@Wolfpupfab]

Thanks I appreciate that

[@naturejockk]

We like your videos. The work looks great Thank you. From south eastern Louisiana.

[@Wolfpupfab]

Thanks I appreciate it👍

[@dariushorton9418]

Watching your videos brings and joy to me, keep delivering great content

[@Wolfpupfab]

Thanks I appreciate that

[@perkirkegaardlemming720]

Often a buffer tank, accumulation tank, is connected to central heating boilers to equalize the heat in the system, so that you can, for example, avoid heating at night. The boiler heats the accumulation tank and the heating system circulates through the accumulation tank, so there are two or more circles.

[@Nobe_Oddy]

that hose coming into the house through the wall looked like an elephant trunk and just made me chuckle :)

[@debbievogt9881]

I was just debating going to bed. 6:17pm Your video is just in time Dogs are a BONUS

[@Wolfpupfab]

I’m happy to delay your early bedtime

[@dmwi1549]

Did not know there was a manual pex expansion tool to avoid cost of electric model. Nice Was asking my screen if he drained all the water out of that boiler. Then telling same screen to put some rail meat (sailing term) on the back of the skid steer for counterbalance. I’m glad I’m not the only one who does sketchy stuff and maxes out trailers.

[@dmwi1549]

OK, after watching you two young guys use that pet tool I think I’d buy or rent the tool for anything more than 4 connections.

[@dmwi1549]

Test

[@Wolfpupfab]

If you have to do a lot of expanding I would recommend the electric expansion tool

[@arnteriksen5773]

Hey. At Lumnah Acress there is a very good video about how this heater works. Good Luck!

[@KenEilers]

GREAT video, looking forward to some updates. Not sure I would want to stoke that thing with firewood all of the time. I hope it does the job this winter.

[@richardthomas1743]

WOW Making great progress!

[@Wolfpupfab]

Thanks👍

[@gregcolemam7149]

ive core drilled thousands of holes from 1 inch to 24 .i bet everyone thats done it is cringing .but i love the ill just do my best attitude .love your videos .

[@Wolfpupfab]

Thanks👍

[@jakobrebeki]

I like it. The lean to on the side of the barn idea will protect it good in the depths of winter as trudging thru the snow to feed it can be tough going sometimes and take a care as they can sometimes get very hungry. Love seeing the dogs wresaling about, I miss my dog so much these days. When in a better place going to get another. Thanks for posting....

[@Wolfpupfab]

Dogs are the best, thanks for watching

[@JonFoster48386]

I'll be interested in the ongoing burner stats. Amount of wood used each day, How many loads each day, seasonal use, ash disposal, etc.

[@Wolfpupfab]

I am interested also, I will do some updates

[@cherhanamiya1]

As an apprentice, we used Ait Tools similar to your HOLE HAWG. we used to call them " Apprentice Spinners " if we didn't use tubes strategically placed to stop the tool from spinning.😅 Stoked with your progress n build in general. You're doing a Spot-On Job.

[@Wolfpupfab]

Thanks👍

[@JyrkiKoivisto]

The wrench! Wrong way around! Love this journey!

[@bigmountain7561]

If that’s all you can afford well that’s what you must work with and use it to your advantage. We would all like to have an F450 Limited 4x4 Dually but it’s not in the program. Can’t wait to see how you use this and see how you adapt. New to the channel, Thank You 🙏 and God Bless!!

[@Wolfpupfab]

Thanks 👍

[@johnharris2642]

I would put antifreeze in it in case the fire would go out and you wasn't around. It would protect everything

[@FrankDog-d5r]

A lot of work there, thanks for the video.

[@Wolfpupfab]

Thanks for watching

[@brianelliot2719]

Thanks for the video. I new very little about this type of heating and now I do.😊

[@Hillbilly007-yd9gu]

Looking good. Hope it heats the house.

[@ronalddaubner38]

My friend has one and he has antifreeze in the water line in case it goes out in winter

[@willm27]

Great video, thanks for taking the time to film the process

[@Billy-j7l]

I think you, andrew camarata, and jesse muller are my favourite KZbinrs.

[@Wolfpupfab]

I appreciate that. I enjoy both of them also

[@AvalancheMan]

Looks pretty inconvenient to have to feed the fire on those future cold snowy nights. Hope it works out for you.

[@Wolfpupfab]

Depends on who you ask. Some might say paying for a higher gas or electric bill is inconvenient

[@larryholland1466]

Would love to do that at my house

[@Failure_Is_An_Option]

Watching some guys doing some sketchy shit on a cold Sunday is better than me doing some sketchy shit on a cold Sunday ;-) Looks like I'm about a month behind on your project.

[@robertszyszynski7959]

GOOD JOB .

[@joatmonjoatmon8911]

Be careful opening the boiler door especially soon after the door closes…you’ll be fortunate if you only lose your eyebrows! Also, it helps having the stove tilted slightly back to prevent the creosote from running towards the door/gasket. I have a smaller CB and love it.

[@Wolfpupfab]

Thanks for the input👍

[@kingbeyfan2598]

Hi! I know you said that you would give us an update in 1 month on the boiler. I was wondering if are any more videos are coming out before than on the basement/house build? Everything looks great so far

[@brandontheriault2913]

made my day!

[@jimwiskus8862]

Incredible journey you’re on! I’ve lived every minute of it and admire your tenacity. What state are you in? That kind of helps us figure out your weather. 😊

[@Wolfpupfab]

Thanks👍 north east Ohio

[@wmweekendwarrior1166]

Good stuff

[@glenlongstreet7]

You can always heat your swimming pool all year long. No swimming pool?

[@timf6916]

Good luck

[@jamesmcdonald5868]

I have driven forklifts and skid steers for well over 40 years.And I do have to say this is not the most ideal way to move a structure or an implement that weighs this much for the fact that it changes your Fulcrum point /point of balance. Lifting your forks to lift an item at close to or at max weight. Forks were designed to slide under a load. That is why pallets are designed with blocks and slats on the bottom. For better control next time, lift it up from beneath rather than picking it up from above and dangling it where your control of your parcel is not maintained. That chain slipped right off. Lift from above to place blocks under it. Then you slide those forks under it. Already before you have moved it 12 inches, you have picked it up and set it fown 5 times, and keep having to re attach that chain. Then your forks are so high up, it makes the back of the skid steer lift off the ground. It easn't designed to move long distances like that. Took too much time just to get it on that trailer. No control, swinging it all over the place and you ran the risk of bending that thing up. Yeah. I k ow I am being " ONE 9F THOSE GUYS" but next time you will know. I am sorry, but I had to teach a class for people re applying for fork loft certification at the company I worked for. I cringed through this whole video😂

[@petergillon9379]

I agree totally, forks were made to lift from the bottom . End of the day everything turned out well.

[@TheRealBrockRoberts]

Good video!

[@Wolfpupfab]

Thanks!

[@timjaeger7784]

Do you know how to use 2 copper wires to find exactly where your buried pipes, wires are? It is an amazing trick/tools that would have saved your pipes and wires.

[@MrRickoscar]

Nice,, are you going to heat the water to your sinks and washing machine with the boiler ??

[@Wolfpupfab]

Yes I will tie it in to the domestic water heater also

[@johnnance648]

Antifreeze - just in case fire goes out and no one is there to feed it and power failure, a freeze up and that boiler is toast.

[@alex78-c3q]

Не для автомобиля . Не этиленгликоль . (Очень много проблемм если в системе есть элементы из железа ). Только пропиленгликоль . А лучше всего дистилированная вода + этанол.

[@franksmodels29]

Looking good a question is there an expansion tank in your heating system ? I don’t think just letting the air rise will heat the house you may need auxiliary fans to push the air.

[@Wolfpupfab]

There is no expansion tank. And it may not but we will find out

[@franksmodels29]

@ thanks

[@hotroder48]

Set it up to heat the shop to. Not oversized then

[@El_Jefe_Zamora]

How often are you having to add wood to the fire. I live in California so I have zero clue how these work. I just couldn’t see myself out in the snow throwing wood in the boiler, lol.

[@Wolfpupfab]

Right now it isn’t that cold but every 12 hours 5 or 6 pieces

[@El_Jefe_Zamora]

@ oh, that’s not too bad. Thanks for the reply, I’m newer to the channel. Keep up the great work.

[@davidking3699]

Not sure if you have a metal skid or an oversize pallet you could make to put under that. bolt it down to a frame and you can move it easier next time using the forks in their proper position...run a heating line to a thermal mass for the dogs or any animals you have on site... or a hot tub that you can use year around...

[@RPM-sr2gn]

This item sound nice.Can this boiler burns wood but can it also burn coal?Will there be a Theromatic also?I've never owned a boiler.Thanks.

[@Wolfpupfab]

I think it can burn coal but I just burn with wood

[@jeremym4104]

How long can it run with damper closed? How often have to feed it wood?

[@Wolfpupfab]

Right now I feed it every 12 hours with 5 or 6 pieces of wood

[@CluckCluckChickens]

When are you gonna start framing for the house?

[@Wolfpupfab]

Unfortunately not until next year

[@CluckCluckChickens]

@ why

[@dustinsutter1071]

@@CluckCluckChickens winter is coming my friends

[@timjaeger7784]

You should have used the Binford 6100 hole hog to drill that hole.

[@Wolfpupfab]

🙃

[@agasini-euborja]

loading bobcat with those pointy chopstick thingy = final destanation trauma

[@douglasthompson2740]

I always have to wonder when return and supply lines are run in close proximity about the efficiency. Especially in high differential temperatures such as mini splits and your wood boiler. The actual R value of the foam between the two lines is very little as there is very little foam so in effect you're trading temperatures in the supply and return. There is of course some forgiveness as the energy (wood fire) doesn't have as much to heat before returning since the supply has been heating the returning cooler water the distance of the run. Seems to me that putting the two lines much farther apart and super insulating both (as it is you are also losing heat into the ground) would in the long run be much more efficient? I have always made it a practice to do so with mini split line sets because of the high heat differential in both phases of use. I don't bury line sets though, so you are in a fifty degree zone once below frost line that moderates the ambient temperature it is traveling through. Always interesting videos. What kind of waterproofing are you going to use for a temporary cover on your garage end? Getting one of those repurposed highway billboard signs make for a durable heavy material that used to be very reasonable in price and hold up in the outside without ripping and tearing.

[@Wolfpupfab]

The supply and return lines shouldn’t very enough in temperature for one to affect the other. The water is constantly flowing so it doesn’t give the water much of a chance to lose much heat in my situation

[@MR.Kat-zVideoChannel]

Keep in mind hot air rises and cold air sinks to the floor. So what I am saying if you have it nice and toasty down your basement it will be hot as well upstairs!

[@Wolfpupfab]

That is the plan

[@TheBrokenWing8]

Look up the channel Northern Seclusion. Joe is in Minnesota and has a whole q&a on his wood boiler he bought his a couple years ago!

[@TheBrokenWing8]

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[@Wolfpupfab]

I enjoy his videos

[@tdotw77]

Nice to see you put 1 whole strap on the skidsteer while trailering it! Saftey police naxis would be very proud! You did however forget the obligatory two pats and saying "That ain't going anywhere!" before taking off down the road! Can't wait to see the progress on this project including radiant heat hook up, framing & finishing etc! Keep it up man!👍🏻👌🏻🛠️🔧🔩🦺🚜🏗️🗜️🔌⚡⚠️🔥🌡️ ✊🏻🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲✊🏻

[@Wolfpupfab]

Thanks👍

[@Superduty_59]

I want to do the same boiler but cut and install a fuel oil burner gun converted to run on waste motor oil to heat my shop and house. I have access to some wood but unlimited supply of waste oil.

[@Wolfpupfab]

I believe central boiler has some models that are multi fuel from the factory

[@W8iHav2P]

Was watching this with my wife and @25:20 she said "Reminds me of prom night". I didn't meet her until after college so I'm not sure what she meant...😢

[@Wolfpupfab]

I’m sorry to hear that

[@W8iHav2P]

@Wolfpupfab 🤣

[@xzytqweo3538]

My brother has one and he had some problems (not with the unit and the heat it put out) b tying it into his existing water system in the house....long story. But it heated his two story house with out any problem. I am sure you have read up on it and heard lots of comments but all you have to do is pile it full of firewood in the evening and it will last all night (depending on the temperature outside and how warm you want your house to be). And a suggestion: instead of tearing out your return duct work, just buy some flexible insulated duct work for your circulation fan and tie it into your return air duct and it will blow air upstairs. You can also install a vent in the basement to keep that area warm. Just saying it will have to get really hot in the basement to keep the upstairs warm...yeah I know, heat rises, but it loose thermal energy in the process having to travel from the basement to the main house. But you do what is best. See ya in the next video!

[@Wolfpupfab]

Thanks for the input👍

[@kodak_jack]

I sure hope the outdoor boiler works for you. I have a friend who went through two of them as they both burned out/ cracked. He finally gave up and went back to conventional heat. I'm surprised yours is so far away from the house, or at least it seems to be. They don't have much of a base, do they?.

[@Wolfpupfab]

Interesting, I wonder if he was doing something wrong or buying poorly made boilers

[@kodak_jack]

@@Wolfpupfab I doubt he bought cheap stuff. Those things are long enough that long logs can be loaded in so it keeps up when nobody's home to feed it. If you have access to wood, especially if free, it seems like a great thing to try.

[@andersmartensson1851]

Använd vatten med glykol eller om du är rädd att det ska frysa bara glykol

[@endall6783]

Would it take a whole lot to put the pex in the floor. Your going to make the basement below your house a warm room for time being. It would make the boiler work better wouldn't it. I don't know I am wondering if would help. Oh is that one of those smokeless boilers ?

[@tdotw77]

The radiant heat in the basement concrete is gonna heat the whole slab up and it will 'radiate' the heat after the heated water stops flowing each cycle. The heat in that space will go right up into upper floor and keep it very comfortable. He may only need more heat upstairs when it's really cold and I assume he's keeping the forced air furnace system he already has in the original house, may have to add a run into new rooms above the garage but that furnace should handle it well with the radiant doing most of the work heating & just needing extra help when it's really cold. Yeah he could add pex radiant loops to underside of 2nd floor also and eliminate the forced air furnace entirely up there. Radiant is very good at heating spaces especially well insulated walls like these ICF walls will be after adding interior finish walls. It's going to be a very comfy space when it's all wrapped up! 👍🏻👌🏻🛠️🔧🔩🦺🔥⚡🔌 ✊🏻🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲✊🏻

[@endall6783]

@@tdotw77 I know he said something about removing not sure what but he said it would let the air go up into the house. He had talked about putting heat in upper floor I know it's in whole basement floor come to think of it. He can just hook up that under his house now like you said heat would go right up and heat the house. Not any of the basement heat is hooked up IDK.

[@tdotw77]

@@endall6783 I commented before watching the whole video, I just finished it. I didn't realize he's not hooking the radiant up just yet, but that hydronic radiator should put out a decent amount of heat. I guess we'll have to wait & see how it goes.👍🏻🔥

[@fredhoyt6900]

You may need to help the heat circulate upstairs.

[@Wheel_Horse]

I definitely woulda spooged a bunch of Lexel Big Stretch caulk around that tube before taping it.

[@bruceletouzel5157]

don't fill all the holes in the basement, leave some open so the boiler over size will be taken up to run longer ,also the other comment is good about having a storage or buffer tank inside about 250 300 gallons , your temp startup should be on your boiler return water temp, and your supply water temp should be the shut off, off 170 f start 150 f

[@djpadilla5042]

How much did that thing cost?

[@Wolfpupfab]

$5,000

[@johnpalmer9088]

like the heater who ts going to fill it when snow is on the ground

[@Wolfpupfab]

I was hoping you will

[@roblange1445]

@@Wolfpupfab😂

[@yips_way]

@@Wolfpupfab 🤣🤣🤣

[@l3eaver]

Full of water or glycol?

[@Wolfpupfab]

Just distilled water

[@andersmartensson1851]

Ett tak över eld platsen vore praktiskt i vinter

[@Wheel_Horse]

That radiator don't look big enough to heat the whole house...

[@bigredc222]

That's what I was thinking.

[@soulextracter]

25:22 "Hello there!"

[@okeechobeejoe2868]

Is the boiler 240v ???

[@Wolfpupfab]

120

[@AdasUnck]

Hi, how do I contact u? I didn't see you share your info . do u accept the cooperation ?

[@victor58010]

I was a fork lift driver for over 30 years, you made that look difficult,

[@Wolfpupfab]

I was using a skid steer not a forklift

[@roberthillyard4234]

why you put it so far from house you lose a lot of heat and you have to walk to it in winter in snow next to house so easy

[@Wolfpupfab]

With the insulated pipe I loose no more that 1 degree of temperature at that distance. Walking is good for you

[@debbievogt9881]

I'm guessing a wood shed when it's more permanent

[@Wolfpupfab]

Yes

[@debbievogt9881]

If those dogs were supervising instead of chasing each other those pipes would have been okay

[@victor58010]

Should have raised it off the ground,lifted it from the bottom,and reversed it to the trailer.

[@Wolfpupfab]

It wasn’t built to be lifted from the bottom. There wasn’t enough structure

[@wisconsinhunter3108]

I dont see that working for heating a house. That fans so small

[@Nobe_Oddy]

I think you are gonna HATE this system about a month into feeding it 4 times a day LOL - I mean I don't want you to hate it, but in bad weather it is gonna SUCK!!! You should try to at least get an easily movable canopy near the door so you move next to the door when you're loading it up ion crumby weather, and then just move it away a few steps when you're done so there's no risk of melting or burning it... I'm not sure where you live, but here in NJ the weather hasn't been so bad that you couldn't just make wooden shelter just to make it through the winter.... but I digress - I was thinking that you probably could have disconnected to in-floor heating that is under the garage portion and then capped off those parts of the manifold so you would only heat the portion directly under your house.... But I only mention this because I have no idea just how well that radiator/fan setup will work warming you're home when it hits February... Is that what the seller was using to heat his whole home? I just don't want you to get into the real cold weather only to realize it's not gonna be enough and then you gotta go buy some space heaters and cause the power company to install a couple of new nuclear reactors just to power them :) - In all honesty I think it'll be just fine... the amount of heat that rad/fan will be putting out will be a high enough temp... and you got a really decent amount of insulation in the basement walls... And you don't seem as lazy as me, so you won't just deal with the cold with extra blankets instead of going outside to stoke the fire LOL Plus this is gonna save you some coin if you had gas or electric heat before this :)

[@CarrotCaptain]

That boiler is massive. I'm sure it is plenty big enough.

[@yips_way]

From what I understand it's a commercial boiler so heating his "small" house will be no problem. He could probably heat all his neighbours houses at the same time - and all the roads/sidewalks to their houses too 🤣

[@johnvoigt1154]

1.7k 0:11

[@AWH811]

Right from the manufacturers website. 393 gallons 😮 manufacturer website also says… “in the U.S. classic 6048 is for non-residential applications. 😮Moses sandals that’s a big boiler. As others have said I would be heating sidewalks, driveway apron or driveway. You’ve got enough you can heat a lot of things 😂

[@Wolfpupfab]

Yes it’s large

[@jackcampbell2479]

Where do you live?

[@rossjon4795]

Narnia

[@g_force3857]

If it’s too big, run pex everywhere outside, all the paths and driveways, have a tap on them to isolate if necessary and never shovel a driveway again… maybe put that radiator in you shed too

[@_vvv444_]

Too bad this isn't a gasifier model. Gasifiers are more efficient, burn wood at higher temperatures for better energy extraction, produce less ash, and release almost no smoke, making them a cleaner and more eco-friendly option. Anyway, as usual, many thanks for the great video!

[@Typersx1]

Your in Ohio?! Sob

[@Sammywhat]

Did that dude ride in the skid loader all the way back home? 🫣 That must have been a wild ride!! 🤣I saw some of the others are interested in the stats of usage on this heater... I second that! Looking forward to your next vid! Thank you for the share!!

[@Wolfpupfab]

Thanks!

[@debbievogt9881]

If those dogs were supervising instead of chasing each other those pipes would have been okay