BZ-58-2 - Tank Review - World of Tanks

[@realbadcorps]

The BZ 58 2 and the 50TP have the exact same turret. Not just from an armour and shape stance, but the actual turret. The 50TP sports a serial number on the back just to the right of the ammo loading door 607-43 and the BZ 58 2 has the exact same number.

[@jaspergood2091]

Looks like a 50TP that got held back a year

[@n3b266]

Typical Chinese… they’ve copied the other tech trees but always worse

[@g.d.graham2446]

Exactly

[@NCA2212]

Glad I'm not the only one

[@MrRez808]

Lol

[@rustybottoms8859]

Yes but Unfortunately still in the same class.

[@skorpion7132]

"THe tank has wings, which seem to have no purpose other than maybe mount the turret". Yes, that is how the mounting of a turret works. The turret ring is partically the same size as the turret. You can see that same bulb very pronounced on the AE Phase 1.

[@aletir6111]

I'll just wait for the weird german strv, looks more interesting to play for sure. I feel like 50Tp is way better than this tank

[@UAuaUAuaUA]

Plenty of gamers wait for that German Strv 😉

[@themomentchannel3498]

its especially better for casual and new players, the BZ-58-2 seems like one of those tanks that only pro's want so they can 3 mark another tank

[@g.d.graham2446]

It is

[@savagehungarian5467]

@@themomentchannel3498 Yea this thing is a tier 7 hull with a tier 9 gun and turret so it is far from new player friendly, this is definitely a collector's tank. Playing it for the hell of it or for 3 marking as you said.

[@bemusedpanda8875]

Looks like a 50TP with a slightly different hull

[@antalpoti]

Because it is a 50TP turret with a BZ 58 hull...

[@g.d.graham2446]

50TP turret and gun with a BZ-58 hull

[@robinhood1488]

I started out struggling with this tank, but as the crew's first skill (Brother's in arms) got up to around 80%, things started to improve, and it got more enjoyable to play.

[@Panzergraf]

Looks nice enough to me. Not every tank needs a weird gimmick.

[@_MrBread]

The one thing i have an issue with this tank is just like what you said, it’s a generic heavy, it doesn’t have a booster, it doesn’t have bigger alpha, heck it’s not even a multinational tank like the rudy so you can train crews on either nations. I don’t see the justification of pricing 24 tokens for it, at best it should only be 15 or 18.

[@g.d.graham2446]

If it had boosters, it would be worth it

[@theBhavMan]

its only priced so high becuase its the first year its in the bp, they tend to drop priced for subsequent seasons

[@_MrBread]

I don’t remember the price for the BP tanks dropping after the events of the kunze. But for a tank that doesn’t have any special features the starting price should atleast be lower than what they’re originally asking for even if the price drops every season.

[@baohungle5410]

Again Vents vs. V.Stab. Why would there even be this question in the first place? Nobody realizes that V.Stab allows you to accurately take your shots so much faster which indirectly make your reload faster? I only use Vents + Smooth Drive directive instead of V.Stab on tanks that have =

[@danielfeinour9611]

At first glance, I was super excited for this tank. Then, back when QB was talking about this season of Battle Pass and mentioned that it didn't have rockets... I was immediately disinterested. If it had rockets, I'd probably pick it up, because then it would be novel and yet decently balanced. As he stated here, it just feels like a clone, but not a very interesting clone. I'll wait for the German TD next pass. That looks like it could be something more to look forward to.

[@jager56]

Я предлагаю супер битву, Ру дэб Джов, против еу аута близнеца джова, эта битва будет легендарной

[@heeheeheehaaaaaw7199]

Sweatshop 50tp

[@Ancientscrull]

i like this tank but i would love the 50tp more

[@g.d.graham2446]

Same

[@rom7647]

If you're going to use crews that are impossible to have (i.e. every skill in the game), plus premium food, I see no reason not to use bond equipment too...

[@nowhere683]

At least they could have added the rocket mechanic on this tank. It would not make the tank OP in any means but would have made it more exciting and special.

[@Rift_Hawkman]

Whats strange is that the hull on this tank is the actual hull to the BZ-75. or at least the most alike to it. they remodeled the hull to give it rockets(made it completely up). I forget what the actual tanks name is but the real tank is this hull the the BZ-75 turret. Correction I found the correct one and its the WZ-1224, it was allegedly supposed to be China's Leo 2 which is why the turret looks a lot like a Leo 2 turret.

[@tenkowal]

I don't think it' a bad thing that it's "normal". Pushing for novelty ends up with abominations like wheeled vehicles. You like the playstyle of 50TP you buy it, you don't like - you don't buy. Simple.

[@ivanbaricevic7856]

clone wars had started years ago in WOT... this one just goes on...

[@wilhelmhetrick8948]

So the context as to why WG might have not gave it rocket boosters. The rocket boosters were a thing the Chinese actually tested on tanks, though it was never on any BZ series tank as the BZ series was never produced at all nor had any plans to attach rocket boosters to them. They just kind of used the BZ series tanks as an excuse to put the rocket boosters in the game. The BZ series was designed to counter American heavy designs.

[@faraoter7146]

Привет, квакубабу, как жизнь без экипажа 2.0?

[@timothyds7453]

RE: WoT just lost a since 2011 paying customer - accidently deleted crew members not replaced Think twice about spending money on this game. Throughout the years I've contacted support less than 5 times. The other day however I had to and ... I just got word back from "customer support": restoring or replacing 2 accidently deleted zero perk brothers in arms crew members is apparently something they don't do. --- For a game where you pay the full price of an A+ game for just a single vehicle ... customer support should be 100%. I've spend >2000 euro over the years; that ends today.

[@o0BaCaRDi0o]

The awnsers you sometimes get of support are hilarious. I played world of warcraft aswell , they help you immidietly and give you extra if it was their faulth. You will never see this from wargaming. All they send are the same stupidity ignoring the message.

[@animalyze7120]

I hope WG will stop adding more TD's as the TD overload from the past 3 years of nothing but TD's is really killing the MM. Every match you have 6 or so hiding at the rear red line complaining there's no spotting when everyone is in a TD lol.

[@warriorofice33]

all WG care about is milking the player base

[@drmojr9872]

You could unironically load HE for that lower plate lmao

[@GrandTanker374]

What's the point in this tank. Can't you just play the 50tp for only xp and silver

[@g.d.graham2446]

Indeed

[@MiHa0204k]

Спасибо за отмену экипажа 2.0

[@СаняСухарик-ь7х]

Полное квакубабу

[@benforbes5974]

23 seconds ago? Damm... early bird gets the worm

[@eckavolo]

Lmao i love how unfitting that analogy is on yt Nothing against it tho it’s just funny :p

[@moltensh4dow506]

it’s litterally just the tier 7 rocket hull without the rockets with the 50TP turret, WG just reusing vehicles and hoping no one notices, lucky for them, no one seems to be noticing/caring

[@omarkhalid7135]

Phase 1 will smash this thing into the ground every single time

[@CasimirDarksinger]

Like most of the reward tanks from BP, I am going to wait with picking it up till once it costs 9 tokens.

[@DisgruntledDoomer]

So, see you in 2028, maybe? The token costs don't steadily decrease, it doesn't work that way. (Or hasn't in the past.)

[@Azuzu_Komagome]

I honestly prefer the wz 114, tank in my opinion is better than the bz 58

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

A clone is fine, it’s not overpowered thankfully. It’s interesting to see how much wargaming requires gimmicks for marketing new premium tanks from simply watching tank reviews

[@michaelmichael8147]

QB -- Got this tank after your recommendation. I like it a lot. Thanks.

[@MrRez808]

Looks ok. More of a tank collector tank rather than a must have. Also the 114 made me lose the will to live…

[@greggo34]

Great video information and I will not get it. Going to get Cobra after all. Been watching videos on it. Time to try it out. BZ 58 is too plain.

[@nomar5spaulding]

Stupid question: Where does the WZ-114 come from?

[@g.d.graham2446]

I believe it was a marathon tank as the 2nd t9 prem tank

[@Damien_N]

2nd Tier 9 premium tank, released during Chinese New Year 2022. It hasn’t come up on sale very much in the last year. It’s got decent damage, terrible gun handling and tier 10 level hit points

[@zogl4326]

оооооо это тот самый квакубабу? а он реально похож на джова

[@superdad933]

Nice play...I like it when you're using standard equipment but, you seemed always rely on gold ammo the reason you always hitting hard?

[@TheIndigoEclipse]

No rockets? pass.

[@g.d.graham2446]

If it did, I'd consider getting it

[@nephalos666]

Looks like a 50TP with a lower plate the size of Alaska.

[@hypshyps7427]

very useful guide at shooting gold, really good one

[@JJBasco]

Quickybaby when are you gonna review the wz-111 model 6?

[@lofi_517]

have a great day qb!

[@acetanker9155]

It has the hull of BZ 58 tier 7 tech tree tank and the turret and the gun from 50TP with lower alpha damage but the same penetration values for all shell types

[@g.d.graham2446]

Exactly

[@huibhiibvu]

IS-7 have the gun too

[@edwintil5741]

All those new tanks have so much alpha damn

[@mr_babadook_0181]

wz 114 i just a meme at this point

[@Korben_team907]

Кваку бабу ку, спасибо за гайд

[@Lacutis01]

To be honest i have told myself I am not going to do any battle passes going forward after the Terminator 2 themed one and the Warhammer one from 2022. The FOMO was real and just as a whole made the game less enjoyable for me, getting stressed out not winning matches to get those points. To the point I have taken a break and maybe play once a week now, if that.

[@hallak65]

U DOESN'T NEED TO RESET crew. 1.20.1 patch change BIA, so it is work from 1%

[@MG-qq9ts]

27:07 - and hopefully more reward tanks

[@syahareensharani6869]

So basically is a 50TP but weaker ...

[@g.d.graham2446]

Exactly

[@kevinrussak889]

keep in mind, dont do anything in the kitchen as you may mess up ur hand

[@tolgahekim6233]

pls we are also looking forward to see kpz 3 review of yours

[@gofast8878]

Nice round on berlin QB

[@hebrewhammer4086]

Still unsure if I should get this tank or the new german TD, this tank looks worse/not as fun as the 50tp, and the new german td is kinda just weird and probably wont be that fun like the kunze panzer. also can someone explain to me what the point in resetting your crew is when you get perks? something ive never understood.

[@g.d.graham2446]

The crew reset with perks is when you can reset and select a perk like BIA at 100%, because perks only work when they're at 100% (so grinding at perk at 20% or 80% doesn't give you anything, unlike skills like Camo and Repairs) Hope this is a sufficient explanation

[@hebrewhammer4086]

@@g.d.graham2446 ohhh I gotchu, thanks.

[@hebrewhammer4086]

@@g.d.graham2446 also that means when all perks start working at one percent next update there will be no point in resetting right?

[@blackshih2437]

Корбен Тим-Сила!!!

[@Alexan_Dro]

Аве Корбидиусу

[@MrCheeseball90]

if im a casual player who just this season decided to try out the battle pass or whatever, should i get this or the German reward tank he mentioned towards the end? Like i said i’m a very casual player.

[@phipschi4255]

None. Is the AE Phase I still available in the shop?

[@g.d.graham2446]

Probably either the AE, Obj 777, or the Char

[@MrCheeseball90]

@@g.d.graham2446 how do u get them? are they simply available at a discount or can u use the points from the season pass ? I rlly need to read up on the season pass

[@g.d.graham2446]

​@@MrCheeseball90 Yes, completing the Battle Pass gives you tokens at certain points, even without purchasing the Improved version. Except for the Cobra, the others I mentioned should cost only 9 tokens

[@MrCheeseball90]

@@g.d.graham2446 awesome bro thank u

[@stevejohnson6248]

Skipping this one, just like the French heavy last year.

[@g.d.graham2446]

I probably will too

[@jessesexotics3713]

Have the 50tp and the 114 can def attest they are both just better. 50tp mostly bc you don’t have to buy the tank 🤣 and if you gonna the 114 was a better choice but idk if they gonna ever sell it again.

[@itmayki77]

thanks for destroying the 1.20.1 update dude. i was looking forward to free bond swapping...

[@afc9447]

Iam not playing wot for years why im keeping watching qb vids 😂

[@ledyanoy6391]

Чё с лицом, квакубабу? ☠️☠️☠️

[@citylumberjack9169]

So its comparable really to the Lorraine 50T. Great mobility and gun, shite hull. I'll get one, but not until the start of season 3 (after I buy the KPz7 at the start of season 2). Then I guess I'll buy a Kunze, even though I don't care for it much (being the last remaining reward tank I don't own) - they don't usually update the reward tanks mid-year.

[@Beer_Wolf]

I'll save for the new German TD.

[@Meldonator]

hard pass on this one, really little interest. BZ176 is a good trainer for our crew and, IMHO, much more fun.

[@g.d.graham2446]

Definitely

[@MrBkatt]

I've got absolutely no interest in this tank. It's so generic sadly. I'll be Holding out for the German Strv. With that said, thank you QB for the info on this one. No matter the tank or topic, information is always appreciated 👍🙂

[@brunnerwarsavage4242]

This tank is a break through tank? wow

[@skorpion7132]

Well, it first needs to breakthrough something so it can push a boulder in front of that moonsized LFP.

[@davidgallimore9656]

is that 24 tokens for free to play players? or 24 tokens if you buy the upgrades battle pass?

[@DisgruntledDoomer]

If you complete every battlepass this year (there should be 3 of them?) you can save up enough tokens for it, even as a free-to-play player.

[@brycesakal3717]

People better just call this tank “The Chinese 50TP” cause that’s what it is. Also, I loved the 50TP it is a monster

[@skorpion7132]

"The weaker chinese 50TP" FTFY.

[@theBhavMan]

the 50TP is such a beast, and id love to have It in my garage again, so ill def be picking this one up just to have a 50TP esque vehicle in my garage again. Plus it has better gun handling and speed? sign me up

[@g.d.graham2446]

I love it too

[@Taooflu]

How much copy and paste did they give us?

[@Kreker322]

Квакубабу на протяжении 27 минут пытается продать помойный бесполезный кусок

[@illesizs]

Are any of these reward tanks worth it?

[@cirrus2761]

yeah AE char and cobra are all pretty good and fun too

[@illesizs]

@@cirrus2761 Cool, then I will probably try those instead of the BZ

[@viscounttudon68]

AE is fantastic, Char is fantastic, Cobra is funny

[@shalakabooyaka1480]

the k91 pt is really fun to play, I got char futur and k91pt and equip this first go round, and am glad I did

[@przemeklewandowski7476]

@@shalakabooyaka1480 Don't make the same mistake that I did and do not buy k-91-pt. It's total trash - td without a turret, no gun depression, with paper hull, low alpha and gun that misses every shot. Only good sides are rather strong upper structure and decent speed. I believe even obj. 777 is better than this crap.

[@sunbear1310]

Today I learned I'm trash at the game because I don't like the 50tp - who knew.

[@Giovani992]

Going to skip this like the Kunze Mr. QB

[@g.d.graham2446]

Same

[@rildain76]

So mirroring real life, the Chi-Com unit is a cheap knock-off of somebody else’s design? That’s kinda funny. 😉

[@01Zipang]

This just makes me realize how much I hate the WZ-114.

[@fotorescent]

hey quickybaby, you usually put your videos when the tanks are out.... why cant we play it?

[@DotDotDotDashDashDashDotDotDot]

I prefer my real 50TP

[@imma5761]

Still trash tank. No hull no turret. 60 tp way better even tier for tier

[@Highest-Ground]

Bro just said the 50tp has no turret or hull 💀

[@imma5761]

@@Highest-Ground trash lower plate, cant overangle, cant sidescrape, armor not sloped, hulldown you have 2 weakspots tgat are very easy to hit. Only 46% noobs struggle to deal with 50tp

[@przemeklewandowski7476]

@@imma5761 60tp's gun is pure trash - only good thing about it is alpha, with 50tp you can at least land some shots. Tbh I prefer tier 9 over 10.

[@Highest-Ground]

​@@imma5761 "Trash lower plate" "Cupola weakpoints" You're literally just angry it isn't a hulldown turret meta tank, it has decent alpha and alright handling, trolly hull armor and a decent turret with some weakpoints. It is a BALANCED heavy, not the best in the meta, but I don't think it is horrifically bad.

[@محمدسعد-ك6ت]

dont try to make beleive this isn't the 50tp

[@DryHeart23]

I‘m very underwhelmed.

[@dc_capone]

так вот он какой кваку бабу)

[@nozzo066]

ох уж эта квакубаба

[@marcbjorg4823]

It's the best Chinese tank I ever had. Get it!

[@karpsimas]

ayy good day!

[@GrandTanker374]

Indeed it is friend

[@reddevil4593]

Привет квакубабу спасибо что ты есть

[@CaptainMannyUK]

@quickybaby Great review thanks. I think I will hang on for the German UDES, hope its not a cat fish! Do you think it might be worth a little vid mentioning the increase in 'in-game' in chat phishing that has reared its head again, trying to get users to login to a fake WG website which fakes you logging into WG, thus giving away your credentials. I have had this in game twice, both reported to WG. The URL used is slightly different from the official WG website and I suspect it will catch someone out. Not me. The in game message said that I had been in a WG replay and had won 3000 gold (just like the player who reports this to you) and then sends you a link to reclaim the gold. This is where the dodgy URL appears.

[@DefinitelyNotAnAddict]

Tried this game again after a year. So far 4 games and I only got hit with 4 standard rounds I'd rather play war thunder

[@Lukvader9]

What a silly tank and the tank designers in Wargaming should be fired because of copying an existing tanks in game as a new one. Let`s make a new tank,OK how he should look like? I don`t know, lets toss a coin.

[@brealistic3542]

No Rockets ? 😖

[@sigmaliege]

квакубабу 💀💀💀

[@cocowwwww7381]

Wg need to buff the Wz114 it's trash ...

[@MidnaTheTwillightPrincess]

they literally just copy paste the turret XD cmon wheres is the motivation designers XD

[@oleg163]

Русские Корбеновцы, когда хейтить его начнем?

[@NeVV_AGe]

Ждем сигнала))

[@hedzik3614]

хочу увидеть дуэт корбена и квакубабу в ББ 2023

[@Alexan_Dro]

Рискованная атака в 21 час

[@NeVV_AGe]

@@Alexan_Dro , всем быть?)

[@MiHa0204k]

Ждем команду генерала, все наготове 😄

[@Hot_Mexican33]

Кваку бабу не неси чушь😂

[@yonyon8670]

Garbage hull and capola. Not worth bonds would get bonds instead 2k bonds

[@StripedAbibas]

Vents are overrated🥱

[@depressoexpresso6694]

Every time i hear TNH i hear teenage.

[@Piglady00]

another hulldown god with UFP that cant be pen without shooting HEAT :D

[@paveantelic7876]

50tp from ali baba :)

[@tyt_nightcore1444]

if u wanna play somthing liike that just play the 50tp a waste of BP coins

[@iceman5117]

Rocket boosters are the dumbest thing to ever enter this game. We're just making shit up now

[@juanzulu1318]

Actually, these rockets were indeed planned and even proto types

[@iceman5117]

@@juanzulu1318 wot's own page notes that no prototypes were ever made. These tanks are about as real as the aerogavin

[@juanzulu1318]

@@iceman5117 actually wot mentioned that they did.

[@iceman5117]

@@juanzulu1318 that's incorrect