Buying Kellar's Keep | Unboxing, Full Contents & Common Faults | The HeroQuest Restoration Project

[@DwaineWoolley]

Just bought a copy of Kellar’s keep still in the box. It looks like the doors you are showing at 5:36 are actually from Return of the Witch Lord

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

You get those doors in both expansions. I have videos for each expansion on the channel.

[@erdnase1872]

I found this in my old HQ box that my brother & I played. I also managed to download all of the other quest books as pdfs. Very handy.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It’s great to be able to pick up all the extra White Dwarf content and expansion material like that.

[@faaroncarthy680]

I am so jealous right now!!! I'd love the Oger and wizard one💚🇮🇪

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm pleased to have Kellar's Keep and Return of the Witch Lord. I would like the others, but that requires some serious investment!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@faaroncarthy680 Ye Olde Inn - it's the site I mention in this video. An excellent resource for HeroQuest. I've toyed with the idea of making my own Against the Ogre Horde and Wizards of Morcar expansions with those resources, and just buying the repro models off Etsy, but I really like to have the original things as I'm a collector as well as a gamer.

[@faaroncarthy680]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Ye old inn🤣 that's the one! Yea like wise, I prefer the older style miniatures anyway. I was so close to buying the new one there in September until I came to my senses😳 Loving the content💚🇮🇪

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@faaroncarthy680 Thanks. I will still get the new one if I have a chance at retail. I don't like all of the new designs, but it will be interesting to have a set of the game that uses the US rules, and it will look good sitting next to the original on my shelf.

[@HeroQuestFans]

on ebay you can find pit trap tiles, secret doors, etc. that are all black on one side... the NA components look lower res (or fewer colors) and on thinner cardstock with plain white on the back. interestingly the remake edition in the pledge drive were the same thickness but are white on the back while the retail version is black on the back. in the editions I bought I noticed that the cut out artifact cards (the back cover of the quest book) the distributions were off (because it's easy to confuse which artifacts came with Kellar's Keep and which came with Return of the Witch Lord). of Course I am talking about the US edition. the EU and australian editions are different that's more what you're talking about in your video.

[@AndyTomlins]

I loved the lore in the Kellars Keep Quest Book. I still remember the bit about the Emperor's champion holding the bridge against Morcars army giving us time to escape. Morcar being impressed at first. Then kills him with a wave of his hand or something.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

That's right. Kenaron, the captain of the guard. Single-handedly holds off the Doomguard until Morcar loses his patience. It's a great little story beat - and it's quite interesting to see a character that isn't one of the main heroes of the game doing something awesome. HeroQuest really did a neat job of weaving a story that felt bigger than you're part in it.

[@phildevey6302]

What an expansion this is: the extra orcs & goblins, the new map overlays, the four part map, and the way the missions form an ongoing story that gradually unfolds. Fabulous stuff! One of the best expansions from GW for any of their boxed games. Just to emphasize your point about the boxes being flimsy, mine is somewhat squashed and has a rip in the front (right in the middle of the picture, unfortunately) where something has punctured it during storage.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Yeah. This is a really good one. It's a shame about the box, but at least you still have one! The American boxes were so much better.

[@joecosier22]

I just picked kellar's keep a couple weeks ago for $150us that was still in the box with unpunched tiles and minis still on the sprues! The box is nice to have. I also have return of the witch lord but no box...not sure when or where I picked it up, I do know that it was at a flea market with the core set for $10.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Nice finds.

[@stuffandnonsense8528]

It's funny how people have come to pronounce 'Ye Olde' as 'yee old' or even 'yee oldee', the letter which looks like 'Y' was actually never a 'Y' at all, it was originally the letter we call 'thorn' which was part of Northern European scripts for a long time and stood for the digraph we now write as 'th'. So 'ye' is actually 'the' and was always pronounced 'the'. The reason thorn got replaced by Y is because it started to look more like Y and then type sets imported from Europe didn't include a thorn letter so people just used the Y, which shouldn't apply to pub signage of course, but it's just one of those funny things where people forget.

[@northernsupernova1]

the more you know. Thanks

[@HeroQuestFans]

100% true. heroquest itself is full of factoids from the middle ages, but it's a tribute to pop culture fantasy lore. but yes, it would be "the old inn" pronounced like that, or however a medieval person would say it. then again the world of heroquest might not actually be earth, but some kind of parallel world in another dimension. I still say "ye old inn" when I say it out loud though, easier to remember how to spell it when you type it in! but I don't say "oldy" you've got me there.

[@stuffandnonsense8528]

@@HeroQuestFans oh, I knowingly say 'yeeee oldeeee' because it's funny. But I don't say Inn, it's much funnier to say pube, but to pronounce it in the modern way.

[@Skullduggerydodo]

Really enjoying this series, love it

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

That’s great. I’m so pleased you’re enjoying it.

[@Flamethrower1942]

I brought a cheap copy of heroquest before lockdown from a car boot and it has this and the witch lord expansion included,other than the box being a mess the game pieces were in great condition not a lick of paint on them.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

What an incredible find, especially with the expansions included. I need to do a video on box repairs once I have finished with the painting

[@johnryan509]

Really brings me back...

[@TinyDiodes]

I only made it through the first 3 maps roughly but I LOVE this expansion. I was super impressed at how creative the map designer was with breaking up the stock set-feel of the one map board. They make it almost completely unrecognizable at times. I also really loved the sort of DOOM feel, where secret walls would suddenly open up and dump a TON of greenskins right on the heroes backs. Great fun. This is exactly where my group will be picking up in the upcoming months now that we are all getting vaccinated, I can't wait!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Yeah, there are some really fun missions in this one. I sort of flip flop between preferring this one or Witch Lord. Problem is, I love greenskins and undead, so I'm very torn! I think the missions are probably a bit better in Kellar's Keep.

[@DavidGreen_au]

I remember getting Kellar and Witch Lord together (back in the days of antiquity), both being really great additions, especially Witch Lord as it came with new figures. But when it came to figures, the Ogre Horde expansion also took a big leap with its Ogre figures.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Return of the Witch Lord just had two more sprues of the white enemies (zombies, mummies, and skeletons), Wizards of Morcar and Against the Ogre Horde both had new models though, and yeah, the ogres were sweet. Maybe one day I will have enough spare cash to add them to the collection!

[@DavidGreen_au]

I never managed to get the Elf expansion, and within the last ½ hour checked on eBay for availability. Some individual figures for around €40 each, and a complete, unopened pack for US$1200. If new HeroQuest expands further, maybe these packs will get a re-issue, in which case, I'll get it then. The Ogres have moveable arms. That was a surprising shift in the figure designs.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It's because the ogres were in several parts, so you could position the arms in different ways. The elf and barbarian packs were never released in the UK so I don't have any real connection with those that makes me want them (thankfully, considering that price!). It would be nice to see Hasbro pick up and the ball and run with it though. I hope they do release the new edition at retail, as I would like to have a set with the US rules as they're so different.

[@DavidGreen_au]

The enemy with multiple body points was one of the significant changes in the US version, which is something that I added early on to certain denizens when playing. It was also an opportunity to have fun with the players when they encountered, maybe a Goblin with more magic and body points than them; Preconceptions can be dangerous :)

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Those sneaky gobbos. When I first started playing HeroQuest my older brother was Morcar. By the time we got to named characters (like the boss orc and the like), he was bumping up their life points. Of course, back then I had no idea that the American version had enemies with varying life points - it just seemed like a natural thing to do to make some oof the encounters more dramatic.

[@madmerlinsart]

I still need to get this for my collection, I keep seeing them on ebay but often go over what I'm willing to spend at the time. Maybe one day I'll get lucky.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Buying HeroQuest stuff is a waiting game, I find. Things normally go for high amounts, but sometimes something slips through the cracks. Good luck with the search!

[@madmerlinsart]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring yeah my base set was one of those crack slippers got it for a great price, 99.9% complete few minor damages which have since been fixed.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I love it when that happens.

[@daviddupont517]

I have actuality finish chapter one this week. I will start this extensions in A few week

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I hope you have fun with it.

[@knghtbrd]

It's a little hard to tell, but it looks like the EU version of the expansion has tiles similar in quality to the base Game System. There'd be no way you'd mistake the expansion tiles for anything else on this side of the pond. I picked up a copy just before I moved and just got all that stuff out of storage. I've genuinely had thicker cereal boxes than the bits in Kellar's Keep. Apparently Return of the Witch Lord has the same fine "quality" components. The US-exclusive quest packs got better treatment and are made like what came in the main box.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Yeah, apart from a little colour variation it's not that easy to tell where the tokens came from. However, in Europe at least, the card stock was never great anyway. I don't know if the American core set actually had better quality card to begin with than what we ever had over here.

[@Mailed-Knight]

Cool.

[@bbqboi182]

What about the artifact cards. I don’t know which ones go to which expansion

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

The artifact cards weren't in the European editions (the version in the video is the UK edition). The artifacts were printed on the reverse of the expansion books, so if you're lucky they won't be cut out and will still be there. If your copy is cut up, Kellar's Keep should have 8 magic scrolls (Ball of Flame, Fire of Wrath, Tempest, Sleep, Heal Body, Rock Skin, Genie and Courage), plus throwing dagger and fire ring.

[@bbqboi182]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring awesome thanks!!! I got my board game on an auction site and paid like 115 for the board game plus Keller’s keep and witch lord so I’m trying to go through and sort out all the pieces. Thanks again

[@stephenoshea3471]

Great video, thanks! Facebook Marketplace is also good for picking up copies of this. Any plans to get Against the Ogre Horde and/or Wizards of Morcar? They're so so expensive these days!

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I would love to get Ogre Horde and Wizards, but the prices means it's not so likely. I have toyed with the idea of buying reproduction pieces off Etsy and printing up all the card components myself. But I know I'm never going to be happy with that. I will want the original parts!

[@stephenoshea3471]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I'm totally with you, it's got to be the original stuff! It's just not the same. Perhaps you'll get lucky and receive another very generous donation ;) Keep up the great work, love the channel, the highlight of my day is waiting for another video while I work on my HQ project

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Maybe if I ever get to 10,000 subscribers I'll do something crazy and splurge on something expensive. Thanks so much for the kind words. I'm so glad you are enjoying the videos.

[@blackraptor311]

My father has the two expansions that were released in the U.S. (Return of the Witch King being the other as you know). However, I do have two copies of the base game. So... if I wanted to, I can get the pdfs of the expansions, and do a make shift version of them. Probably won't go that far but it is possible.

[@patricladubla5251]

Ooooohhhhhh yeahhhh....:)

[@davidenania7386]

Great review, but if I may suggest for other videos: instead of 3 minutes at the beginning where you fix the camera on the quest book, it would be more interesting if you actually go slowly through it while you speak.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I'm not showing inside the quest books because that would be spoilers.

[@davidenania7386]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring oh, I did not think about that. Ignore my comment then :)

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

No worries. I specifically state why I don't show the inside of the quest book in my Return of the With Lord video. I should have mentioned it in this video as well but I forgot! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.

[@cutiebrianna7609]

Back in the day I was able to pick up all of the expansions except for the design kit one. Unfortunately, they're just sitting in the closet collecting dust now.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

That's a nice little stash to have in the cupboard.

[@faxanadu13]

Any plans to sell them? I might be looking for Keller’s Keep

[@mikolajwitkowski8093]

We still do it, I for one throw away expansion boxes.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

I have a box 'o boxes in the attic. I tend to have to be quite ruthless sometimes moving on games to make space, and I prefer to be able to rehome them in the original packaging where possible.

[@JohnSmith-un9fy]

Kellers keep can be downloaded free at Ye Old Inn.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

As can everything else. Ye Old Inn is a great resource, but I like to have and restore original materials, and that's what I cover on my channel.

[@dalelewis625]

The 11 year old me thought it was a great idea.... Especially with hard core concrete glue 😂😂

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Surprised there's not a bit of solder in there! Well, they are supposed to be reinforced doors, after all.

[@dalelewis625]

@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Ahh my solder iron pile. Made a great piece of scenery :)

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

It was an excellent rock pile or magic totem. Also weighed a ton.

[@faxanadu13]

My 11 year old self thought it was a good idea to paint my minis with glassy car paint and coat most of the weapons with plenty of bloody paint. Also one of my skeletons was painted black and one chaos warrior was a green metallic like the green knight from King Arthur

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

@@faxanadu13 Ha. My chaos warriors are metallic green. I think it looks awesome.

[@jamessm4401]

Good luck finding expansions for HQ that are under 300 bucks. Yikes so expensive.

[@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring]

Kellar's Keep and Witch Lord are pretty easy to get in the UK for reasonable money. Boxed copies can go to around £100, but it's possible to snag copies for around £50. Wizards of Morcar and Against the Ogre Horde is another matter - those are well over £200, often over £300.