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Now available on Amazon for less $: amzn.to/3GGSwLX See our follow up test: • ​@ProjectFarm Was Righ... Check out our T-shirt Shop: bit.ly/3z98ryF Milwaukee 2565-20 goes up against Kobalt Brushless (not XTR, sorry) KRAIW 124B-03. It's a right angle head-to-head. One brand shows higher power figures but also lower voltage - which is the determining factor in power? Is there one? Is any brand really to be trusted to compare to another's power figures? We certainly find out.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

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[@Fly2kill1]

The Kobalt isn’t XTR. Never mind I seen you already said something. As a Kobalt fanboy I’m diligently waiting for more XTR tools, hopefully a nail gun.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

@@Fly2kill1 Yeah spot on. We're hoping for an XTR mid torque, but with Flex a thing now we're unsure.

[@Fly2kill1]

@@TorqueTestChannel they have said Flex will totally be it’s own thing and won’t interfere with Kobalt. Time will tell.

[@aj1theman827]

What date did you buy the kobalt as i have seen them for 99$ for a long time now (btw love the Channel)

[@AJDoll]

I wonder how much the anti kickback function plays a role in the test. If your test bolt doest dead stop the tool and keeps turning then the Milwaukee may be throttling the torque and only ramping as the resistance becomes closer to a dead stop. It may be a factor and it would be interesting to see what Milwaukee says about that. They have been pretty straight forward and I haven't known them to need miss represent the tools they produce. I would be willing to bet it is capable of at least closer to the claim because that was to much discrepancy to not throw up a red flag. I think I will wait just a bit before I purchase. But it would be awesome to get feedback from Milwaukee.

[@colinstu]

Test a breaker bar on there, and some cheater pipes... want to see how a human ranks on the graphs/charts! (forward and reverse threaded test too!)

[@benmiller5015]

Well considering a 12 inch bar gives a 1:1 so if you put 100 lbs on the bar you get 100 at the bolt. Putting 100 lbs on 24 inches gives 200, n so on n so forth

[@kuhrd]

@@benmiller5015 The only issue there is that they calibrated this rig with an older IR impact gun and used its claimed torque rating to compare against other tool brands so the torque displayed here is not the actual measured torque but more of a comparison of how the tool stacks up to that IR impact that was used to calibrate the setup. That is unless they recalibrated to an actual torque wrench since then but I have not seen a video released on that. The comparison to me is useless because I actually want to know what the tool is exactly capable of rather than how much one tool company lied compared to another one.

[@benmiller5015]

@@kuhrd I completely agree that an accurate torque measurement of what the guns are making would be nice n comparing a torque wrench or breaker bar on this setup wouldn't be the most accurate. I was just offering the gentleman the rule of using cheater bars n what the affects leverage has on torque. Another way to look at it is with the actual equation of force applied x distance from bolt, divided by 12 = actual torque

[@landisdavidson6648]

A hand cranked geared lug nut remover would be interesting to test as well

[@TorqueTestChannel]

@@kuhrd The myth that there IS an exact ft-lbs torque capable number will persist forever. 150 ft-lbs on this greased 1.5" custom bolt and pitch does not equal 150ft-lbs at your house on your lug nut due to a list of reasons. Values here were always going to be relative between tools whether we used a torque wrench or not. At least this way we're not selling people a load of goods by claiming its REAL ft-lbs.

[@SC-yb5sv]

I bought Kobalt as an impulse buy when it was $99 and then always wished I could have gotten Milwaukee. After watching this video, I am glad I made that impulse decision.

[@AlGoYoSu]

I'm in the Kobalt and M18 line, so like you I went with the Kobalt when it was at $99 but also with a free 2.0ah battery.

[@dominicsapienza]

Yeah but it's still actually different if Milwaukee was a 24v I'm pretty sure it would of blew the kobalt it was under by 12volts that a pretty big difference

[@ricksgiggle8852]

@@dominicsapienza then why list 220ft lbs????? I'm a big milwaukee fan but im in several tool lines because I like a deal when I find one. The only downside is the Kobalt is HUGE!

[@craftymonkeyjunk]

I did the exact same thing!

[@dominicsapienza]

@Giorgio Mumda yeah no they Def didn't hit the number on the right angle impact cause mine won't even touch near 160 but all tool company's lie they all do his channel has proved it on all the tools they tested only 1 tool did the number they claimed n some more but that wasn't the point I was tryna to make the point was u can't compare a 12v to a 24v that's just like makit 54v line vs a 12v line who's gonna do better ovb the 54v cause it's packing more each to there own I run different lines myself I got ryobi Dewalt Milwaukee Bosch

[@cefrayer]

As an attorney who has written product marketing-related language, here are my thoughts on each manufacturer’s written torque claims as shown in your video: 1. Milwaukee: The language used does NOT claim that the tool produces “220 ft-lbs of nut-busting torque” EVEN THOUGH those words are an exact quote. Rather, it is those two tiny, easily glossed over, lead-in (aka, qualifying) words, “up to”, that make all the difference. Whenever you see those magical limiting words “up to” preceding a claim (in this case, a torque claim), it means that literally any amount of torque-from as low as ONE (1) ft-lb-makes that claim valid. If they removed those two words, then-assuming your test unit accurately represents a typical unit of that model-they might need to prepare for a class action lawsuit. In short, these two little words lead me to reasonably conclude that a lawyer wrote and/or edited this claim to protect his client. 2. Kobalt: This language-“generates 180 ft-lbs of torque”-is a clear claim subject to objective testing. Either a typical unit of that model does what they claim, or they’ve lied. And, as your testing shows, they did NOT lie. Therefore, I reasonably conclude that either this was written by an engineer and/or marketing person and never reviewed and/or edited by an attorney, OR an attorney did review it and made the engineer and/or marketing produce objective proof of the claim’s validity before s/he approved it’s publication. To me, this looks like a classic business strategy of “Always deliver more than you promise (aka, underpromise & overdeliver because it leaves the consumer feeling like they got more than they paid for).” DISCLAIMER: NOT LEGAL ADVICE.

[@jaysdood]

Yeah, I've had sex with up to 1000 super models.😅

[@reallyhappenings5597]

"As an attorney... this is not legal advice."

[@cefrayer]

@@reallyhappenings5597 “As an attorney…here are my thoughts…” Lawyers often provide legal commentary (e.g., on news programs or KZbin) that does not involve giving legal advice. The same is true with medical doctors (e.g, I’ve watched several in the last 24 hours providing commentary-not medical advice-on Bronny James’ cardiac arrest).

[@FRERABRETZ1]

Shut up

[@clubpenguin6952]

Upgraded from an older 18v kit. kzbin.infoUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.

[@bigbrown2690]

I am just a 1st time young home owner that has bought into the Kobalt line. Mainly due to price/value proposition. I’m nowhere near a professional, but I like to be handy and try to fix things myself. For my DIY projects they have been perfect, even their outdoor equipment (24V weed eater / blower combo) have been great for the size yard I have. I originally wanted Milwaukee just to buy the best of the best, but for around the house and recreation building/fixing things, the Kobalt line has really impressed me, never feel like I’m making a bad purchase with them so far! Plus Lowe’s customer service has been wonderful at my local place. Not to mention the military discount Lowe’s offers that Home Depot doesn’t, Just makes my dollar go a little farther👍

[@98ChevyK1500Z71]

Was on the fence about buying the M12....definitely waiting for v2 now. Hope this channel continues to educate the public and show manufacturers some unbiased raw data. You guys are doing a great job!!!

[@GMONEYFIFTYFOUR]

I was thinking about the m12 tool range because of the price compared to m18 and now I really don’t know what to do

[@98ChevyK1500Z71]

@@GMONEYFIFTYFOUR Both systems have great products. Yes there's a bunch of duplicates, but there's even more differences. M12 has smaller lights and the under hood light along with ratchets. M18 has more powerful impacts and bigger lights along with other more power demanding tools. Really comes down to what tools you're looking for and what you're doing. Some people are able to stick with one system, but it's very easy to get into both.

[@fredygump5578]

What you meant is wait for the M18 version. This M12 isn't a bad design, so don't expect a dramatically stronger version.

[@98ChevyK1500Z71]

@@fredygump5578 Actually, there is a M18 3/8-in now, but it only makes 60 ft-lbs. I thought I saw somewhere that they were refreshing it.

[@ruthnoya8424]

Why? It's a great tool. It's got plenty of torque for nuts in places where a standard impact won't fit. You're not going to use a right angle impact for an axle nut or crankshaft bolt.

[@saulgood6190]

"At least you know what your getting when you sign up for DP"... Man just slippin them jokes in there with finesse lol.

[@hayden199516]

He never misses a chance for a good old DP!

[@twotymer4458]

Lmao!

[@yup3398]

@@twotymer4458 not with DP

[@smevox7490]

Your channel and the others have become priceless in terms of properly getting what you pay for.

[@thalegacy6]

I'm a huge Milwaukee fan but it's mainly because I'm invested in the battery platform and they do more than what I need if them to accomplish. This is great for the sake of competition. Kobalt and Flex is putting Milwaukee and Dewalt on notice, can't wait to see how they respond!

[@spilledit]

I have Milwaukee for the things I NEED to go well. I use Ryobi for everything else. It's way more cost effective.

[@SGAOuTLaWz]

The Kobalt right angle impact is a beast. Thanks for the honest test TTC!

[@keeghaninglis-dow6122]

I love that Kobalt is one of the few companies that is conservative with torque ratings. With Kobalt you can usually expect at least the advertised torque where as other companies you can usually only hope to see the advertised torque but usually end up with less.

[@djosbun]

At the end of your rant regarding voltage and torque numbers, I loudly said "Word!". Waive that TTT banner high and proud!

[@dougsinsabaugh2140]

I don’t remember that in Trouble in Terrorist Town

[@matthewdrew6268]

I've been crazy impressed by the kobalt line up. Been buying tons of it for work any my guys can't seem to kill them!

[@alexp6016]

I’m really surprised. I was back and forth between these two just a few weeks ago, and I ended up with the Milwaukee. I’m happy with it, it’s done everything I’ve needed it to.

[@jordanbrown1170]

Agreed, I have not come across a bolt yet that this didn't make me bust out the breaker bar

[@jakehennessy7]

Tbh 100 ft lbs will do most bolts where you need a right angle like this

[@mos8541]

...well...as long as you're happy..pay no attention to the man behind the curtain

[@alexp6016]

@@mos8541 yup! The M12 is a little more compact too, so that was also a selling point.

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

The batteries and other tools you already own is a bigger factor, imo.

[@piciu256]

I'm impressed, now I no longer believe I need air for this use case.

[@kevinragsdale6256]

I'm gonna go share this on the Milwaukee Facebook rampage and ruffle feathers

[@P_steez]

They’ll come up with an excuse as to why Milwaukee is still better. Trust me

[@kevinragsdale6256]

@@P_steez they are, they jumped to telling me "why are you justifying your shitty kobalt tools" among other things

[@XloMotion]

They will discredit the channel because they're a cult.

[@dominicsapienza]

Lol everyone has there own tool needs but u can't rlly justify saying Milwaukee is better or kobalt is better unless kobalt makes a 12volt version ur comparing something that's 12v to 24v a big difference

[@P_steez]

@@dominicsapienza maybe your argument could be justified IF the Milwaukee wasn’t almost 100$ more expensive. The kobalt is in the same price range (even cheaper) than Milwaukee so you can totally compare the two

[@TheLastTater]

You guys Rock!! I did not expect that the kobalt to punch that high above its box numbers.

[@美優美結実優美夕みゆ]

Super surprising! Kinda felt my Milwaukee right angle was a little underpowered and now it makes sense.

[@steveaguero8483]

I felt the same way after using mine. I was excited when I first got it but after a couple of uses its more a tool that hardly gets any use now because of lack of power

[@美優美結実優美夕みゆ]

@@steveaguero8483 ended up selling mine and sticking with busting my knuckles. Hopefully Milwaukee makes a better gen 2.

[@xxboodydoo65xx41]

Try using a high output battery instead of the xc ones. They make a BIG difference in fuel tools. They bring out the potential in them.

[@nosaj03]

This is a great vid! While there is a significant difference in performance, I'm too invested in the Milwaukee platform that it wouldn't make sense to spend money on another platform.

[@mryork_]

Been using kobalt for a bit, I run both 24v and a few Milwaukee for the unique stuff. I like seeing kobalt get more coverage because dayum are they good and cost not so much

[@nobodyuknow4911]

Me too, I got the Kobalt 24v tools and have been using them for years now and love them. I'm not going to worry about whether or not it is and always will be the best there is, but it's well made, and does the job I bought it for every bit as good as any of the more expensive brands I've owned in my time. I've said for a very long time, caring more about the brand that what it's doing for you is selling yourself to them.

[@rustyshackelford7651]

Yes the kobalt 24v are really great. Probably my favorite is the regular 3/8 impact and the 4" grinder.

[@ajmedeiros77]

I’m a makita fan, but have added a lot of kobalt stuff in the last couple years and have never been disappointed, if anything always pleasantly surprised! Cannot beat kobalt for the price

[@travisjazzbo3490]

Can't beat Makita... but most tool lines are pretty good for their various price ranges these days. Kobalt has some pretty nice deals that is for sur

[@ajmedeiros77]

@@travisjazzbo3490 yes great points. I think one of the reasons kobalt is as popular is because there are more Home Depot‘s then Lowe’s in general.

[@travisjazzbo3490]

@@ajmedeiros77 Kobalt is a house brand for Lowe's. Makita is not very well represented in America - not in Lowes at all, even pretty limited in Home Depot. Also, Makita puts little effort into marketing. They have been around for well over 100 years, been debt free since the 1960s, one of the top brands on the planet, either #1 or #2 I think, engineers and makes their own motors and has since the beginning, but not very popular in America, where marketing is the name of the game

[@joer8854]

@@travisjazzbo3490 A lot of pro's use Makita brand stuff.

[@mattcrook4978]

thanks for all you guys do for the tradesmen and diy-ers that depend on these tools and like to make informed decisions

[@RAHMX145]

I think having the M12 use a deep socket and the Kobalt use a short socket also makes an "impact" on the test results. I know from my experience shorter sockets tend to hit a bit harder as the fastener is closer to the anvil. Thanks for sharing gents.

[@niclikescakes]

@@ProToolsApproved Wrong. More rotating mass on the anvil side does not mean a harder hammer-blow. The internal hammer is what spins during the impacting phase the tool performs, more socket mass just creates more inertia that the tool has to overcome. I believe this was already covered on this very channel.

[@sumbochen2519]

I agree. Deep socket and short socket give different power impact.

[@reaperreaper5098]

@@ProToolsApproved A more rigid socket hits harder, as well as IR's flywheel socket. A heavier socket does not. TTC has proved this in a decently recent vid. By default, short sockets are very rigid, as there's not much material there to flex to begin with, so they're going to hit harder than a standard deep socket.

[@chrispowell6633]

Glad I’m not the only one to notice this. Wondering why if we are gonna do a direct comparison. Why not use the same socket.

[@bluedistortions]

Well.. This channel is the only channel I know that has actually tested those old claims. And they found it made no difference. It is a heavier internal hammer that does make a difference, not the socket.

[@thebackwoodsmechanic5029]

Best torque results found on this channel

[@rustyshackelford7651]

Nice I've been eyeballing that kobalt. It just seemed so large I feel like they'll be issues with clearance in a vehicle but might still be a pretty good tool. That thing had a lot of power

[@BlueUnicorn928]

I just got mine today, and when you first feel it it’ll feel heavier then you originally think even without the battery

[@Werewolfmage]

I bought the Milwaukee 2565-20 with 2t m12 xc 6.0. the kobalt was Unobtainium. I love watching this channel!

[@ronbeton1999]

I think I found my favourite channel on YT. Especially after the M12 battery comparison, I wanted to see that for years. Good job guys! P.s., what about testing cordless drills in the future? 😏

[@TorqueTestChannel]

We have a couple new testing rigs in the works as usual, but no promises they work!

[@edder7157]

We do owe you a debt of gratitude. Thank you for what you do.

[@jag12549]

Kobalt has been one of the best deals running. They make killer tools. I still have their caulk guns over 10 years later. Heavy contractor abuse. Still the best one I own. Consistantly impressed

[@SpatialDragon]

I am retired from professionally turning wrenches, I just tinker around my place on my own stuff and I bought cheap Black & Decker/Porter Cable/Craftsman 20v stuff. Yeah, they are not industrial grade. I used to use all air and corded stuff. You have cords or air hoses all over and people can trip, but they were much more powerful. Need a big compressor, now what do the big compressors do? Air up tires and blow off stuff? This cordless stuff is so much better than it was when it first came out. My cheap B&D drill is more powerful than the early Makita $200 drills and that was when gasoline was $0.90 a gallon... I enjoy seeing the progress. I was wondering if anyone made these type of impacts. Good video.

[@600ccgsxr8]

Most of the reviews I saw for the right angle impact said they wouldn't buy it again because they don't find it to be a 'must-have' tool. Love to know where it's most helpful.

[@nate6386]

I've got it and it's an odd duck. But it has saved my bacon a few times.

[@that1guy997]

It's nice for tight spots that need extra torque without busting your knuckles with a ratchet.

[@LKN117]

I have the M12, and have had really good luck out of mine. Being an equipment mechanic I run into all kinds of seized and caked on bolts, and haven't had many times where it didn't do what I needed. Maybe I got lucky with mine, but I really can't complain. Oddly enough I bought my tool used off the Cornwell truck. Some guy traded it in like a week after they bought it saying it couldn't remove torque converter bolts out of some car they were working on lol. Either way, being in the field I don't have enough room on my service truck to justify buying another tool with a different battery just because it hits a little harder. I already run half a dozen chargers from Snap-on 14.4, 18V, Dewalt 20, Milwaukee 12, 18V and misc. tools plus my company laptop charger. Another aspect I look at is reliability. The big box hardware store tool brands like Kobalt, Rigid etc. really aren't designed for industrial use anymore. They are marketed and built for the home gamer more often than not. Honestly the only tools that have failed me so far have been Snap-on, but I have owned them the longest and used them the hardest over the years. I would say IMO that the 18V Snap-on tools really are not worth the money and almost everything except 14.4V impact and ratchets are completely useless. The bit driver and 3/8" drill are latterly the worst battery powered tools I've purchased. aren't worth the money anymore now that the other brands have caught up and are much cheaper. I have been slowly phasing them out and relegating them to home toolbox duty.

[@GuyFromJupiter]

I do want to point out that the Kobalt one is technically just a standard 24V Max model, not a premium XTR model which is like the Fuel line from Milwaukee. Sadly Kobalt only has 5 XTR tools for the time being if I'm not mistaken, so there isn't an XTR version of this one. I guess one isn't entirely needed, but the comparatively small number of tools Kobalt makes is definitely the biggest weakness of the lineup.

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Yeah, great catch. When we put it on the rank list we left off XTR, but did say XTR at least a few times. That's my bad, i get confused between Kobalt brushless and Kobalt XTR. At least under Milwaukee FUEL usually means brushless and vice versa.

[@Hansengineering]

Countdown to Shimano suing Lowe's.

[@badbanano]

You touched on the difference a good impact socket can make in the same fastener.

[@Volksoner619]

I have the m12 3/8” right angle and use it daily for suspension installs on mostly jeeps and tacomas. It’s a fantastic tool when you know it’s capabilities and limitations.

[@garyradtke3252]

I like the last part of the statement especially. Knowing it's capabilities and limitations.

[@mediocreman2]

Mine is so weak and clumsy, it's just not worth using most of the time. It is usually collecting dust. I really wanted to love it, but it's a complete miss for Milwaukee. I would say it's good for smaller fasteners, but it's so heavy and awkward for its weak power, that it's just easier to use a 1/4" impact driver with an adapter. Or I use my excellent Makita or DeWalt non impact 1/4" for fasteners.

[@DEInTheGarage]

Hey Bud, You probably don't know me or my channel but we are shouting you out in our video today for this primo vid you put out on the Milwaukee VS the Kobalt. Love your channel and I think my viewers will too.

[@bradgilpin9740]

Thanks for this video!!! I have the pretty much every power hand tool from Kobalt. And I love them. I do feel Kobalt is a underrated brand. Yes they may not be the best in every category they are great tools for price and the DIY guy!

[@liamflack1974]

Thankyou for this channel you have saved me £s I'm so grateful and very entertaining. Brilliant channel

[@kylefleming1412]

I have the Milwaukee, it’s honestly my favorite impact. Still shocked the Kobalt did so well in comparison but great for them. Milwaukee will have to step it up for v2.

[@85Merf]

The real question is what tool will last longer with every day use

[@TelephonePlays]

Milwaukee is literally half the voltage, half the batteries. If milwaukee made a 24v, I'd expect 2x the performance, and kobalt is only about 1.5x sooooo

[@russgrebenc7923]

I have several Kobalt tools and Kobalt beat the only Milwaukee tool I bought. Needless to say I returned the Milwaukee

[@kickboxs77]

@@russgrebenc7923 😂🤣

[@Posichronic]

Half the voltage means twice the current for the same wattage. Current determines the required size of the conductors. The motor's wattage is what matters. Doubling the voltage would double the wattage for a few seconds until it lets the smoke out because it's wound for 12 volts, not 24. Even if it was wound for 24 volts, the wattage would probably still be the same because it would still have to dissipate the same amount of heat and maintain the same form factor and price point. There's also the discharge rating of the batteries to consider.

[@Wolf.diesel]

I gotta be honest. I'm still going to buy the M12 right angle impact. For working in auto body, tool clearance takes priority over beans. As much as I'd love to have silly amounts of torque, anything above 80 - 100 ft lbs is massive. Unless it's something like bolts for a truck box or lug nuts, then I need much more obviously. Even then any mid torque I'd have to be careful or would probably snap bolts/studs.

[@denoftools]

When you are chatting up that hot blond right before last call at the bar and she tells you she's 25 when she's clearly in her 30's do you care about the false marketing? Maybe being older I'm just more cynical and fully expect all marketing to exaggerate to one degree or another. HF is certainly one of the worst offenders of this, I really wish they would upgrade their marketing team the same way they have with some of their tools.

[@ryanthomas9685]

I think it’s more about rewarding the brands who are honest. That way you end up pleasantly surprised when they beat your expectations. Obviously most stretch the truth, but it would feel silly not to encourage honesty a little on these rankings. Max score of 100 keeps it balanced in the charts as well I think. That way there’s no incentive to under-claim as a way to beat the test methods

[@denoftools]

@@ryanthomas9685Do they need to be rewarded? If it's a crappy tool but they are honest about it should it get a bonus? Give them a gold star and a pat on the head, but I'm really only worried about Value = (performance x relibility x support / cost ). Look at the Matco air tool, it out performed the M12 in possible way but came in last becaue of some schumck in marketing screwed up the box info? As to the Kobalt? It's a fantasic tool and has the numbers to back it up, does it really need yet another boost just because the marketing department got the numbers wrong but in your favor?

[@TorqueTestChannel]

These companies know exactly what they are doing. They make a whole lot of money by putting higher numbers out than their competition. People walking around in a store can't complete that value formula before they purchase it without inputting their torque claim into the performance category. If the only place in the world these brands get dinged for being overzealous with their advertising is on a made up rank list on a small youtube channel, they should consider that a lucky break.

[@charlierigney1198]

Another consideration which is beyond the testers realm, battery investment .I would not consider a Kobalt tool as my battery stable consists of Dewalt and Milwalkee.. To me the value of this test is to alert me as to what to expect if I chose to buy the Milwalkee. I don't need anymore disappointment so I will pass for now and hope Dewalt jumps into the game

[@toyotatundra0455]

The Den of Tools is watching and commenting on the Torque Test Channel. I used to buy tools from the Hazard Fraud, but their higher quality tools cost more than the big box brands. The ICON tools are too expensive and are not great.

[@chrisbyers6084]

Been running Kolbalt 1/2 & 3/8 impacts for several years. The kind tools.

[@ImpalaSSRulz21]

I have the 20v ingersoll right angle impact(looks like the kobalt lol) and the w7150 1/2" and they are my most used power tools for the junkyard and home.

[@jeffreycastillo170]

My M12 collection just started shivering.

[@DirtTrailAdventures]

Your showing a 12v vs a 24v the fact that the 12v is within a range of that 24v is impressive by itself

[@OBSessed1995]

This just convinced me to buy the Kobalt right angle impact. Thought about going to M12 fuel for right angle tools but I'm already invested in the kobalt 24v line, so I guess it'd be worth it. This thing would've been great to have about 6 months ago when I replaced the clutch on my wife's hyundai. I was working alone so I had to use an impact on the flywheel bolts, my 1/4 didn't have enough torque, and I had to pull the transmission all the way out to fit my Kobalt 1/2. Wouldve been nice to leave the transmission a few inches away from the engine for easier reassembly

[@quazy1328]

You need to put the Milwaukee on the reverse setting, you had it on number 3. It does make a difference, my 3/8 stubby m12 takes lug nuts off on reverse mode but not on setting 3.

[@jrrod2004]

Agreed. Saw that. Since I have both the 3/8" and 1/2" Milwaukee at work. Both right angle versions from Milwaukee have impressed co-workers in rebuilds.

[@Jdl223]

The stubby gun 3 is the max torque, 4 is to slow it down after you've broken it free. I have it, it's a great tool

[@wallywest2360]

3 is max torque, 4 will reduce rpm in reverse when it senses the bolt/nut has broken free.

[@MrFixtheworld]

4 is called bolt break away or something. So I was wondering the same thing. Maybe try the torque test on setting 4 just to see if you can get the 220 like advertised.

[@Factoryseconds123]

Kobalt right angle would be nice and handy to throw in the back of the car for emergency tire changes. Just needs a deep socket. Compact. Powerful. Could def also be useful for roadside repairs. The long and slim form factor is great for working underneath cars and reaching into the engine bay.

[@mediocreman2]

I bought the Milwaukee the first day it came out a couple of years ago. There was no kobalt to compare it to add I was dead set on a cordless right angle. What I got was a heavy, clunky, long, thick headed, and weak Milwaukee impact. I own most of the Milwaukee impacts made in the last 5 years and I bet you can guess which one sees the least amount of use. But if you read the reviews of it, they make it sound amazing. It isn't. The high torque, mid torque and stubby cover 99% of what I work on.

[@timweb1510]

This is what worries me about buying the Kobalt or m12 right angle impact. If I’m already doing all the work by hand,, I can just use the m12 brushed electric once I get fastener a bit loose. Hope I have enough room for the $80 1/2 200 or 220 ft lbs Kobalt impact wrench or the m12 3/8 stubby if I have room.

[@garyjerniganjr]

I have been waiting for this. Glad I did

[@davew3880]

I'm impressed with the kobalt however I would likely still go for the milwaukee due to the fact that I'm already invested in m18/m12 would rather stick with 1 charger and already have batteries

[@misigler]

I agree 100%. Who wants numerous chargers and batteries of all different brands. There’s only so much space on the bench. I still prefer pneumatic tools which only need a couple drops of oil in the morning and your ready to go all day. For someone like me, who has been in this business for decades, I feel battery operated tools might seem more convenient but they are still in their infancy where pneumatic tools have been around a long time and gone through a thorough design and redesign process that makes them more dependable and rugged, unless you purchase cheap brands found at local discount stores. Battery tools would be good for a hobbyist or someone without an air compressor that delivers dry air.

[@huejanus5505]

@@misigler I agree, but someone, such as myself, who occasionally does a little work on my car on the weekends, is much better off just getting electric tools.

[@dsgarver]

I have this milwaukee tool as well as a mid and high torque. Torque is great for taking off wheels and bumpers. But you don’t want to much dealing with bolts in your brakes and water pump things like that. It seems to tighten it down just enough and then you can manually turn it like a regular ratchet. If you’ve been at this for a while you know how it’s supposed to feel. I have accidentally broken off the head of the bolt with a mid torque.

[@gjolinares23]

I’m pretty sure that kobalt is just their standard (most of their stuff released is brushless I believe) but XTR is like their version of fuel.

[@rockygambina312]

Just the battery was XTR. Not supposed to run better with it but seems like there’s some evidence they do.

[@MrMrfed]

@@rockygambina312 kobalt has stated that most tools will see a performance increase with their new battery

[@robertmcgehee949]

XTR is just a different battery cell and will run the exact same as non-XTR

[@gjolinares23]

@@rockygambina312 the batteries have a different name like ultimate output don’t they? XTR are just their higher performance tools.

[@mattadams7922]

Thier is no XTR 3/8 ratchet I'm in aware of it's just Kobalt. The XTR ultimate output batteries do make a difference with the XTR tools it seems. I have several of the XTR and the circ and recip do seem stronger with the Ultimate output battery as opposed to the standard 4.0. The switch to this is I have the rotary hammer and it works way better with the standard 6.0 then the ultimate output 4.0. I know apples to oranges I'm just stating. The torque spec on thier 3/8 ratchet is based on pairing with a 2ah slim pack as to keep the tool more low profile to fit in places. I love my Kobalt stuff. I'm team Chervon all the way.

[@Ka_Gg]

Thanks for the video! I received a kobalt 24v set for christmas and have been eyeing this right angle impact for a while now. Looks like I need to buy it.

[@85TransAm406]

I choose Milwaukee M12 for my automotive tools specifically due to battery size. On all my other tools, the large battery has gotten in the way so many times I sold everything and bought M12. However, I am not impressed by the m12 right angle impact, but would not buy the Kobalt either with that large battery. Hopefully Milwaukee makes a Gen2 right angle impact.

[@dominicsapienza]

They just came out with it this year so I wouldn't bet for another year or 2 at least it's not bad u can tell its under powered but it'll do car work in tight spots

[@dillonkoch72]

@@dominicsapienza it won't I have to break bolts lose with a ratchet then put the M12 on them. What a waste of $400

[@dominicsapienza]

@Dillon Koch it's rlly not ment to break bolts but to take them off quicker it'll do bolts torque to spec

[@dillonkoch72]

@@dominicsapienza yeah I noticed it's just annoying

[@dominicsapienza]

@Dillon Koch I mean mine took my tire off but it was torque to spec I mean what inside the car or under the hood is higher then 125?? I use it to.do brakes also depending on car some.cars it don't fit others it does

[@yunggolem4687]

Definitely know what you're getting when you sign up for DP.

[@daltonherring6410]

Honestly I know it had underwhelming power numbers, but I can’t even count the amount of time the Milwaukee has saved me. I still love that tool, just not quite as much as my m12 stubby lol

[@TorqueTestChannel]

When you compare it to a power ratchet, it's basically at least 5X better. So if you use it for stuff like that, it's always going to be a winner.

[@nate6386]

Yeh right there with you. It does not come out of the tool box very often but when it does its to solve a specific problem.

[@daltonherring6410]

@@TorqueTestChannel yeah I’ve barely used my power ratchet since I got the right angle.

[@flexapex9801]

I picked up the 2 pack battery with a charger get a free tool. very happy with it did not expect this kind of performance for the money.

[@johnsjunkyard]

Love the channel, have from the start, but I was watching the scoring system and wondered if you have considered including the % over 100 as a figure, rather than capping it. This would allow us to see the best of the over achievers and not potentially limit the score if all criteria are met or exceeded.

[@Clough42]

From a game-design perspective, capping at 100% makes sense. If you cap, manufacturers have an incentive to be as accurate as possible with their claims. If you don't cap, you provide incentive for tool manufacturers to lowball their claims to artificially move their tools up the rank chart without adding any actual value for the end user.

[@TheMetalButcher]

@@Clough42 I'm pretty sure brands aren't gonna low ball to millions of viewing eyes to score well on one (frankly) kinda of wierd scoring chart on one youtuber's channel. No disrespect to TTC, but I don't think he has that much sway.

[@thogevoll]

Another thing to consider too is how many different tool/battery systems do you want to commit to? You may already own several of one brand so in that case there's no expense for a battery as tou may already have several and you only need the bare tool.

[@ALAPINO]

I feel, just my opinion, that if a tool over-shoots its claim it should be rewarded with over that 100% mark. Just my thought on that portion of your ranking criteria. Cheers!

[@BroncobusterKY]

I have the Kobalt 24v max circular saw and the impact wrench. They have been extremely strong and durable. Absolutely no complaints

[@anarchy-x]

I own the Milwaukee, and I was less than impressed with it when I bought it. I rarely use it because of that. The Kobalt looks a bit bulky, but I'd need to see it in person to make a real world decision on it.

[@steveaguero8483]

Same reason why I stopped using mine

[@agoogleuser1188]

I’ve felt the cobalt in person and honestly it is much much larger than I would like especially with the higher capacity battery just feels so wonky and completely unbalanced I know it makes significantly less power but honestly the Milwaukee just makes more sense as a tool

[@disgruntledegghead6923]

Same here, but I got the M18 version. I don't even know where I left it the last time it disappointed me.

[@jacksmith2315]

@@disgruntledegghead6923 there is no m18 version of this tool. The m18 is basically a 1/4 impact driver but with a 3/8 anvil. Not meant for the same type of work. Not even close

[@disgruntledegghead6923]

@@jacksmith2315 If I can find it tomorrow I'll get the model number. There is such a thing.

[@kvn024]

Will wait for version 2 of that Milwaukee

[@TCDF22]

had the ryobi for a while now, primarily because i am far too deep into that ecosystem to change now, and i certainly wouldnt compare it to these w a straight face, but for home level light duty, it suffices

[@jnb756]

same - for the stuff I do (network installation, server rack installs/upgrades) the occasional counter cut through Ryobi is dollar for dollar good enough and has really stepped it up with the brushless stuff. Only things I haven't been happy with Ryobi over was a pressure washer and a hand held cordless cleaner - but they were for home use and were the kind of thing they seem to shoot themselves in the foot with after coming out with something impressive. I do like the Kobalt stuff and If I lived anywhere near a lowes I would consider switching over time

[@drjd2real]

Don't low rate ryobi! They make some strong stuff especially for the price. I'm deep in their ecosystem and I have no regrets. Ryobi has more tools than Kobalt. I saw the Kobalt get beat on KZbin by tools with less volts. I do own 4 Kobalt saw horses with the adjustable legs.

[@larrysutton2001]

I have the xtr tools. They are fantastic for the money. Free battery promotions helped them lure me in. I do not think they are pro quality but for my homeowner diy mechanic tasks they get it done.

[@ILYxIW]

Here's to hoping Milwaukee with make an improved gen 2 version. I like that it has such a slim head and obviously I'm already heavily invested in the Milwaukee lineup but I also had heard lackluster performance from this tool so I never bought into it. I do have many uses for a powerful compact right angle impact though.

[@2ndsam302]

Wish they make an M18 version.

[@mediocreman2]

How is it obvious to us that you're heavily invested in Milwaukee?

[@2ndsam302]

But pneumatic versions of these are pretty dope

[@theperfectpaintertoolreview]

I returned the milwaukee n bought the Kobalt and it is a beast for what it is. Idt its xtr tho, the box or tool doesn't say and it has no black on the tool. So idt the xtr battery gave it any extra power

[@jimmycalling9134]

Skil has a 12 volt bldc right angle impact driver for what it's worth

[@Deadite9405]

Project Farm just tested right-angle impacts and got drastically different results with a similar hydraulic ram setup.

[@lild123]

I came here to say that as well, I wonder why team red had such a significant difference on his compared to this test?

[@TorqueTestChannel]

Yeah It's strange. Also got "2100 psi" on a 2000psi gauge. Maybe the 3/8" M12 is better? That Kobalt 2ah battery can't be helping.

[@Hdrepairs]

You aren't using the Milwaukee properly. Use the number 3 setting for max torque not the number 4.

[@thomasmogensen1]

Thx for the metric / newtonmeter 👌🏻👍🏻 Great video

[@OmegaGamingNetwork]

As a general rule of thumb, I have never been particularly impressed with milwaukee's 12v line. Love their fuel line, but the M12..Just MEH. Kobalt is a tool I've picked up here and there because while they do tend to be a bit inconsistent, every now and again they really knock one out of the park. As for smaller power tools, I just tend to stick to Makita unless something really jumps out to warrant a battery change. The Sub compact line uses the same 18v LXT batteries as the regular LXT tools, performs closer to the full sized versions than they do against other compacts and are usually the same price range as Milwaukee's 12v while vastly outperforming them. Outside certain specialty tools the M12 line is just really really weak.

[@bent1208]

I have Makita for most things, real ergonomic. I've started buying more cheaper cordless tools for rarely used projects. You might find it useful to know they have battery adapters for most tools for $20 so I'm able to use Makita batteries with my Ryobi and even old 18v DeWalt tools. Saved me $$$. How do you like the subcompact line? I've been on the fence with investing in them.

[@OmegaGamingNetwork]

@@bent1208 I know about the battery adapters and I forget Everytime I'm looking to buy a new tool lol. I've been very much impressed with the sub compacts honestly. The smaller form factor and the much reduced weight is a real winner for me since they have plenty of power to cover 90% of the tasks I'm doing. Basically I only really pull out the bigger tools when absolutely necessary. I'm not terribly keen on the 2ah batteries they usually come with as it feels like they suffer in power with those. However since they are lighter the 5ah packs don't feel as unwieldy as the bigger tools and I can run far longer. I find myself reaching for my sub impact more than anything else. The recip saw definitely lacks a little power compared to it's full sized brother, but that doesn't make it weak. It fits into spaces the other just won't. Having used the Milwaukee hacksaw, it fits into basically the same spaces and has equal or more power though you really can't go wrong with either. I really feel Makita undersells them. They meet or beat the performance of basically every "cheaper" brand in the same category, are effectively the same price and give you the option to use any Makita tool if you need without having to buy into another battery line.

[@ShersGarage]

Milwaukee M12 Stubby is a great tool. Agreed on the right angle. It is slightly better than my HF Earthquake. I bought it cheap!

[@billfromnxtdoor5575]

I knew I made the right choice when I choose the kobolt tool line.

[@itsatoolthing6323]

I had the had the Milwaukee m12 90'. I was so unhappy with the performance that I returned it. It dose not seem to have any more power them my under powered air Ingersoll Rand hammer.

[@montgomeryfitzpatrick473]

Used a brushed 18v ryobi impact driver for 17 months before a bearing wore out and on 2.5 years on my 12v Milwaukee Fuel driver

[@johnny_5_d]

How come u only tested the M12 on only 3. The fourth setting is their “ nut buster” setting on the impacts. So wouldnt that be the max torque setting to use for testing

[@jaydog-vz6vt]

No the 4th setting lowers torque and makes it so you don't strip bolts

[@Migman2020]

its always easier to take the bolts off.. their figures show their nut busting torq aka bolt removing power.. not fastening torque.. for the kinds of jobs where you would need a right angle wrench.. you would be doing the bolts back up with a torque wrench anyways..

[@Migman2020]

@Alex Eidenier i think you missread what i said.. nut busting torq is aka break away torque lol its why its always higher than fastening torque

[@Migman2020]

@Alex Eidenier yes tool wise because thats where most of their power is.. yeah you didnt read the comment correctly

[@MrFixtheworld]

Alex, he means the impacts usually have more torque on reverse than going on. That's what he's talking about. Not the actual nut or bolt being easier.

[@ToolswithSoAlz]

Awesome video and always fair.

[@erichershberger3733]

I own a lot of milwaukee tools, and generally am pretty happy with them. That being said, my m12 right angle impact has been used three or four times and then put away because it's somewhat useless. Also not a fan of the m12 vacuum. That thing is a piece of junk.

[@timothypadilla1277]

I have the round canister M 18 vacuum that thing kicks a$$

[@DizzKidz]

You can sell it to me 😆

[@abecar17]

I did the same with mine. It has its uses but I had been led to think I'd use it more but it lacks power and is huge for my gas and small diesel applications. The one benefit I see over the kobalt is the battery. I already dont use my m12 cause its huge. Now add an even bigger battery and I'd never use it.

[@mediocreman2]

Same situation with me. But I don't have the M12 vacuum. The M18 stacking vacuum works well, but it's big.

[@robertn8038]

This test was very surprising i have the milwaukee in the 3/8 head. It does great. I use it every day.

[@ronyates7420]

These tests are good for figuring out the max torque an impact will make but what we also need to see is a set of bolts torqued to specific foot pounds to verify manufacture break away specs. It is always easier to break away than to tighten due to the nature of a fastener. Let’s see if the hold true to the numbers then, or if they under or over perform to what’s advertised.

[@deandean7472]

I actually have both Milwaukee M18,M12 and Kobalt. I use the Kobalt and M12. When I used the M18 I needed 4 chargers to keep up some days. With the Kobalt only 2. Both are brushless. I get more run time out of my Kobalt than my Milwaukee M18. The Kobalt drills has a cool feature that won't allow you to chip a drill bit. I've drilled holes up 3/4 of an inch stepping with my Kobalt. I can't remember the last time I used a corded drill. I have many other Kobalt tools and I'm happy with their performance.

[@captdramamine]

Great video. I bought the Milwaukee tool right before Kobalt released theirs. Kinda wishing I would have waited now.

[@dominicsapienza]

The Milwaukee is good if they had a m18 version pretty sure it would outrun that 24v only reason why it got beat was because a 12v difference n a big difference at that the m12 line is made to be small in fit in tight spots n all that

[@No_Transitory]

Man that xtr is definitely doing work!

[@klumsytone]

Nice. Been asking Shop Tool Reviews to do this very test. Thank you.

[@garrettgiuffre8505]

I could see my self needing this tool once in a while but can guarantee you reach for the electric rachet all the time. I have a first generation and I love it . the second gen didn't get the updates I personally found Worth it but I hope 5he next generation makes it a longer reach with a stronger and smaller package with a useable led lighting and some battery reinforcement to prevent damage when using as a wrench

[@michaeldaidone1904]

I also have the gen 1 ratchet. I bought the gen 2 and loved the power but I have small hands and didn't care for the extra diameter. Went back to the gen 1 and gave the new one to my stepson a big strapping lad.

[@anthonyzhang4918]

The Kobalt is very impressive! I'll have to wait for the next gen milwaukee, since I don't want to add yet another battery system.

[@davidpayne6541]

I purchase 12v tools. I use cheater cords with alligator clips for attaching to the automotive battery. In-line fuse protector keeps it safe.. works great, more power

[@ljprep6250]

OF COURSE THE BOXES LIE. Them's Searz Horsepower figures, pard. I haven't bought an angle impact yet (retired now) but I noticed that the Bosch 14.4v impactor was just as powerful as my Makita 18v and my new freebie, a Milwaukee 24v. Tests like these comparisons are extremely valuable to potential buyers, and we thank you for them, guys. Domini domini (a little blessing there) ;)

[@bmarcy86]

Getting ready to buy one of these kobalt impacts because of this video. If that isn't advertisement I don't know what is. These manufacturers should be groveling to you gents.

[@valuedhumanoid6574]

Those torque numbers are important, but quality of build and durability also factor in. I work in a foundry that's constantly being wrenched on, and we're talking the harshest environments you can find. We chew up cheap tools and spit them out on a daily basis. Harbour Freight stay away! We have an extensive 1" airline system throughout the building pushing out 145 psi, so pneumatic tools are the preferred. But we all have Milwaukee cordless for convenience and they seem to hold up the best. Now, our supply house is a Milwaukee dealer, so they push that over all else. I would be willing to give that Kobalt a shot to see how durable it is. For the price, I can buy two for the price of one Milwaukee.

[@juniorcruz469]

Cool. I shall wait for V2 on Milwaukee.

[@danmiezejeski7735]

I actually own and use a Makita right angle impact at work. It's a pretty old style tool with a brushed motor, and I'm sure it's not going to compete with the tools you tested today, but it does take a beating. I have put some serious miles on it in the last 5 years or so. XLT02Z is the model, it boasts a whopping 44 ft. Lbs.

[@FahimibnDawud]

44lbs?! Is it an impact, or just a right angle ratchet?

[@michaelcohen9363]

@@FahimibnDawud his comment says "Makita right angle impact"

[@cameronpalfy9145]

Wow. I did not expect that! Great review

[@540wildin4]

Love watching these videos knowing damn well I’d buy the Milwaukee anyway cuz that’s the brand I have batteries for

[@georgeferlazzo7936]

Hello again Torque Test Channel Thank you for another Great Video. That was amazing. Thank you again

[@ldwalker1000]

Thank you for testing the tools

[@jstpsgthru]

Recently purchased the Kobalt right angle 3/8 drive impact wrench. My Lowes had it on a buy more, get more promo. Couldn't turn it down. It fits nicely between my 1/4 and 1/2 impacts.

[@toyotatundra0455]

Thanks a millionxbillion. I bought the Kobalt for $99.00 during the Lowes's sale. I already had the battery and the charger. My only complain is that it's difficult to get in the engine area.