Buying Pre-Owned Carbon Bike Frame: "Once Over" Things To Check

[@LuescherTeknik]

Thanks for the mention Shane, some good info there. My additional golden tip is to remove the stem and check the fork steerer for over tightening the stem clamp, it is really common to see damage in this area. If in doubt bring it in for a scan.

[@bakhirun]

Most appreciated, Shane. Great set of tips. I've so many cases of carbon fiber failure that I am quite wary about riding a CF bike on generally poorly-maintained Indonesian roads - or buying a second-hand frame locally. I'll be sure to follow your checklist.

[@crazycodkilla99]

ya that would be amazing if you could go through some of it while you're building it!

[@michaelcreek4035]

I love my Giant, exactly the same frame changed it to 11 speed easy as. Welcome back to the Giant club

[@JeffreyThistle]

Post a video of how it looks after it's built please.

[@arock3053]

+1! Would be great to see a "how to" of the build as well, if possible. In particular bottom bracket and head tube, steerer assembly. I'm thinking of building my next bike and the Giant is one of the frames I am looking at as well. Enjoy it, Shane! -- And thank you for the videos!

[@jamesroyds5069]

Another quality bike youtube vid. Thanks shane. Can't wait to get back down under to enjoy more outdoor cycling. Snow expected where I am tonight.

[@cooper9917]

Thanks for the video! I am going to inspect a used Ridley Xnight carbon frame and have a bit more confidence in my decision-making now.

[@brianhillebrand7140]

I'd enjoy a vlog of you building this bike including info about the components you choose and reasons for choosing them

[@biskitalia1]

just a couple of things . I know the frame looks good , but you should have pointed out the bottom bracket area sometimes the insert comes unglued and cracks around hole The rear hangar, is the thread crossed or worn and lastly the intergrated seat stem in a crash that area takes a real bash so check for cracks there . The frame looks new and I know you are going to get it checked out so these other things to look for when buying a second hand frame. Buona pedalata ciao Jon

[@mikex8254]

uv exposure can make plastic become very brittle and shatter if it has been stored in direct sunlight for long periods. even if an old frame appear ok its probably wise to replace a frame when it become old and had alot of uv exposure to sunlight or stored in a cold unheated garage

[@arollason111]

Looking forwards to the build videos! Looks like an awesome frame.

[@saleemwaheed9956]

Shane your videos are cool. You have an easy going style that is really appealing. I want a carbon frame set, and buying one used is probably my only hope.

[@MickJabber]

Raoul is a great man, absolute legend.

[@AzzaBit]

Love the saw horse bike mount. looks like a trip to bunnings tomorrow

[@SU37]

HI I bought a similar frame, the early SL version. after I took it home I found out the seat tube is cracked. So be sure the check it by pull it out. also the rear wheel hanger CF parts also worn out by the QR skewer. Bugger

[@BIGDO13]

Deffo wanna see you build it...

[@BobMaulucci]

Great looking frame, clean as heck.

[@taavinen]

Love the frame stand mate. Going to build one myself 👍🏼

[@gplama]

Just rolled in the door from another 70km on it. It's growing on me. I still need to tweak the bars/stem combo.

[@OliverBatchelor]

Looks in better condition/less used than my 3 month old frame. I tried to make a stand like yours, but messed up - the sawhorse is marginally too wide, so I'm going to need to nail a piece on to lift the bike up or plane the end down.

[@uhhhhh262]

Thanks for the Waze shout 👍🏼 awesome in London

[@lbmcr]

you've got yourself a cracking frame.. nice one

[@gplama]

Cheers... well.. I hope it doesn't crack! ;)

[@lbmcr]

Shane Miller .... ;-)

[@nicolainielsen7700]

Are you going to make a build video on it? Like a tutorial on how to build a bike.

[@MaximeToulliou]

Great job on getting this frame! You should do a tutorial showing how to build that stand it looks ace

[@Orgakoyd]

Nice stand! I'm planning the same thing, but using just a hub axle out of the rear hub of a BSO (Bicycle Shaped Object) found on the street. I'll do a video of it.

[@iainkenneth9952]

Wow, nice frame. I would love to see the finished build.

[@bartdebruin6999]

Really nice video! I was wondering if you have any video on how you made that bike stand. It looks really nice!

[@Mr220mw]

Greetings from Southern California Shane. That's a great looking frame! What groupset are you going to build it up with? It would be helpful to see the build up and why you picked those components. BTW, found your channel when you appeared on the Cycling Mavin's VLOG. All the best!

[@gplama]

Thanks for watching and dropping by with a comment. I'm putting DuraAce 9000 (mechanical 11spd) on this one. I picked up the groupset for under AU$1000 new so it's a budget build (frame and wheels AU$800) that should end up being a pretty nice bike. Still a few days off finishing it. I'll cover it in a video for sure.

[@Hjemtilhjem1986]

Make a video where you build the bike up, going to build my first bike next week and think the inner cabling will be hard to do.

[@EatSleepTrainSmart]

Tom Erik Sivertsen Having a spare spoke (J Bend) available helps a lot with internal cabling. A borescope also helps with cable routing and inspecting the inside of the frame for damage.

[@barefeg]

awesome series

[@albr4]

Apparently you can "tap" the carbon to see if it's structurally sound. Broken carbon will make a different sound from good carbon.

[@gplama]

Only for the ears of experts. It'd be difficult for me to know the differences would be.

[@meatpopsic1e]

Looking forward to the build. What about a "once over" wheel inspection?

[@gplama]

Excellent topic to discuss! I'll put that on the list. The wheelset I got with the new bike hasn't made it on camera yet. Stay tuned! :)

[@Missouriflies]

check under the chainstays near the BB ......

[@orci77]

If you go for a Power2Max it would be interesting to see what to do with Shimano crank and chain ring. As far as i understood you cannot use the original Shimano parts. Or does this change with version 2?

[@oahceilliw]

you gotta check the bottom of the bb area, that's where I found a hairline crack once on a second hand carbon bike

[@robbiestorey8262]

would recomend pulling stem off and checking steerer for over-tightening... burnt by that one before..

[@gplama]

I should have included that, yep. We had it off yesterday when we chopped and slammed it at Dr SLane's. It's looking pretty neat now! Not far off hitting the road on it for a good roll.

[@jonathank5289]

DURIANRIDER - will be proud you are riding a TCR even if you aren't vegan. I think his is 2012 or 2013 and he's taken up MTB trails in Los Angeles that many mountain bikers don't ride! Add crazy adventure 150km rides on nasty road/ trails in Thailand!

[@ZMan-xr5fz]

How do you get your audio so good?

[@gplama]

I use a seperate mic.

[@pedroandrade2398]

those giant colours are my favorite in every single model. Dope s***t! \m/ so you think that's worth buying fram and separate components and build yourself instead of a buying a complete one with same specs? regards.

[@gplama]

Just wait until I put blue bar tape on it and totally ruin the vibe! haha! :) Buying 2nd hand in parts is cheaper for me as I like to customise most of a build. If I went a full bike I'd only have to strip it and sell/buy other components.

[@pedroandrade2398]

Shane Miller i'll wait and see. regards from portugal.

[@mealdama]

where can I get a mount axle like what you've got there Shane? thinking of doing the same diy stand but don't know where to look for the axle mount

[@gplama]

It's just a front hub I picked up for $5 or so from a 2nd hand bike bits store.

[@ketjuariittaa]

Now this winter(ozzi summer) Shane will have a new bike🤓☝🏻

[@benb1071]

Build video next!

[@kermit56780]

yep on the rear chainstay is nothing absolutely nothing, was only caused by wheel flex hitting a nice big rut in the road OR the previous owner having had one too many currys trying to keep his BMI in check.

[@MrOndrof]

how much did you pay for this frame? also how much would i spend if i wanted all components on it

[@gplama]

Around AU$700.... Components depend on what level you go with. I've gone DuraAce 9000 and using a lot of parts I already had. The whole build came to around $2500 for now....

[@elidouek5438]

why were there two holes (one plugged) below the FD mount?

[@biskitalia1]

perhaps for mounting 53/39 or 50/34 the changer is mounted higher or lower

[@willwhite1987]

You're paying lots of attention to cosmetics, but really on a second-hand bike it is functionality/structural integrity that matters most. Even if the paint job was dented here and there, there is nothing that a couple of layers of nail polish couldn't take care of. But being able to spot cracks or signs of serious wear is what's it should be about -- also, headpost, and short the fork has been cut off, and if it was done properly.

[@gplama]

That's what I was doing... Cosmetics is indicative of the life the bike has had. If I saw wear and tear on it, I'd have taken it to Luescher Teknik for a scan and review.

[@ch2263]

Why train indoors in Australian weather?

[@gplama]

Australia is a big place. Today we have 40C in some parts, blizzards in others. There's also factors such as time, roads, other weather, kids, work. Some people choose to train inside. Some not. It's all good.

[@davidddd7594]

CBT Nugget inspired outro?

[@gplama]

Jeeezzz.... It's been years since I've watched those. Security+ I think was the last series I slept, er, sat though. (Kidding on the sleeping, they're a brilliant series of videos). Lama. MSCE CCNP CNA Sec+ Linux+... um.... SCSA (Solaris...) and I forget the rest.

[@maxfactor4209]

I should do sound test too

[@R.T_Go_Your_Own_Way]

Nice vid Lama , but I still don't trust carbon frames , let alone second hand carbon frames.

[@gplama]

As long as you're into bikes, it's all good. Carbon, steel, bamboo... wait.... maybe no the bamboo one. They're really heavy! :)

[@thetheflyinghawaiian]

All this does is make me realize how beat my bike is.

[@silviofontana3666]

its a giant, why bother buying such a sub class frame, Colnago, the most innovative bike frame company in the world.

[@gplama]

+Silvio Fontana Because it was cheap and good value for what I'll be using it for.

[@silviofontana3666]

Cool, enjoy your ride, even the pro tour teams ride Giants, so there must be some goodness in some of their range - ride hard mate, before you get too old like me - cheers

[@grahamkitchen1077]

its the rider , not the frame , by the look of the frame in this video i would say it has never been used . why buy a bike and never use it ?

[@gplama]

I think this was a warranty replacement or insurance replacement or similar.

[@wildsilverh]

Add "carbon" to the title for more views!

[@gplama]

You sir, are a wizard! ;)

[@wildsilverh]

I thought some more. "buying used carbon bike frame, is it safe" Second hand is Aussie.. Used is global.

[@AaronGale85]

1st

[@chewchew74]

what's the point of showing a perfectly good frame...

[@gplama]

I'm showing what to check for. You're disappointed I purchased a good frame?