BYD Tang Electric | The GERMANS should be scared now

[@mohamadmawed6078]

Fantastic car. I have tried it in Trondheim, and it was amazing.

[@KrisRifa]

Truly an amazing car!

[@pragmatist165]

You must be on the take to say this. This was a fair and honest review and it was a review of a car that is.. poor. The Tang is not worthy, full stop.

[@HKChineseCanadian]

@@pragmatist165 Why are you saying this? Because BYD Tang is a Chinese car? I thought so. Keep your head buried in the sand while the Chinese EVs take the world by storm.

[@pragmatist165]

@@HKChineseCanadian I have commented on a poor car review. The West have not done a comprehensive review of the Tang.. just one serious example.. and there are others.. the Infotainment System is no good functionality not good, glare from screen no good pale lighting on screen.. yet they add a mechanical function to change the screen from portrait to landscape.. but they do nothing to attend to the Infotainment System. The reviewer was clearly honest .. the seats on the EA1 (not the car reviewed here but are very substandard plastic)... i could go on .. did you read hi s review .. it was not good by any measure. It will arise with other reviews if they are honest .. reality Is BYD stupid mantra us 'just get the cars out' . In Australia we get independent reviews to put the blowtorch to BYD ... virtually noone has here in Aus.. If it measures up I'll say so. It didn't at all..Acknowledge the poor review items yourself spell them out. The flaws aren't good.. name them then you have credibility

[@pragmatist165]

@@HKChineseCanadian I told you, the review made of it was lousy.. the West has got some top engineers say here in Australia to put the blowtorch to it to really evaluate the car. We need that. Until then, byd is the new boy on the block.. they make batteries.. they are new to cars . For example only, the Chinese MG are not good at handling roundabouts or windy roads.. lest not rush with the EAN or Yuan Plus till we put the blowtorch to them in comprehensive reviews. The West ( top car reviewers).really do undertake thorough reviews.. there are big questions marks over Infotainment systems, handling, noisy cabins , poor insulation and or design input to this, road noise . Thats what they have to pass .. the test for a newcomer like byd must be undertaken.. they are new

[@runedahl1477]

I have tested this car and there is a lot to like about it. Spacious, drives well, safer batteries, well equipped and a lot of car for the money. At least in Norway. What draws it a little bit down is noice from the tires. Would I buy one? Why not.

[@VikingAge]

I don't think lithium-battery cars are suitable for Norway, the temperature is too low

[@runedahl1477]

@@VikingAge Most cars that are sold in Norway these days are electric. Yes, the range is considerably reduced in the winter. The buyers know about this but still buy these cars because there have been no taxes on them until now. Considering that there only live 5 million people in Norway we have been one of the countries that have bought the biggest number of electric cars until now. A lot of new makers of these cars have started their sale in Norway before a lot of the bigger nations. Of Chinese made cars we can now buy BYD,Nio, Polestar, Peng and Hongqi. Other brands have also found their way here.

[@Kilgallon]

@@VikingAge Wow you are wong.

[@VikingAge]

@@runedahl1477 oh, I understand now MR. Rune. in fact i live in GuangZhou City China. At present, all bus taxis UBER(DIDI) are almost all lithium battery cars in our province, because the minimum temperature here is 6 degrees in winter, so there are a lot of lithium electric vehicles in our country, BYD and TESLA are the best sold electric vehicle brands. in Guangzhou city I live, 20% of our buses are hydrogen fuel cells and the others are lithium battery buses. There are almost no gas fuel bus and taxis in the southern provinces of China. my family have two cars, but they are both gas fuel cars, but we are more accustomed to taking the bus. I take to work every day by the hydrogen fuel bus. it makes a little noise when it is running, but it is much smaller than the gas fuel bus. The hydrogen fuel cell discharges water, so you can see there is a little water near the bus sation. I think hydrogen fuel cells are the best choice for the future of mankind

[@runedahl1477]

@@VikingAge Electric cars are very popular here in Norway due to taxation of them. Also a lot of Chinese brands are sold here. We now have Hongqi, Nio and a few others as well. The first battery change station for Nio outside of China was actually set up in Norway . Hongqi is a massive car filled with luxury but still fairly cheap compared similar combustion cars. From an environmental perspective electric cars are perfect for this country since almost all of our electricity is from hydroelectric power plants. The numbers of fast chargers has also grown considerably over the last years. There are also plans to build hydrogen factories but that will most likely be made out of natural gas from the North Sea. On a global scale electric cars is probably not a good idea yet. The electricity has to be made one way or the other. Few countries have as many waterfalls as we have and wind and solar energy is not reliable enough. However it is not all bad because a lot of countries and companies are trying to develop nuclear energy based on so called molten salt reactors. If they succeed,and I think they will the world will be provide with energy for centuries to come. One of the most interesting projects started in China last September. They have set up a test plant in the Gobi desert that will be able to supply 2000 households with electricity. Unlike traditional reactors this type of reactor does not require a lot of water for cooling. If successful they will start to mass produce this type of reactor with much higher capacity by 2030.

[@thegreatpaulsmith]

Due to more automation and advanced robotics than any other oems, the Chinese EVs will have better precision and build quality than people think

[@jonpetter8921]

Where come those automation and advanced robotics from ? the biggest of them from Germany not form China. So german cars still will be ahead in term of build quality... Which car is cheaper that s another history......

[@iamthemedici]

Finally someone knows what he is talking about. When the CEO of nio said his production line is better than the Porsche's even the Chinese laughed. But he was correct, as a machine tool distributor i have seen many factories and there is no doubt his production lines are very advanced

[@nsng1298]

China is the world's largest robotic market. Kuka, the German robotic company has been acquired by Midea, a large Chinese appliance manufacturer.

[@thegreatpaulsmith]

@@nsng1298 that's incredible. It helps solidify China as the future of auto manufacturering

[@jonpetter8921]

@@nsng1298 You can t beat them buy them. The brain and expertise is still in germany. Germany have many other robotic startup companies and have the best university when it comes to robotic engineering.

[@reinplat]

They should create a new logo.

[@pragmatist165]

With a lemon in it

[@PerBuch]

The most interesting point in the BYD are the batteri tech. I dont like batteri fire :-)

[@jonathans4832]

When there is a BYD Blade battery that does not catch fire, why do people buy any other car, until they catch up in terms of safety aspect.

[@PerBuch]

@@jonathans4832 Thats why i want Kris Rifa to cover it :-)

[@xiebaiqin]

@@jonathans4832 for the sake of brand and logo

[@user-hr6oc6yi6p]

BYD B.B is no.1.

[@neofaktion]

I just can't get over that logo on the steering wheel .. The blue just looks so strange

[@kevinrich5222]

How about Ford and Subaru？

[@neofaktion]

@@kevinrich5222 I think those aren't too pretty either, but the BYD logo is not very pretty combined with the blue. I guess it maybe is just the steering wheel itself, or the colour combined with the tan leather?

[@Tom-tr4em]

@@neofaktion their new logo is dope tho

[@fullyelectric]

Kris, Very nice car .. to me it looks like a Dodge in the rear .. and a Toyota in the front .. still pretty unique interior look, Plus looks better than any EV that does not have a driver instrument cluster .. lol

[@danielstefanovic2604]

Dont think the germans should be worried, BYD also said the price will go up after new year so it will problaly cost the same as an e-tron also i think the nio es8 is better.

[@cool-hh6yc]

Yes,it's way too expensive than in china.Even in china tang ev sales badly,becuase of two years old structure. Only 1/5 of Han ev‘s sales（which priced same）

[@cool-hh6yc]

But they have prepared a new model with a 108kwh battery and 700km NEDC Range.May launch in December

[@isuruthiwanka9448]

I invested on BYD..

[@danielchua1713]

I could only envying. I would love to get this car as my first EV. I would certainly prefer normal absorbers, instead of adjustable air suspension. Nightmare to replace after few years.

[@antoniopalmero4063]

Nice work kris 👍🇬🇧

[@baohongyang7529]

I buy Tang DMI ，I like it. Different experience,Very good.

[@erhuforever]

Great review! I think that brightness/glare issue you pointed out might be due to the fact the original plastic protective screen protection is still left on. That's what it appears to me in your video.

[@discoking7188]

I read someone mentioning that the brightness has to do with the headlight settings also, so it is dim if you only have it on auto, and not manually switching on the headlights during daytime.

[@pragmatist165]

Functionality and pale icons and what bs to say the sticky cover is on .. just read the review and point out the flaws he identified.. then you might have some credibility

[@aldrinmanyando4709]

Chinese are coming for your market share in EVS in Europe and globally. Sooner or later.. Chinese cars will play a dominant role in the EV market

[@yammybolo222]

Great review! Will you get your hands on a BYD Han anytime soon? Keen to see a side by side review vs Tesla Model 3 or Model S (think Han is closer to Model S size but lower price than Model 3)!

[@pragmatist165]

It was a poor review, by most measures, a very poor review. It's clear the Infotainment System is lousy.. screen glare and poor faded screen and as he said functionality is not good .its shite and unfit for purpose

[@cobaltblue2756]

@@pragmatist165 it sold over hundred thousand unit in China ,i think it's brilliant car...correction 50k unit

[@pragmatist165]

@@cobaltblue2756 acknowledge the shortfalls of the reviewer here, I did, you write them down here, after YOU read what the reviewer said. Then you’ll have credibility, otherwise you don’t

[@cobaltblue2756]

@@pragmatist165 I'm speaking fact it did sold 58k , at price around 50 dollar is not a cheap ,better buy model 3 but why buy BYD

[@troll6861]

The importer RSA has priced it 170,000 NOK (17,000 Euros) higher in Norway than in China, while Nio is priced lower in Norway than in China, and in addition RSA has announced higher prices next year. This will be a tough sale

[@discoking7188]

Obviously not, they have sold more than 1000 cars already. I think the price is very competitive although it is quite much more expensive than in China. I'll get mine next week. EDIT: I am not so sure the China prices presented reflects reality, at least for the Norway Spec version. Looking at BYD Cambodias Facebook page, the local price for a top spec model is not far off the price in Norway!

[@troll6861]

@@discoking7188 Looks like it was a difficult sale after all. Last autumn, the importer of BYD said that he would quit his job if he did not sell the 1,500 cars he had ordered during 2021, and that the price of Tang would increase on 1 January 2022. None of this has happened. So far this year (17.02.2022) they have only sold a total of 1216 cars since launch, and 47 of them are on sale as demo cars.

[@discoking7188]

I agree they were a little cocky in that they said that, however, I think the reason for not reaching their estimate is the fact that they (RSA) obviously suck at marketing this car. The car itself is truly excellent I must say. I am kind of skeptical if BYD made the right choice selecting RSA as the distributor. Time will show..

[@troll6861]

@@discoking7188 I totally agree with you, I think they are very good cars, but maybe a little high priced for many a slightly unknown brand. Congratulations on the purchase, keep rust away, you vill have a good car for many years, the batteries are indestructible.

[@larsradtke4097]

Not the Brembo package? I guess you didn't try the brake test. 100 to 0....

[@USUG0]

although I like an all tan interior, I can't stand a tan on gray/dark one! And among the large SUV, it has the most appealing look to me, including the front! :-P

[@ririenwiropranoto5908]

you are not paying europe car price why are you comparing?

[@sambale9527]

Good job

[@KrisRifa]

Thanks :)

[@leiyue1411]

The front face.will upgrade to new style which is more like to byd han

[@majornature7878]

Has this car a doggy or camping mode? I find this is very importend in cold winter or very hot summer. Greetings from Germany.

[@jamaicasysbm2580]

We need it in Jamaica 🇯🇲 now

[@ProCelestialEmpire]

I guess in a tropical country the e-car can work better because of temperature, and u can utilize solar power to charge cars.

[@donmccomb]

I'm very excited to see more affordable vehicles become available. Has it been put through safety testing yet?

[@DanielAntonio000]

I think that's is important and you not be disappointed, good brake system is loaded on this model and others security systems.

[@user-hr6oc6yi6p]

Tang is tank in chia ..so.you.know..

[@AlvisePeltreraLeoneProductions]

Å, jeg forstår... you're talking about BBS, those rims were unseen in EU before 😄

[@e-redj]

This car is being on sale in China for some months, so I thought all those usability nags, that can be corrected by a software update, should already be a thing of the past. I’m not seeing that they will change much on the customer cars, and less if those cars are already on the way to Norway. And the lack of brightness of the displays. Well, you can’t change everything with software. Displays with low brightness are much cheaper than displays with high brightness, and if you want to go the cheaper way then you have to add something to prevent glare. My conclusion, this is a big car for not that much money, but I have some doubt that it will keep the value over time, but time will tell.🤷‍♂️

[@Arag0n]

Chinese consumers may not care about same things, or it might be the English version only issue, as china side all google things don't work.

[@pragmatist165]

It was a honest review, a poor car made for locals. Westerners will totally reject, just to give one example, an infotainment system that is . no damn good

[@definitelysimple8991]

@@pragmatist165 💩

[@definitelysimple8991]

@@pragmatist165 Dude, your brain is $o shallow, compete by not badmouthing other products. every persons comment there is always your comment.

[@larsrosing5033]

Very exciting news from BYD! How is the longevity on those plate batteries, i.ex over 5 and 10 years?

[@danielchua1713]

BYD claim 1.2 millions KM battery expectancy. Hope it lives up the claim.

[@bilgyno1]

LFP batteries have more cycle life than NCM, and can also safely charge between 0-100% without damaging the battery. 2000 cycles x 300-350 km real world range = 600.000 - 700.000 km with probably 80% capacity left

[@tymanot]

Thanks for the Video Kris. Impressive huge EV. Way too big for our German roads I think...

[@pragmatist165]

Rubbish, it was an honest review exposing BYDs underbelly.. battery might be ok, but lots of other sub standard issues

[@ropi4524]

Hi Chris, good video and interesting car. Are there any hints when it is available in the Rest of Europe? E.g. Germany? Thanks a lot for your work.

[@ELCEV]

$70,000.00 USD is not to amazing for a BYD made in China. $49,000.00 would by amazing!

[@cronuscoltdslavshikov9823]

Actually this BYD TANG model 4wd full electric cost 50000 USD with all life warranty in China. Is there he cost 70 000 USD in Norway!?

[@javierlezama1094]

⚡BYD Tang fantastic car 💪🏼

[@cai567890]

Can you use your language to manipulate the robot to open the skylight？

[@Freddy680]

Hello. Have you ever tested a BMW ix3, or do you not find it interesting or good enough?

[@don.timeless4993]

Please can you test the i-4WD version for off road?

[@don.timeless4993]

& about the screen being Android, please BYD don't change that. Just adding Google account will sync everything & it'll rest the personal smartphone

[@ianburnett4605]

This car comes in at just under half that price in China so there is a 100% mark up on the price exiting China.

[@pragmatist165]

There is a lot if hype coming out of Norway. Lies and exaggeration is rife .. so guess what, I no longer read or listen to the liars

[@luisdominguesforprogramaca3221]

Kris, did you forget the nio es8?

[@nicoev4851]

Good car but is not considered premium in China, doesn’t have a premium price tags either… they price in Norway is a lot higher than China even though Norway has no VAT on EV and no import duty, I guess the distributor is making a lot of money… Not a fair deal compared to NIO for example which is a real premium car. Also this is quite an old car, has been on the roads in China since many years.

[@ilpohaarala8686]

Interior design is a bit confusing. Too many different colors and materials mixed together. Like the steering wheel has two different colors of leaher mixed with black glossy plastic and metallic parts. That may be a luxury style in some parts of the world but not so much in Europe.

[@jerryshaw9446]

Which country was this video taking?

[@vexelworrior]

Heating the battery

[@cronuscoltdslavshikov9823]

Hello there, I'm interested to buy this car BYD dinasty Tang full electric version in Europe. As I know in Europe only Norway has license to selling the BYD company car's with the same all life warranty like in China. My question is :How much is cost the car at Europe - Norway. In China price of new 4wd full electric model is 50000 USD.

[@hissingsidll750]

Want a car that goes up like a Roman candle or air bags that don`t deploy ?............THEN BUY A BYD HAN.

[@QuietJugung]

Screen brightness adjustment?

[@KrisRifa]

Adjusted to full brightness

[@Fireblade-df2wj]

Awesome car

[@Fireblade-df2wj]

They should remove the "build your dreams" on the back

[@Lotus.F]

4.6 seconds to 60 mph for such a large car and you say it's not sporty ???

[@malekmalek9064]

❤️

[@axli13]

Why racist remarks such "GERMAN SHOULD BE SCARE". As a consumer, i am not scare at all but are much delighted that i am getting a better product from BYD.

[@KrisRifa]

This has to be the dumbest comment of the year 🙈🙈🤣🤣 Geeez

[@MustafaKhan-wf7yg]

You can´t say that the suspension is better then the Volvo XC 90, you have to test the suspension in all scenarios. The BYD suspension is too soft, try to push the car in corners and you will see that XC 90 is much better then BYD.

[@KrisRifa]

Yeah, I’ve driven close to a 150 000km in XC90’s, so I’m a pretty good judge at that 😊 How many kms have you driven in the XC90 and Tang?

[@MustafaKhan-wf7yg]

Lets say hypotethically In 150k you have done high speed corners, Risk maneuvering the car in atleast 65km + with one driver and full load. Have you tested BYD in full load and then done the same test? For me it seems like you only tested road bumps and based on that it is a better suspension then XC90. Well suspension has many factors that can be better in air suspension vs regular spring suspension. Just my opinion. Great Videos👌🏽

[@xiebaiqin]

@@MustafaKhan-wf7yg BYD Tang passed moose test at 71 kmph, Han passed moose test at 81 kmph.

[@Foxor83]

I saw it next to a Mercedes EQC today and it absolutely dwarfed it.

[@zhangjin7179]

it dwarfed it? what does it mean?

[@Trades46]

The Germans still have a higher quality standard, but the company that should be running scared...is Tesla.

[@AI_HQ]

Anyone who's owned a German car would know German quality isn't that good.

[@Whatever_dude]

@@AI_HQ way better than Tesla junk

[@jatwangismyname900]

@@Whatever_dude Tesla is not junk

[@Whatever_dude]

@@jatwangismyname900 yes it is, total and utter junk

[@jatwangismyname900]

@@Whatever_dude I would like you to elaborate on its junkness. M waiting.

[@foolcellsorryfuelcellmirag4835]

Kris for the majority of people 60k is a lot of money. Middle classes won't drive the ev revolution it's cars between 20 to 30k that will appeal to the majority of people who want to move from their ice to a EV. This is where Xpeng and Byd come in. European manufacturers need to get their fingers out their,,,. Because China cars are coming and have the best tech longer range and way cheaper than any other cars out there. Legacy automakers are still reliant on there ice cars and if you want a EV from Ford to hyundai you are waiting 6 to 9 months. Chip shortage is an excuse but they are way behind on battery supply. Look at byd massive company not just cars buses trucks etc. Even Toyota will be using their blade battery which is a industry leader. BYD build everything in their car battery motor seats etc. Only tesla are a comparison. Byd have plans within the next 2 years to have 500 mile EVs that will be affordable and have the latest tech with long term warranty. . Its looking good for consumers but a lot of European car manufactures will need government support just to survive.

[@gj1234567899999]

300km of real world range. I don’t know if I like that. 😑 seems pretty low.

[@pragmatist165]

This is a shite car from many viewpoints .. the reviewer was honest .. but BYD mantra is ‘ get the cars out ‘

[@julianchung9215]

@@pragmatist165 it will take some time for the company to develop a better car however the speed to development BYD have is pretty fast.

[@pragmatist165]

@@julianchung9215 this may be true .. people say here on this thread that the review was great .. it was not, emphatically not.. there is the clould over byd re quality.. many aspects.. of the mantra is ' get the cars out" and flaws are there like this.. Infotainment System not good functionality..glare, faint icons, just to give one example, then westerners will reject them. And the digital world of people will mean the word will get around byd will be washed up..or severely hurt

[@julianchung9215]

@@pragmatist165 you are correct as of the moment, they will learn and improve. However there are purists like yourself who prefer to buy from the old reliable manufacturers the likes of Mercedes etc which I can totally understand. China is still learning and will adapt in a very fast pace. You have to remember they have the biggest ev market in the world, the sheer no of cars they sell locally gives them an edge to produce more data to develop their Ev technology, probably take them several more years to get it right. Also they also need to improve the naming and badge, I personally think it's not catchy..

[@jacqueshorv]

FSD suspension 😉

[@mututyo8418]

I have a tang dmi

[@qilu2004]

germans should be scared of ev revolution..at the moment only vw is barely keep up with tide.

[@MrStian78]

I don’t think the germans should be scared. Tesla however….

[@Lucaat]

The display is so dimm

[@xiantong12315]

CDC + mechanical spring

[@hissingsidll750]

Want a car that goes up like a Roman candle or air bags that don`t deploy ?............THEN BUY A BYD HAN.

[@curioussand1339]

If and if and if

[@importantlookingpirate]

Another SUV....😴

[@pragmatist165]

The Tang is absolute rubbish. The reviewer was honest, but diplomatic.

[@xondeez757]

They will never compete with German cars unless they change that awful logos. Honestly it’s the only thing that keeps me from buying it

[@MaticTheProto]

Apparently it doesn’t drive well. So not very German

[@mikaelskoglund373]

Looks pretty ok. But thirsty and slow charging. Nothing for those who often drive longer distances, of course.

[@xiebaiqin]

It charge up faster than model3.

[@pragmatist165]

This Tang is rubbish, the reviewer was honest.. and… right

[@pragmatist165]

It doesn’t look good at all

[@MrGyulaBudai]

Model Y go home !

[@transeuropa5831]

Not only the glare on the screen, but the glare om the shiny frame around it is really bad. Terrible choice of materials.

[@pragmatist165]

Indeed , this is a portent of the future

[@entropy5431]

So bad for the environment. Cars like this make a mockery of the whole green agenda.

[@KrisRifa]

How so?

[@entropy5431]

@@KrisRifa It weighs about 3000kg and most will spend their time transporting one person. Inefficient in that miles per kWh is low and most of that electricity will come from burning fossil fuels.

[@KrisRifa]

@@entropy5431 good point, but for many people who need seven seats this is the their only electric alternative and sure as hell beats the alternative 👌

[@entropy5431]

@@KrisRifa I'm not saying it's a bad car, your a better judge having actually driven one. I just think people will buy it thinking it is green and it isn't.

[@sidbiciuz2603]

Good fat car but when the car breaks who will repair it? I don't know, for all this money I would turn to producers who have a widespread care network, surely with the years even the Chinese will build their network but for the moment, no thanks. (For this money)

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Scared of crashworthyness or...?

[@haiting1594]

Actually the BYD SUV is famous in China for their solid build and has the nickname “Highway Tank”

[@abraxastulammo9940]

@@haiting1594 Premium Nio ES8 only got 82 % passenger safety rating vs 93 % e-tron Q4 (both 5 stars though) in Euro ncap.

[@teofilol2666]

@@abraxastulammo9940 Apparently you misled people by referring to only one category out of the total four categories. Thanks to you though I just found out that Nio ES8 actually have a total score of 330 against E-tron's 328, nice try though. Still very impressive for E-tron to have very high score for passengers in the car.

[@etherspace]

​@@abraxastulammo9940 shame on you

[@pragmatist165]

Oh dear, 60k for this BYD Tang is big big dollars. In Australia, that’s about $ 80 k, probably more …like to know the kerb weight, and handling on windy roads. Have grave doubts. Oh and road noise is a show shopper .. BYD has a long way to go .. so it’s healthy to get honest feedback .. This guy is very very trustworthy.. thank you.. So, let’s get started. The design is old hat.. a boring look, very. My general conclusion is that BYD are third rate in fit out .. plasticy and cheap.. they’ll need to get that fixed .. glare and lack of brightness on infotainment system is a serious show stopper .. he also says there is limited functionality . This is serious stuff. VW stuffed it’s infotainment system on ID 4, BYD are juniors in everything but batteries, so prepare for .. inferiority. The only mantra at BYD is ‘get the cars out’, senior executives there have only one KPI, until the world falls apart with its lousy quality. Just imagine what a meal they are going to make of all this sub standard quality. Despite all the hype, they’re going to make a lot of own goals. BYD need to get serious about presenting a complete car, they need to be told now to invest in quality.. and if they don’t, believe me, we will label them rightly as … lemons, just like what happened to Hyundai .. with the Excel.. it was rubbish. In this digital age, a poor review, particularly when the lousy stuff isn’t fixed, will bury them. As the review continues, the conclusion is that this BYD is cheap and nasty .. the screen looks lousy. I have banged on before about my grave doubts that the BYD infotainment doing a great job. It is p week .. omg .. You know something, all BYDs that will released next year.. EA1 and YUAN plus, for example,will be well below the quality what you get with, say, in most US cars . The BYD strategy to pump out cars with shite systems .. and not care .. will bite them and Buffet badly. Westerners will reject them, and BYD will fail quickly if it doesn’t embrace .. quality ..it’s looking poor for them. I say to BYD, send these shite cars to the non discerning Chinese public.. they just want a car that goes from a to b, truly. Westerners don’t want basic shite though, they don’t.

[@phoarey]

Closer to AUD100,000 ridiculous

[@pragmatist165]

@@phoarey I'm getting sick of Sam Evans promoting his vested interest in BYD. He is trashing authenticity when it is clear that in the West in particular byd has not had the blow torch put to their cars. Evans never ever reads out to us the poor reviews, he only responds to good stuff and to people who agree with him. The Pang review recently would put you off .. completely .. significant issues with a third rate Infotainment System.. both its hardware and software... its gunna being a mass produced lemon .. to meet the mission statement of get" the cars out," Someone challenged my statement that Pang had a poor review, by asserting that there atecgoid reviews.. Thats complete rubbish ... no one with half a brain would ignore the poor review I found... noone .. unless they just wanted a car and didn't care that it was lousy .. these people exist

[@Fireblade-df2wj]

@@pragmatist165 I think you're just a China hater. Just like the review you referring to. You made about 50 hate comments on BYD just on this video. Sales in China don't lie my boy. BYD is crushing everyone in China right now. They don't just want a car that drives from a to b. Premium brands like Mercedes are very popular in China. They make like 40% of their whole revenue over there. You're funny, just a little hater

[@pragmatist165]

@@Fireblade-df2wj I'm certainly a hater of a country that rapes the oceans of the world without compunction. Forget Taiwan let's have a non military issue to expose China for taking fish the lot .. all they can get in the waters of other sovereign nations.. And yes tell them to stop it or face military action. We have had enough. They will ignore requests unless they have a real threat

[@pragmatist165]

@@Fireblade-df2wj plastics and leather and Infotainment System have very hard earned r&d and IP .. the Chinese have no history with this ... in Australia you'll see the plastics melt, the leather flake, the components fail.. we have dry very very hot summers.. and aside from that the Infotainment is piss week in quality and every other respect.. Let's wait and see

[@abraxastulammo9940]

I'd rather buy an e-tron GT than a chinese SUV. 😜

[@keith6371]

then you will be happy to know etron is mostly made from chinese parts.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

@@keith6371 How do you know? 😱

[@dr.andersonsghost4315]

@@abraxastulammo9940 E-tron's battery is from the Chinese (CATL), as are battery control software, various controllers, and so on and son. By component value, it is mostly a Chinese car. The Germans stamped the body, the suspension, and other metal bits. The Germans had to rely on the Chinese because they have fallen very far behind in electric cars, while the Chinese now own the entire ecosystem for electric cars. There might still be time for the Germans to mount a defense, but they've already gotten to a late start.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

@@dr.andersonsghost4315 Everyone knows it has LG, which is not chinese but korean. This is very funny.

[@teofilol2666]

@@abraxastulammo9940 Yeah, you should buy an E-tron because it has denial mode.

[@lutzs.1412]

Never gonna buy a Chinese car! When it's about the few things that are produced in Europe (not like consumer goods, smartphones, notebooks..), I stick to "Made in Europe" as long as possible. Sorry, BYD - go sell your products in Asia or the US!